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On April 11 2013 20:11 Markwerf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 19:46 Redox wrote:On April 11 2013 19:40 Yhamm wrote:
Seriously, if you think that Demuslim or whoever else is so good but wasn't invited... then you should have confidence and he will just qualify. There are still 8 players who will join the first list, so surely if he is that good enough, it will be easy for him, right? Wrong. There are still a lot of top koreans left that will try to qualify for these spots. Its highly unlikely that any non-Korean will get one of those NA qualifier spots. Although I kind of understand why Demuslim was not invited. He is not American, thus he probably had to compete against Koreans to get an invite spot. So it was not Capoch or whatever who was invited over him, but people like Polt. if you can't qualify you won't do well either. Ie you had no right to be there in the first place. I wouldn't be surprised if after two seasons the NA/EU premier leagues will be 75% korean showing how silly the entire idea is in the first place..
You just said that any non-Korean has no right to be there. Thats not what Blizzard was going for though, and is inconsistent with the rest of the invites.
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On April 11 2013 19:40 Yhamm wrote:
Seriously, if you think that Demuslim or whoever else is so good but wasn't invited... then you should have confidence and he will just qualify. There are still 8 players who will join the first list, so surely if he is that good enough, it will be easy for him, right?
I have. The games against polt and sage convinced he is the european yoda a.t.m. Demu has nothing to fear, he will ace the qualifier easily.
Nestea deserves the invite more than some others because of squid. Let him ling/bling/muta once again.
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I'm a bit disappointed Feast isn't invited in EU league...But its ok he'll qualify i guess.
The rest looks ok although there can be some questionable choices.
KR premier league looks very sick btw !
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On April 11 2013 08:14 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
So I guess 2nd in WCS Canada, 7th in WCS NA and qualifying for World Finals isn't good enough these days : (
wtf is that ????
they invite hellokitty maker etc and not you and say "its american not us" ? ... thats just so unfair
also no demuslim no in us no in eu makes me feel WTF like
on EU side, no lowely ? you guys forgot how EPIC good he was at wcs ? i mean no one watched wcs europe ? he was a monster .....
and most importently ... NO HEROMARINE ... this guy destorys every player in hots X-0 ... i mean he will qualfier for sure but ... still strange
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some weird invites, would not invite a lot of those people to a tournament but its like gsl in the beginning, u need time to get rid of all the bad players and if the tournament is here to stay thats what is gonna happen, dont expect the bad players to remain 
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On April 11 2013 19:55 Ohjay wrote:
It is very obvious that blizzard and especially the guys who are responsible for these "invites" are a group of amateurs who don´t seem to follow the scene close enough.
The most ridiculous point is certainly the missing invite of (arguably) THE best Terran outside of Korea - DEMUSLIM
There can´t be any logical explanation for this fault. If they have been looking for the most popular guys he would be in and if they have been looking for the best performing guys he would be in as well.
Such a shame!!!
Demuslim is just ladder hero. If he doesn't enter more tournaments he doesn't deserve to be invited to tournaments. No results, no invites...simples.
I'm not anti-demuslim and as a fellow Brit I do wish him well, but he is stuck in an EG mentality where all you need to do is stream and be GM in ladder and then you're entitled to xyz. Doesn't work like that, tournament result matter for seedings and his don't deserve seeding. He will get through the qualifer so he doesn't need a charity seed anyway tbh, but I do hope no invite encourages him to reconsider the ladder hero approach and actually enter more tournaments.
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Am I the only one who keeps calling the two leagues Code S / A instead of Premier / Challenger league?
Poll: Premier / Challenger League or Code S / A?Code S / A (32) 89% Premier / Challenger League (4) 11% 36 total votes Your vote: Premier / Challenger League or Code S / A? (Vote): Premier / Challenger League
(Vote): Code S / A
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On April 11 2013 20:29 CoR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 08:14 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
So I guess 2nd in WCS Canada, 7th in WCS NA and qualifying for World Finals isn't good enough these days : ( wtf is that ???? they invite hellokitty maker etc and not you and say "its american not us" ? ... thats just so unfair also no demuslim no in us no in eu makes me feel WTF like on EU side, no lowely ? you guys forgot how EPIC good he was at wcs ? i mean no one watched wcs europe ? he was a monster ..... and most importently ... NO HEROMARINE ... this guy destorys every player in hots X-0 ... i mean he will qualfier for sure but ... still strange
ESL stated that you have to be 16 to play in the WCS EU this year, so that's why Heromarine isn't in it. Poor kid, too young and too talented :<
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made a list of all 72 Korean players in GSL
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/cNL4Khp.png)
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On April 11 2013 21:02 greenknight999 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 19:55 Ohjay wrote:
It is very obvious that blizzard and especially the guys who are responsible for these "invites" are a group of amateurs who don´t seem to follow the scene close enough.
The most ridiculous point is certainly the missing invite of (arguably) THE best Terran outside of Korea - DEMUSLIM
There can´t be any logical explanation for this fault. If they have been looking for the most popular guys he would be in and if they have been looking for the best performing guys he would be in as well.
Such a shame!!! Demuslim is just ladder hero. If he doesn't enter more tournaments he doesn't deserve to be invited to tournaments. No results, no invites...simples. I'm not anti-demuslim and as a fellow Brit I do wish him well, but he is stuck in an EG mentality where all you need to do is stream and be GM in ladder and then you're entitled to xyz. Doesn't work like that, tournament result matter for seedings and his don't deserve seeding. He will get through the qualifer so he doesn't need a charity seed anyway tbh, but I do hope no invite encourages him to reconsider the ladder hero approach and actually enter more tournaments.
Demu did really well in NASL, and do you really think this Capoch, Hellokitty or Maker have better tournament results than Demu?
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Monchi!!! <3
Europe actually looks pretty cool.
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thx for the link.
100% agreed.
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On April 11 2013 21:10 Vesimias wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 21:02 greenknight999 wrote:On April 11 2013 19:55 Ohjay wrote:
It is very obvious that blizzard and especially the guys who are responsible for these "invites" are a group of amateurs who don´t seem to follow the scene close enough.
The most ridiculous point is certainly the missing invite of (arguably) THE best Terran outside of Korea - DEMUSLIM
There can´t be any logical explanation for this fault. If they have been looking for the most popular guys he would be in and if they have been looking for the best performing guys he would be in as well.
Such a shame!!! Demuslim is just ladder hero. If he doesn't enter more tournaments he doesn't deserve to be invited to tournaments. No results, no invites...simples. I'm not anti-demuslim and as a fellow Brit I do wish him well, but he is stuck in an EG mentality where all you need to do is stream and be GM in ladder and then you're entitled to xyz. Doesn't work like that, tournament result matter for seedings and his don't deserve seeding. He will get through the qualifer so he doesn't need a charity seed anyway tbh, but I do hope no invite encourages him to reconsider the ladder hero approach and actually enter more tournaments. Demu did really well in NASL, and do you really think this Capoch, Hellokitty or Maker have better tournament results than Demu?
I don't think they have to prove themselves on the same level as a cross-region foreigner. Like others in the thread said, demu is competing with players like violet/polt for his invite. Not with players from the Americas. His NASL results are good, but that doesn't detract from the point that he is a ladder/streaming based pro rather than a tournament champ.
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On April 11 2013 21:32 Luolis wrote:
No Finnish players? O_O
It's ok, Fuzer already declared he will win one qualifier :D Also in Welmu we trust.
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they totally used my ranking for europe :d
€: Snute goes NA, didnt expect that at all. TLO plays europe as liquid player as well.
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On April 11 2013 21:20 Ohjay wrote:thx for the link. 100% agreed.
I dont think we can judge anything yet based on season 1, as this is a transitional scrappy season. 2nd I think every team and there sponsors will be delighted to have players of there team participating finally in a code S structure. No one can deny that.
Dont forget that esports thrives on fans. Fans want there favorites to compete against the best of the best. Lucifron against Life etcetc. This is what alot of fans want and therefore sponsors want u to participate in it. Koreans on NA and EU ladder makes this happen.
Blizzard should does just give us next seasons playbook with a descent selectionproces for the seeds (if they have it finished by now)? I truly believe that code s EU and code s NA is good for the teams, the players and the fans. The fans want life against lucifron and gosuuser against leenock etc. Not a copy of ESET UK Masters (no topplayers = less people = less viewers). We absolutely need the best of the best divided over the three regions, without regarding which the nationality the players have.
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This shows how terrible the american server is if you have to invite no-names like Capoch, Maker or Hellokitty (WTF?). There should be like no invites at all and everyone should have to qualify. Its ridiculous to give really bad players like IdrA or HuK a spot they did not deserver.
And why the FUCK is Snute an American Invite? He should play Europe like all the good Europeans.
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Am I right that in NA, even if all 8 qualifier spots go Korean, there will be like 10 Koreans not in Premier for season 1? If so, good.
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heromarine isnt allowed to play the qualifier
what a fucking joke
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EPT
