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On April 11 2013 09:26 Maesy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 09:25 saksy2 wrote:On April 11 2013 09:23 Maesy wrote:On April 11 2013 09:19 saksy2 wrote:On April 11 2013 09:16 Maesy wrote: Wow Blizzard really knows how to keep fucking up. Where are Demuslim and Kane, the two most hard working players of the fucking foreign scene so far? Fuck this joke of a tournament. First Koreans in NA/EU and now this. two most hard working players of the fucking foreign scene You are the one that is joking here. They've put just as much work into HotS if not more than Koreans on the NA list and have been practicing like fucking crazy. Go watch the GSL if you want to watch Koreans instead of being complacent with absolutely destroying the foreign scene piece by piece by lowering the amount of high potential invites. I can't believe people like you are actually bother posting when you have no idea what you're talking about. My point was that their ammount of ladder games comes no where close to what people like Kas, Happy, Snute and so on has put in the past six months or so. Amount of ladder games is completely irrelevant to how much they're taking out of those ladder games and applying to their gameplay.
Nice shifting of the goalposts. Try to keep your argument consistent.
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On April 11 2013 09:26 _SpiRaL_ wrote: Snute obviously going to Korea for pro league!
Invite lists have some terrible omissions. No lowely, fraer, demuslim? Why were any koreans invited to the eu or us regions other than those who live there as well. Lol hellokitty!
Tbh along with the terrible communication this wcs is an utter farce. Been thrown together last minute at the behest of someone who doesn't know what they are doing. Yeah, clearly they were in such a rush at MLG that right now they are going "Fuck, we forgot to look at the top of the NA ladder! That might have been important."
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On April 11 2013 09:26 Maesy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 09:25 saksy2 wrote:On April 11 2013 09:23 Maesy wrote:On April 11 2013 09:19 saksy2 wrote:On April 11 2013 09:16 Maesy wrote: Wow Blizzard really knows how to keep fucking up. Where are Demuslim and Kane, the two most hard working players of the fucking foreign scene so far? Fuck this joke of a tournament. First Koreans in NA/EU and now this. two most hard working players of the fucking foreign scene You are the one that is joking here. They've put just as much work into HotS if not more than Koreans on the NA list and have been practicing like fucking crazy. Go watch the GSL if you want to watch Koreans instead of being complacent with absolutely destroying the foreign scene piece by piece by lowering the amount of high potential invites. I can't believe people like you are actually bother posting when you have no idea what you're talking about. My point was that their ammount of ladder games comes no where close to what people like Kas, Happy, Snute and so on has put in the past six months or so. Amount of ladder games is completely irrelevant to how much they're taking out of those ladder games and applying to their gameplay. Still, if you want the hardest working foreigner to recieve invites, half of the invitees would be Koreans, Europeans, and random master leaguers with fifteen thousand ladder games
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On April 11 2013 09:24 Dvriel wrote: Who is KANE??? And Ostojiy? Do they even stream? Demuslim is a bad choice.He totally deserves to be invited but qxc...Its strange nobody is talking about Dragon hehe.Almost the most succesfull streamer and is not invited hahaha.I dont like him,because it seems he is always trolling...
If you have to ask who Ostojiy is then you didn't watch WCS 2012...
I don't know who Kane is either; so I guess I'll agree with you.
On April 11 2013 09:25 thurst0n wrote: I'm confused why people are surprised. I"m also confused why people are upset since they knew this was coming.
Why are the Dallas Cowboys part of NFC East? Carolina is NFC South yet Dallas is further south than Charlotte and Charlotte is further east.
To be fair there are historical reasons for the Cowboys being in the NFC East; which is only named that because the majority of the teams are in the US East coast when they renamed all the divisions. But I'm guessing you already knew that, unless you're really didn't know that North Carolina is in the part of America called 'The South', regardless of other places being just or farther south.
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On April 11 2013 09:28 _SpiRaL_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 09:26 Maesy wrote:On April 11 2013 09:25 saksy2 wrote:On April 11 2013 09:23 Maesy wrote:On April 11 2013 09:19 saksy2 wrote:On April 11 2013 09:16 Maesy wrote: Wow Blizzard really knows how to keep fucking up. Where are Demuslim and Kane, the two most hard working players of the fucking foreign scene so far? Fuck this joke of a tournament. First Koreans in NA/EU and now this. two most hard working players of the fucking foreign scene You are the one that is joking here. They've put just as much work into HotS if not more than Koreans on the NA list and have been practicing like fucking crazy. Go watch the GSL if you want to watch Koreans instead of being complacent with absolutely destroying the foreign scene piece by piece by lowering the amount of high potential invites. I can't believe people like you are actually bother posting when you have no idea what you're talking about. My point was that their ammount of ladder games comes no where close to what people like Kas, Happy, Snute and so on has put in the past six months or so. Amount of ladder games is completely irrelevant to how much they're taking out of those ladder games and applying to their gameplay. Nice shifting of the goalposts. Try to keep your argument consistent.
Except it is consistent and I've done nothing but talk about how these two players need invites because of how good they are, which is also what I just pointed out. I'm not sure how that's "shifting goalposts". Maybe you're just really bad at reading.
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On April 11 2013 09:22 Dodgin wrote: I'm watching Polt stream right now and Demuslim is the only player that has taken a game off him in his past 25 games, it would be quite sad if he's really not invited.
Polt has lost about 7 of 80 games this season, 2 of those losses were to Demuslim. His exclusion makes no sense.
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NA also gets australia and china/taiwan?...... Wouldnt it be easier that china/taiwan players be grouped with korea. EU has it off wayyyy better then NA, so disappointing.
NA has 8 players that are not from NA and EU has 3...
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On April 11 2013 09:30 Maesy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 09:28 _SpiRaL_ wrote:On April 11 2013 09:26 Maesy wrote:On April 11 2013 09:25 saksy2 wrote:On April 11 2013 09:23 Maesy wrote:On April 11 2013 09:19 saksy2 wrote:On April 11 2013 09:16 Maesy wrote: Wow Blizzard really knows how to keep fucking up. Where are Demuslim and Kane, the two most hard working players of the fucking foreign scene so far? Fuck this joke of a tournament. First Koreans in NA/EU and now this. two most hard working players of the fucking foreign scene You are the one that is joking here. They've put just as much work into HotS if not more than Koreans on the NA list and have been practicing like fucking crazy. Go watch the GSL if you want to watch Koreans instead of being complacent with absolutely destroying the foreign scene piece by piece by lowering the amount of high potential invites. I can't believe people like you are actually bother posting when you have no idea what you're talking about. My point was that their ammount of ladder games comes no where close to what people like Kas, Happy, Snute and so on has put in the past six months or so. Amount of ladder games is completely irrelevant to how much they're taking out of those ladder games and applying to their gameplay. Nice shifting of the goalposts. Try to keep your argument consistent. Except it is consistent and I've done nothing but talk about how these two players need invites because of how good they are, which is also what I just pointed out. I'm not sure how that's "shifting goalposts". Maybe you're just really bad at reading. You said that they were two of the hardest working foreigners... which I have no idea how you know that is true. Then you said it was because they took the most out of their ladder games. Then you said it's because they are good.
Like I said before, I agree that DeMuslim should have been invited... but there is no need to go insane over it. If he's as good as you say (and I think he just might be) than he should be able to make it through the qualifiers.
edit: NVM, you went even further and said they were THE hardest working players in the foreign scene. Not even among the hardest working, but straight up THE hardest working...
Quite a claim.
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On April 11 2013 09:28 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 09:26 _SpiRaL_ wrote: Snute obviously going to Korea for pro league!
Invite lists have some terrible omissions. No lowely, fraer, demuslim? Why were any koreans invited to the eu or us regions other than those who live there as well. Lol hellokitty!
Tbh along with the terrible communication this wcs is an utter farce. Been thrown together last minute at the behest of someone who doesn't know what they are doing. Yeah, clearly they were in such a rush at MLG that right now they are going "Fuck, we forgot to look at the top of the NA ladder! That might have been important."
Instead they threw darts at player names. Who cares about ladder the three names I mentioned have way more results than many on the lists. Some of whom have quite literally no results.
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On April 11 2013 09:30 EleanorRIgby wrote: NA also gets australia and china/taiwan?...... Wouldnt it be easier that china/taiwan players be grouped with korea. EU has it off wayyyy better then NA, so disappointing.
Can't force MG and Sen to take a plane and play code b.
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Aprill 11 , maybe April fools twice as hard~!?
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guys pls remember, its not called "wcs north america", its called "wcs america" so ofc they invite some guys from south america.
i never heard of some of the american invites though like state,maker and hellokitty.^^
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On April 11 2013 09:22 JustPassingBy wrote: Why the hell was HeroMarine not invited on EU? He finished 3rd respectively on the last major event on EU which was a completely open tournament (no invites or such)!
Instead, we see TitaN who might be a good player, but whose last accomplishment was two years ago??? Wtf? Two years ago TitaN didn't even play SC2 yet.
You're hating on one invite on the list and you're choosing Titan? He won WCS RU and beat more Koreans than anyone else at the World Finals, you remember? 2-1 vs Curious, last GSL season's semifinalist and 2-0 vs herO, CJ Entus' Proleague ace!
How about, let's say TLO who got knocked out by Jaxx in the second round of the loser bracket in his NATIONAL tournament? Is he more worthy of an invite?
They should have done an open qualifier and scrapped all these stupid invites, but Titan isn't especially undeserving of one if you ask me.
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On April 11 2013 09:32 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 09:30 EleanorRIgby wrote: NA also gets australia and china/taiwan?...... Wouldnt it be easier that china/taiwan players be grouped with korea. EU has it off wayyyy better then NA, so disappointing. Can't force MG and Sen to take a plane and play code b. Even if they can, the chance that they will get past eSF+ KeSPA is not much better than Artosis's.
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On April 11 2013 09:08 GGQ wrote: I'm completely cool with people being allowed to play in whatever region they want. I just don't understand why people living outside NA would be invited to NA premier. They should have to qualify. This sums up my complaints completely. No reason in even calling it WCS NA if you literally invite and fly over koreans and keep invites from pro locals to do so. Just absurd. Now the only people who have to go through the brutal qualifiers are the actual residents of NA and EU, as well as yet more Koreans who can play from their house.
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On April 11 2013 09:30 Maesy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 09:28 _SpiRaL_ wrote:On April 11 2013 09:26 Maesy wrote:On April 11 2013 09:25 saksy2 wrote:On April 11 2013 09:23 Maesy wrote:On April 11 2013 09:19 saksy2 wrote:On April 11 2013 09:16 Maesy wrote: Wow Blizzard really knows how to keep fucking up. Where are Demuslim and Kane, the two most hard working players of the fucking foreign scene so far? Fuck this joke of a tournament. First Koreans in NA/EU and now this. two most hard working players of the fucking foreign scene You are the one that is joking here. They've put just as much work into HotS if not more than Koreans on the NA list and have been practicing like fucking crazy. Go watch the GSL if you want to watch Koreans instead of being complacent with absolutely destroying the foreign scene piece by piece by lowering the amount of high potential invites. I can't believe people like you are actually bother posting when you have no idea what you're talking about. My point was that their ammount of ladder games comes no where close to what people like Kas, Happy, Snute and so on has put in the past six months or so. Amount of ladder games is completely irrelevant to how much they're taking out of those ladder games and applying to their gameplay. Nice shifting of the goalposts. Try to keep your argument consistent. Except it is consistent and I've done nothing but talk about how these two players need invites because of how good they are, which is also what I just pointed out. I'm not sure how that's "shifting goalposts". Maybe you're just really bad at reading.
You werent saying they should be invited because of how good they were. Instead it was because they were the hardest workers. When pointed out they werent the hardest workers you decided hard work meant taking more from ladder games or some subjective nonsense. Now its just their skilllevel. Shiftibg the goal posts a second time. I should learn to read better.
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Demuslim not getting invited... what in the literal fuck....
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On April 11 2013 09:34 katzenman wrote: guys pls remember, its not called "wcs north america", its called "wcs america" so ofc they invite some guys from south america.
i never heard of some of the american invites though like state,maker and hellokitty.^^
I don't think anyone is arguing against people from South America... State has been in the scene for awhile and has always been a great player, he just hasn't won anything. Hellokitty spent an absolutely shitton of time practicing for this on the beta and consistently released replays and such if I'm not mistaken. Maker? I have no idea who that is, honestly.
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On April 11 2013 09:38 Maesy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 09:34 katzenman wrote: guys pls remember, its not called "wcs north america", its called "wcs america" so ofc they invite some guys from south america.
i never heard of some of the american invites though like state,maker and hellokitty.^^ I don't think anyone is arguing against people from South America... State has been in the scene for awhile and has always been a great player, he just hasn't won anything. Hellokitty spent an absolutely shitton of time practicing for this on the beta and consistently released replays and such if I'm not mistaken. Maker? I have no idea who that is, honestly.
How would anyone practice specifically for this during the beta when no one knew about it during the beta? Just by way of clarification.
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