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WCS Season 1 Premier League Invite List Announced - Page 12

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Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 00:51:05
April 11 2013 00:42 GMT
#221
No Demuslim or qxc is pretty surprising to me.

EDIT: Especially with players like Maker, Capoch and HelloKitty getting an invite. I've heard of them before but have they really done anything notable enough to earn invites?

I'm really not trying to blindly hate on players here, so if they have done something significant to validate their invites that's awesome for them.
Maesy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1444 Posts
April 11 2013 00:42 GMT
#222
On April 11 2013 09:40 Billd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 09:38 Maesy wrote:
On April 11 2013 09:34 katzenman wrote:
guys pls remember, its not called "wcs north america", its called "wcs america" so ofc they invite some guys from south america.

i never heard of some of the american invites though like state,maker and hellokitty.^^


I don't think anyone is arguing against people from South America... State has been in the scene for awhile and has always been a great player, he just hasn't won anything. Hellokitty spent an absolutely shitton of time practicing for this on the beta and consistently released replays and such if I'm not mistaken. Maker? I have no idea who that is, honestly.


How would anyone practice specifically for this during the beta when no one knew about it during the beta? Just by way of clarification.


Sorry, I worded that a little wrong. He was practicing hard to be one of the best players in HotS, not specifically for this tournament. Seems like people keep twisting my tongue today.
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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
April 11 2013 00:43 GMT
#223
On April 11 2013 09:38 Maesy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 09:34 katzenman wrote:
guys pls remember, its not called "wcs north america", its called "wcs america" so ofc they invite some guys from south america.

i never heard of some of the american invites though like state,maker and hellokitty.^^


I don't think anyone is arguing against people from South America... State has been in the scene for awhile and has always been a great player, he just hasn't won anything. Hellokitty spent an absolutely shitton of time practicing for this on the beta and consistently released replays and such if I'm not mistaken. Maker? I have no idea who that is, honestly.


Maker is the 2nd best player in Mexico...

I don't believe his skill is that close to Major's though, so who knows where he stacks up on the world scene (no I didn't watch last year's WCS before anyone asks).
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 00:46:36
April 11 2013 00:45 GMT
#224
On April 11 2013 09:34 StarVe wrote:
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On April 11 2013 09:22 JustPassingBy wrote:
Why the hell was HeroMarine not invited on EU? He finished 3rd respectively on the last major event on EU which was a completely open tournament (no invites or such)!

Instead, we see TitaN who might be a good player, but whose last accomplishment was two years ago???

Wtf? Two years ago TitaN didn't even play SC2 yet.

You're hating on one invite on the list and you're choosing Titan? He won WCS RU and beat more Koreans than anyone else at the World Finals, you remember? 2-1 vs Curious, last GSL season's semifinalist and 2-0 vs herO, CJ Entus' Proleague ace!

How about, let's say TLO who got knocked out by Jaxx in the second round of the loser bracket in his NATIONAL tournament? Is he more worthy of an invite?

They should have done an open qualifier and scrapped all these stupid invites, but Titan isn't especially undeserving of one if you ask me.


Nevermind, I messed up, didn't look past "premier tournaments" in the accomplishments.
Then at least I'll hope he'll make it past the qualifiers.

but isn't this titan: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/TitaN_(Russian_player)
well, okay that wcs was only like 17 months ago.
ROOTIllusion
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
April 11 2013 00:46 GMT
#225
Seems to be some correlation between 2012 BWC players and players invited
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Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
April 11 2013 00:48 GMT
#226
Why would they invite koreans to european and american leagues, that blows my mind >.< How about you invite all foreigners in Korea to their league ?
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
April 11 2013 00:49 GMT
#227
WCS really is making me scratch my head left and right ... I almost feel like not watching it -.-;
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 00:50:58
April 11 2013 00:50 GMT
#228
I think NA was mostly american player first (i mean from the continent, not US), and then players who they deemed worth the slot. Demuslim must had been an oversight because he played WCS EU last year, but he got a US Visa, so my bet is he will be in.

EU is the one which seems fishy to me, i don't understand why MMA and MVP got seeds over european players like lowely, instead of having to work the qualifiers like any non european should. I can understand forGG since he has been living in europe for quite a long time.

But well, i think that it's impossible to have all of us happy. And i guess that i am missing a lot of american players because i don't really follow that scene that should had been invited first over non american players.
Richard4021
Profile Joined October 2011
United States73 Posts
April 11 2013 00:50 GMT
#229
It seems to me that the invited list of NA included gamers from GREAT KOREAN GAMERS, OTHER COUNTRYs(other than the three regions), NEW YOUNG TALENTs. This result in not enough spot to include everybody and not invite by performance.

If there's not enough spots, why we bring in all the Koreans that already have a region for themselves.

Base on the above category, DeMuslim not fit in any category because he is British. He should be include in EU (no room for him in NA).
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
April 11 2013 00:51 GMT
#230
Just out of curiosity why is Snute playing in NA?
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 00:52:45
April 11 2013 00:51 GMT
#231
On April 11 2013 09:50 Richard4021 wrote:
It seems to me that the invited list of NA included gamers from GREAT KOREAN GAMERS, OTHER COUNTRYs(other than the three regions), NEW YOUNG TALENTs. This result in not enough spot to include everybody and not invite by performance.

If there's not enough spots, why we bring in all the Koreans that already have a region for themselves.

Base on the above category, DeMuslim not fit in any category because he is British. He should be include in EU (no room for him in NA).


He has a Visa and has been living on US (and plans on staying) for quite a long time. There is absolutely no reason for him not getting an invite. Same for Polt.

On April 11 2013 09:51 Darkhoarse wrote:
Just out of curiosity why is Snute playing in NA?


I answered this pages ago, my guess that he is going to the EG TL house in korea. Not confirmed yet but he is suppossed to do an annoucement, so it sounds likely.
Megakenny
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada829 Posts
April 11 2013 00:55 GMT
#232
Maker, Capoch and HelloKitty? I dunno about those three invites. I think even a player like InControl would do better.
Richard4021
Profile Joined October 2011
United States73 Posts
April 11 2013 00:55 GMT
#233
On April 11 2013 09:51 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 09:50 Richard4021 wrote:
It seems to me that the invited list of NA included gamers from GREAT KOREAN GAMERS, OTHER COUNTRYs(other than the three regions), NEW YOUNG TALENTs. This result in not enough spot to include everybody and not invite by performance.

If there's not enough spots, why we bring in all the Koreans that already have a region for themselves.

Base on the above category, DeMuslim not fit in any category because he is British. He should be include in EU (no room for him in NA).


He has a Visa and has been living on US (and plans on staying) for quite a long time. There is absolutely no reason for him not getting an invite. Same for Polt.

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 09:51 Darkhoarse wrote:
Just out of curiosity why is Snute playing in NA?


I answered this pages ago, my guess that he is going to the EG TL house in korea. Not confirmed yet but he is suppossed to do an annoucement, so it sounds likely.


I agreed that he should be one of the invites in NA if there is no GREAT KOREANS GAMERS included.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
April 11 2013 00:55 GMT
#234
On April 11 2013 09:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 09:34 StarVe wrote:
On April 11 2013 09:22 JustPassingBy wrote:
Why the hell was HeroMarine not invited on EU? He finished 3rd respectively on the last major event on EU which was a completely open tournament (no invites or such)!

Instead, we see TitaN who might be a good player, but whose last accomplishment was two years ago???

Wtf? Two years ago TitaN didn't even play SC2 yet.

You're hating on one invite on the list and you're choosing Titan? He won WCS RU and beat more Koreans than anyone else at the World Finals, you remember? 2-1 vs Curious, last GSL season's semifinalist and 2-0 vs herO, CJ Entus' Proleague ace!

How about, let's say TLO who got knocked out by Jaxx in the second round of the loser bracket in his NATIONAL tournament? Is he more worthy of an invite?

They should have done an open qualifier and scrapped all these stupid invites, but Titan isn't especially undeserving of one if you ask me.


Nevermind, I messed up, didn't look past "premier tournaments" in the accomplishments.
Then at least I'll hope he'll make it past the qualifiers.

but isn't this titan: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/TitaN_(Russian_player)
well, okay that wcs was only like 17 months ago.


More like 10 months.
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
April 11 2013 00:55 GMT
#235
On April 11 2013 09:50 Richard4021 wrote:
It seems to me that the invited list of NA included gamers from GREAT KOREAN GAMERS, OTHER COUNTRYs(other than the three regions), NEW YOUNG TALENTs. This result in not enough spot to include everybody and not invite by performance.

If there's not enough spots, why we bring in all the Koreans that already have a region for themselves.

Base on the above category, DeMuslim not fit in any category because he is British. He should be include in EU (no room for him in NA).


Why on earth would koreans be prioritised over Demuslim who lives in the us? There is also even less room for him in eu than in us in terms of players.
Red and yellow are all I see
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 00:59:16
April 11 2013 00:56 GMT
#236
Blizzard makes there ladder so obsolete. Just pick top32 from ladder NA, KR and EU, thats most fair arrangement to the players.

how on earth is it fair the give theognis a seed, but not nr.1 GM-NA demuslim or cshuttle or sage etcetc. This is bollox...

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Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
April 11 2013 00:56 GMT
#237
On April 11 2013 09:48 Ryps wrote:
Why would they invite koreans to european and american leagues, that blows my mind >.< How about you invite all foreigners in Korea to their league ?


One could argue this is exactly what GOM did in the past with Code S seeds, even though Code S was a separate league and not a qualifier.
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Billd
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada210 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 00:58:03
April 11 2013 00:57 GMT
#238
On April 11 2013 09:50 Godwrath wrote:
I think NA was mostly american player first (i mean from the continent, not US), and then players who they deemed worth the slot. Demuslim must had been an oversight because he played WCS EU last year, but he got a US Visa, so my bet is he will be in.

EU is the one which seems fishy to me, i don't understand why MMA and MVP got seeds over european players like lowely, instead of having to work the qualifiers like any non european should. I can understand forGG since he has been living in europe for quite a long time.

But well, i think that it's impossible to have all of us happy. And i guess that i am missing a lot of american players because i don't really follow that scene that should had been invited first over non american players.


MVP and MMA were not given seeds to EU, they chose EU as their region.

The underlining problem you have is still there but it is worth noting that the two players you mentioned were not invited to EU, they choose EU, as they are allowed to do. Whether or not they should be allowed to CHOOSE EU is of course another whole discussion.
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 11 2013 00:58 GMT
#239
On April 11 2013 09:55 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 09:45 JustPassingBy wrote:
On April 11 2013 09:34 StarVe wrote:
On April 11 2013 09:22 JustPassingBy wrote:
Why the hell was HeroMarine not invited on EU? He finished 3rd respectively on the last major event on EU which was a completely open tournament (no invites or such)!

Instead, we see TitaN who might be a good player, but whose last accomplishment was two years ago???

Wtf? Two years ago TitaN didn't even play SC2 yet.

You're hating on one invite on the list and you're choosing Titan? He won WCS RU and beat more Koreans than anyone else at the World Finals, you remember? 2-1 vs Curious, last GSL season's semifinalist and 2-0 vs herO, CJ Entus' Proleague ace!

How about, let's say TLO who got knocked out by Jaxx in the second round of the loser bracket in his NATIONAL tournament? Is he more worthy of an invite?

They should have done an open qualifier and scrapped all these stupid invites, but Titan isn't especially undeserving of one if you ask me.


Nevermind, I messed up, didn't look past "premier tournaments" in the accomplishments.
Then at least I'll hope he'll make it past the qualifiers.

but isn't this titan: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/TitaN_(Russian_player)
well, okay that wcs was only like 17 months ago.


More like 10 months.

8 and a half months
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 00:59:39
April 11 2013 00:58 GMT
#240
On April 11 2013 09:57 Billd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 09:50 Godwrath wrote:
I think NA was mostly american player first (i mean from the continent, not US), and then players who they deemed worth the slot. Demuslim must had been an oversight because he played WCS EU last year, but he got a US Visa, so my bet is he will be in.

EU is the one which seems fishy to me, i don't understand why MMA and MVP got seeds over european players like lowely, instead of having to work the qualifiers like any non european should. I can understand forGG since he has been living in europe for quite a long time.

But well, i think that it's impossible to have all of us happy. And i guess that i am missing a lot of american players because i don't really follow that scene that should had been invited first over non american players.


MVP and MMA were not given seeds to EU, they choose EU as their region.

The underlining problem you have is still there but it is worth noting that the two players you mentioned were not invited to EU, they choose EU, as they are allowed to do. Whether or not they should be allowed to CHOOSE EU is of course another whole discussion.


My english is bad, but i didn't imply that i think they shouldn't be able to choose EU (that's a different subject), but that they shouldn't be able to get automatically qualified over EU players. I guess i understood the whole thing wrong tho.
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