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Fishriot
United States621 Posts
EDIT: Especially with players like Maker, Capoch and HelloKitty getting an invite. I've heard of them before but have they really done anything notable enough to earn invites? I'm really not trying to blindly hate on players here, so if they have done something significant to validate their invites that's awesome for them. | ||
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Maesy
United States1444 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:40 Billd wrote: How would anyone practice specifically for this during the beta when no one knew about it during the beta? Just by way of clarification. Sorry, I worded that a little wrong. He was practicing hard to be one of the best players in HotS, not specifically for this tournament. Seems like people keep twisting my tongue today. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:38 Maesy wrote: I don't think anyone is arguing against people from South America... State has been in the scene for awhile and has always been a great player, he just hasn't won anything. Hellokitty spent an absolutely shitton of time practicing for this on the beta and consistently released replays and such if I'm not mistaken. Maker? I have no idea who that is, honestly. Maker is the 2nd best player in Mexico... I don't believe his skill is that close to Major's though, so who knows where he stacks up on the world scene (no I didn't watch last year's WCS before anyone asks). | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:34 StarVe wrote: Wtf? Two years ago TitaN didn't even play SC2 yet. You're hating on one invite on the list and you're choosing Titan? He won WCS RU and beat more Koreans than anyone else at the World Finals, you remember? 2-1 vs Curious, last GSL season's semifinalist and 2-0 vs herO, CJ Entus' Proleague ace! How about, let's say TLO who got knocked out by Jaxx in the second round of the loser bracket in his NATIONAL tournament? Is he more worthy of an invite? They should have done an open qualifier and scrapped all these stupid invites, but Titan isn't especially undeserving of one if you ask me. Nevermind, I messed up, didn't look past "premier tournaments" in the accomplishments. Then at least I'll hope he'll make it past the qualifiers.  but isn't this titan: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/TitaN_(Russian_player) well, okay that wcs was only like 17 months ago. | ||
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ROOTIllusion
United States1060 Posts
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Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
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Godwrath
Spain10139 Posts
EU is the one which seems fishy to me, i don't understand why MMA and MVP got seeds over european players like lowely, instead of having to work the qualifiers like any non european should. I can understand forGG since he has been living in europe for quite a long time. But well, i think that it's impossible to have all of us happy. And i guess that i am missing a lot of american players because i don't really follow that scene that should had been invited first over non american players. | ||
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Richard4021
United States73 Posts
If there's not enough spots, why we bring in all the Koreans that already have a region for themselves. Base on the above category, DeMuslim not fit in any category because he is British. He should be include in EU (no room for him in NA). | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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Godwrath
Spain10139 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:50 Richard4021 wrote: It seems to me that the invited list of NA included gamers from GREAT KOREAN GAMERS, OTHER COUNTRYs(other than the three regions), NEW YOUNG TALENTs. This result in not enough spot to include everybody and not invite by performance. If there's not enough spots, why we bring in all the Koreans that already have a region for themselves. Base on the above category, DeMuslim not fit in any category because he is British. He should be include in EU (no room for him in NA). He has a Visa and has been living on US (and plans on staying) for quite a long time. There is absolutely no reason for him not getting an invite. Same for Polt. On April 11 2013 09:51 Darkhoarse wrote: Just out of curiosity why is Snute playing in NA? I answered this pages ago, my guess that he is going to the EG TL house in korea. Not confirmed yet but he is suppossed to do an annoucement, so it sounds likely. | ||
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Megakenny
Canada829 Posts
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Richard4021
United States73 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:51 Godwrath wrote: He has a Visa and has been living on US (and plans on staying) for quite a long time. There is absolutely no reason for him not getting an invite. Same for Polt. I answered this pages ago, my guess that he is going to the EG TL house in korea. Not confirmed yet but he is suppossed to do an annoucement, so it sounds likely. I agreed that he should be one of the invites in NA if there is no GREAT KOREANS GAMERS included. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10139 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:45 JustPassingBy wrote: Nevermind, I messed up, didn't look past "premier tournaments" in the accomplishments. Then at least I'll hope he'll make it past the qualifiers. but isn't this titan: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/TitaN_(Russian_player) well, okay that wcs was only like 17 months ago. More like 10 months. | ||
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_SpiRaL_
Afghanistan1636 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:50 Richard4021 wrote: It seems to me that the invited list of NA included gamers from GREAT KOREAN GAMERS, OTHER COUNTRYs(other than the three regions), NEW YOUNG TALENTs. This result in not enough spot to include everybody and not invite by performance. If there's not enough spots, why we bring in all the Koreans that already have a region for themselves. Base on the above category, DeMuslim not fit in any category because he is British. He should be include in EU (no room for him in NA). Why on earth would koreans be prioritised over Demuslim who lives in the us? There is also even less room for him in eu than in us in terms of players. | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
how on earth is it fair the give theognis a seed, but not nr.1 GM-NA demuslim or cshuttle or sage etcetc. This is bollox... Blizzard GFTO!!! | ||
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:48 Ryps wrote: Why would they invite koreans to european and american leagues, that blows my mind >.< How about you invite all foreigners in Korea to their league ? One could argue this is exactly what GOM did in the past with Code S seeds, even though Code S was a separate league and not a qualifier. | ||
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Billd
Canada210 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:50 Godwrath wrote: I think NA was mostly american player first (i mean from the continent, not US), and then players who they deemed worth the slot. Demuslim must had been an oversight because he played WCS EU last year, but he got a US Visa, so my bet is he will be in. EU is the one which seems fishy to me, i don't understand why MMA and MVP got seeds over european players like lowely, instead of having to work the qualifiers like any non european should. I can understand forGG since he has been living in europe for quite a long time. But well, i think that it's impossible to have all of us happy. And i guess that i am missing a lot of american players because i don't really follow that scene that should had been invited first over non american players. MVP and MMA were not given seeds to EU, they chose EU as their region. The underlining problem you have is still there but it is worth noting that the two players you mentioned were not invited to EU, they choose EU, as they are allowed to do. Whether or not they should be allowed to CHOOSE EU is of course another whole discussion. | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
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Godwrath
Spain10139 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:57 Billd wrote: MVP and MMA were not given seeds to EU, they choose EU as their region. The underlining problem you have is still there but it is worth noting that the two players you mentioned were not invited to EU, they choose EU, as they are allowed to do. Whether or not they should be allowed to CHOOSE EU is of course another whole discussion. My english is bad, but i didn't imply that i think they shouldn't be able to choose EU (that's a different subject), but that they shouldn't be able to get automatically qualified over EU players. I guess i understood the whole thing wrong tho. | ||
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