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Blizzard Cup '12 - Ro10 Group A Preview

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Blizzard Cup '12 - Ro10 Group A Preview

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December 17th, 2012 01:44 GMT

Blizzard Cup 2012


Group A Preview
The first five-man group of the tournament.


GSL Blizzard Cup 2012 brackets and results at Liquipedia

Round of 10: Group A



It's the most wonderful time of the year. No, not Christmas, silly.

It's the Blizzard Cup! The tournament where ten of the best players of the year are invited by the GSL to compete for right to be called the champion of champions. MMA overcame players like DRG, Mvp, and MC to win last year's Blizzard Cup, and the line-up is just as stacked this year as well. The ten man line-up includes Mvp, DRG, HerO, Leenock, PartinG, Sniper, Life, Rain, viOLet, and Seed, all of whom have a real shot of winning the championship.

The action kicks off with on the first day with Group A.

Group A: Mvp, DRG, HerO, Leenock, and PartinG

1st place advances to Ro4, 2nd and 3rd advance to Ro6, 4th and 5th eliminated.


5: (Z)MVP.DongRaeGu

It's weird to pick the first GSL champion of 2012 to finish last in this group, but given DongRaeGu's path in 2012, it's not that surprising. At some point between May and June, DongRaeGu just stopped being DongRaeGu. It's not that he became a bad player, because he's still quite skilled. It's just that he fell off from being one of the best – if not THE best – players in the world, to being 'just' another excellent Zerg. Other players would kill to have his recent results of double Code S Ro16 finishes and an IPL5 top eight, but you could see from the disappointment on DongRaeGu's face after being eliminated that he expects nothing but championship quality from himself.

It's tough to say what caused DRG's fall after winning Code S and MLG in the first half of the year. His personal tweets and interviews say maybe it was a lapse in concentration – but then why does he continue to perform below standards after claiming his head is in the right place again? Perhaps he needs a few more months of focusing on nothing but practice for it to pay off in a tournament. Or perhaps it's the all-powerful girlfriend factor, which is rumored to have caused many a high profile slump.

Fortunately for DongRaeGu, the race balance in this tournament fits his current match-up strengths well. Roughly, you could say DRG's best match-ups go ZvZ > ZvP > ZvT at present, and Zerg > Protoss > Terran is how race representation will be in the Blizzard Cup. The four other Zergs seem like decent match-ups for DRG, but he'll need a much improved ZvP to make an impact in this tournament.


4: (P)Liquid`HerO

HerO comes into the Blizzard Cup through the seed given to the DreamHack Winter 2012 champion, which to be frank, gave him the second weakest case to be in the tournament. With the exception of TaeJa and ForGG, it was pretty much a foreigner-stomp for HerO. That's not to say it was easy to win DreamHack Winter, just easier than some of the other tournaments that had seeds into the Blizzard Cup: MLG Fall, OSL, IPL5, or WCS.

If HerO were headed into the Blizzard Cup with just DHW behind his back, then we'd have no problem dumping him in fifth place in his group, and question his worthiness to be in the tournament. However, in an interesting turn of events, HerO went on to take down TaeJa, Polt, and viOLet in his NASL S4 championship run, bolstering his elite-player cred significantly (we'll just pretend HerO's qualification for the Blizzard Cup is on a combination of the two).

That said, you look at the murderer’s row of players set up in the Blizzard Cup, look at HerO's track record against players of that quality, and you have to question his ability to advance. HerO could always hang in Code S, but historically he's never been able to beat the very best players of the times, be it Squirtle in Code S Season II, Rain during his legend of the fall run, or Stephano during his Protoss killing-spree in the summer.

Even worse, the racial composition just isn't his favor. HerO's best match-up is now PvT, but there's just one Terran in the tournament. While his PvP has improved greatly after being a straight up liability in the past, it's definitely not an advantage against guys like Seed, PartinG and Rain. And though HerO did defeat viOLet at NASL, PvZ has still been his most troublesome match-up in recent months, and you'll be hard pressed to find scarier Zergs than the ones gathered in the Blizzard Cup.


3: (P)ST_PartinG

HerO's qualification to the Blizzard Cup was a bit soft, but he can't outdo PartinG's pillowy entrance. PartinG's WCS run consisted of five foreigners capped by Creator in the finals, making it the easiest $100,000 anyone has made in the history of StarCraft. He then followed it by also making the easiest $25,000 in the history of Starcraft, defeating seven foreigners at the WCG 2012 finals. PartinG is either the luckiest progamer alive, or he's made some kind of pact with the devil. So, why is PartinG ahead of HerO and DongRaeGu then? Call it a feeling.

First off, the match-ups are pretty decent for PartinG. PvT has been a weak match-up for PartinG lately, but with just Mvp in the group, it's not that big a deal. PvP's a great match-up for him as well, as he's at the very least, equal with any Protoss player in the world. In PvZ, his ability to perform the soulful immortal sentry all-in is pretty spectacular. While it's been stopped by players like Sniper, it's far from being a build that's figured out, requiring great execution on the Zerg side to defeat. You have to give a lot of credit to a player with a such a weapon.

The major factor though, which ties into all the stuff mentioned above, is that PartinG is starting to look a lot like a reborn MC. He has unstoppable PvZ all-ins, and elite PvP that can go up against anyone in the world. While he used to be a strong macro player in PvT, he's recently overhauled it so that he uses a ton of all-ins to get victories. As he's adopted MC's tactics, PartinG has also started to take on the boss toss' aura, where his arsenal of all-ins makes you think "you never know what could happen with this guy, don't count him out." So while his recent list of opponents beaten might not be nearly as impressive as the amount of prize money won, you have to be wary of PartinG.


2: (T)LG-IM_Mvp

Will the age of Mvp finally come to pass? Back in Code S Season Two, where Mvp was heading in after a disappointing MLG Winter Arena and Code S Season One, many thought he was crippled and done. Yet, he managed to prove his doubters wrong, overcoming younger, rising stars in every round to win his fourth GSL championship. While that victory certainly showed everyone that Mvp should never be counted out, recent results are sending a more mixed message. Mvp showed his class once more by making it to the finals of Code S Season Four, but was defeated in the end by the prodigy ST_Life. Had time finally caught up to Mvp?

The 2012 Blizzard Cup will be a crucial test for the legend of Mvp going forward. Players like PartinG, Rain, Leenock and Life are some the fastest rising players in StarCraft II, and they're bound to be top stars in 2013. Mvp's performance against them this tournament will tell us if he can still be a championship player in 2013. Already the greatest WoL player of all time, Mvp has a chance to chastise the up and comers, telling them they are going to need to work a lot harder if they don't want his shadow looming over HotS and 2013 as well. With a Code S championship and a runner-up finish in 2012, Mvp already has a strong case to be called the best player of 2012. A championship in the Blizzard cup would lock it up, making him the best player of 2011 and 2012.

The race composition of this group is a mixed blessing and curse for Mvp. TvT has been Mvp's best match-up, but he won't have a chance to play it at all as the lone Terran. On the other hand, he gets to prepare for just two match-ups, compared to the other players who have to prepare for all three. While late game TvZ was a major problem for him in previous tournaments, the raven buff should be a huge boon. Mvp was already experimenting with ravens before other players, and no doubt, he'll have found better ways to use them in TvZ since we last saw him. As for TvP, he's facing two Protoss players who are dangerous all-iners in HerO and PartinG, but against sOs in Code A, Mvp showed he can read and prepare for such builds as well as anyone.


1: (Z)FXOLeenock

I'm going to go ahead and say it: Leenock is the best player in the world. Yeah, it's a title that's been in a heavy state of flux recently, and maybe Leenock doesn't have as clear a case as others have in the past. But someone has to be the best at any given point in time, and Leenock is the one who is most deserving of the title. Since November, no one else has beat as many top players, or placed as well in as many tournaments. Since November, he's defeated Life, Rain, Oz, Bomber, viOLet, Polt, Symbol, Soulkey, MKP, Keen, Squirtle and Bogus, only losing to GSL champ Sniper and MLG champ Life. Of the other contenders for the crown, Rain and Life ruined their cases by having disastrous runs in recent tournaments. Only GSL championship Sniper is really in the discussion with Leenock, and even then he's outweighed by Leenock's overall tournament finishes and number of top players he has defeated (Sniper won the head to head, but Leenock never failed to carry his team in the GSTL - let's say that's even).

Still, any of the contenders could leap ahead of Leenock with a superior performance at the Blizzard Cup, so it's important for Leenock to keep up his great form in this tournament as well. In that regard, Leenock should be pleased with his initial group, as he has a great chance to finish 1st place and get seeded directly into the Ro4. ZvZ is the match-up where he's looked the most beatable relatively, and an off-his-best DongRaeGu shouldn't make him worry too much. Leenock should crush both HerO and PartinG in macro games, so as long as he doesn't fall to two or three-base all-ins, he should be okay. The biggest problem could be Mvp, an opponent who has always been able to play Leenock closely. Every single one of their past meetings has been an exciting series that has gone down to the wire, and chances are, the upcoming match-up will provide more of the same.


Writers: Waxangel.
Graphics: shiroiusagi.
Editor: Waxangel.
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torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
December 17 2012 01:48 GMT
#2
I expect hero to shine through this group!! Waxangel dont like him
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 17 2012 01:49 GMT
#3
I am calling Parting to win this group. He had one bad day to get knocked out of code S (one of the people to whom he lost was the eventual champion), but other than that, he's been on a roll recently and has a lot of momentum coming into this.
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mRpolite
Profile Joined March 2012
189 Posts
December 17 2012 01:52 GMT
#4
can't wait
djack0666
Profile Joined March 2011
Belarus219 Posts
December 17 2012 01:52 GMT
#5
Hurray!! So pumped!! Thx for the write up!
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 17 2012 01:55 GMT
#6
On December 17 2012 10:48 torm3ntin wrote:
I expect hero to shine through this group!! Waxangel dont like him


The writers do not want to get burned twice. Last year they were calling Hero the best Protoss in the world and someone who would win the group over MC, DRG, MVP (back when he was scary and less injured). Needless to say, that was a terribly inaccurate prediction, and the writers are definitely being more cautious this time.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
December 17 2012 01:56 GMT
#7
From Mvp's fan club:

On December 15 2012 13:17 Entirety wrote:
(T)Mvp

TvP Overall: 58.11%
TvP 2012: 53.66%
TvP Last 10: 60.00%

TvZ Overall: 61.96%
TvZ 2012: 55.81%
TvZ Last 10: 40.00%

(Z)DongRaeGu

ZvT Overall: 60.00%
ZvT 2012: 57.78%
ZvT Last 10: 50.00%

Entombed Valley - TvZ: 46.0%

Head to Head Record: 3-6 (33.33%)

(P)PartinG

PvT Overall: 59.09%
PvT 2012: 60.38%
PvT Last 10: 60.00%

Antiga Shipyard - TvP: 50.4%

Head to Head Record: 3-3 (50.00%)

(P)HerO

PvT Overall: 55.32%
PvT 2012: 68.75%
PvT Last 10: 90.00%

Abyssal City - TvP: 60.0%

Head to Head Record: 6-3 (66.67%)

(Z)Leenock

ZvT Overall: 61.54%
ZvT 2012: 63.93%
ZvT Last 10: 70.00%

Bel'Shir Vestige - TvZ: 63.6%

Head to Head Record: 6-6 (50.00%)

Comments:

Last year, Mvp vs. DongRaeGu would have been an epic match to see with both players hyped up as best TvZ (other than MMA) and the best ZvT respectively. Now, the match looks very different. Mvp has always looked vulnerable in 2012, yet no one would dare count him out. DongRaeGu is an amazing player but he has been in a huge slump for months now - a slump that looks almost insurmountable. Meanwhile, Mvp went 3-4 against GSL/MLG champion Life. Mvp looks like he has a clear advantage in his first match of the night.

Next, we have Mvp vs. PartinG. While PartinG has pretty good PvT, displaying good form in his WCG/WCS back to back championships, PartinG has looked stronger against Zerg with his famed Immortal/Sentry Soul push. His PvT is still fearsome, but Mvp's TvP has looked downright scary this year. Recently, he went 3-2 against Rain, 2-0 against Flying, 2-1 against sOs. Earlier in the year, Mvp went 4-3 against Squirtle and, notably, 3-1 against PartinG. Mvp will be looking to repeat that result at the end of the year.

Now, Mvp vs. HerO. People talk about the PvT of Rain and PartinG, but by God look at HerO's PvT! Somehow, HerO has gotten to be some sort of PvT genius this year, reaching almost 70% overall and winning 9 of his last 10 games in Korea and 10 of his last 10 games internationally! That's an unbelievable hot streak, and his victories include victories over Heart (2-0), Polt (2-0), Ryung (2-1), TaeJa (4-0), ThorZaIN (2-0), ForGG (2-0), Apocalypse (2-0), TaeJa (3-0), and Polt (4-2). That streak is unbelievably crazy and I think HerO might be the toughest opponent for Mvp in this group.

Finally, Mvp vs. Leenock. Leenock has looked pretty crazy himself with his IPL victory and MLG 2nd place, displaying strong strong ZvT. In fact, a lot of people would pin Leenock as the #1 player in the world at the moment, and they wouldn't be too far off. I would favor Leenock against just about every Terran including Polt, Bomber, Innovation, Ryung, etc. However, Mvp is different from all other Terrans, he has this mysterious ability to win win win. This match will be absolutely crucial for Mvp, and I'll be expecting to see some magic out of him once more.

(Besides, there was a patch nerfing Zerg. )

Prediction
Mvp vs. DongRaeGu
Mvp vs. PartinG
Mvp vs. HerO
Mvp vs. Leenock

Mvp 3-1, advances to the Round of 6.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
December 17 2012 01:56 GMT
#8
Ah yes, the Mvp factor plays again. Don't think Mvp will make it first or second, maybe not even third, but he certainly can defy the expectations no matter what. Thinking

1) Leenock
2) PartinG
3) HerO
4) DRG
5) Mvp
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TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1401 Posts
December 17 2012 02:00 GMT
#9
I thought Wax learned to stop betting against Mvp
Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
December 17 2012 02:01 GMT
#10
Mvp needs to advance no matter what, terran hwaiting
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 17 2012 02:04 GMT
#11
gogo leenock! :D
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KJDog
Profile Joined February 2012
United States164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 02:08:36
December 17 2012 02:07 GMT
#12
1. (Z)Leenock
2. (P)PartinG.
3. (P)HerO
4. (T)Mvp
5. (Z)DRG
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
December 17 2012 02:11 GMT
#13
Hero looks so different from everyone else on the front page picture.

Leenock is a safe bet for first place but with players of this caliber, anything can happen. Hoping for MVP to pull through.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
December 17 2012 02:14 GMT
#14
gonna be pretty great
Scared that Mvp won't advance though
can i get my estro logo back pls
SuperEight
Profile Joined December 2011
United States333 Posts
December 17 2012 02:16 GMT
#15
Looks awesome! I hope DRG manages to advance.
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
December 17 2012 02:16 GMT
#16
Zergs to win it. Matchups (with the large maps) even post patch look very favorable for zerg players going in.

I love PartinG but I don't know if you can throw him above HerO.

MVP I think we're all hoping to get to the next round for variety's sake. Who knows how he'll factor into the other's preparation for this round.
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Johhey
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway72 Posts
December 17 2012 02:17 GMT
#17
MVP to win it all. Calling it now!
winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
December 17 2012 02:18 GMT
#18
Leenock
Mvp
PartinG
DRG
Hero
Incredible Miracle
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
December 17 2012 02:22 GMT
#19
Mvp is advancing in first.

He's strongest when doubters are about.
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HououinKyouma
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia152 Posts
December 17 2012 02:22 GMT
#20
I dont care i voted that hero wins all his games. screw my liquidbets.
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kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
December 17 2012 02:22 GMT
#21
I'd swap Mvp and Parting but otherwise I agree with the predictions.
Danger Boy
Profile Joined June 2011
United States47 Posts
December 17 2012 02:23 GMT
#22
This will be good. I hope MVP keep a terran in this!
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tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
December 17 2012 02:23 GMT
#23
I strongly disagree with the placement of MVP in this list. Oh well.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
December 17 2012 02:34 GMT
#24
I think DongRaeGu will surprise everyone and make a really strong showing here, 3-1 or 4-0.
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LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
December 17 2012 02:35 GMT
#25
As much as I love Parting, Leenock's been on such a tear lately that I'll take him as the clear favourite. Expecting Parting 2nd, DRG last, and Mvp barely triumphing over Hero to take the final spot.
WIllBIll
Profile Joined June 2011
590 Posts
December 17 2012 02:45 GMT
#26
Leenock, Mvp & HerO to go trough, hopefully.
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
December 17 2012 02:51 GMT
#27
DRG has a history of defying odds in the blizzard Cup.

parting 4-0
Leenock 3-1
DRG 2-2
Hero 1-3
Mvp 0-4
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vzSo
Profile Joined November 2012
Switzerland33 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 02:52:24
December 17 2012 02:51 GMT
#28
i'm so hype for this, staying up all night just to see mvp playing!!!!

only terran in this cup
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 03:12:01
December 17 2012 03:11 GMT
#29
I like MVP, and I get the whole "never bet against MVP" thing, but I just can't see putting him ahead of Parting. Yeah, Parting's championships have not been against strong competition, but it's not like he hasn't beaten good players at the same time...
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nt-rAven
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada405 Posts
December 17 2012 03:13 GMT
#30
MVP has this group in the bag!
get owned
MatiaasS !
Profile Joined October 2011
Chile167 Posts
December 17 2012 03:26 GMT
#31
That Group A !
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mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
December 17 2012 03:32 GMT
#32
MVP will win this tournament! He is the King of Liberty!
Long live the Boss Toss!
Disobedient(OD)
Profile Joined December 2012
United States4 Posts
December 17 2012 03:46 GMT
#33
I am curious is this event going to be PPV or will it have a free stream like most GSL events?
FoShao
Profile Joined November 2012
United States256 Posts
December 17 2012 03:48 GMT
#34
mmmmmm such a good lineup, don't really want to bet against anyone
Fischbacher
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada666 Posts
December 17 2012 04:01 GMT
#35
On December 17 2012 12:46 Disobedient(OD) wrote:
I am curious is this event going to be PPV or will it have a free stream like most GSL events?

I believe there was a free stream for the last Blizzard cup.
creamyturtle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States487 Posts
December 17 2012 04:02 GMT
#36
I can't figure out how to buy this event on Gomtv.net ?! I am a yearly ticket premium plus holder what is going wrong here...
Terran it up.
Disobedient(OD)
Profile Joined December 2012
United States4 Posts
December 17 2012 04:04 GMT
#37
On December 17 2012 13:01 Fischbacher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 12:46 Disobedient(OD) wrote:
I am curious is this event going to be PPV or will it have a free stream like most GSL events?

I believe there was a free stream for the last Blizzard cup.



Thanks!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44375 Posts
December 17 2012 04:17 GMT
#38
This group is so stacked :D

1. Leenock
2. PartinG
3. HerO
4. Mvp
5. DRG

neoghaleon will be unhappy with most of our predictions, as we're placing DRG towards the end >.<
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Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
December 17 2012 04:18 GMT
#39
Is this group real? Holy fuck.
The universe created an audience for itself.
FuGGu
Profile Joined March 2012
United States176 Posts
December 17 2012 04:26 GMT
#40
Liquid Hero wins for sure. Cements himself as the best Wings of Liberty Starcraft 2 Protoss player.
Fenrisulf
Profile Joined August 2010
United States325 Posts
December 17 2012 04:57 GMT
#41
leenock 4-0
parting 3-1
hero 1-3
mvp 1-3
drg 1-3

into epic tie break =D
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
December 17 2012 04:58 GMT
#42
On December 17 2012 13:26 FuGGu wrote:
Liquid Hero wins for sure. Cements himself as the best Wings of Liberty Starcraft 2 Protoss player.


Even if HerO wins, I think MC would be a better candidate for best WoL Protoss.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44375 Posts
December 17 2012 04:59 GMT
#43
On December 17 2012 13:26 FuGGu wrote:
Liquid Hero wins for sure. Cements himself as the best Wings of Liberty Starcraft 2 Protoss player.


Even if he won, he wouldn't even be remotely close.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
December 17 2012 05:02 GMT
#44
Parting is going to take this with his souful immortals.
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
th0
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway12 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 05:36:38
December 17 2012 05:16 GMT
#45
So sick lineup and the new flashplayer and better stream is supernice.

New Flashplayer <3
if you want something, go get it
Adonminus
Profile Joined January 2012
Israel543 Posts
December 17 2012 05:16 GMT
#46
The only one I'm sure advancing in this group is leenock, he's such a skilled zerg player. It's just so beautiful to watch his play. After that I agree on DRG being placed last and he plays much weaker than before. Then I'm not sure how will the games go with mvp, hero and parting, but since I like hero I hope parting will place 4th then, though not sure how mvp will do, he always seems like one of the most strong terrans but anything can happen.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33399 Posts
December 17 2012 05:20 GMT
#47
yay, I'm free from my duty to pick Mvp to win every game after this tournament
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 05:44:09
December 17 2012 05:41 GMT
#48
Completely agree, nobody has been as consistent at kicking ass as Leenock, and the unique flair he brings shows it's not just constant repetition, but a genuine understanding of how the game works. Sniper is too standard to handle crazy situations like Leenock does. Leenock taking first, Parting going to RO6.

Edit: Whoops, forgot two people advanced. Mvp takes third spot then uses his magical powers to somehow win it all
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
tokinho
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States792 Posts
December 17 2012 05:50 GMT
#49
So frustrating of a game in game 1 in hero vs leenock. Hero has better upgrades, bigger army, but broodlords come out and he loses cause he attacks into them and doesn't have a fourth base.
Smile
Footler
Profile Joined January 2010
United States560 Posts
December 17 2012 05:53 GMT
#50
Parting 3rd? You're nuts. Parting will top this group easy. Leenock probably second but Hero might surprise us.
I am The-Sink! Parting bandwagoner before it became a soul train.
coldnitess
Profile Joined October 2011
United States57 Posts
December 17 2012 05:55 GMT
#51
phew, lucky hero already took a fall yesterday from a zerg all in, he's ready!
abei1234
Profile Joined June 2011
United States89 Posts
December 17 2012 06:36 GMT
#52
Whoa. That Parting vs MVP game 1 was worth the season ticket price alone
abei1234
Fizzy
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden388 Posts
December 17 2012 06:48 GMT
#53
When predicting the outcome of this group, the writer forgot to take race into consideration. Placing a zerg as nr5 in a group is just not happening.
Mvp - Grubby - NaNiwa - Alliance DOTA2 <3
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
December 17 2012 07:02 GMT
#54
Parting fighting!
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
December 17 2012 07:03 GMT
#55
Leenock will take this whole thing.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
December 17 2012 07:05 GMT
#56
It is so gonna be Leenock on #1, since DRG is not that great in form I think. Though I am absolutely not looking forward to these matches. Sounds strange? Well, I just dislike ZvX right now, since it's 90% 4base turtle'ing to the 1a broodlord infestor army. I loved those muta ling bling ZvT midgames. Nowadays, ZvT (ZvP as well, it all comes down to letting zerg get into lategame and/or neural vs. vortex...I remember that special game of HerO on 6base vs a 3base zerg).

I hope, Mvp will show is special tactics, and I'm looking forward to each TvP.But that's basically it.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 07:23:30
December 17 2012 07:08 GMT
#57
The OP's doubt of faith in Dongraegu is disturbing. I think he has good chances to make it into the playoffs. He needs to prove all those naysayers wrong!
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
December 17 2012 07:16 GMT
#58
Leenock my boy got this
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
December 17 2012 07:23 GMT
#59
So when Mvp wins the tournament, will it count as a gsl title and give him his final pin and g5l trophy?
ModeratorFather of bunnies
jinzo123
Profile Joined September 2009
27 Posts
December 17 2012 08:13 GMT
#60
Only one terran and he is getting owned by protoss and zergs hahahahah

Terran is worthless race

User was warned for this post
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 08:30:37
December 17 2012 08:27 GMT
#61
On December 17 2012 13:26 FuGGu wrote:
Liquid Hero wins for sure. Cements himself as the best Wings of Liberty Starcraft 2 Protoss player.

not looking good so far

On December 17 2012 16:23 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
So when Mvp wins the tournament, will it count as a gsl title and give him his final pin and g5l trophy?

yup i guess

On December 17 2012 14:53 Footler wrote:
Parting 3rd? You're nuts. Parting will top this group easy. Leenock probably second but Hero might surprise us.

nuts indeed

On December 17 2012 14:20 Waxangel wrote:
yay, I'm free from my duty to pick Mvp to win every game after this tournament

how come lol
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
December 17 2012 08:39 GMT
#62
On December 17 2012 10:55 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 10:48 torm3ntin wrote:
I expect hero to shine through this group!! Waxangel dont like him


The writers do not want to get burned twice. Last year they were calling Hero the best Protoss in the world and someone who would win the group over MC, DRG, MVP (back when he was scary and less injured). Needless to say, that was a terribly inaccurate prediction, and the writers are definitely being more cautious this time.


calling him the best toss in the world was completely ludicrous. clearly, their predictions for him rn are much more accurate and unbiased
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
December 17 2012 08:40 GMT
#63
On December 17 2012 13:26 FuGGu wrote:
Liquid Hero wins for sure. Cements himself as the best Wings of Liberty Starcraft 2 Protoss player.


wut
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
Gihi
Profile Joined September 2011
384 Posts
December 17 2012 08:46 GMT
#64
Totally agree with everything.
Really didn't like the part of "Is Mvp his time over??" though... If anything his time is yet to come after his wrist has healed.
Strong faith in him. Chances are big he pulls it off, but Leenock will be a big problem indeed. Hope he gets out first, else it'll be second.
steelerz
Profile Joined October 2011
United States4 Posts
December 17 2012 08:51 GMT
#65
Kind of a noob question but.. How do I watch these games live or not live?? prefferably live though
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 17 2012 08:53 GMT
#66
On December 17 2012 17:51 steelerz wrote:
Kind of a noob question but.. How do I watch these games live or not live?? prefferably live though

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=388044

LR thread here.
go to gomtv.com to watch live
starts in 20 mins!
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Elitios
Profile Joined February 2012
France164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 09:02:02
December 17 2012 09:00 GMT
#67
1.-Leenock: because I will still go for Leenock as best overall player, since he has the skills, the tactics, the style, the results, and the race every other is having trouble with lately.

2.-HerO: because is the best protoss in the world. His results may not be as consistent as some others, but you just need to watch his games to be convinced that he has more skill than anybody else.

3.- Parting or MvP: depending on how much chances parting takes and how much it pays off, vs how much win factor mvp will be able to call upon

5.- DRG: That's sad, but he seems the weakest of the bunch.

EDIT: Looks like I got it all wrong :D
thesums
Profile Joined December 2010
Taiwan257 Posts
December 17 2012 09:08 GMT
#68
weird that everyone thinks Hero is going to win like every single time....is it because he is in TL that he is such a fan favorite? I still do not buy the stargate play vs zerg. Parting's robo style is superior. Hero won some foreign tournaments recently but those did not have many big hitters from Korean I believe.

It is sad to see Mvp lose his first 2 games, it feels like terran has to resort to early game more and more these days. Actually a lot of all-ins in SC2 in general still.
Tangel0
Profile Joined June 2012
24 Posts
December 17 2012 09:56 GMT
#69
wow mvp over, terran so weak
steelerz
Profile Joined October 2011
United States4 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 11:00:57
December 17 2012 10:58 GMT
#70
On December 17 2012 17:53 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 17:51 steelerz wrote:
Kind of a noob question but.. How do I watch these games live or not live?? prefferably live though

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=388044

LR thread here.
go to gomtv.com to watch live
starts in 20 mins!


Thanks.. I just joined so I dont know all the accronyms and what not.. First what does LR mean (im guessing Live Replay).. second does it cost money to watch these events live?
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
December 17 2012 11:33 GMT
#71
dat DRG reverse curse!
Whatever you're doing is working, waxangel.
Please never stop calling out DRG as the worst of the group.

<3
moo...for DRG
xkxjifdsa
Profile Joined December 2012
4 Posts
December 17 2012 11:42 GMT
#72
--- Nuked ---
Blqck
Profile Joined June 2011
France11 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 11:44:13
December 17 2012 11:43 GMT
#73
DRG MAN
He finally woke up!
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
December 17 2012 11:57 GMT
#74
Can't help but root for HerO. Sooo many tournaments for the TL super-stars lately though. No wonder they're strugglin' a bit in the ProLeague.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 12:04:39
December 17 2012 12:03 GMT
#75
EDIT: Whoops, wrong thread.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
ROOTRob
Profile Joined April 2012
United States34 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 12:27:03
December 17 2012 12:24 GMT
#76
Game 3 hero vs parting, hero definitely wasn't completely on his game, I think the nerves got to him, hope he does better next time if he doesn't make it

EDIT: whoops wrong thread ..
gosublade
Profile Joined May 2011
632 Posts
December 17 2012 12:38 GMT
#77
right now, the phase, where there are only 2 races in the game, is incredibly boring
Not even death can save you from me.
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
December 17 2012 12:55 GMT
#78
On December 17 2012 21:38 gosublade wrote:
right now, the phase, where there are only 2 races in the game, is incredibly boring


Pretty much... All this talk about how there is fewer viewers because of over saturation and what not, when honestly, most people just don't bother to watch another ZvP or ZvZ... At MLG Fall Championship the viewer number dropped by 10.000 in an instant when Flash as the last Terran was kicked out of the turnament.
LowEloPlayer
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States205 Posts
December 17 2012 12:59 GMT
#79
once zerg actually gets nerfed so broodlord infestor isn't unbeatable anymore, let's see if you still call leenock the best player in the world.
hmm... let's think about it
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 17 2012 13:05 GMT
#80
On December 17 2012 21:59 LowEloPlayer wrote:
once zerg actually gets nerfed so broodlord infestor isn't unbeatable anymore, let's see if you still call leenock the best player in the world.

he was "the best in the world" already last year for a short period of time
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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kaNt-
Profile Joined December 2012
163 Posts
December 17 2012 13:42 GMT
#81
Leenock is crazy good right know
EzekyleAbaddon
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany8 Posts
December 17 2012 13:56 GMT
#82
1st MVP
2ndHERO
3rdPARTING
"Unbent, untamed, unbroken."
BlinGsc2
Profile Joined December 2012
United States13 Posts
December 17 2012 15:24 GMT
#83
how is this not the group of death? this is before we even see the other ones!
Meh
Novacute
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia313 Posts
December 17 2012 16:10 GMT
#84
So sad to see MVP out already. The only Terran hope is gone . Now for parting to take it all.
lordofsoup
Profile Joined January 2012
United States159 Posts
December 17 2012 22:34 GMT
#85
I'm somewhat confused as to why MMA wasn't invited back as last year's champion
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