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September 4th, 2012 01:23 GMT
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Code S Ro32: Group A Recap


By: Fionn

Results from Live report thread by opterown.
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
Seed vs. SuHoSin
(P)Seed <Entombed Valley> (Z)SuHoSin
(P)Seed (Z)SuHoSin
(P)Seed <Daybreak> (Z)SuHoSin

(P)Seed Wins 2-1!

Leenock vs. PartinG
(Z)Leenock <Cloud Kingdom> (P)PartinG
(Z)Leenock <Ohana> (P)PartinG
(Z)Leenock <Daybreak> (P)PartinG

(P)PartinG Wins 2-1!

Winners' Match
(P)Seed <Ohana> (P)PartinG
(P)Seed <Entombed Valley> (P)PartinG
(P)Seed <Daybreak> (P)PartinG

(P)Seed Wins 2-1!

Losers' Match
(Z)SuHoSin <Ohana> (Z)Leenock
(Z)SuHoSin <Daybreak> (Z)Leenock
(Z)SuHoSin <> (Z)Leenock

(Z)Leenock Wins 2-0!

Final Match
(P)PartinG <Whirlwind> (Z)Leenock
(P)PartinG <Cloud Kingdom> (Z)Leenock
(P)PartinG <> (Z)Leenock

(Z)Leenock Wins 2-0!



(P)Seed and (Z)Leenock advance to Code S RO16!



Seed Survives
- The defending GSL champion advances first in the group, but by a narrower margin than expected.

(P)LG-IM_Seed started where he left off last season. Yet again, his games weren't pretty, but he got the job done in the end. His title defense didn't start with a 2-0 mauling of (Z)ST_SuHoSin like most thought would happen, but the champion showed his resiliency, taking out the Startale Zerg and (P)ST_PartinG by 2-1 scorelines to get out of his group in first place.

The night started out like you would have expected. SuHoSin went for a wacky but brilliant fast-drop strategy, but wasn't able to execute it well enough. Seed defended nicely, and with the part-time gamer not being able to get the most out of his inventive strategy, the IM Protoss took an easy first game victory. Starting the second game on GSL's new map Abyssal City, Seed was caught off guard by Suhosin's surprise strategy: standard play. Suhosin played a brilliant back-stabbing style on the new map, running circles around Seed by exploiting the map's multiple routes to their fullest.

Losing on the second map to the player thought of as by far the weakest of the thirty-two players in this season's tournament, Seed kept composed and finished him off on Daybreak. SuHoSin continued to impress, reverting back to his Super Tournament style where he continually made muta after muta, harassing the main and natural of his opponent, and killing off 100 of Seed's probes. The problem was that like most outdated strategies, SuHoSin never actually transitioned from making mutas and had no answer for Seed's death ball at the end of the game. It didn't matter that Seed lost a hundred probes because even without a superior economy, SuHoSin's army composition of 30+ mutas couldn't stand a chance against Seed's templars and stalkers.

Getting out of the first match of the night, Seed turned his attention onto Parting. In what turned out to be a series of Swiss cheese, both players went back and forth exchanging quick death blows to their opponent. When it came to the final game of the series, again on Daybreak, Seed was able to stop Parting's quick four gate with stalkers, transition into a few immortals and a colossus, and crush the Startale Protoss while he was trying to build his economy with a natural base. Having invested all of his resources into his army, Seed went in for the unstoppable all-in and took first place in the group.

Looking forward, Seed didn't have the most impressive debut as a defending champion, but at least he didn't fall out in the first round. He isn't a champion that you will see crushing everyone and going for a perfect season, but he has a knack for getting out of tough situations and pulling through in the clutch. As champion going into group selections, Seed will once again have an opportunity to pick his prey for his next round, hoping to make it to a second straight quarterfinals.

Revenge of the Leenocktopus
- Leenock advances onto the Ro16 with victories over SuHoSin and Parting.

(Z)FXOLeenock said in his winner's interview that if you beat him once, you will not beat him the second time around. Parting was able to triumph with all-ins when the two first met up in the first match of the night, but Leenock was ready when they faced off to see who would be advancing out of the group in second place.

In his first game of the night, Leenock was able to punish PartinG's extreme passiveness by massing an unstoppable hive composition and wiping him from the map. However, PartinG followed his initial loss with two excellently performed all-ins, and Leenock fell 1 - 2 to the losers match.

Falling into the loser's match and having to win two series to advance, the ace of FXO started to get to work. First up was SuHoSin, coming off a close loss to Seed in the opening series of the night. Facing two straight 10 pools in a row, Leenock batted down both attempts despite opening hatch first each time, rolling over his brother of the Swarm without difficulty. SuHoSin tried to catch the young Zerg napping, but the MLG champion was ready and knew exactly how to handle SuHoSin's early pressure.

Getting a second chance to take on Parting, Leenock didn't let it go to waste. Winning 2 - 0 in the final series of the night, Leenock banished Parting into Code A and earned his Ro16 spot. The first game saw Leenock use the same muta-bane-ling style that was crucial in his MLG championship run, and it proved to be no worse for wear as he harassed PartinG half to the death before finishing him off. After that, Leenock went back to his earliest roots, faking a regular macro opening only to go for a roach-ling all-in. PartinG wasn't able to respond correctly, and took his second straight loss to drop out of Code S. Two of the best maps for Zerg might have been taken out of the map pool this season, but that hasn't bothered Leenock so far. Heading into the second round, Leenock is one of the firm favorites to take the entire season.


Code S Ro32: Group B Preview


By: Porcelina

Group B: (Z)TSL_Symbol, (T)LG-IM_Yoda, (P)Liquid'HerO, (T)SlayerS_Ryung


(Z)TSL_Symbol for perhaps the first time in his career - and certainly for the first time since his meteoric rise last season - is in a position where he has to bounce back. While he has lost important matches in high stakes situations before, the defeat at the hands of Seed last season must have stung especially painfully. Symbol found himself 2 - 0 up in a Bo5, but could not find the strength to finish off the eventual champion and vampire incarnate.

Symbol's career path has an uncanny similarity to DongRaeGu's in 2011, but condensed into just a few short months. Like the MVP Zerg, he carried his team in the GSTL, he showcased brilliant play in all aspects of the game, almost triumphed in a foreign tournament and finally started to make a real mark at the most prestigious stage in SC2, the GSL Code S.

When DRG had his slight fall from grace, he rebounded in GSL Season One to win the tournament and to be crowned the new king of Zerg. If Symbol's imitation of DongRaeGu is to continue, then he should fall from the Ro32 this season before he finds his way. However, since this is the abridged version of DRG's career, then maybe he can bypass that step and begin his recovery immediately. Of course, we never know how players respond to heartbreak until we see them spring back into action.

Interestingly, Symbol’s first opponent is a player in a similar position to his from last season. Just as people might have once estimated Symbol as the third or fourth best Zerg on TSL, (T)LG-IM_Yoda was also held in the same low regard for the Incredible Miracle Terran line-up.

Like Symbol, YoDa has gained some hype coming into the tournament, and enters this season as a possible candidate for the royal road. His prior resume isn't nearly as extensive as Symbol's going into Code S Season three - no Iron Squid or GSTL domination here - but the fact that he had been anointed by Mvp as the best LG-IM player is something that weighs heavily on everyone's mind.

YoDa’s run through Code A was impressive. He swept his part of the bracket, beating one player of each race with the air of a player who could afford to stay in second gear, just like Symbol in the previous season. Entering this match, both players have had time to prepare, time to refocus. Neither has been particularly active since the last season of GSL, which should mean that time for preparation has been ample, but also that we have few recent trends to analyze. What is known is that they face one another in their statistically best matchup. Of course, Symbol is now facing Terrans more prepared for a five or six Queen opening than the ones during his reign as the master of ZvT. On the other hand, it has been a long time since YoDa was truly tested at TvZ, his last season’s win coming against a July on the verge of retirement.

Anything could happen here. Symbol has never really been contested as a dominant ZvT force; his downfall came at the hands of Protoss in both Code S and the GSTL. YoDa meanwhile has had time to study his opponent, and has more momentum leading up to the match. On the other hand, Symbol has shown that he has what it takes to not only survive but to thrive in the high pressure situation of a round of 32 group in Code S, while YoDa still has to prove that he can funnel all the promise and all the proficiency in the training room into Code S success.

It is hard to bet against Symbol, who has the head to head record of 2 - 0 with wins in both GSTL S1 and S2. While he showed mortality at the end of last season in both Code S and GSTL, he was the best Zerg of the season, well on his way to widely being regarded as the best Zerg in the world. He has done very little to lose the title in terms of result, and while the buzz has faded, he should be able to persevere as long as he has not lost his confidence.

(P)Liquid'HerO is coming into the group as the major fan favorite. There are a few tropes surrounding him, he has nerve issues, he is creative, he is fast, he loses to Protoss (and Taeja). What may not be considered and might even be thought of as slightly odd in this group is that he is also the one with the highest ever Code S finish. While he was not able to really come through on his promise in season two, suffering a 0 - 3 thrashing at the hands of Squirtle in the semis, it did qualify him for an elite club of having a top four finish.

He is also in the position of attending the most foreign events of any in Group B. While often regarded as an impediment to GSL success, for HerO it has been a life changer. Since joining Liquid, he has gone from being an obscure Protoss player on the fringe of GSL qualification to being a consistent feature of Sunday competition in the West and someone you rather expect to see in Code S in the East. Moreover, long term exposure to foreign tournaments has correlated to a gradual increase in his consistency. It's hard to say there's a causal relationship, but most definitely looks like a different player than he was a year ago, playing with confidence and swagger.

Finding himself in an era devoid of 1/1/1's and in a group lacking opposing Protoss players, one should expect HerO to feel good about his chances to make a second deep run in Code S. Of course, on the flip side he finds himself in the position where he has to live up to expectations, but HerO has become better and better at bearing that burden.

On the opposite side for the group’s second match is (T)SlayerS_Ryung. While the three other group members have reputations for being mercurial or unproven, Ryung is almost the opposite. He is the solid one, the consistent one, the one you know will always deliver. And while he might not be as flashy as the others, in the long haul you would feel more comfortable betting on him to claw his way into the Ro16 at all costs.

Ryung has to feel a certain need to make his mark. He has been sharking around the upper echelons of GSL for some time, considerably longer than his opponents. He has had seasons of real promise, only losing in close games to truly inspired enemies. He also has the responsibility of living up to his status of the prime SlayerS Terran. With MMA seemingly back in good graces with the team's management, Ryung will want to cement the top dog position he took in the former captain's absence.

Unlike the previous match, there is a fair amount of data on how HerO and Ryung perform head to head. In NASL S3, they first met in the regular season where HerO won 2-0 and then again in the round of sixteen, where HerO came back from 0-2 to make the offline finals in Toronto by winning the last three maps. Most recently, at MLG Raleigh, they faced one another again. The trend continued in America as it had started in the online games during NASL with HerO winning 2-1. For the statistically inclined, one can also note that HerO is 6-1 vs. Ryung on maps featured in the current season of GSL.

It all makes sense in a way. All the games have been played recently, after HerO started to grow in stature as a PvT player. Meanwhile Ryung has never excelled at the matchup. Additionally, Ryung matches up poorly against HerO in terms of style, lacking the strong all-in ability to keep HerO on his toes, while being susceptible to HerO's surprisingly frequent all-in tactics. While HerO has neither the rock-solid PvT defense of Parting nor the brutal effectiveness of Squirtle on two bases, he has found himself able to dispatch of Ryung on most occasions.

There are some holes in the play of both; however they seem graver on the side of the Terran. Unless Ryung is completely comfortable in taking it into a late game without being too greedy or inflicting severe damage on HerO’s economy, he faces an uphill battle.

Overall outlook and predictions

If we follow the reasoning above, the winners final should come down to HerO vs Symbol in a PvZ. It's the match-up HerO has always been famous for, and the one that caused Symbol to go on his recent slump. Symbol has not shown weak ZvP by any means, but HerO should have an advantage. If anything, Symbol seems to more resemble a mix of DRG and Nestea in this matchup, unpredictable with an excellent midgame but not as decisively strong super late game. HerO owes a lot of his fame to defeating that type of Zerg player, and it seems like he will pounce on any chance to strengthen his reputation as one of the premier PvZ players in the world.

In the lower bracket, Ryung and YoDa should be a spectacular TvT. YoDa is a bit bothersome to predict, he has shown excellent game sense and in particular strong early game, both offensively and defensively. Ryung has his forte on a more strategic level, his reputation as a TvT specialist owes a lot to his ability to outplay, out-think and outmaneuver his opponents. Betting your life on YoDa not being able to compete with Ryung in the late game seems like a foolish life decision, but suspecting that it might favor the SlayerS player seems reasonable.

Ryung vs. Symbol would then be the match that decides the second place finisher. Overall, Symbol has an advantage in the sheer skill he showed at his peak. It remains to be seen how he would adapt to the mech play largely popularized by Mvp and it is uncertain if his ZvT will ever be as untouchable as it was in past months. On the other hand, it would not be the first time Ryung was eliminated from a group where he lost in a slightly unlucky manner, fought his way back with impressive play only to go out in a highly contested rubber match. As much as I have a feeling that Ryung will be a break out star who simply needs a little bit of luck to land a top eight finish, it's overridden by the suspicion that he is not quite ready to make his own luck just yet.


Symbol > YoDa
HerO > Ryung
HerO > Symbol
Ryung > YoDa
Symbol > Ryung

HerO and Symbol advance



Writer: Fionn and Porcelina.
Graphics and Art: Meko.
Editor: Waxangel.
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MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
September 04 2012 01:25 GMT
#2
You said ST_Leenock in the recap
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desarrisc
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Canada226 Posts
September 04 2012 01:27 GMT
#3
Thanks for the writeup! With school starting and all, this is probably the only way I can keep up with GSL. Also Hero + Symbol fighting!
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Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
September 04 2012 01:31 GMT
#4
I hope you will be right this time with your prediction, Fionn.

LiquidHerO hwaiting!
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Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 01:33:34
September 04 2012 01:32 GMT
#5
I hate Group B.

If the matchups lined up differently, I would most certainly predict different winners. Streaky players = headaches. Also, for example if Yoda wins the first match, which is far from improbable, I would probably have him as the winner of the group. As it stands, I have him coming in last.

/cry
trada
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany347 Posts
September 04 2012 01:34 GMT
#6
Hero and Ryung got this.
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
September 04 2012 01:35 GMT
#7
yeah this looks like symbol hero, but this is a group of on off players. Gogo hero!
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Canada32740 Posts
September 04 2012 01:38 GMT
#8
Let's go Symbol!
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Canada499 Posts
September 04 2012 01:42 GMT
#9
you sure dont like seed
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 04 2012 01:43 GMT
#10
Symbol and HerO but in THAT order.

I still think Symbol can take HerO even in his weakest matchup. 2-1 at least.
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Germany1726 Posts
September 04 2012 01:47 GMT
#11
HerO + Symbol would be awesome!
TheCupholder
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Canada58 Posts
September 04 2012 01:52 GMT
#12
lol, i really didn't believe it, or want to believe it but all these posters are right.... Whoever is writing these articles has a serious hate on for Seed. I don't get it.. respect him, first in group, first in last season code s, what more can the guy do to get some recognition!
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Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
September 04 2012 01:53 GMT
#13
Ryung's TvZ alternates between being pretty average and mind-blowingly good. If he brings his A-game, Symbol vs Ryung could be an absolutely outstanding match.
DeathPengu
Profile Joined January 2011
Taiwan137 Posts
September 04 2012 01:55 GMT
#14
I can't accept any result except HerO/Ryung advance.
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
September 04 2012 01:57 GMT
#15
two terrans will advance :D
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
September 04 2012 01:59 GMT
#16
Go Hero and Symbol! But mainly Hero!
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EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
September 04 2012 02:00 GMT
#17
GOGO Ryung! Just do what you did against DRG.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 04 2012 02:01 GMT
#18
These groups are ridiculous, I want all these players to advance...

Hero and Yoda, I guess.
ke_ivan
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore374 Posts
September 04 2012 02:04 GMT
#19
i've been outta it for awhile, but i think yoda will beat symbol. and i think ryung will beat yoda.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 04 2012 02:04 GMT
#20
Its odd to see Fionn write that
The defending GSL champion advances first in the group, but by a narrower margin than expected.
since Fionn was the one that predicted that Seed would not be able to leave the group.

Anyway, I also predicted that HerO and Symbol would win this group, so the fact that the TL writers have predicted the same has got me worried...

HerO and Symbol FIGHTING!!
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
September 04 2012 02:21 GMT
#21
wining two 2-0's and advance to Ro16, YoDa will.
Myrddraal
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia937 Posts
September 04 2012 02:22 GMT
#22
On September 04 2012 10:52 TheCupholder wrote:
lol, i really didn't believe it, or want to believe it but all these posters are right.... Whoever is writing these articles has a serious hate on for Seed. I don't get it.. respect him, first in group, first in last season code s, what more can the guy do to get some recognition!

All these posters? You mean the one other poster before you that said it?

What was written is an accurate portrayal of what happened, I don't see any hate, and he is getting plenty of recognition. The prediction said he was the favourite (even if it didn't predict him to make it through) and the recap said he made it through by a narrower margin than expected, what exactly is wrong/hateful about that?
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Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
September 04 2012 02:36 GMT
#23
yoda and hero to advance HUZZAH Good write-up as usual guys
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LowEloPlayer
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States205 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 02:56:59
September 04 2012 02:56 GMT
#24
Symbol and Ryung :D (Enough PvZ everywhere, we need some Terrans in the ro16+!)
hmm... let's think about it
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 03:04:20
September 04 2012 02:59 GMT
#25
On September 04 2012 11:22 Myrddraal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 10:52 TheCupholder wrote:
lol, i really didn't believe it, or want to believe it but all these posters are right.... Whoever is writing these articles has a serious hate on for Seed. I don't get it.. respect him, first in group, first in last season code s, what more can the guy do to get some recognition!

All these posters? You mean the one other poster before you that said it?

What was written is an accurate portrayal of what happened, I don't see any hate, and he is getting plenty of recognition. The prediction said he was the favourite (even if it didn't predict him to make it through) and the recap said he made it through by a narrower margin than expected, what exactly is wrong/hateful about that?


As a Seed fan I don't see anything spiteful in the content =/

I guess someone didn't like the fact that they said he didn't look infallible. How dare they. Champions are flawless!

In other news: Suhoshin impressed me in his ZvP. I hope to see the underdog return again next season.

EDIT: Oh and group B. Predictions are pretty safe, but Ryung is the definition of safe. It comes down to Symbol I think. I expect Hero to advance 2-0. It will depend if Symbol can maintain freight-train-ZvT status against good TvZ players Ryung and Yoda. Yoda appears to be the IM TvZ sniper alongside Happy, though both got caught with their pants down last GSTL season.
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LongBow
Profile Joined May 2012
United States265 Posts
September 04 2012 03:00 GMT
#26
I agree completely with the predictions list. Unfortunately, Yoda is pretty hyped. He might turn this group on its head. HERO FIGHTINGGG
wrier
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada291 Posts
September 04 2012 03:26 GMT
#27
i gotta say, i don't agree with hero beating symbol. that might just be me, but symbol looked scary last season and after his loss to seed when he was up 2-0, i bet he's ready to crush some protoss players.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
September 04 2012 03:28 GMT
#28
Seed Survives
- The defending GSL champion advances first in the group, but by a narrower margin than expected.
You didn't even expect him to make it through >_>
Refer to my post.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4408 Posts
September 04 2012 03:30 GMT
#29
On September 04 2012 10:52 TheCupholder wrote:
lol, i really didn't believe it, or want to believe it but all these posters are right.... Whoever is writing these articles has a serious hate on for Seed. I don't get it.. respect him, first in group, first in last season code s, what more can the guy do to get some recognition!


It's not Seed it's IM as a whole Fionn hates IM.
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 03:43:27
September 04 2012 03:42 GMT
#30
Edit: Nevermind.
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
September 04 2012 03:54 GMT
#31
Great writeup and I am hoping that Symbol HerO advance as well. Heres to hoping HerO can be the third protoss to win a GSL. HerO fighting!!!!!!!!!
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Survivor61316
Profile Joined July 2012
United States470 Posts
September 04 2012 03:55 GMT
#32
I like how the writer says that Seed advanced by a closer margin than expected, yet in the Round A preview he didn't even have Seed advancing lol..hate more

HerO Fighting!!!
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tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
September 04 2012 04:14 GMT
#33
Go HerO!
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
September 04 2012 04:18 GMT
#34
On September 04 2012 12:30 JJH777 wrote:
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On September 04 2012 10:52 TheCupholder wrote:
lol, i really didn't believe it, or want to believe it but all these posters are right.... Whoever is writing these articles has a serious hate on for Seed. I don't get it.. respect him, first in group, first in last season code s, what more can the guy do to get some recognition!


It's not Seed it's IM as a whole Fionn hates IM.


Agreed Fionn still owes IMMVP an apology and also a front page article about his IEM win.
wchigo
Profile Joined September 2010
China71 Posts
September 04 2012 04:28 GMT
#35
On September 04 2012 12:26 wrier wrote:
i gotta say, i don't agree with hero beating symbol. that might just be me, but symbol looked scary last season and after his loss to seed when he was up 2-0, i bet he's ready to crush some protoss players.

One could almost say the same about DRG last season, when he lost in the RO4 in the GSL and then in the following night, the GSTL. He did manage to come back and qualify fairly easily for this season's Code S, but I would still argue that he's been in the biggest slump of his career thus far.

It could pretty much go either way: either he gets super determined and has been working his arse off in the off-season and comes back to smash face, or he'll still have that big meltdown in the back of his mind eating away at him and having a sizeable effect on his play.

For me personally, my thoughts and LB pretty much went the same way as Fionn's: HerO and Symbol to advance (in that same order). Being that HerO is a PvZ expert and Symbol didn't look as untouchable in ZvP that he did in ZvT last season, I think the Liquid Toss will take the head-to-head.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 04 2012 04:33 GMT
#36
On September 04 2012 13:18 ref4 wrote:
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On September 04 2012 12:30 JJH777 wrote:
On September 04 2012 10:52 TheCupholder wrote:
lol, i really didn't believe it, or want to believe it but all these posters are right.... Whoever is writing these articles has a serious hate on for Seed. I don't get it.. respect him, first in group, first in last season code s, what more can the guy do to get some recognition!


It's not Seed it's IM as a whole Fionn hates IM.


Agreed Fionn still owes IMMVP an apology and also a front page article about his IEM win.


That was Waxangel actually not Fionn ^^
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
September 04 2012 04:57 GMT
#37
On September 04 2012 13:28 wchigo wrote:
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On September 04 2012 12:26 wrier wrote:
i gotta say, i don't agree with hero beating symbol. that might just be me, but symbol looked scary last season and after his loss to seed when he was up 2-0, i bet he's ready to crush some protoss players.

One could almost say the same about DRG last season, when he lost in the RO4 in the GSL and then in the following night, the GSTL. He did manage to come back and qualify fairly easily for this season's Code S, but I would still argue that he's been in the biggest slump of his career thus far.

By reaching the round of 8 Drg qualified for this season's code S. You make it sound as if he actually played additional games to get back in Code S, after he was defeated by MC.
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laerteis
Profile Joined August 2012
United States78 Posts
September 04 2012 05:12 GMT
#38
I think Fionn was just referring to the widely shared opinion that Seed would go through, despite his own predictions.

While I thought he was crazy to predict Seed lose, to be fair the games didn't turn out *that* much differently than he said. The only specifically wrong prediction was Parting vs Seed, and PvP doesn't really count for prediction accuracy.

So, I say overall gj to fionn for solid predictions and article. But also HAHA Seed won :D <3
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Ryncol
Profile Joined July 2011
United States980 Posts
September 04 2012 05:33 GMT
#39
Hero/Ryung!
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
September 04 2012 05:33 GMT
#40
actually Fionn probably just hates LG products

Jokes aside... but when has Seed NOT barely not make it out a match? vs MC in finals maybe but he's known to somehow scrap a win everytime he plays. He's used to it and he has the confidence and ability to keep his cool when those situations occur.
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AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
September 04 2012 07:26 GMT
#41
The bias is strong in this write up
IM & EG supporter
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 04 2012 07:26 GMT
#42
Good read.

I really wish people would stop using the term "backstab", it's actually developed into a really big pet-peeve of mine.
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Vaapad
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway171 Posts
September 04 2012 08:24 GMT
#43
hero and symbol are the clear favorites. Terrans are having a harsh time idd.
... and i am zerg
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Trolle
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Sweden227 Posts
September 04 2012 08:30 GMT
#44
gogo Ryung!
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virtu
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom147 Posts
September 04 2012 10:49 GMT
#45
Time to stop reading this trash until the incredible anti LG-IM bias stops, this is coming from someone who isn't even an LG-IM fan.
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
September 04 2012 11:45 GMT
#46
Agree with Hero and Symbol advancing. Good call.
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FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
September 04 2012 11:46 GMT
#47
Dat proposal.
Pocky52
Profile Joined November 2011
United States463 Posts
September 04 2012 13:15 GMT
#48
Hoping for HerO and Ryung!
wchigo
Profile Joined September 2010
China71 Posts
September 04 2012 14:27 GMT
#49
On September 04 2012 13:57 Cyanocyst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 13:28 wchigo wrote:
On September 04 2012 12:26 wrier wrote:
i gotta say, i don't agree with hero beating symbol. that might just be me, but symbol looked scary last season and after his loss to seed when he was up 2-0, i bet he's ready to crush some protoss players.

One could almost say the same about DRG last season, when he lost in the RO4 in the GSL and then in the following night, the GSTL. He did manage to come back and qualify fairly easily for this season's Code S, but I would still argue that he's been in the biggest slump of his career thus far.

By reaching the round of 8 Drg qualified for this season's code S. You make it sound as if he actually played additional games to get back in Code S, after he was defeated by MC.

Ah yes, you are correct. I attribute my mistake to posting at work and being jet lagged. Thank you for the correction there. I do stand by the rest of my post though.
Pucca
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Taiwan1280 Posts
September 04 2012 16:04 GMT
#50
Meko really does not like T's from advancing it seems :p. Will support Ryung though been a fan since GSL S3. Go Ryung. **Not see VOD / Spoilers yet**
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niilzon
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium105 Posts
September 05 2012 08:43 GMT
#51
As always, a top quality writeup. Thanks alot ! Symbol FTW ! :D
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