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Dauntless
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway548 Posts
June 22 2012 21:49 GMT
#441
Absolutely fantastic. Liquid`♥
Dauntless.156 EU || Liquid´HerO | Grubby.Grubby
Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 21:50:56
June 22 2012 21:50 GMT
#442
Like some others here have already said, the documentary was a bit lackluster as such. Still very nice work from all who participated and I enjoyed it, especially the visual work by lip and fishuu.
tranmillitary
Profile Joined August 2011
210 Posts
June 22 2012 21:51 GMT
#443
Is it just me or does Haypro sound like BJ penn....
Cuce
Profile Joined March 2011
Turkey1127 Posts
June 22 2012 21:51 GMT
#444
^^
64K RAM SYSTEM 38911 BASIC BYTES FREE
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
June 22 2012 21:51 GMT
#445
Really really awesome!!! Loved it.
Rainman5419
Profile Joined January 2011
United States92 Posts
June 22 2012 21:51 GMT
#446
To try and save TL a bit of money would you guys make it available via torrent possibly?
Member of UNT CSL, Season 5 CSL Champs! "The true test of a man’s character is what he does when no one is watching." -John Wooden
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
June 22 2012 21:51 GMT
#447
not bad not bad ; )
Stork[gm]
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
June 22 2012 21:52 GMT
#448
Hoped for a bit more of a storyline and not just spotlights for all the players one by one. Still I very much enjoyed it. Thanks.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
June 22 2012 21:52 GMT
#449
wow... this was SOOOO GOOD

I am SO impressed! Gj by everybody!

Also, did anyone else notice that when hero talked about a teammate he talked first about how they looked? lolololol
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
June 22 2012 21:53 GMT
#450
I will be buying some posters and supporting this historic documentary and important project!! Such an inspiring day for Starcraft.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Fatlord
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom32 Posts
June 22 2012 21:53 GMT
#451
very nice very nice, especially with huk inside. love team liquid forever
LavendrGooms
Profile Joined May 2011
United States134 Posts
June 22 2012 21:53 GMT
#452
Just finished watching it. I loved it!

I would have liked to see some interviews with some TL crew that you don't ever see. As well as a walk through of the TL headquarters. The visual effects at the beginning were very well done. Overall a pretty good documentary.

♥ Teamliquid
www.twitch.tv/lavendrgooms
TeslasPigeon
Profile Joined March 2012
464 Posts
June 22 2012 21:53 GMT
#453
On June 23 2012 05:58 [17]Purple wrote:

It is supposed to be a documentary about the players not a movie with a climax.


I disagree, there have been many documentaries that make for amazing movies. A few examples are: Dear Zachary, Hearts of Darkness, or Bus 174. You have to remember that documentaries are suppose to tell a story, Liquid Rising had none. These are fluff pieces that could be intertwined into any SC2 media.

Let's take a recent documentary, Exit Through the Gift Shop. The reason why this documentary is so critically acclaimed is that the story is very engrossing. The rise of an overnight street artist (Thierry Guetta) buying his way into fame and fortune from the misinterpreted advice that he received from his idol (Banksy). This is done through non traditional means of interview various street artists asking their opinions and experiences with Thierry while building upon the overall story, which the audience doesn't know of, until 2/3s of the way into the documentary. There is a high level of emotional attachment to the story and the payoff is worth watching the film.

Documentaries are not a series of interviews, that is a news segment. Documentaries are suppose to convey reality through the means of a story.

Liquid Rising is just a series of very specific interviews dealing about a very distinct subject. While there is nothing wrong with this if it is done in small segments, this type of format fails to draw in the audience after a set amount of time.

A good example of this is during the Huk segment where at 1:14:50 they talk about the EG-Liquid rivalry. As someone who has only been following the scene for a few months, I don't know anything of this. Why should I believe it? Or better, why should I care? There was nothing in the documentary that foreshadow this. Am I suppose to just accept it because some people say so? This medium is video, you're also suppose to show your audience what you want them to feel not explicitly state them through a series of basic interviews. It just wasn't done well.

There could of been so much that could of been done if you want to introduce an emotional element. Like Liquids dominance through the beta and first year of the game, but as SC2 became more developed they slowly slipped out of the spotlight as their players fell from the pillars where they once stood. It could of ended with Liquid players going to Korea to recapture their past glory.

Take Jinro, a player who has an amazing story line and the director/creator completely missed it. Here you have a player that WAS one of the best during the early years. He had the experience and results to prove it. He was the foreigner hope in the GSL. He had amazing games and captivated whole rooms of people. He has the dedication of a true Olympian athlete. Then he slowly started to not make top finishes as the new wave of professionals came. Yet he still practices, he still has the mind of a champion. I mean fuck, he is still in Korea giving everything he has at a game he loves. This is a classic story line of a past champion that is still trying to make it with the new wave of talent. You can go in many different directions. You can make it depressing and talk about how as a once accomplished professional, he should step down now before he further embarrasses himself. Or you could go in a different route and talk about a player who was at the top and still continues to strive for the top, despite of the current wave of the top contenders.

At the end of the film they are talking about how they foresee their futures, as someone who is into the scene I care about these people. I want them to succeed. But as a viewer of the film, I feel like I know none of them and aren't interesting in their storylines because the film failed to provide any. Contrast this with a film like Fistful of Quarters where the documentary sets clears good versus bad between the characters

There was just so much potential to make a great compelling story, but fails so hard. This is depressing to see, on Reddit the creator said he has 700 gigs of footage. That could either be 20-45 hours of footage depending on the quality. If this is the best attempt, a series of interviewers. Then most of the footage is b rolls at various tournaments failing to capture anything of interest. As someone who is trying to make it in new media production, I find it incredibly sad that someone was given the opportunity to do this and squandered it.
Stormy990
Profile Joined September 2011
United States3 Posts
June 22 2012 21:54 GMT
#454
Been looking forward to this! how do we go about getting the posters though?
Miscellany
Profile Joined September 2011
Wales125 Posts
June 22 2012 21:55 GMT
#455
That was amazing! :D team liquid so awesome ~
FusioN.Strider
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany131 Posts
June 22 2012 21:57 GMT
#456
That was amazing, I absolutely loved watching it! =)
Sadly I can't afford donating, but someday I will give back to TeamLiquid for being such an awesome team. ♥
MISTAKE!
eohs
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States677 Posts
June 22 2012 21:58 GMT
#457
Was fucking amazing thank you so much for doing this :D
WELCOME TO THE PARTY
soiii
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany266 Posts
June 22 2012 21:59 GMT
#458
I really enjoyed the documentary from a fan perspective but I also can relate to the some of the critisism. Best sc2 documentary to date? Absolutly yes. Can it be done better next time? For sure.
NiKoJa
Profile Joined June 2012
26 Posts
June 22 2012 21:59 GMT
#459
<3 So well made, thanks for doing this TL.
birchman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden393 Posts
June 22 2012 21:59 GMT
#460
So good.

Of course I'll give you some dollars!
Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback.
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