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Kenny_oro
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany368 Posts
January 13 2012 07:02 GMT
#141
The part on HerO is somehow hard but in some way right. You can discuss why his performance and overall showing at HSC wasn't that well as any of his fans or TL-Fans may have hoped.

On my side of this (huge fan of him) i'm rly sad but not disappointed. Going out of the tournament so early wasn't good, but what bothered me more was the fact that he didn't show up to give some autographs or take some photos. I've been there on friday and saturday and only saw him for seconds as he was leaving the place with the other koreans to take a break from the flat. i took my chance as they retourned just to get the worst photo ever taken by me (thanks to the photographer who didn't know my cam at this moment). so that was my overall experience of meeting my favourite player i didn't even have the chance to let him sign my mousepad because at this moment i just didn't want him to wait outside of the pub for me to grab it from the inside ... who knew that in the end this whould've been my only chance?

Still <3 u Hyeondeok! more play less travel and you'll be Code S Champ.

-> pictures i took on HSC:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.325021600854294.77033.100000393696163&type=3 (i hope you can access them without beeing friend?)

you can take these pics wherever u want (reupload etc.) - just wanted to share

HerO | TaeJa | Sea | Polt | CranK Fighting!
dg991
Profile Joined August 2011
United States11 Posts
January 13 2012 07:19 GMT
#142
gj, sad to hear about Hero. I didn't even know he was there!

HSC was awesome!
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
January 13 2012 07:51 GMT
#143
I listened to the podcast...ClouD is awesome. I no longer have the dream of being a progamer, but I respect those who do.
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
January 13 2012 08:09 GMT
#144
Drunk Stephano can be quite intimidating... in an out of control, "I think he might chew off my shins" kind of way.

Would be pretty great to have more of these types of events, but it really is a very unique and special event.
WallieP
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands425 Posts
January 13 2012 08:09 GMT
#145
Grubby is way to good of player to switch to caster imo! He will be THE top foreigner this year so no reason for him to switch anyway. Also he showed himself before but he just had so much bad luck like being kicked out 2-1 in dreamhack groups and stuf flike that.. and yes, im a fanboy!
i came i saw i conquered
Sareth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1008 Posts
January 13 2012 08:16 GMT
#146
My Winners of the HSC:
MC - obvious
Goody + Cloud - both of them took 2 games off koreans. Goody nearly made it out of his group with 2 top level koreans in it.
Nerchio - best foreign player this HSC and winning EVERY bo3 until running into MC.
Naama playing on ladder with MoMaN casting - most entertaining thing since... don't remember :D
And ofc the viewers.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
January 13 2012 08:29 GMT
#147
On January 13 2012 07:47 TeeTS wrote:
"North America: HSC4 affirmed the following SC Hierarchy: Koreans > Koreans living outside Korea > Everyone Else > … > … > … > North America. Nonetheless, NA is not a loser, because really, who didn't know that already?"

You got me with this one LOL! :D

To Hero's performance: It may be disappointing to those, who just did follow his way since dreamhack, but in my oppinion he got massively overhyped after his thin dreamhack win over Puma. He did perform well there, yes, but he was hyped up to be the best protoss in the world afterwards. And that was way too much. So it's also way too much to call him the only loser of HSC4. Yes he underperformed a little bit. But he took his Ro32 group convincingly and barely lost in a very strong Ro16 group. He might have the claim to reach Ro8 at least in this tournament, but that's not how SC2 works. This game has an affinity to upsets, and those things will happen all the time. (look at Supernova in his recent Code S group).
I would call him a clear loser if he had gone out 0-3 on the first day, but that did not happen. So don't be too harsch on the kid, He is talented, but still needs to improve. He is not on the highest level yet, so he can definately lose to one of the best Zergs in Europe Nerchio and the very very good ZvPer violet. No real shame on that!


There is nothing wrong with HerO as skill, his multi tasking belong to the best in the world also his map awarenes and reaction time is scary to see. It's a mental thing HerO does not look confident, infact i'd say he thinks very little ofhimself as a progamer. Honestly he should learn something from MC in that way, confidence just a blind faith in your self.
Mentalproblems is all that there is in holding HerO back, hope it will get better with more time in the spotlight.
COLT217
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany70 Posts
January 13 2012 08:36 GMT
#148
I really think real will be bigger soon... for him it was a great chance to make him a name and he gained some good feelings of beeing in the round of 8 ... Think he is one of the clear winner...
"[race] is so IMBA! - for [race] fill in the last one, you lost against. But be carefull of mirrormatchups!"
ShotgunMike
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden241 Posts
January 13 2012 08:40 GMT
#149
Nice writeup! Poor Hero though..

Hot_Bid: "B10" - ThorZain: "BINGO" - Naniwa: "Apologize! ¤%#¤#&¤% Terran IMBA"
xerathul
Profile Joined March 2011
Turkey12 Posts
January 13 2012 09:04 GMT
#150
ClouD is ok as a caster but he should just shut up and let the other casters talk once in a while

Also Ret is in Destiny's thumb.
Substandard
Profile Joined October 2008
Italy270 Posts
January 13 2012 09:11 GMT
#151
Imho JYP is definitly among the winners of the tourney. He introduced himself as an EG member by showing two of the best series in the tournament ( against MC and Dimaga) only loosing to MC and taking third place and a good chunk of price money.

Definitly a very good showing as far as I'm concerned.
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
January 13 2012 09:27 GMT
#152
I would add Thorzain to the losers. I mean he lost to Incontrol :/

Also he seems to be on some kind of mental slump lately.
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
January 13 2012 09:35 GMT
#153
Liked the three last words the most
There can only be one Geisterkarle
FallenEncore
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom64 Posts
January 13 2012 09:39 GMT
#154
bling and incontrol should be on the winners page! it was awesome...! Trapoline!
kugel
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany116 Posts
January 13 2012 09:39 GMT
#155
HOWEVER, the nation had to suffer the shame of having a Barcraft broadcast from an Irish

It isnt as bad as you might think. I can say that we love bars / pubs as long as there is a good atmosphere / drinks :D
RolleMcKnolle
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany1054 Posts
January 13 2012 09:47 GMT
#156
Why the Incontrol hate? He did great over the weekend. There were quite a lot of matches I just watched because he was casting...
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
January 13 2012 10:31 GMT
#157
On January 13 2012 11:25 Loophole wrote:
Nice read. I found the Dimaga cheering thing a little awkward and forced, since someone ran in behind him and was like, look it's Dimaga!!!


You were not in that room during the JYP game, so you have no idea.
www.intelextrememasters.com
Tumor
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria192 Posts
January 13 2012 10:41 GMT
#158
nice read, i realy enjoyed HSC but some casters failed, missed attacks and stuff happening. like you sayed, give grubby a pro caster spot he is amazing!!!!!!!!
stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
January 13 2012 10:46 GMT
#159
The podcast with ClouD was great – only honest and insightful answers from him.
phanto
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden708 Posts
January 13 2012 11:13 GMT
#160
agree with everything except cloud. he was apalling on the mic.
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