• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:23
CEST 07:23
KST 14:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8
Community News
SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup3StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)64Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3BSL Season 2313
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Awesome/Confusing SC2 BM SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Grand Finals Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) SC2 INu's Battles#21 [ 3-Days tournament ]
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Bot on ladder JaeDong's ASL S22 Ro. 8 Review Sagi.gg Launcher Released an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro8 Day 4 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 3 [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9677 users

HomeStory Cup IV - Smaller is Better - Page 10

Forum Index > News
261 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 14 Next All
jaydee81
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany119 Posts
January 13 2012 16:01 GMT
#181
Great read, as always!
Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
January 13 2012 16:05 GMT
#182
WaxAngel that's uncalled for. Firstly, Destiny was clearly on tilt after losing that 3rd game to grubby (you know, the one where he was miles ahead and then was harassed to death in a grueling 25+ minute game?). Secondly, iNcontroL beat ThorZaIN, which, granted, may have been due to ThorZaINs tilt after his two previous losses.

What I'm actually disappointed about, though, is your classification of servers. Reinforcing stereotypes is the best way to ensure their accuracy in the future. By reinforcing the stereotype that NA< all other servers, you have taken motivation away from those North American players who are good, but don't invest enough time in StarCraft to become professional. There could be high-master / GM NA players who have enormous potential who don't pursue a career in StarCraft because of the shitty things people say about the NA server.

Great writeup otherwise. I didn't know whatthefat was a TL writer. Congrats! I love your work :D
Treating eSports as a social science since 2011; Credo: "The system is never wrong"-- Day9 Daily #400 Part 3
siNwOw
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany9 Posts
January 13 2012 16:08 GMT
#183
nice read and it's so true!
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
January 13 2012 16:21 GMT
#184
Great writeup.

I like how if you click on Ret's "I love liquipedia" photo it shows an enlarged picture of Ret, and if you click on Destiny's photo it also shows a picture of Ret. Ulterior motives?
Logic is Overrated
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 13 2012 16:24 GMT
#185
Remember,

The players are the true stars.

Other personalities are the icing on the cake.
gardinho
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany368 Posts
January 13 2012 16:50 GMT
#186
handsome boy moviestar!
Amoment
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany175 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 16:54:09
January 13 2012 16:53 GMT
#187
I...
can´t agree more
awesome read
6000 MMR/competitive Dota 2 player. SC2 LOTV Grandmaster - WoL Top 75 EU, 150 World. YouTuber.
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
January 13 2012 17:04 GMT
#188
you don't have to agree with Wax, but you should appreciate him calling it like he sees it, and not being PC about it.

great article guys!
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
perser84
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany399 Posts
January 13 2012 17:06 GMT
#189
well done
DKaidon
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland23 Posts
January 13 2012 17:08 GMT
#190
Expected something more about Dimaga and anything about Nerchio, both did great IMO
Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
January 13 2012 17:08 GMT
#191
On January 14 2012 02:04 CTStalker wrote:
you don't have to agree with Wax, but you should appreciate him calling it like he sees it, and not being PC about it.

great article guys!


It just seemed rude to me. It didn't seem like he was calling it like he was seeing it. He lumped all NA players together-- personally I think that calls for some political correctness.
Treating eSports as a social science since 2011; Credo: "The system is never wrong"-- Day9 Daily #400 Part 3
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 17:15:37
January 13 2012 17:15 GMT
#192
wrong thread
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
January 13 2012 17:17 GMT
#193
On January 14 2012 02:08 mbr2321 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 02:04 CTStalker wrote:
you don't have to agree with Wax, but you should appreciate him calling it like he sees it, and not being PC about it.

great article guys!


It just seemed rude to me. It didn't seem like he was calling it like he was seeing it. He lumped all NA players together-- personally I think that calls for some political correctness.


Are you seriously trying to say NA is not the weakest server? It has been like that for a long time and every NA pro will agree with it
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
January 13 2012 17:19 GMT
#194
On January 14 2012 02:17 Lyter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 02:08 mbr2321 wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:04 CTStalker wrote:
you don't have to agree with Wax, but you should appreciate him calling it like he sees it, and not being PC about it.

great article guys!


It just seemed rude to me. It didn't seem like he was calling it like he was seeing it. He lumped all NA players together-- personally I think that calls for some political correctness.


Are you seriously trying to say NA is not the weakest server? It has been like that for a long time and every NA pro will agree with it


pleeeeeaaaaaasssseeee stop.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
MogSkynet
Profile Joined May 2011
25 Posts
January 13 2012 17:32 GMT
#195
I love HSC so much! MoMan and Hasuobs were my favorites, I could listen to either of them cast pretty much all day and be happy. Thanks to Take and his team for putting on such an awesome event!
naVaz
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany38 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 18:14:03
January 13 2012 18:06 GMT
#196
only dumb people laugh at incontrols humor. like making fun of the british accent of his cocaster over and over. me personally thinks he shouldnt be at HSC. he is spreading subliminal hate and thinks its funny. im not saying he is doing it on purpose, it just the way he is - very ego-centered. not very appropriate for such a nice and positiv turnament.

It just seemed rude to me. It didn't seem like he was calling it like he was seeing it. He lumped all NA players together-- personally I think that calls for some political correctness.


political correctness? i lol'd. is there such a thing?



great writeup tho. i REALLY enjoyed HSC! especially MC and MKP casting and those insane Dimaga games.

[b]User was warned for this post
naVaz
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany38 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 18:09:53
January 13 2012 18:08 GMT
#197
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
January 13 2012 18:12 GMT
#198
Incontrol and Grubby's casting is seriously good. I'm not surprised considering their confidence and success irl, but it's still nice to have these kind of dual-role professionals around. Almost everyone did great casting, but those two stood out for me.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
January 13 2012 18:29 GMT
#199
Very good tournament and very funny article !
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
January 13 2012 18:58 GMT
#200
On January 14 2012 02:08 mbr2321 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 02:04 CTStalker wrote:
you don't have to agree with Wax, but you should appreciate him calling it like he sees it, and not being PC about it.

great article guys!


It just seemed rude to me. It didn't seem like he was calling it like he was seeing it. He lumped all NA players together-- personally I think that calls for some political correctness.

I always get a very passive-aggressive vibe from many of TL's BW writers...

That said he was obviously just voicing what he believed in, in all cases, so I'm not too offended.

Poor HerO lol, he needs to hurry up and realize Korean shyness will only make him fade into obscurity in global esports.
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 14 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 37m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft744
PiGStarcraft218
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 385
Stork 206
ggaemo 142
Leta 121
PianO 61
Hyuk 32
Bale 16
yabsab 15
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm200
League of Legends
JimRising 697
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox542
Mew2King59
Westballz46
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor635
Other Games
summit1g8851
Coldzera 830
C9.Mang0297
Sick126
RuFF_SC2120
ViBE82
ArmadaUGS42
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick692
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream128
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 101
• Letter1410
• Adnapsc2 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2196
League of Legends
• Lourlo1402
• Stunt393
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
4h 37m
Online Event
5h 37m
FEL
10h 37m
AI Arena Tournament
11h 37m
BSL: Ladder Tournament
13h 37m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 4h
INu's Battles
1d 6h
herO vs Classic
Percival vs Rogue
BSL Open Qualifier
1d 13h
BSL Open Qualifier
1d 13h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Rush vs Light
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Soma vs Soulkey
INu's Battles
3 days
SHIN vs Cure
ByuN vs Zoun
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
The PondCast
5 days
INu's Battles
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-02
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Calamity Invitational

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Copium Cup
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.