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[GSL] Code S S1 - RO32, End of Week One

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January 12th, 2012 18:17 GMT
  • GSL on Liquipedia
  • Group D in Review

Group D in Review


By: WaxAngel



Group D: (P)FXO_z, (Z)ST_Curious, (T)ST_Bomber, (P)oGsInCa


Match One: Oz vs Curious

Game One –

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1.5/5

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Daybreak

Oz performed an unorthodox Forge + 2 Gateway FE to apply a little Zealot pressure, but Curious responded well by playing slightly conservatively off two bases, only taking his third after he felt he was safe. However, he didn't read Oz's follow-up correctly, and was forced to sacrifice that base when Oz came knocking with a mass Gateway, +2 Blink Stalker timing. Oz pushed into Curious' natural where a fierce battle ensued, and Curious was only able to fend off the attack after losing a considerable amount of Drones. In the meanwhile, Oz kept building troops back at home while taking a third base.

Realizing that he would be unable to keep up with the Protoss economy, Curious rallied all his troops for an attack into Oz's third. However, the Protoss army was just too big, and Curious GG'd out after his attack was repelled.

Winner: Oz
Game Two –
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Bel'shir Beach

Oz once again opened with the 2 Gate FE, but decided not to pressure too hard and transitioned into a relatively quick third base instead. Curious was glad to go along with the plan, taking his own third while plopping down a Hatchery at a fourth base as well.

Before either side had fully realized their economic potential, they moved out with mid-size armies to apply pressure. The two forces ended up missing each other, and an oddly small-army base trade situation occurred.

Oz had a bit more firepower, and after it was all said and done, he was left with a slightly better economy and standing army with both players reduced to one mining base. Oz also retained a much bigger portion of his infrastructure, allowing him to pump out troops and re-take his bases more quickly. Curious fought until the end, but he just couldn't win after such an imbalanced reset.

Winner: Oz


Game Three –
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Oz won 2-0.


Match Two: Bomber vs Inca

Game One –
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2/5

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Cloud Kingdom

Bomber decided to FE and play almost totally blind, which played pretty well into Inca's plan to double expand, tech straight up to Templars, and go double Forge upgrades off a skeleton army. For all his macro prowess, Bomber wasn't able to fight a Protoss who had been allowed to do literally everything he wanted without any interference. By virtue of his flawless production and good battle micro, Bomber stayed alive for far longer than he should have, but he inevitably fell to the infinitely regenerating deathball.

Winner: Inca


Game Two –
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Daybreak

After safe FEs for both players, the cloak tactics inevitably came. Bomber made a late cloaked Banshee which did a little bit of damage, but was woefully unprepared for a predictable DT drop from Inca. While he caused chaos in Bomber's base, Inca took a quick third and teched up to Colossi as well.

Bomber tried to counter-attack after cleaning up the DTs, but Inca's trademark units had bought him enough time to secure his bases and get out enough troops defend himself. With his opponent on three bases and both Colossus and Templar tech, Bomber was in serious catch-up mode. In the end, the Protoss death-ball proved to be just too strong for the second time.

Winner: Inca


Game Three –
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Inca won 2-0.


Winner's Match:

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Oz vs Inca


Game One –
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Antiga Shipyard

Oz opened with a three Stalker, two Sentry FE, while Inca went for four Gate blink + Observer off one base. Interestingly enough, Oz decided the best defense for his risky build was a good offense. He timed an attack with an Immortal and a handful of Gateway units before Inca's blink upgrade completed, which actually forced Inca back to his main to defend. At the same time, Oz also used a Pylon and Observer to warp in a few Zealots into Inca's main, damaging his economy and further delaying his attack. Though he lost a decent amount of troops with these tactics, it was actually worth it for Oz as it bought him a lot of time for his economy to kick in so he could build even more troops in the future.

With Inca already hard pressed to win with his one base all-in, Oz even managed to snipe off the Observer Inca could have used to blink up walls and perform harassment with. This left only the front door for Inca to go through, and that route was barricaded by several Immortals. Inca's attack failed as expected, and Oz picked up the first game.

Winner: Oz


Game Two –
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1/5

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Crossfire

Oz tried to beat Inca's four gate with a three gate, but let a Probe build Pylons in his main.

Winner: Inca


Game Three –
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2.5/5

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Dual Sight

Inca went for a proxy two-Gate, but Oz scouted it just in time to catch up with a slightly later two-Gate build. There were a series of really intense Zealot vs Zealot micro battles that can't really be described in words, except to say that Oz was just slightly better and ended up winning the game.

Winner: Oz


Loser's Match:

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Bomber vs Curious


Game One –
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Antiga Shipyard

Besides some completely non-committal Roach+Speedling pressure from Curious, the game progressed very smoothly to the macro up and fight with 200/200 armies phase. Bomber was able to max-out before Curious could hit Hive tech, forcing at least one fight of pure Muta-Bane-Ling against Marine-Tank-Medivac.

Despite having the entire Terran army on creep, Curious couldn't get off a good flank at all, and was thoroughly thrashed by Bomber's forces. Bomber just reinforced his army and rolled in for the win (it didn't help that Curious had rallied all his Overlords to a position where Marines could easily pick them off).

Winner: Bomber


Game Two –
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2/5

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Bel'shir Beach

It was an ugly slugfest of a game, defined by Bomber macroing and attacking while Curious reacted with backdoors attacks or head-on fights that achieved mixed success. The results for Curious were usually just "okay," as he was unable to decisively beat Bomber in battles or deal game-swinging amounts of damage with his backdoor attacks. On one occasion he back-doored when he could have just killed the Terran army, and sacrificed a three to two base advantage for no real reason. Still, Curious still accumulated more advantages than disadvantages over time, and was able to overpower Bomber after repeated battles.

Winner: Curious


Game Three –
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Daybreak

Curious caught Bomber trying to build a proxy Barracks, so he thwarted it by simply killing the building SCV with Drones. When Bomber sent more SCVs to try and complete the Barracks, Curious killed those, too. Then he sent some Zerglings to a poorly defended Terran main and killed some SCVs and Marines.

That put Bomber massively down just five minutes into the game, and there was no chance of coming back. Curious finished him off with a Baneling attack and progressed to the final series of the day.

Winner: Curious


Final Match:

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Inca vs Curious


Game One –
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Crossfire

It was a brutal ZvP evisceration that we expected from Curious, though he had not delivered one in the GSL for a long time. Once Inca dared to be inattentive enough to allow the first batch of Zerglings into his main, his torment never ended. Curious abused the mobility of Mutalisks and Zerglings in the most frustrating of ways, and picked Inca apart little by little until there was nothing left.

Winner: Curious


Game Two –
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Entombed Valley

Game two was a general repeat of game one, with Curious making Inca look silly with Mutalisks. However, with Inca on the ropes, Curious got sloppy and lost a giant chunk of his Mutalisks army to Stalkers and storm. Curious spent two minutes pretending he was in danger before he popped out a ton of Ultralisks to finish the game.

Winner: Curious


Game Three –
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Curious won 2-0.



Bombs Away

There a was a brief window of time last year, around May or June, where people thought Bomber might be the best Terran player in the world. This was just before the Macro-Terran wave started to dominate the GSL, back when Mvp was still the only Terran player who had achieved success based on being greedy and making way more stuff than his opponent. Right as Mvp got knocked down to Code A (the only blemish on a sparkling resume), a much hyped Bomber managed to qualify for the first time, riding in on a giant wave of online notoriety.

As the two players rampaged through their respect sides of the bracket with ease, the comparisons became inevitable. Just like Mvp, Bomber strolled to victories where he made more stuff than his opponent, microed that stuff better, and just made himself look totally invincible on the whole. As if it were fated, the two players ended up facing each other in the finals, one of the first "old versus new" moments in Starcraft II's young history. Mvp did what he could to protect his pride, but Bomber looked like the better player on that day. He won 4-2, booked a spot in Code S, and became the figurehead of the new generation.

Now, Bomber is back in the same place, at the bottom rung of Code A, trying to prove himself. The latter two words have been all too familiar to Bomber over the last seven months.

On the tail of that Code A victory, we wanted him to prove that he could be a champion. You might say that's an absurd thing to expect from a player, but those who are blessed with incredible talent are inevitably cursed with incredible expectations. Bomber truly looked that good in his prime.

The first of his troubles seemed like a speed bump. He went out 0 – 2 to Nestea in the Super Tournament, but it was no great shame to lose to the greatest Zerg player in the world. However, his next two tournament eliminations were road blocks. Bomber was eliminated from DreamHack Summer 2010 by Moon, a Warcraft III legend but a Code S nobody. Not long after, he dropped from his very first Code S tournament after suffering a 2 – 3 loss to ZeNEXByun – a shock loss after he had gone up 2 – 0 in the series with some of the best TvT play ever seen in the GSL.

Tumultuous days followed. There was a three day stretch where he demolished everyone at MLG Raleigh to claim the championship. There was also an elimination from MLG Orlando at the hands of IdrA and SaSe, and early eliminations from the next two Code S tournaments. At the same time, the greedy, mass-production style of Terran became a staple of the race, capable of being emulated by every competent player.

With the advent of the new Code S system, Bomber was found himself busy proving that he belonged in Code S, much less proving that he was a title contender. Bomber was not a favorite against DongRaeGu or Gumiho in his Code S November group, and it showed in his quick 0 – 2 elimination. He dominated his Up-Down group to earn another shot at Code S, only falter once more.

For a player who carried so many hopes, time might be running out. Names like ForGG, Taeja and Happy have appeared to make Bomber's once transcendent mechanics look much more commonplace. Players who were once behind Bomber, such as Leenock, DongRaeGu, and MMA are now stars who headline the GSL. For a player who needed to make up lost ground, falling even more behind was a painful disappointment.














Art by Fishuu



Writer: Waxangel.
Graphics and Art: Meko and Pony Tales (disciple and Lip the Pencilboy).
Editor: WaxAngel
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HappyVlane
Profile Joined December 2011
Austria21 Posts
January 12 2012 18:25 GMT
#2
It's really sad that my favorite player performs so poorly now.

Enjoyed the write-up greatly.
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
January 12 2012 18:26 GMT
#3
Good stuff from Oz. Thanks for the write-up, I fell asleep before the games came on.
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Rhedsa
Profile Joined July 2011
Costa Rica594 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 18:27:03
January 12 2012 18:26 GMT
#4
Yeah, my expectations for Bomber were also high before this day... but seems like he struggles in the Code S booth.
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
January 12 2012 18:27 GMT
#5
Pretty sad to see how bomber has fallen from our once-lofty expectations. On the other hand, I was really pleased with Oz being able to show that perhaps his run last season was not a fluke.
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RoninShogun
Profile Joined November 2010
United States315 Posts
January 12 2012 18:27 GMT
#6
I was really happy that Oz and Curious got through, despite having to play each other first, as Bomber has seemed so disappointing ever since his Code A victory and InCa is... anyways solid week of write ups thanks !
Artosis: Yeah I was gonna probe rush but someone did that yesterday
kittensrcute
Profile Joined August 2010
United States617 Posts
January 12 2012 18:27 GMT
#7
Nice quick summary, Bomber played surprisingly poor (imo) in his games against Inca, and Inca showed that his ZvP hasn't really improved at all =\
Ripebananaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada129 Posts
January 12 2012 18:29 GMT
#8
Too bad for Bomber
Gotuso
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands733 Posts
January 12 2012 18:32 GMT
#9
Great write-up about Bomber, really gave me a new insight into a player I've heard a lot about and just made me an even bigger fan. From now on I'll be rooting even more for Bomber to win Code A/S; Bomber-fighting!
zdrAg
Profile Joined December 2011
South Africa5 Posts
January 12 2012 18:34 GMT
#10
Well that comes to show that SC2 is still a new game, nobody gan stay on top for even a glimpse of a second...
Ragequit only if the other player made you angry.
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
January 12 2012 18:39 GMT
#11
I think Happy will do very well in this GSL. I just have this feeling. Can't wait to see next week!
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Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
January 12 2012 18:49 GMT
#12
Poor bomber .
ComebackKid
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada105 Posts
January 12 2012 18:50 GMT
#13
Looks like the Korean Terrans aren't doing so well this season... maybe the Z's and P's have a better shot at a tittle!
Thats it, back to Winnipeg!
devPLEASE
Profile Joined March 2011
Kenya605 Posts
January 12 2012 18:56 GMT
#14
I hope Bomber doesn't fade away like JulyZerg might /:
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ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
January 12 2012 19:05 GMT
#15
On January 13 2012 03:50 ComebackKid wrote:
Looks like the Korean Terrans aren't doing so well this season... maybe the Z's and P's have a better shot at a tittle!


What. Out of the 8 spots in the round of 16 so far, 5 are terran.

Thats pretty damn well. Fact checks, fact checks.
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realisticcc
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland4 Posts
January 12 2012 19:05 GMT
#16
I was hoping Bomber could conjure up some wins, but he didn't really.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
January 12 2012 19:08 GMT
#17
Its a shame to see Bomber fall apart in the Code S intense situation like he has done so often. I hope he prepares well for Code A, it is not an easy road and I would like to see him back fighting in Code S.
Schmank1
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada6 Posts
January 12 2012 19:10 GMT
#18
Another excellent write up! I am also sad to see bomber preform so poorly... better luck next time! Bomber Fighting!
Tamburlaine
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada288 Posts
January 12 2012 19:13 GMT
#19
Jesus Christ.

Every single time, one prediction right, one prediction wrong.

Every. Single. Time.
I like things.
BaconofWar
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States369 Posts
January 12 2012 19:20 GMT
#20
Man. This week has RAVAGED my liquibets win percentage. IdrA, Leenock, Bomber, and Sen(in hindsight, that wasn't a good choice)
Well, C9 is the best right now
IMStyle
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada52 Posts
January 12 2012 19:22 GMT
#21
bomber looked like he was in top forme last week when he beat nestea in team Ksl
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
January 12 2012 19:25 GMT
#22
Oz wasnt better than Inca on the 2gate vs 2gate, as he said in the interview he didn't scout games 1 and 2 and then scouted game 3. idk his reasoning for this decision but it won him the game. Inca almost came out of an unwinnable position (having your proxy 2gate scouted) with WAY better micro Oz was just insurmountably far ahead.

This was easily the worst morning (EST) of GSL Code S in a long long time
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EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
January 12 2012 19:33 GMT
#23
Oz mah man!
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Demorase
Profile Joined January 2012
136 Posts
January 12 2012 19:49 GMT
#24
So far this has been the best GSL season imo, even though it's only been a week. Group matches are much more enjoyable to me now that they are Bo3 instead of Bo1.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
January 12 2012 19:49 GMT
#25
On January 13 2012 04:20 BaconofWar wrote:
Man. This week has RAVAGED my liquibets win percentage. IdrA, Leenock, Bomber, and Sen(in hindsight, that wasn't a good choice)


Sen was a very silly choice, and Idra was pretty silly as well.

Never bet for foreigners - that way you can be happy when they win and at least slightly happy when they lose.
badeanden
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway56 Posts
January 12 2012 19:54 GMT
#26
At the moment I can think of no foreign zerg player who could get to the round of 16 in GSL. Stephano is not that good anymore, Idra and Sen just lost, Kas is not good enough, Sase can't perform in tournaments, Naniwa is kicked out of code S. There is not a single foreign player i would bet my money on in the first group play of GSL
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kYem
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom412 Posts
January 12 2012 20:04 GMT
#27
Happy might be close to bomber, but for example ForGG way lower and what Taeja is doing here anyway ?
Hell
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38222 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 20:09:58
January 12 2012 20:07 GMT
#28
Not long after, he dropped from his very first Code S tournament after suffering a 2 – 3 loss to ZeNEXByun – a shock loss after he had gone up 2 – 0 in the series with some of the best TvT play ever seen in the GSL.


You could offer the context of that being the GSL 1/4 finals there =p

I wonder what would have happened by today if Bomber hadn't let that series slip.

Was a crazy week for sure

On January 13 2012 04:05 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 03:50 ComebackKid wrote:
Looks like the Korean Terrans aren't doing so well this season... maybe the Z's and P's have a better shot at a tittle!


What. Out of the 8 spots in the round of 16 so far, 5 are terran.

Thats pretty damn well. Fact checks, fact checks.


"only" 4. It's still pretty much 50/50 on race advancement so far, though group A did have 3 terrans and Sen so 2 Terrans advancing there was kind of a given.

(toss being 2 for 3 and Zerg being 2 for 6)
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
January 12 2012 20:23 GMT
#29
Lol only 1 game rated higher than 3 stars last night. It's funny how the epicness of SC2 games goes down the gutter once protoss starts playing. Just goes to show there's more to game design than just balance.

As a huge Bomber fan, it pains me to say that Bomber may have missed his window of opportunity to make it big in the GSL. Back in his heyday Bomber and Mvp were the only terrans who really knew how to macro, and it allowed him to get away with his reckless and cost inefficient micro. Nowadays almost everyone in the GSL can macro, and for those who can't they just beat Bomber in low econ micro wars. To make things worse Bomber's decision making has gone down the toilet. Given Startale's less than stellar reputation in terms of training rigor, I suspect this may be a coaching issue as well. In a way Bomber is sort of like the SC2 terran version of BeSt, a macro fiend who scared the shit out of everyone when he first arrived but never lived up to the hype.
Nethermind
Profile Joined April 2011
New Zealand445 Posts
January 12 2012 20:31 GMT
#30
I am loving this seasons GSL write-ups. Great job to all the team involved.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 12 2012 20:39 GMT
#31
Does Bomber suffer from nerves or something? He seems to choke a lot, such as losing 3 straight games to Byun after being up 2-0, or losing 4 straight games to MVP in the MLG Global Invitational after being up 3-0 in a Bo7.
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Lizarb
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark307 Posts
January 12 2012 20:41 GMT
#32
Waxangel, your predictions might not always be correct.

But...

DAMN these write ups are so awesome. All down to the fake score on the 3rd game's that didn't happen.

/hat off
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wristuzi
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1168 Posts
January 12 2012 20:43 GMT
#33
I've always found Bomber SO over-hyped. Yes his playstyle is cool and was ground-breaking when he was an upcoming player, but his results just aren't enough for him to be considered very good, let alone one of the top terrans in the world. I'm really glad Oz and Curious got through, I hope they do well in the rest of the tournament.
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wristuzi
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1168 Posts
January 12 2012 20:44 GMT
#34
On January 13 2012 05:23 red4ce wrote:
Lol only 1 game rated higher than 3 stars last night. It's funny how the epicness of SC2 games goes down the gutter once protoss starts playing. Just goes to show there's more to game design than just balance.


Personally I think Inca vs Oz game 3 was worth more than 2.5, but maybe that's just because I was watching it at the time
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Dumboprime
Profile Joined March 2011
985 Posts
January 12 2012 20:46 GMT
#35
great write-up!
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 12 2012 21:15 GMT
#36
On January 13 2012 05:23 red4ce wrote:
Lol only 1 game rated higher than 3 stars last night. It's funny how the epicness of SC2 games goes down the gutter once protoss starts playing. Just goes to show there's more to game design than just balance.

As a huge Bomber fan, it pains me to say that Bomber may have missed his window of opportunity to make it big in the GSL. Back in his heyday Bomber and Mvp were the only terrans who really knew how to macro, and it allowed him to get away with his reckless and cost inefficient micro. Nowadays almost everyone in the GSL can macro, and for those who can't they just beat Bomber in low econ micro wars. To make things worse Bomber's decision making has gone down the toilet. Given Startale's less than stellar reputation in terms of training rigor, I suspect this may be a coaching issue as well. In a way Bomber is sort of like the SC2 terran version of BeSt, a macro fiend who scared the shit out of everyone when he first arrived but never lived up to the hype.


So he'll have a resurgence in...three years?
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Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
January 12 2012 21:23 GMT
#37
Is this article bugged or something? Can't see the part with the predictions and the link to above just doesn't do anything.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33369 Posts
January 12 2012 21:30 GMT
#38
On January 13 2012 06:23 Serinox wrote:
Is this article bugged or something? Can't see the part with the predictions and the link to above just doesn't do anything.


whooops forgot about that -__-;
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Shingebiss
Profile Joined March 2011
United States17 Posts
January 12 2012 21:30 GMT
#39
Bomber really bombed it.
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Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
January 12 2012 21:32 GMT
#40
On January 13 2012 03:34 zdrAg wrote:
Well that comes to show that SC2 is still a new game, nobody gan stay on top for even a glimpse of a second...

MVP, Nestea?
HereBeDragons
Profile Joined May 2011
1429 Posts
January 12 2012 21:46 GMT
#41
On January 13 2012 05:04 kYem wrote:
Happy might be close to bomber, but for example ForGG way lower and what Taeja is doing here anyway ?


Allow liquipedia to enlighten you on why Taeja is up-and-coming.

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snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
January 12 2012 21:57 GMT
#42
I must say I am surprised to see bomber do so badly...
My religion is Starcraft
Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
January 12 2012 22:05 GMT
#43
so... if i want to find out what happened i have to click the show spoiler button 18 times? please, tell me more
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33369 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 22:39:09
January 12 2012 22:38 GMT
#44
On January 13 2012 07:05 Manimal_pro wrote:
so... if i want to find out what happened i have to click the show spoiler button 18 times? please, tell me more


when I was choosing what part of the readership to please, I specifically chose NOT to please you
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TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
January 12 2012 23:48 GMT
#45
Wish Inca would do better.
Starcraft is a lifestyle.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
January 13 2012 00:24 GMT
#46
I just don't understand what's with Bomber. He's such a strong player, but seems to be in a huge slump. I expect him to be a regular Code S semifinalist at least, but he keeps getting knocked out so early >_<
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
January 13 2012 03:22 GMT
#47
On January 13 2012 04:20 BaconofWar wrote:
Man. This week has RAVAGED my liquibets win percentage. IdrA, Leenock, Bomber, and Sen(in hindsight, that wasn't a good choice)


Please. Everyone and their mothers knew Idra and Sen were going to get smashed. I knew Leenock wasn't going to make it because he was last season's runner up. So I'll give you Bomber, who I also voted for ^^
Fourn
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Greece227 Posts
January 13 2012 03:39 GMT
#48
Isn't tonight's games the end of week one?
A man chooses, a slave obeys
diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 03:47:48
January 13 2012 03:46 GMT
#49
On January 13 2012 12:22 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 04:20 BaconofWar wrote:
Man. This week has RAVAGED my liquibets win percentage. IdrA, Leenock, Bomber, and Sen(in hindsight, that wasn't a good choice)


Please. Everyone and their mothers knew Idra and Sen were going to get smashed. I knew Leenock wasn't going to make it because he was last season's runner up. So I'll give you Bomber, who I also voted for ^^


After Nestea scraping out a win against Idra at MLG I don't think it's unthinkable for Idra to pull out wins in his ZvZs. But apparently Nestea decided to stop being mortal so Idra was out of luck.

On January 13 2012 12:39 Fourn wrote:
Isn't tonight's games the end of week one?


Next match is Monday.
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
January 13 2012 03:59 GMT
#50
On January 13 2012 05:43 wristuzi wrote:
I've always found Bomber SO over-hyped. Yes his playstyle is cool and was ground-breaking when he was an upcoming player, but his results just aren't enough for him to be considered very good, let alone one of the top terrans in the world. I'm really glad Oz and Curious got through, I hope they do well in the rest of the tournament.


Bomber definitely wasn't overhyped. He smashed everyone in his first Code A and outplayed MVP in a TvT best of 7 before going off the Raleigh, NC and winning an MLG. He had the results back then he's just never push on from there. Even now though he's still an insanely good player, he would dominate foreign tournaments like there's no tomorrow but it's tough at the top of Code S. So many good players (and Inca) so it's easy to lose one series and you're out.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
LiamTheZerg
Profile Joined March 2011
United States523 Posts
January 13 2012 07:00 GMT
#51
On January 13 2012 03:25 HappyVlane wrote:
It's really sad that my favorite player performs so poorly now.

Enjoyed the write-up greatly.


;(

my favorite terran. I love DRG but also want bomber to do so well
Jjakji | Sage | Seal | Shuttle | DongRaeGu | oGsTheSTC | Bomber | Curious | Oz
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
January 13 2012 07:00 GMT
#52
On January 13 2012 07:05 Manimal_pro wrote:
so... if i want to find out what happened i have to click the show spoiler button 18 times? please, tell me more


Not that hard. Plus it eliminates clutter when you are finished reading the segment.
Someone call down the Thunder?
viOLetFanClub
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Korea (South)390 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 12:50:20
January 13 2012 12:47 GMT
#53
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PolygonLove
Profile Joined March 2011
United States7 Posts
January 13 2012 13:45 GMT
#54
This reminds me of when MY favorite player started to fall... I wish fruitdealer would get good again.
"Give a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set fire to him, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
Gengar
Profile Joined March 2011
United States13 Posts
January 13 2012 16:09 GMT
#55
Am I the only one who is dissapointed with waxangel? These writeups should be renamed "waxangel trolls Gsl: part x". He never speaks positively about any games (every "rating" has been under 3) and for most games its a 2 sentence summary trolling the losers, followed by a huge rant of how someone who should be good sucks to him. These writeups are dissapointing, discouraging, and hardly worth reading. Leave your crybaby opinions out plz waxangel, I'm sure your just doing it to take the light off of you not being able to predict a group right.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33369 Posts
January 13 2012 19:46 GMT
#56
On January 14 2012 01:09 Gengar wrote:
Am I the only one who is dissapointed with waxangel? These writeups should be renamed "waxangel trolls Gsl: part x". He never speaks positively about any games (every "rating" has been under 3) and for most games its a 2 sentence summary trolling the losers, followed by a huge rant of how someone who should be good sucks to him. These writeups are dissapointing, discouraging, and hardly worth reading. Leave your crybaby opinions out plz waxangel, I'm sure your just doing it to take the light off of you not being able to predict a group right.


You sound like an Oz fan! Why so grumpy, your player won :O
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ClydeFrogSC2
Profile Joined December 2011
United States29 Posts
January 13 2012 20:59 GMT
#57
These write ups are always so good, Stayed up till 6:00 EST to catch these T_T
kimchikid
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden162 Posts
January 13 2012 22:39 GMT
#58
On January 13 2012 04:13 Tamburlaine wrote:
Jesus Christ.

Every single time, one prediction right, one prediction wrong.

Every. Single. Time.


Well its 50% chance to suceed with that for every group, even if you are just gessing. If you know a little about the players, chances should be even higher.
David451
Profile Joined October 2010
United States491 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 08:53:05
January 14 2012 08:46 GMT
#59
I'm really sad to see Bomber fall so far, even though I predicted he would fall this week. I think Bomber needs a better coach... he macros and micros like a boss but sometimes he makes some really chobo mistakes. For example, not scouting against Inca, a midgame push would've crushed Inca both games. It's frustrating. I think he has the talent to be a GSL champion someday, but he needs to stop making game-losing critical mistakes. Mistakes that seem way below his skill level.

He's like the anti-Inca. Inca was an all-around bad player who seemed to always win somehow. Bomber is an all-around great player who always seems to find a way to lose.
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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
January 14 2012 13:13 GMT
#60
So glad to see Curious bring out the beast that I know he is. I hope he makes it far in Code S this time around!
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
RaE21
Profile Joined September 2010
United States260 Posts
January 14 2012 19:47 GMT
#61
On January 13 2012 12:59 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 05:43 wristuzi wrote:
I've always found Bomber SO over-hyped. Yes his playstyle is cool and was ground-breaking when he was an upcoming player, but his results just aren't enough for him to be considered very good, let alone one of the top terrans in the world. I'm really glad Oz and Curious got through, I hope they do well in the rest of the tournament.


Bomber definitely wasn't overhyped. He smashed everyone in his first Code A and outplayed MVP in a TvT best of 7 before going off the Raleigh, NC and winning an MLG. He had the results back then he's just never push on from there. Even now though he's still an insanely good player, he would dominate foreign tournaments like there's no tomorrow but it's tough at the top of Code S. So many good players (and Inca) so it's easy to lose one series and you're out.


This. Bomber is a great player with amazing mechanics and a lot of potential to succeed, but as was mentioned its difficult when playing S class players like MMA, Leenock, MVP, etc. While your micro and macro can be phenomenal, nerves is a huge factor in games and maybe Bomber has trouble with nerves on the big stage?
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
January 15 2012 02:31 GMT
#62
On January 13 2012 04:05 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 03:50 ComebackKid wrote:
Looks like the Korean Terrans aren't doing so well this season... maybe the Z's and P's have a better shot at a tittle!


What. Out of the 8 spots in the round of 16 so far, 5 are terran.

Thats pretty damn well. Fact checks, fact checks.


Well at least we're thankful that it's not more than 80 percent, right?


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Aco1064
Profile Joined January 2012
United States4 Posts
January 15 2012 04:56 GMT
#63
It does suck to see bomber go, but saying MvP has a “greedy” style is discrediting the player overall and, in my humble opinion, a pretty biased standpoint. I played Starcraft Vanilla from start til starcraft 2 came out, and all I see when I hear things like "mvp greedy" is a person who doesn’t truly understand what macro is. Saying that a player "built more stuff and won” sounds like a hidden way to attack the best player currently in the world. Ultimately, with statements like that are you also saying NaDa wasn't good at starcraft brood war because he made more stuff....Generally, as terran, having more supply is a rare thing and I think that players who are able to achieve this should be congratulated for their macro, not discredited by saying they won by "building more stuff"....In fact I haven't seen a game where either bomber or mvp didn't open the game with some kind of harass. In addition, most of these "building more stuff" terrans are clearly playing this way due to the maps being altered to where they essentially force long macro games instead of pressure builds like 2rax or the "clide push" having any chance of success.
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JoeAWESOME
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1080 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 16:47:22
January 15 2012 16:46 GMT
#64
I thought Bomber would make it out of his group but I guess not!

OZ played okey but still nice to see him make it through. Bomber ruined my Liquid bet



Too bad Idra got BO-losses vs Nestea... Would have loved to see some longer games.
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HunterStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada249 Posts
January 15 2012 18:19 GMT
#65
Is there any word on who's casting code s this week? :S Assuming Artosis is at home with his small baby.. I dunno and I'm very curious. Has anyone heard anything?
Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
January 15 2012 22:17 GMT
#66
great read!
Check out my guide to mechanics http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319876
danduz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States77 Posts
January 15 2012 22:41 GMT
#67
I was wondering if you could also just add series results? Sometimes I don't want to read through the game summaries and just want to know the results of the series with just one click. Thank you.
ePAttack
Profile Joined September 2010
United States112 Posts
January 15 2012 23:17 GMT
#68
Quite the upset I was hoping for Bomber.
Him and his cool jackets...
Aco1064
Profile Joined January 2012
United States4 Posts
January 16 2012 06:37 GMT
#69
really not suprising he didnt get out, with 2 protoss in the group
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