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2003 OGN Challenge League - Week #1 RESULTS

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mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
March 06 2003 06:26 GMT
#1
The 1st of the 2003 OGN Challenge League kicked off Tuesday, March 4. The top two make it into the next Duel Tournament. The rest get to stand idle twiddling thumbs for the next 4 months. So, lots at stake. The results first:


1) [Oops]Spoon (T) ("Shim Sung-soo") > Saferzerg (Z) ("Kim Geun-baek") - Shin Gaema Gowon (NOTE: "shin" is the Korean word for "new" or "neo." OGN made a conscious decision not to go with the usual "neo" tag this time because the map name is of Korean origin)
2) [pG]Liquid`Nazgul (P) ("Victor Goossens") < Classic_NT (T) (aka Zodiac - NOTE: NOT to be confused with the gosu Zodiac who famously fought Boxer to a standstill.) ("Kim Yeon-guk") - Shin Gaema Gowon
3) Classic_NT (T) < [Oops]Spoon (T) - Guillotine -> [Oops]Spoon qualifies for the next Duel Tournament
4) Saferzerg (Z) > [pG]Liquid`Nazgul (P) - Neo Bifrost
5) Saferzerg (Z) > Classic_NT (T) - Nostalgia -> Saferzerg qualifies for the next Duel Tournament


[Oops]Spoon and Saferzerg move on and get to take on the big boys in the Duel Tournament.

A disappointing series of matches. Low quality overall and mistakes and missed opportunities abounded. Perhaps not so surprising given that 3 of the 4 players in Group A were complete newbies to the OGN CL scene. Only Spoon had previous CL experience and I don't think it was any coincidence that he finished first - and with relative ease.

Our boy Nazgul gave it a shot, but he just wasn't himself today. His first match on Gaema Gowon was lost in like 5-6 minutes. Got M&M + tank rushed early. Had lots of goons to counter and even the OGN casters thought Naz would stop the rush easily. But, it looked like Naz made some control mistakes and the goons melted like weird-flavored ice cream. His 2nd game v Saferzerg was better fought and lasted a good 20 mins, but it was an uphill battle for Victor almost from the start. Got boxed in his main while Saferzerg was

busy Sauron expanding everywhere. Nazgul took his rear natural, but by the time Nazgul built up his lot/goon/temp forces to break out, Safer was waiting with at least four-five dozen units of lings/hydras/lurks. No chance.

In all honesty, I thought Nazgul should have won his opening match. The OGN commentator Kim Chang-sun (formerly a top player himself with the id [B-Blade]Leader) even went so far as to say that if Nazgul had won the first match he predicted a first place finish for our Dutch warrior. But, Nazgul didn't play anywhere near his usual level. Made all sorts of tiny, but costly mistakes. Not just the control fuck-up with the goons in his first match, but in his 2nd match letting his temps get decimated and missing the opportunity to do some damage with a zealot drop against Saferzerg's expansions, virtually none of them defended very well (Saferzerg was also playing very poorly, btw. Almost even let Nazgul back into the game.).

A lesson learned I think for everyone, especially Nazgul. Experience counts in TV matches. Winning is as much a state of mind as it is about pure skill. Anyone wonder why Boxer's so tough, especially when the stakes are high? It's not just his skill - it's the ability to relax, concentrate and play like he usually does during practice, even in front of large crowds and TV cameras.

But, anyway, time to move on. Good luck next time Nazgul!


Coming up this Friday, March 7:

Group B:

TheMarine (T) v Crystal[Inca] (Z)
Shin Jung-min (?) v ProNT_Sonjjang (P)

actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
sword_siege
Profile Joined September 2002
United States624 Posts
March 06 2003 06:52 GMT
#2
Ahhh, the pain of reliving it again. Poor Naz, but like you said, "time to move on. Good luck next time Nazgul!".
zeus
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia324 Posts
March 06 2003 07:06 GMT
#3
fkn hell, theres a spider somewhere in my roon and i cant sleep now, the fucker fell of its web...
and by the time i got the broom out to go kill it, the fucker hide somewhere

ffs
where do you want to go today?i want to go nowhere. and if i do, i will do it in my own timeand when i am ready. just give me the steering wheel and ill let *you* know where i will be going.Linux: Telling Microsoft where to go today since 1991
ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
March 06 2003 07:42 GMT
#4
rofl


2bad Naz
Next time u'll get them

If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
March 06 2003 08:07 GMT
#5
On March 06 2003 16:06 zeus wrote:
fkn hell, theres a spider somewhere in my roon and i cant sleep now, the fucker fell of its web...
and by the time i got the broom out to go kill it, the fucker hide somewhere

ffs


hahaha
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
BatiGoL
Profile Joined February 2003
Greece272 Posts
March 06 2003 11:07 GMT
#6
' Made all sorts of tiny, but costly mistakes '
ilnp cheated in WDTour whether you like it or not T_T
NoName
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1558 Posts
March 06 2003 11:22 GMT
#7
next time...

will there be VODs? even thought it was bg... i'd still like to see local hero, L'NG games.
Wam-bam-ba-boom! Bada-bing!
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
March 06 2003 14:39 GMT
#8
Bah . Can Naz even afford to stay for those 4 months (I doubt it )? If not, then what options are still open?
L!MP
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia2067 Posts
March 07 2003 23:07 GMT
#9
if he can even afford to stay, the next big chance he has will be under even more pressure! it will be make or break basically
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