• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 00:16
CET 06:16
KST 14:16
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT29Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Team Liquid Map Contest - Preparation Notice6Weekly Cups (Feb 23-Mar 1): herO doubles, 2v2 bonanza1Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles0Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0258
StarCraft 2
General
How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Vitality disbanding their sc2-team Team Liquid Map Contest - Preparation Notice ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026 RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare
Brood War
General
BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 Gypsy to Korea Flash's ASL S21 & Future Plans Announcement BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifier #1 - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
PC Games Sales Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Gaming-Related Deaths
TrAiDoS
ONE GREAT AMERICAN MARINE…
XenOsky
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1860 users

2003 OGN Challenge League - Week #1 RESULTS

Forum Index > News
Post a Reply
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
March 06 2003 06:26 GMT
#1
The 1st of the 2003 OGN Challenge League kicked off Tuesday, March 4. The top two make it into the next Duel Tournament. The rest get to stand idle twiddling thumbs for the next 4 months. So, lots at stake. The results first:


1) [Oops]Spoon (T) ("Shim Sung-soo") > Saferzerg (Z) ("Kim Geun-baek") - Shin Gaema Gowon (NOTE: "shin" is the Korean word for "new" or "neo." OGN made a conscious decision not to go with the usual "neo" tag this time because the map name is of Korean origin)
2) [pG]Liquid`Nazgul (P) ("Victor Goossens") < Classic_NT (T) (aka Zodiac - NOTE: NOT to be confused with the gosu Zodiac who famously fought Boxer to a standstill.) ("Kim Yeon-guk") - Shin Gaema Gowon
3) Classic_NT (T) < [Oops]Spoon (T) - Guillotine -> [Oops]Spoon qualifies for the next Duel Tournament
4) Saferzerg (Z) > [pG]Liquid`Nazgul (P) - Neo Bifrost
5) Saferzerg (Z) > Classic_NT (T) - Nostalgia -> Saferzerg qualifies for the next Duel Tournament


[Oops]Spoon and Saferzerg move on and get to take on the big boys in the Duel Tournament.

A disappointing series of matches. Low quality overall and mistakes and missed opportunities abounded. Perhaps not so surprising given that 3 of the 4 players in Group A were complete newbies to the OGN CL scene. Only Spoon had previous CL experience and I don't think it was any coincidence that he finished first - and with relative ease.

Our boy Nazgul gave it a shot, but he just wasn't himself today. His first match on Gaema Gowon was lost in like 5-6 minutes. Got M&M + tank rushed early. Had lots of goons to counter and even the OGN casters thought Naz would stop the rush easily. But, it looked like Naz made some control mistakes and the goons melted like weird-flavored ice cream. His 2nd game v Saferzerg was better fought and lasted a good 20 mins, but it was an uphill battle for Victor almost from the start. Got boxed in his main while Saferzerg was

busy Sauron expanding everywhere. Nazgul took his rear natural, but by the time Nazgul built up his lot/goon/temp forces to break out, Safer was waiting with at least four-five dozen units of lings/hydras/lurks. No chance.

In all honesty, I thought Nazgul should have won his opening match. The OGN commentator Kim Chang-sun (formerly a top player himself with the id [B-Blade]Leader) even went so far as to say that if Nazgul had won the first match he predicted a first place finish for our Dutch warrior. But, Nazgul didn't play anywhere near his usual level. Made all sorts of tiny, but costly mistakes. Not just the control fuck-up with the goons in his first match, but in his 2nd match letting his temps get decimated and missing the opportunity to do some damage with a zealot drop against Saferzerg's expansions, virtually none of them defended very well (Saferzerg was also playing very poorly, btw. Almost even let Nazgul back into the game.).

A lesson learned I think for everyone, especially Nazgul. Experience counts in TV matches. Winning is as much a state of mind as it is about pure skill. Anyone wonder why Boxer's so tough, especially when the stakes are high? It's not just his skill - it's the ability to relax, concentrate and play like he usually does during practice, even in front of large crowds and TV cameras.

But, anyway, time to move on. Good luck next time Nazgul!


Coming up this Friday, March 7:

Group B:

TheMarine (T) v Crystal[Inca] (Z)
Shin Jung-min (?) v ProNT_Sonjjang (P)

actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
sword_siege
Profile Joined September 2002
United States624 Posts
March 06 2003 06:52 GMT
#2
Ahhh, the pain of reliving it again. Poor Naz, but like you said, "time to move on. Good luck next time Nazgul!".
zeus
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia324 Posts
March 06 2003 07:06 GMT
#3
fkn hell, theres a spider somewhere in my roon and i cant sleep now, the fucker fell of its web...
and by the time i got the broom out to go kill it, the fucker hide somewhere

ffs
where do you want to go today?i want to go nowhere. and if i do, i will do it in my own timeand when i am ready. just give me the steering wheel and ill let *you* know where i will be going.Linux: Telling Microsoft where to go today since 1991
ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
March 06 2003 07:42 GMT
#4
rofl


2bad Naz
Next time u'll get them

If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
March 06 2003 08:07 GMT
#5
On March 06 2003 16:06 zeus wrote:
fkn hell, theres a spider somewhere in my roon and i cant sleep now, the fucker fell of its web...
and by the time i got the broom out to go kill it, the fucker hide somewhere

ffs


hahaha
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
BatiGoL
Profile Joined February 2003
Greece272 Posts
March 06 2003 11:07 GMT
#6
' Made all sorts of tiny, but costly mistakes '
ilnp cheated in WDTour whether you like it or not T_T
NoName
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1558 Posts
March 06 2003 11:22 GMT
#7
next time...

will there be VODs? even thought it was bg... i'd still like to see local hero, L'NG games.
Wam-bam-ba-boom! Bada-bing!
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
March 06 2003 14:39 GMT
#8
Bah . Can Naz even afford to stay for those 4 months (I doubt it )? If not, then what options are still open?
L!MP
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia2067 Posts
March 07 2003 23:07 GMT
#9
if he can even afford to stay, the next big chance he has will be under even more pressure! it will be make or break basically
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
LiuLi Cup Grand Finals Playoff
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 181
ViBE159
ProTech120
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 10740
Sea 6084
PianO 523
ToSsGirL 73
Dewaltoss 61
Icarus 9
Terrorterran 2
League of Legends
JimRising 770
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K889
taco 441
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor108
Other Games
summit1g9533
C9.Mang0370
ToD36
Mew2King29
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 2519
UltimateBattle 204
lovetv 7
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH1545
• Hupsaiya 437
• Sammyuel 8
• practicex 2
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 25
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1102
• Stunt329
Other Games
• Scarra733
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
4h 44m
RSL Revival
4h 44m
Reynor vs Zoun
herO vs sOs
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6h 44m
Classic vs Rogue
Solar vs Gerald
Bunny vs Nicoract
ByuN vs Zoun
herO vs Clem
MaxPax vs Cure
AI Arena Tournament
14h 44m
Patches Events
17h 44m
Replay Cast
18h 44m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 4h
RSL Revival
1d 4h
Classic vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Cham
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 6h
OSC
1d 7h
[ Show More ]
BSL
1d 14h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
Replay Cast
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-05
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #1
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

ASL Season 21: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
NationLESS Cup
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.