Awesome read, DH was amazing to watch, wish i could have been there. Looks like the crowds were insane and MC casting was awesome to listen to. Had a great time watching, cant wait for the next DH event, should be lots of fun.

dbosworld

United States317 Posts

June 28 2011 22:25 GMT

#63

Gocchisama

France5 Posts

June 28 2011 22:26 GMT

#64

nice article,as always.

Liquid team hwaiting!!

a_flayer

Netherlands2826 Posts

June 28 2011 22:26 GMT

#65

I wonder if there has been any mention of "the hotel problem" on playxp.

Eggcake

Switzerland722 Posts

June 28 2011 22:32 GMT

#66

Very nice, thanks.

TheBanana

Norway2183 Posts

June 28 2011 22:35 GMT

#67

The title of number 6 is so terribly misleading that my brain took offence and divorced my head.
It booked plane tickets and disappeared. I hope no one accommodates his stupid ass since I need it for work.

Edit: I like the rewritten version though, thumps up.

Telcontar

United Kingdom16710 Posts

June 28 2011 22:36 GMT

#68

Awesome writeup! And I'm honoured that you used my korean netizen translation. ^^

Pipeline

Sweden1673 Posts

June 28 2011 22:42 GMT

#69

On June 29 2011 06:38 GenoZStriker wrote:

Show nested quote +

On June 29 2011 06:19 Starfox wrote:
@#6
Just happened to read irc while this was scrolling along

[23:10:05] <hugge> a_flayer: yeah well. From our point of view. the koreans (excluding ogs) didnt have anything arranged at all for their visit, since they were under the impression that they just had to fly over and then everything else would be sorted.
[23:10:20] <hugge> a_flayer: so when they landed, we asked which hotel, and they hadnt book any
[23:11:02] <hugge> a_flayer: so we had to solve this within an hour, and booking a hotel at dreamhack one day before the event is VERY hard.
[23:11:27] <hugge> a_flayer: so we got hang of one room quite far from the event which indeed was housing 5-6 people in the same room (there was beds for everyone tho)
[23:11:58] <hugge> at first they even thought that we would buy them flight-tickets
[23:12:00] <hugge> which is absurd.
[23:12:21] <hugge> And alot of the invites forced us to fix everything for them, otherwise they wouldnt come.
[23:12:28] <hugge> Which happened.
[23:12:57] <hugge> That would be extremtly unfair against other invites if we payed travel and living for only koreans.
[23:13:32] <hugge> And mc did have a "real" hotelroom but choosed to live with his friends.
[23:14:31] <hugge> Also. "leave their booking and arrangements up to the dreamhack-staff" Should be "forced dreamhack to arrange travel and living without notice"
[23:14:44] <hugge> Yeah well, we had extremtly well-written letters going out to the teams.
[23:15:00] <hugge> In english. off course. And all other players didnt have a problem understanding this.
[23:15:11] <hugge> Just startale with entourage.
[23:16:12] <hugge> So i dont think its a translation error, rather a cultural-error, they were 100% sure we would fix everything for them, we were 100% sure that we just accept their applications and have them ready at 08:00 saturday morning.
[23:16:30] <hugge> Since it was pretty much all the teams except oGs that has this misconception.

Perhaps you should do more research before reporting so onesided?
The title shouldn't be "#6. Koreans Mistreated", but rather "#6. Koreans Treated Like Everybody Else"

Nevertheless a nice writeup.

I pretty much agree with this.

Awesome write (except how you did nr #6). I have to agree with the quoted posters. It puts dreamhack in a bad spot when you present it the way you did.

mikyaJ

1834 Posts

June 28 2011 22:50 GMT

#70

Which one of these guys didn't train in Seoul?

Huk doesn't, afaik the oGs house is in Incheon :p

NeWeNiyaLord

Norway2474 Posts

June 28 2011 22:53 GMT

#71

Good read!

Atrioc

United States1865 Posts

June 28 2011 22:54 GMT

#72

Just to be clear, the intention was never to slander or defame Dreamhack in the slightest, and the I had a long and friendly IRC chat with hugge after he posted that stuff you are quoting in which I got the full story and made a quick update to the article (which will soon be turned into a full rewrite).

The original post was written based off the information given to me by July, MC, and a representative of one of the sponsors. All three of them had directed their anger/dissapointment at Dreamhack, and not at the real culprit of the Korean managers, which the edit reflects as the problem.

However - it is worth noting that the Dreamhack invitational and MLG (among other events) have in fact provided Koreans accommodations in the past, which may have caused their confusion in this instance (Despite the fact that there was an english agreement that told them otherwise)

Thus, as with most problems that result from miscommunication, it really isn't a case of any party doing anything malicious - but rather a mix-up that left the Korean players out of their element in a slightly uncomfortable situation. As far as I could see from the event, they all still had a great time!

Glad people liked the write up. #6 will have a full rewrite soon.

WArped

United Kingdom4845 Posts

June 28 2011 22:58 GMT

#73

Great write-up!
I loved the bonus section, it warmed my heart.

deerpark87

760 Posts

June 28 2011 22:59 GMT

#74

Good write up.

I just wish more pros in the foreigner's scene follow Huk's work ethic.

zeenix1

Sweden89 Posts

June 28 2011 23:10 GMT

#75

People doesnt seem to get that Dreamhack is first and foremost a LAN-party, not an esport event.. and ppl continue to feed that misconception with articles like this. Look at DH-Invitational, when it IS about the esport its almost a flawless event.. and I dont think W-Ra, MC, IdrA & Huk had to share room that time around

Moxi

708 Posts

June 28 2011 23:10 GMT

#76

Amazing write up, very interesting.

KomradeKevin

United States88 Posts

June 28 2011 23:17 GMT

#77

Great read! This type of recap is what I would like to read more of. This is as good as Pony Tales, just not quite as funny. Love me some Pony Tales.

MCDayC

United Kingdom14464 Posts

June 28 2011 23:23 GMT

#78

Really sick right up. I feel bad for Jinro, but I hope the fandom and pressure make him back into the beast that he was. He deserve as much.

RyanRushia

United States2748 Posts

June 28 2011 23:27 GMT

#79

wow great read! too bad for the korean players hadnt heard anything about that : ( oh well life goes on

Greatness

United States450 Posts

June 28 2011 23:29 GMT

#80

On June 29 2011 07:54 Atrioc wrote:
Just to be clear, the intention was never to slander or defame Dreamhack in the slightest, and the I had a long and friendly IRC chat with hugge after he posted that stuff you are quoting in which I got the full story and made a quick update to the article (which will soon be turned into a full rewrite).

The original post was written based off the information given to me by July, MC, and a representative of one of the sponsors. All three of them had directed their anger/dissapointment at Dreamhack, and not at the real culprit of the Korean managers, which the edit reflects as the problem.

However - it is worth noting that the Dreamhack invitational and MLG (among other events) have in fact provided Koreans accommodations in the past, which may have caused their confusion in this instance (Despite the fact that there was an english agreement that told them otherwise)

Thus, as with most problems that result from miscommunication, it really isn't a case of any party doing anything malicious - but rather a mix-up that left the Korean players out of their element in a slightly uncomfortable situation. As far as I could see from the event, they all still had a great time!

Glad people liked the write up. #6 will have a full rewrite soon.

Apparently all they read was "Dreamhack invitational" in their letter and nothing more ;s