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mDuo13
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States307 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-08 00:13:20
June 08 2011 00:12 GMT
#101
mDuo13
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States307 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-08 00:13:08
June 08 2011 00:12 GMT
#102
It’s always a treat to watch Boxer play; he has the best mix of safe and creative play and makes some awesome decisions while playing.

Uhhh... I love to watch the Emperor play as well, but... I wouldn't call most things BoxeR does "safe". If anything, he takes calculated risks as much as anyone.

I find the cutoff lines for playoffs in the OP confusing. As I understand, there are 16 spots in the playoffs -- 10 for division winners, 5 for high-ranked wildcards, and 1 from the open qualifier... so how are all 22 of the players above Cutoff #1 "almost certainly" going to make it in?

Those aside, good thread. Looking forward to NASL's playoffs.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
June 08 2011 00:13 GMT
#103
iNcontroL is one of the kings of strong standard play, as is Sjow. Both of these players showcase extremely safe and solid styles that should be great for incorporating into your macro play.


Really? Who wrote this? -.-

incontrol is definitely a good player but I wouldn't even put him close to the title of "king of strong standard play."
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
June 08 2011 00:16 GMT
#104
Great write up, can't wait for miniWHEAT lol. I really wish there was a way to fix people from quitting at the end but until then I guess we will have to deal with it. As the finals will be at a LAN who ever wins this has waaayyyy more honor and bragging rights than any other tournament to date (besides winning the GSL of course- but thats on a WHOLE different level ] ) I cannot wait for the finals in July.
Long live the Boss Toss!
wattabeast
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States957 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-08 00:26:56
June 08 2011 00:25 GMT
#105
I have a few edits that have come to my attention. First off,
Fenix clinches a spot in the finals with a 2-0 or 2-1 win vs Moon.
Fenix cannot advance to the finals if he loses.

Sheth clinches a spot in the finals with a 2-0 or 2-1 win vs MorroW.
Fenix cannot advance to the finals if he loses.

The second "Fenix cannot advance to the finals if he loses" Should be "Sheth cannot advance to the finals if he loses.
Next edit.
For the playoff cutoffs MC is not mentioned besides in the overall list of players and their rankings. Please fix these! THanks, Wattabeast
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viii
Profile Joined March 2011
United States266 Posts
June 08 2011 00:58 GMT
#106
The tourney is awesome, but division 5 is the most interesting to me, i really think they should mix up the groups so not one division has almost all the strong players.
For those who came from nothing, and became something - DGK
Raid
Profile Joined September 2010
United States398 Posts
June 08 2011 00:59 GMT
#107
Boxer vs Idra! droollllllllll

They finally meet again after the manofoneway had deemed Idra as grack for all eternity....
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
June 08 2011 01:02 GMT
#108
I really Want Zenio and Boxer to make it out of Division 5, but Sen is just too awesome so GOGO SEN and not Zenio
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
June 08 2011 01:13 GMT
#109
Ill never adapt to Gretorp's casting, but the NASL has still been awesome. Can't wait to see who wins this....so many great Zerg hopes likely to be in the finals and playoffs, as well as my favorite Terran, Select!
ES_JohnClark
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1121 Posts
June 08 2011 01:17 GMT
#110
very good write up. It certainly shows some issues where NASL needs improvement, but overall a pretty successful season.
Still Naked!
kongor
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada38 Posts
June 08 2011 01:33 GMT
#111
Great write-up motbob, confusedcrib, JimLloyd, and emythrel! Thank you!
Happy Frog
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia490 Posts
June 08 2011 01:41 GMT
#112
Awesome as always motbob!
yowza
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland210 Posts
June 08 2011 01:54 GMT
#113
"The Koreans are dealing with lag (like they'd sweep the podium at a NA LAN event), or these aren’t the best Koreans (as if someone like, say, MMA, would beat July), or something else; I'm sure someone will tell us."

I find this entire statement hilarious considering koreans showed how hard they steamroll without lag to slow them down at MLG, not a single one got knocked out by a non-korean.

Oh and MMA finished first while July finished what, 10th?


Where as online-leagues like the NASL and TSL are entertaining, they show very little of what the koreans are capable of in my opinion, simply because of the latency difference.

It's hardly a coincidence that foreigners achieve very little at the GSL while koreans win pretty much every single foreign LAN they attend.
derp
Talkerst
Profile Joined October 2010
124 Posts
June 08 2011 02:03 GMT
#114
I was working on something similar but your write-up is great. However, I ran into an issue when Xeris posted http://www.nasl.tv/News/Article/20110607nasl-playoffs-week-8-snapshot today. In it he says a three way tie between Sjow, DarkForce and White-Ra would go to White-Ra regardless of points because he has a head-to-head win against both. It then goes on to say ties are determined by head-to-head first then points. This seems to be reverse of what you have, I also assumed points first initially. Maybe I'm just reading what he said wrong but thought I'd point it out either way.
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
June 08 2011 02:04 GMT
#115
should be a fine for not playing a match. these "quitters" could ruin who ends making playoffs and such.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-08 02:06:46
June 08 2011 02:06 GMT
#116
On June 08 2011 11:03 Talkerst wrote:
I was working on something similar but your write-up is great. However, I ran into an issue when Xeris posted http://www.nasl.tv/News/Article/20110607nasl-playoffs-week-8-snapshot today. In it he says a three way tie between Sjow, DarkForce and White-Ra would go to White-Ra regardless of points because he has a head-to-head win against both. It then goes on to say ties are determined by head-to-head first then points. This seems to be reverse of what you have, I also assumed points first initially. Maybe I'm just reading what he said wrong but thought I'd point it out either way.

What? I was sure it would be points. Doesn't points make more sense? Weird.
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Talkerst
Profile Joined October 2010
124 Posts
June 08 2011 02:08 GMT
#117
Points does make sense, as I figured that's the way it should be as well. Feel free to tell me Xeris has it wrong in the article or that I misread it. Really confused right now myself.
confusedcrib
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1307 Posts
June 08 2011 02:16 GMT
#118
On June 08 2011 07:56 cheesemaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 05:37 Senx wrote:
On June 08 2011 05:26 Beyonder wrote:
iNcontroL is one of the kings of strong standard play, as is Sjow. Both of these players showcase extremely safe and solid styles that should be great for incorporating into your macro play. iNcontrol tends to be very solid in his decision making, showing you great places to hide pylons and when are good timings to poke out with your army. Sjow is very solid in his macro and decision making as well, a great player to learn proper army control and movement from. Both of these players should teach some great timings to poke and prod at your opponent


Doesnt inc do a lot of funky stuff? His way is mindgames, not necessarily standard games :o (e.g. his silly stuff vs losira).. And sjow is kind of different too lately (e.g. his tank/hellion pushes vs zerg^^)

Great to see a well written positive report! Think we are a tad harsh sometimes on sc2 ^_^ gj. And oohh, I especially like JimLloyd's part!


I find myself confused as to what Incontrols style of play actually is - on his stream he's 99% of the time playing straight up long macro games, however in alot of tournament games he goes for some sort of rush or funky strategy.


Yea i really wish wed see him play straight up games we know he is so good at and showcases on his stream, but it seems (maybe less so in NASL) but at LANS he gets flustered or something he always seems to go for some cheesy funky strategy, not that there is anything wrong with that, but i know he can play a really good straight up style and thats the style i like to see from him. Relying on a pylon not being found isnt something you can rely on consistently.


I probably should have included this in the description, but when iNcontroL does something funky, it is usually very easy to spot why that it is. iNcontroL very rarely goes in for a blind cheese (unless he thinks that his opponent will be weak to it). When he does cheese or do something funky, 99% of the time it is warpgate aggression, and there is usually a reason behind it (such as seeing a zerg take a really late gas or not having a probe scouted inside his enemies base). iNcontroL's style is also one of the best to learn from because it is very easy to emulate, there's a lot of poking but it's not like most of his styles require ungodly micro to pull off.

On June 08 2011 08:25 Diabolegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
Qxc has so many [TvZ] openings designed for aggression


Qxc said on Mr. Bitter's "12 Weeks with the Pros" that he has 2 builds vs Zerg: 2 Rax and Reactor Hellion-Cloaked Banshee. Has that changed? I haven't watched all his TvZ matches in the NASL.


Oh QXC. Those are probably the only two consistently safe builds that he has, but believe me, he has a lot more that he can and will pull out. Such as 3 reaper hellion harass and ghost pushes. Those two are probably his safest builds, but he has a lot more in his arsenal.

On June 08 2011 09:13 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
iNcontroL is one of the kings of strong standard play, as is Sjow. Both of these players showcase extremely safe and solid styles that should be great for incorporating into your macro play.


Really? Who wrote this? -.-

incontrol is definitely a good player but I wouldn't even put him close to the title of "king of strong standard play."


I wrote that! iNcontroL is definitely one of the kings of standard play. The guy popularized three gate expo vs. zerg and plays a standard pressure expand build almost every game. Just because he doesn't get 1st place doesn't mean he's suddenly bad. Other kings of safe play: Tyler, Ret, Haypro, Nada, Sjow, Artosis, Jinro, and the list goes on. I didn't mean the ultimate pro gamer ever at safe play, I just meant someone who is very good at it.
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bEwArE
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom121 Posts
June 08 2011 02:18 GMT
#119
NASL really has been awesome, Moon v KiWi was a really good game.
IMMVP #1 Terran
aristarchus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States652 Posts
June 08 2011 02:24 GMT
#120
On June 08 2011 11:08 Talkerst wrote:
Points does make sense, as I figured that's the way it should be as well. Feel free to tell me Xeris has it wrong in the article or that I misread it. Really confused right now myself.

nasl.tv has the current rankings calculated as points-first, for what it's worth.... and doesn't seem to have any official rules anywhere....
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