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Awesome, thanks TL for the write-up. I've only watched the 1st match in gom's site, the others were locked, so thanks for summing up the matches.
Awesome the game, awesome that gsl2 qualifiers are starting soon, can't wait! Scary to think how players will get monstruously better... And awesome to be with you tl. Thanks.
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On October 07 2010 20:07 beetlelisk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2010 19:57 Domonic wrote:On October 07 2010 15:44 Hot_Bid wrote:On October 07 2010 13:13 BradyBunch wrote:
this was not a sc1 tournament. cool didnt win. didnt see any rainbows either. this stuff is very annoying and makes esports look silly. its like calling the Tennessee Titans the Houston Oilers just because thats what people use to say/recognize. moronic. it was stated on gomtv that they wanted to be called a fruit dealer and hopetorture. it shouldnt be this confusing/difficult Unfortunately your analogy does not make sense because a gamer's ID is largely determined by what the fans recognize him as, not what the progamer calls himself. It is not the same thing as a professional sports team moving cities. When proteams change their names (from KTF MagicNs to KT Rolster for example) the entire community calls them the updated name. But when a player selects an ID, it's a much more informal thing and the fans basically decide what to refer to them as. Thus, you are free to call them whatever you wish, but to many here they will always be Cool, Rainbow, and Boxer. This will always be so in our news posts, in our official TLPD statistics database, and in our forum threads. Get used to it. Cool's main ID here might be interchangeable just because of how awesome "Fruit Dealer" is and how little he accomplished in BW, but Boxer and Rainbow will never be more known on TL than as their original IDs. In the GSL2, there is no way I'm calling Nada "BnetLagNotKESPA" and July "XtraLargePizza" just because they decide they set those IDs. I disagree. Rainbow's career in the brood war genre was nothing extraordinary, and if he wants to change his sn in Starcraft 2, whatever his reasons, we should respect that; and even the korean commentators agree. Boxer will always be boxer because that has always been his sn in brood war, it has been for YEARS, and he has achieved much. Even if he achieves more than what he did in Starcraft 2 than in brood war, he will still be known as Boxer in brood war, and manofoneway in Starcraft 2 out of respect. You are really comparing different things. Are you sure you have the knowledge required to question an admin? Old names will keep coming back because there is significant amount of people who recognize them by their old names but aren't familiar with the new ones. It's similar with nicks people are given in school or at workplace IMO. You will always hear "HopeTorture aka IntoTheRainbow". Show nested quote +On October 07 2010 18:43 andrea20 wrote:On October 07 2010 15:44 Hot_Bid wrote:
Unfortunately your analogy does not make sense because a gamer's ID is largely determined by what the fans recognize him as, not what the progamer calls himself. It is not the same thing as a professional sports team moving cities. When proteams change their names (from KTF MagicNs to KT Rolster for example) the entire community calls them the updated name. But when a player selects an ID, it's a much more informal thing and the fans basically decide what to refer to them as.
Thus, you are free to call them whatever you wish, but to many here they will always be Cool, Rainbow, and Boxer. This will always be so in our news posts, in our official TLPD statistics database, and in our forum threads. Get used to it. Cool's main ID here might be interchangeable just because of how awesome "Fruit Dealer" is and how little he accomplished in BW, but Boxer and Rainbow will never be more known on TL than as their original IDs.
In the GSL2, there is no way I'm calling Nada "BnetLagNotKESPA" and July "XtraLargePizza" just because they decide they set those IDs. Really? The vast majority of fans (Korean, not foreign) refer to many of their players by their real names. In GSL, whenever someone mentioned Fruit Dealer in Korean, either the interviewee or the interpreter said his real name. Anyway, Fruit Dealer is a special case: Boxer and NaDa have fan clubs and are known even outside the SC circuit; Fruit Dealer had an unremarkable SC1 career. Many people have never even heard of him until the GSL, and a good portion of his new fans will relate to him as Fruit Dealer, not Cool. If Fruit Dealer ends up playing 5+ years of SC2 with that name and completely overshadows his SC1 career, will people still call him Cool? It's like calling Babe Ruth "George" just because that's his birth name. I think the players change names because they want it to mark a turning point in their life/career, a new leaf perhaps. Tester has gone on the record that he doesn't like that name anymore and wants to be called sSKS. Shouldn't we respect that? Besides, seeing fans wave around fruit and Tastosis utter a corny fruit-related joke every few minutes is a lot more entertaining than trying to come up with "Cool" puns. andrea... read what he wrote about Cool. You basically agreed with him on every point 
Am I sure I have the knowledge to question an admin? Since when did being an admin mean your smarter than everyone else? You can't question an opinion, he has his opinion and I have mine, if I disagreed with him on something that he believed was fact, then for me to prove my fact I would have to back it up with evidence. However we are not discussing fact, but opinion.
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epic =] so glad a zerg player won.
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Awesome vid and a fitting tribute to FruitDealer, looking forwards to the next GSL so much :D
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great write up! really good to relive the most exciting moments of the tournament without watching everything all over again!
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Wow Im so glad a zerg won, even though I play terran. Very very nice job Fruitseller! And good try Rainbow.
edit: fruitdealer
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I just hope GSL2 has more accessible VODs :{ As a poor overworked college student on the West coast watching the streams is taxing T-T
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The award names make me so happy :D
GG Fruit, I'm pumped a zerg won with such style.
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Watching this recap makes me wonder how many banelings were slaughtered in the makings of this production/his championship (would be hilarious to get a count...entirely too lazy to add them up myself, but that's a TON of banelings, hah)
Great tournament with storybook-style ending, hope this is a preview of the future of sc2.
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Sad that Idra didn't win. But I'm not shocked by this out come.
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great write up. Was a good season, can't wait for s2, big names incomming hope they can show some crazy tactics. can't wait.
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These write up's were hilarious, an excellent compliment to some great play. I think my favorite moral so far is that against cool, thors fail to successfully sell fruit at the zerg natural.
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On October 08 2010 08:07 Domonic wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2010 20:07 beetlelisk wrote:On October 07 2010 19:57 Domonic wrote:On October 07 2010 15:44 Hot_Bid wrote:On October 07 2010 13:13 BradyBunch wrote:
this was not a sc1 tournament. cool didnt win. didnt see any rainbows either. this stuff is very annoying and makes esports look silly. its like calling the Tennessee Titans the Houston Oilers just because thats what people use to say/recognize. moronic. it was stated on gomtv that they wanted to be called a fruit dealer and hopetorture. it shouldnt be this confusing/difficult Unfortunately your analogy does not make sense because a gamer's ID is largely determined by what the fans recognize him as, not what the progamer calls himself. It is not the same thing as a professional sports team moving cities. When proteams change their names (from KTF MagicNs to KT Rolster for example) the entire community calls them the updated name. But when a player selects an ID, it's a much more informal thing and the fans basically decide what to refer to them as. Thus, you are free to call them whatever you wish, but to many here they will always be Cool, Rainbow, and Boxer. This will always be so in our news posts, in our official TLPD statistics database, and in our forum threads. Get used to it. Cool's main ID here might be interchangeable just because of how awesome "Fruit Dealer" is and how little he accomplished in BW, but Boxer and Rainbow will never be more known on TL than as their original IDs. In the GSL2, there is no way I'm calling Nada "BnetLagNotKESPA" and July "XtraLargePizza" just because they decide they set those IDs. I disagree. Rainbow's career in the brood war genre was nothing extraordinary, and if he wants to change his sn in Starcraft 2, whatever his reasons, we should respect that; and even the korean commentators agree. Boxer will always be boxer because that has always been his sn in brood war, it has been for YEARS, and he has achieved much. Even if he achieves more than what he did in Starcraft 2 than in brood war, he will still be known as Boxer in brood war, and manofoneway in Starcraft 2 out of respect. You are really comparing different things. Are you sure you have the knowledge required to question an admin? Old names will keep coming back because there is significant amount of people who recognize them by their old names but aren't familiar with the new ones. It's similar with nicks people are given in school or at workplace IMO. You will always hear "HopeTorture aka IntoTheRainbow". On October 07 2010 18:43 andrea20 wrote:On October 07 2010 15:44 Hot_Bid wrote:
Unfortunately your analogy does not make sense because a gamer's ID is largely determined by what the fans recognize him as, not what the progamer calls himself. It is not the same thing as a professional sports team moving cities. When proteams change their names (from KTF MagicNs to KT Rolster for example) the entire community calls them the updated name. But when a player selects an ID, it's a much more informal thing and the fans basically decide what to refer to them as.
Thus, you are free to call them whatever you wish, but to many here they will always be Cool, Rainbow, and Boxer. This will always be so in our news posts, in our official TLPD statistics database, and in our forum threads. Get used to it. Cool's main ID here might be interchangeable just because of how awesome "Fruit Dealer" is and how little he accomplished in BW, but Boxer and Rainbow will never be more known on TL than as their original IDs.
In the GSL2, there is no way I'm calling Nada "BnetLagNotKESPA" and July "XtraLargePizza" just because they decide they set those IDs. Really? The vast majority of fans (Korean, not foreign) refer to many of their players by their real names. In GSL, whenever someone mentioned Fruit Dealer in Korean, either the interviewee or the interpreter said his real name. Anyway, Fruit Dealer is a special case: Boxer and NaDa have fan clubs and are known even outside the SC circuit; Fruit Dealer had an unremarkable SC1 career. Many people have never even heard of him until the GSL, and a good portion of his new fans will relate to him as Fruit Dealer, not Cool. If Fruit Dealer ends up playing 5+ years of SC2 with that name and completely overshadows his SC1 career, will people still call him Cool? It's like calling Babe Ruth "George" just because that's his birth name. I think the players change names because they want it to mark a turning point in their life/career, a new leaf perhaps. Tester has gone on the record that he doesn't like that name anymore and wants to be called sSKS. Shouldn't we respect that? Besides, seeing fans wave around fruit and Tastosis utter a corny fruit-related joke every few minutes is a lot more entertaining than trying to come up with "Cool" puns. andrea... read what he wrote about Cool. You basically agreed with him on every point Am I sure I have the knowledge to question an admin? Since when did being an admin mean your smarter than everyone else? You can't question an opinion, he has his opinion and I have mine, if I disagreed with him on something that he believed was fact, then for me to prove my fact I would have to back it up with evidence. However we are not discussing fact, but opinion.
I disagree. Rainbow's career in the brood war genre was nothing extraordinary
Even though TL player database shows he achieved only 1 title I believe his Reaver usage is legendary. You can dislike it and say it was nothing extraordinary for you but you can't deny he has many fans that think otherwise. Nobody gets fans for not being extraordinary.
The point is admin on this site is someone who got his status through extreme dedication and follows SCene for years. Have you followed it and seen the greatest BW plays of Rainbow?
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I would think InCa's play would get an award against Protoss...either the cannon rush or his fail on his 3gate on lost temple and still manage to come out to win with a perfect timed FF at his choke point
anyways I love the awards
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Thanks for the writeup! Definitely enjoyable to see a Zerg player in the grand finals
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Nice writeup, I was skeptical of GSL S1 at first but it definitely delivered.
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Don't know if this was mentioned but the video is linked in Bnet now.
Edit: oh, just saw my fail *facepalm*
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That music video for some reason, maybe as a zerg player and just a fan/supporter of esports, is really moving.
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