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[GSL] “The One Zerg” - Finals Recap - Page 13

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Evilruler
Profile Joined May 2010
Brazil116 Posts
October 07 2010 22:33 GMT
#241
Awesome, thanks TL for the write-up. I've only watched the 1st match in gom's site, the others were locked, so thanks for summing up the matches.
Awesome the game, awesome that gsl2 qualifiers are starting soon, can't wait! Scary to think how players will get monstruously better... And awesome to be with you tl. Thanks.
Domonic
Profile Joined August 2010
United States135 Posts
October 07 2010 23:07 GMT
#242
On October 07 2010 20:07 beetlelisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2010 19:57 Domonic wrote:
On October 07 2010 15:44 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 07 2010 13:13 BradyBunch wrote:
this was not a sc1 tournament. cool didnt win. didnt see any rainbows either. this stuff is very annoying and makes esports look silly. its like calling the Tennessee Titans the Houston Oilers just because thats what people use to say/recognize. moronic. it was stated on gomtv that they wanted to be called a fruit dealer and hopetorture. it shouldnt be this confusing/difficult

Unfortunately your analogy does not make sense because a gamer's ID is largely determined by what the fans recognize him as, not what the progamer calls himself. It is not the same thing as a professional sports team moving cities. When proteams change their names (from KTF MagicNs to KT Rolster for example) the entire community calls them the updated name. But when a player selects an ID, it's a much more informal thing and the fans basically decide what to refer to them as.

Thus, you are free to call them whatever you wish, but to many here they will always be Cool, Rainbow, and Boxer. This will always be so in our news posts, in our official TLPD statistics database, and in our forum threads. Get used to it. Cool's main ID here might be interchangeable just because of how awesome "Fruit Dealer" is and how little he accomplished in BW, but Boxer and Rainbow will never be more known on TL than as their original IDs.

In the GSL2, there is no way I'm calling Nada "BnetLagNotKESPA" and July "XtraLargePizza" just because they decide they set those IDs.


I disagree. Rainbow's career in the brood war genre was nothing extraordinary, and if he wants to change his sn in Starcraft 2, whatever his reasons, we should respect that; and even the korean commentators agree. Boxer will always be boxer because that has always been his sn in brood war, it has been for YEARS, and he has achieved much. Even if he achieves more than what he did in Starcraft 2 than in brood war, he will still be known as Boxer in brood war, and manofoneway in Starcraft 2 out of respect. You are really comparing different things.

Are you sure you have the knowledge required to question an admin?
Old names will keep coming back because there is significant amount of people who recognize them by their old names but aren't familiar with the new ones.
It's similar with nicks people are given in school or at workplace IMO.

You will always hear "HopeTorture aka IntoTheRainbow".

Show nested quote +
On October 07 2010 18:43 andrea20 wrote:
On October 07 2010 15:44 Hot_Bid wrote:
Unfortunately your analogy does not make sense because a gamer's ID is largely determined by what the fans recognize him as, not what the progamer calls himself. It is not the same thing as a professional sports team moving cities. When proteams change their names (from KTF MagicNs to KT Rolster for example) the entire community calls them the updated name. But when a player selects an ID, it's a much more informal thing and the fans basically decide what to refer to them as.

Thus, you are free to call them whatever you wish, but to many here they will always be Cool, Rainbow, and Boxer. This will always be so in our news posts, in our official TLPD statistics database, and in our forum threads. Get used to it. Cool's main ID here might be interchangeable just because of how awesome "Fruit Dealer" is and how little he accomplished in BW, but Boxer and Rainbow will never be more known on TL than as their original IDs.

In the GSL2, there is no way I'm calling Nada "BnetLagNotKESPA" and July "XtraLargePizza" just because they decide they set those IDs.


Really? The vast majority of fans (Korean, not foreign) refer to many of their players by their real names. In GSL, whenever someone mentioned Fruit Dealer in Korean, either the interviewee or the interpreter said his real name.

Anyway, Fruit Dealer is a special case: Boxer and NaDa have fan clubs and are known even outside the SC circuit; Fruit Dealer had an unremarkable SC1 career. Many people have never even heard of him until the GSL, and a good portion of his new fans will relate to him as Fruit Dealer, not Cool. If Fruit Dealer ends up playing 5+ years of SC2 with that name and completely overshadows his SC1 career, will people still call him Cool? It's like calling Babe Ruth "George" just because that's his birth name.

I think the players change names because they want it to mark a turning point in their life/career, a new leaf perhaps. Tester has gone on the record that he doesn't like that name anymore and wants to be called sSKS. Shouldn't we respect that?

Besides, seeing fans wave around fruit and Tastosis utter a corny fruit-related joke every few minutes is a lot more entertaining than trying to come up with "Cool" puns.

andrea... read what he wrote about Cool. You basically agreed with him on every point


Am I sure I have the knowledge to question an admin? Since when did being an admin mean your smarter than everyone else? You can't question an opinion, he has his opinion and I have mine, if I disagreed with him on something that he believed was fact, then for me to prove my fact I would have to back it up with evidence. However we are not discussing fact, but opinion.
O.Golden_ne
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia204 Posts
October 07 2010 23:27 GMT
#243
epic =] so glad a zerg player won.
Like a baneling in a mineral line
Darkong
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom418 Posts
October 07 2010 23:47 GMT
#244
Awesome vid and a fitting tribute to FruitDealer, looking forwards to the next GSL so much :D
Trolling the Battle.Net forums, the most fun you can have with your pants on.
Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
October 07 2010 23:57 GMT
#245
great write up! really good to relive the most exciting moments of the tournament without watching everything all over again!
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-08 01:13:31
October 08 2010 01:11 GMT
#246
Wow Im so glad a zerg won, even though I play terran. Very very nice job Fruitseller! And good try Rainbow.

edit: fruitdealer
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
October 08 2010 01:16 GMT
#247
I just hope GSL2 has more accessible VODs :{ As a poor overworked college student on the West coast watching the streams is taxing T-T
MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
October 08 2010 01:17 GMT
#248
The award names make me so happy :D

GG Fruit, I'm pumped a zerg won with such style.
Everhate
Profile Joined September 2010
United States640 Posts
October 08 2010 01:32 GMT
#249
Watching this recap makes me wonder how many banelings were slaughtered in the makings of this production/his championship (would be hilarious to get a count...entirely too lazy to add them up myself, but that's a TON of banelings, hah)

Great tournament with storybook-style ending, hope this is a preview of the future of sc2.
tru_power22
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada385 Posts
October 08 2010 02:39 GMT
#250
Sad that Idra didn't win. But I'm not shocked by this out come.
Smoke Errday!
Oxb
Profile Joined August 2010
199 Posts
October 08 2010 05:55 GMT
#251
great write up. Was a good season, can't wait for s2, big names incomming hope they can show some crazy tactics. can't wait.
Kaz.
Profile Joined October 2010
United States69 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-08 14:06:22
October 08 2010 14:05 GMT
#252
These write up's were hilarious, an excellent compliment to some great play. I think my favorite moral so far is that against cool, thors fail to successfully sell fruit at the zerg natural.
Attitude is forever
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
October 08 2010 21:36 GMT
#253
On October 08 2010 08:07 Domonic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2010 20:07 beetlelisk wrote:
On October 07 2010 19:57 Domonic wrote:
On October 07 2010 15:44 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 07 2010 13:13 BradyBunch wrote:
this was not a sc1 tournament. cool didnt win. didnt see any rainbows either. this stuff is very annoying and makes esports look silly. its like calling the Tennessee Titans the Houston Oilers just because thats what people use to say/recognize. moronic. it was stated on gomtv that they wanted to be called a fruit dealer and hopetorture. it shouldnt be this confusing/difficult

Unfortunately your analogy does not make sense because a gamer's ID is largely determined by what the fans recognize him as, not what the progamer calls himself. It is not the same thing as a professional sports team moving cities. When proteams change their names (from KTF MagicNs to KT Rolster for example) the entire community calls them the updated name. But when a player selects an ID, it's a much more informal thing and the fans basically decide what to refer to them as.

Thus, you are free to call them whatever you wish, but to many here they will always be Cool, Rainbow, and Boxer. This will always be so in our news posts, in our official TLPD statistics database, and in our forum threads. Get used to it. Cool's main ID here might be interchangeable just because of how awesome "Fruit Dealer" is and how little he accomplished in BW, but Boxer and Rainbow will never be more known on TL than as their original IDs.

In the GSL2, there is no way I'm calling Nada "BnetLagNotKESPA" and July "XtraLargePizza" just because they decide they set those IDs.


I disagree. Rainbow's career in the brood war genre was nothing extraordinary, and if he wants to change his sn in Starcraft 2, whatever his reasons, we should respect that; and even the korean commentators agree. Boxer will always be boxer because that has always been his sn in brood war, it has been for YEARS, and he has achieved much. Even if he achieves more than what he did in Starcraft 2 than in brood war, he will still be known as Boxer in brood war, and manofoneway in Starcraft 2 out of respect. You are really comparing different things.

Are you sure you have the knowledge required to question an admin?
Old names will keep coming back because there is significant amount of people who recognize them by their old names but aren't familiar with the new ones.
It's similar with nicks people are given in school or at workplace IMO.

You will always hear "HopeTorture aka IntoTheRainbow".

On October 07 2010 18:43 andrea20 wrote:
On October 07 2010 15:44 Hot_Bid wrote:
Unfortunately your analogy does not make sense because a gamer's ID is largely determined by what the fans recognize him as, not what the progamer calls himself. It is not the same thing as a professional sports team moving cities. When proteams change their names (from KTF MagicNs to KT Rolster for example) the entire community calls them the updated name. But when a player selects an ID, it's a much more informal thing and the fans basically decide what to refer to them as.

Thus, you are free to call them whatever you wish, but to many here they will always be Cool, Rainbow, and Boxer. This will always be so in our news posts, in our official TLPD statistics database, and in our forum threads. Get used to it. Cool's main ID here might be interchangeable just because of how awesome "Fruit Dealer" is and how little he accomplished in BW, but Boxer and Rainbow will never be more known on TL than as their original IDs.

In the GSL2, there is no way I'm calling Nada "BnetLagNotKESPA" and July "XtraLargePizza" just because they decide they set those IDs.


Really? The vast majority of fans (Korean, not foreign) refer to many of their players by their real names. In GSL, whenever someone mentioned Fruit Dealer in Korean, either the interviewee or the interpreter said his real name.

Anyway, Fruit Dealer is a special case: Boxer and NaDa have fan clubs and are known even outside the SC circuit; Fruit Dealer had an unremarkable SC1 career. Many people have never even heard of him until the GSL, and a good portion of his new fans will relate to him as Fruit Dealer, not Cool. If Fruit Dealer ends up playing 5+ years of SC2 with that name and completely overshadows his SC1 career, will people still call him Cool? It's like calling Babe Ruth "George" just because that's his birth name.

I think the players change names because they want it to mark a turning point in their life/career, a new leaf perhaps. Tester has gone on the record that he doesn't like that name anymore and wants to be called sSKS. Shouldn't we respect that?

Besides, seeing fans wave around fruit and Tastosis utter a corny fruit-related joke every few minutes is a lot more entertaining than trying to come up with "Cool" puns.

andrea... read what he wrote about Cool. You basically agreed with him on every point


Am I sure I have the knowledge to question an admin? Since when did being an admin mean your smarter than everyone else? You can't question an opinion, he has his opinion and I have mine, if I disagreed with him on something that he believed was fact, then for me to prove my fact I would have to back it up with evidence. However we are not discussing fact, but opinion.

I disagree. Rainbow's career in the brood war genre was nothing extraordinary

Even though TL player database shows he achieved only 1 title I believe his Reaver usage is legendary. You can dislike it and say it was nothing extraordinary for you but you can't deny he has many fans that think otherwise. Nobody gets fans for not being extraordinary.

The point is admin on this site is someone who got his status through extreme dedication and follows SCene for years. Have you followed it and seen the greatest BW plays of Rainbow?
wwww
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
October 08 2010 23:04 GMT
#254
looks like you caught the eye of blizzard!
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/915752
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
BladeRunner
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States407 Posts
October 08 2010 23:30 GMT
#255
So I thought replays wouldn't be released for GSL?

What are these of?

http://www.sc2rep.com/replays/index?search=gsl
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
October 08 2010 23:59 GMT
#256
I would think InCa's play would get an award against Protoss...either the cannon rush or his fail on his 3gate on lost temple and still manage to come out to win with a perfect timed FF at his choke point

anyways I love the awards
Engdrew
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States890 Posts
October 09 2010 00:15 GMT
#257
Thanks for the writeup! Definitely enjoyable to see a Zerg player in the grand finals
.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
October 09 2010 00:30 GMT
#258
Nice writeup, I was skeptical of GSL S1 at first but it definitely delivered.
[TLMS] REBOOT
StormWeapon
Profile Joined July 2010
United States159 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-09 06:34:43
October 09 2010 02:58 GMT
#259
Don't know if this was mentioned but the video is linked in Bnet now.
Edit: oh, just saw my fail *facepalm*
Tyrant Potato
CidO
Profile Joined June 2010
United States695 Posts
October 11 2010 23:43 GMT
#260
That music video for some reason, maybe as a zerg player and just a fan/supporter of esports, is really moving.
:P
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