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Arbiter[frolix]
Profile Joined January 2004
United Kingdom2674 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-27 09:08:33
June 27 2004 08:46 GMT
#1
Game One: Iloveoov (Choi Yeon Seong) v Zeus (Jeon Tae Gyu) on Namja Iyagi

The Oov versus Zeus match-up has provided its fair share of spectacular, unforeseen events, with Oov's frying firebat finish knocking his opponent sideways in game one, followed by a Herculean effort from Zeus last week, when he utterly dominated the seemingly invincible Oov from start to finish to level the tie. However, the two players had one last jaw dropping surprise for the on the edge of their seats audience in game three. A back and forth game, in which for long periods it was unclear who had the advantage, was finally drawing to a close as a fading Zeus, desperately teching to carriers, saw Oov's terran army of tanks and vultures laying waste to his main. Zeus must have been mere moments away from resigning the game when it finished in the most shocking fashion...

...with Zeus dropping, yes dropping, like a Battle.net lamer. Of course in reality the protoss pro had nothing to do with the unexpected event, as OGN's system simply failed. The cameras zoomed in on Oov's end-of-game stats screen, confirming beyond all doubt that the game was indeed over, also revealing the significant margin by which he had out-built his protoss opponent. The OGN announcers stuttered and stammered and fidgeted in their seats before finally revealing that under OSL rules the game would have to be replayed later in the evening. More on this drama soon.


Game Two: July Zerg (Park Seong Joon) v Xellos (Seo Ji Hoon) on Mercury

With Oov and Zeus off stage and the OGN system up and running again, it was time for the final representative of the swarm to resume his battle with the Perfect Terran. July had lost his unbeaten record in game one but stormed, or should that be swarmed, back last week with a flawless hive-tech demolition of a bewildered Xellos. Could July Zerg make it to the semis?

July (zerg at the six o'clock position) opened with a standard 12-hatch, while Xellos (terran at nine) countered with the expected double barracks. July Zerg scouted his terran opponent with a single drone and looked to harass a barracks-building SCV. Besides a little micro trickery from both players, with July looking to knock off the SCV and Xellos working to save it while continuing his construction work, there was little early contact between the two forces. July used the time to morph his lair and start work on a hydralisk den as Xellos began his academy. Having pulled together a small force of marines, medics and firebats, Xellos sent them on a mission to probe the zerg base. July scouted them on en route and quickly began laying down sunken colonies at his expo. At the same time he sneaked two slow-moving hydras towards the top of the map, unbeknown to the Perfect Terran, who must have thought his force holding at the edge of the zerg expansion was both threatening and containing his zerg opponent. As the the two hidden hydras reached the top of the map and turned back towards the terran base they started to morph into lurkers.

Xellos, seemingly satisfied that all was relatively quiet on the zerg front, threw up a factory and began work on a starport. Meanwhile July Zerg's unseen lurkers burrowed under outside the terran base. Until this point battle had hardly been joined and there little sign of what was about to occur. Nevertheless, when Xellos' fall came it was hard and fast. July broke out of his main with a lurker/ling army, scattering the surprised terran forces. July took the game by the throat, zeroing straight in on the terran main. Catching a shocked Xellos preparing his forces for a drop, July's lurkers broke through the undermanned terran defensive perimeter and into the main. He took aim at the comsat station but, quickly realising that the terran army had simply melted away and detection was irrelevant, broke into the mineral line and ended Xellos' campaign.

July Zerg 2 - 1 Xellos

Xellos seemed to have the measure of his zerg opponent in game one. However, games two and three revealed previously unseen flaws in the Perfect Terran as he was comprehensively outplayed in both games.


Game Three: Silent_Control (Na Do Hyeon) v Kingdom (Park Yong Ook) on Requiem

While Oov's flame-fuelled demolition of Zeus on opening night may have been the most spectacular game of this Starleague so far, Kingdom's inexpicable decisions in last week's loss to Control have definitely generated the most debate. Whatever the truth of the matter, the match was tied, with a semifinal spot at stake on Requiem.

Control (terran at three o'clock) managed to throw up his wall quick enough to stop the scouting probe of Kingdom (protoss at 12) getting inside his base and tried to settle into his two factory build. Kingdom, building out of two gates, applied strong pressure to the terran wall. With his cybernetics core working on range upgrade for his forthcoming dragoons, Kingdom sent a zealot down to attack Control's depot. Control lifted his barracks and persued the lone zeal back up the map with three marines and a couple of SCVs, until a second zealot joined the fray, forcing the terrans to flee back behind their wall. With the arrival of the first protoss dragoon the situation became uncertain enough for Control to construct a bunker behind his wall, securing his perimeter until his mechanical units arrived.

With protoss units stationed outside his base, Control decided to finesse a few vultures behind the lines but attempts at harassment proved ineffective and Kingdom cleared out the expected minefield left behind. Kingdom at last chose to take his natural expansion, surprisingly late. Control continued his attempts to throw his protoss opponent off balance with a vulture drop to the 12 main, obliterating a few probes, and taking his natural in the meantime. Now with three dropships at his disposal, Control tried a tank drop behind the protoss expansion, forcing Kingdom to expend considerable energy shuttling dragoons and zealots over and dropping them next to the attacking tanks. Kingdom still appeared confident and counterattacked the terran natural with his dragoons but was forced to retreat by sieging tanks.

By now Control was working hard to expand his perimeter and increase his factory count but looked comfortable. Kingdom was still relying on a large force of dragoons but, as in the second game of the match, was curiously light on zealots. Kingdom was expanding to seven and Control to six, although a few shuttled-in zeals thwarted Control's hopes of setting up a new base at the base of the map. Nevertheless, with Kingdom's attention focussed elsewhere, Control chose this moment to start his push up the map towards the protoss main. Battle was finally joined between the two main forces as Kingdom attempted to overwhelm the terran fast entrenching terran army with weight of numbers, his massive army of dragoons ignoring the deadly tank fire and, with the assistance of a few zealots dropping out of swooping-in shuttles, stopped the terran advance in its tracks, albeit with heavy losses.

A micro battle ensued at the protoss natural as Control showed he was not going to let up in his efforts to harass the protoss mineral supply. Keeping Kingdom occupied, Control reinforced his troops and tried a second advance. This time the depleted protoss army was the one overwhelmed, as Control's ever-increasing force of vultures shielded his mighty siege tanks and allowed them to rain destruction down on the protoss force as it attempted to break the push. The tide had inexorably turned against Kingdom as he was forced to flee towards his natural. Even the arrival of a small force of high templar could do nothing to stall the terran juggernaut as it rolled over the protoss expansion and into the main. Control was turning the screw, expanding to six and launching simultaneous assaults on the protoss main and Kingdom's new expansion at the nine o'clock position. As a final desperation dark templar attempt to save the new expansion failed, a sickened Kingdom bowed out of the Starleague.

Silent_Control 2 - 1 Kingdom

Few would have believed it possible. Having looked unbeatable in the group stage and utterly destroying Silent_Control in the opening game of the match, Kingdom suddenly collapsed. Two soulless performances, questionable decision-making and, seemingly, a lack of ideas, condemned the Devil Toss to consecutive defeats and an early exit from the competition.


Game Four: [Red]Nada (Lee Yoon Yeol) v [Oops]Reach (Park Jeong Seok) on Nostalgia

Reach had looked impressive in the group stages until he came up against Oov, then dropped the first game against Nada in this match with strangely lightweight play, merely going through the motions and putting up little resistance as Nada's first real attack rumbled over his natural. Nada's surprising decision to go for two barracks on Requiem last week allowed the protoss legend back into the match. Reach had little trouble dismantling a makeshift terran army to level the match. Fittingly, the decider produced the best game of the match.

Nada (terran at seven o'clock) walled in and scouted diagnally across the map to immediately locate Reach (protoss at one). Reach was warping in a curiously-placed pylon at the very bottom of his main plateau but if he had any thoughts of some kind of unorthodox secret build he would have dismissed them quickly as a thorough Nada scouted the entire main and saw the secret structure. Reach decided on double gate ranged dragoons, with Nada building two factories behind his wall.

With the arrival of his first dragoon, Reach tried some early pressure on the terran wall. At the same time his scouting probe made two pylons to block off the lefthand mini-plateau and stop any surprise vulture escape attempts, the same tactic Zeus used effectively against Oov last week. However, as his pressure on Nada's wall dissipated with the arrival of the first terran siege tank, Reach seemed to lose concentration momentarily as Nada zipped a group of vultures out past immobile dragoons to wing towards the protoss base. Reach was playing catch-up, his dragoons loping back to defend his main. The vultures dropped some delaying mines and zeroed in on the protoss probes. The protoss defenders circled the nexus and headed towards the vulture squadron. As the dragoons started to pick off the suicide squad, the whole game suddenly hung in the balance for Reach. With his probes clustering around the upper edge of his mineral line, a dangerously-placed spider mine popped up out of the ground and targeted a nearby dragoon. Moments from disaster, probes stranded within the blast zone, Reach's dragoons neutralised the mine and destroyed the last vultures.

Even as Nada had been taking the battle to his protoss opponent, Reach had declined his natural and started an expansion at 11. The purpose of this secret expo quickly became clear, as Reach warped in two early stargates and a fleet beacon. The audience gasped a the sight of the stargates, with Nada completely unaware of the expo site and no sign of either a starport or armoury in his main. However, Nada's barracks was floating agonisingly slowly up the left side of the map towards the unseen protoss base. Tension was mounting in the audience. Would Nada identify the growing threat before it was too late?

Nada took his natural and at last started work on an armoury. The first two carriers arrived at the protoss stargates and started to glide down the map. As the carriers passed through the very edge of the terran barracks' vision range, the OGN cameras flashed to a shot of Nada, catching the jolt of electricity that passed through him as he caught sight of the carriers for the first time. His fingers started racing even faster over the keyboard as he began furiously building turrets to protect his growing tank force. The two carriers approached the battle zone but Reach thought better of an all out attack as he saw the veritable forest of turrets that had gone up around Nada's army. With his factories now producing goliath after goliath, Nada started to advance before the size of the carrier fleet became unmanagable. Reach's carriers had been lured out of position momentarily as they pursued Nada's floating barracks, while Nada first tried unsuccessfully to expand at six, then started a command centre at the nine o'clock position.

Battle was joined as Nada tried to advance up the map towards the protoss position. Tanks and goliaths clashed with dragoons and carriers. There were gasps as Nada destroyed first one, then a second, carrier. It looked as though Nada was making progress against the combined protoss forces but a renewed dragoon/carrier assault broke his army and sent his tanks fleeing. Reach kept up the pressure, persuing the terran army as his own forces were joined by the first dark templar.

Reach was now in control of the map and sent just a single zealot towards Nada's expansion at nine. Nada was utterly unable to defend his SCVs, with the expansion completely isolated from his main. As he savaged the new expo, Reach closed in on Nada's natural. Nada was only just hanging onto his position thanks to the incessant stream of goliaths coming out of his factories. However, with more dragoons and zealots arriving from his expanding array of gateways, plus a growing carrier fleet, Reach renewed his assault. Nada's natural teetered for a moment... then fell. Dragoons and carriers surged up Nada's ramp and into the main, sending Nada out of the Starleague.

[Red]Nada 1 - 2 [Oops]Reach

Flawless timing and decision-making from Reach, who survived a single mine-induced scare to comprehensively outplay Nada. Nada's scouting was not what one would expect from a player of his calibre and he was still not fully prepared by the time Reach's carriers made their first appearance on the battlefield.


Game Five: Iloveoov (Choi Yeon Seong) v Zeus (Jeon Tae Gyu) on Namja Iyagi

A match that had produced so many ups and downs, so many shocks and surprises ended in anti-climax. Zeus escaped inevitable defeat earlier in the evening thanks to computer failure and was given a second chance. Oov did not let him take advantage of that second chance.

Iloveoov (terran at 10 o'clock) opened with double factory and double vulture upgrades, Zeus (protoss at eight) with single gateway dragoons and observers. From the moment his first combat forces started to emerge from his factories Iloveoov played like a man possessed. His first force of vultures harassed Zeus' small opening army and suddenly Iloveoov was surging towards the protoss main with a strike force of four marines, a few tanks and a flock of vultures. It was immediately obvious that Zeus was utterly unprepared for such an early attack. Iloveoov stationed his tanks at the bottom of Zeus' ramp and set up an ironclad containment. Minutes into the game, it was already desperation stakes for Zeus as he sent his probes out to try to break the terran hold on his base. Probe after probe exploded. Zeus sent more. Oov shrugged them off and broke into the protoss main.

Iloveoov 2 - 1 Zeus

Iloveoov simply decided enough was enough and utterly obliterated a flabbergasted Zeus, who looked like he had been hit by a train.

So, all four semi-finalists have been decided. Iloveoov will play July Zerg on Friday July 2. Will July Zerg live up to his name or will Iloveoov continue his seeminly inexorable advance to the final? Silent_Control will play [Oops]Reach one week later. The unfancied Control has already knocked over one of the favourites but can he really top Reach over a five game match?
We are vigilant.
Cpt. MorgaN
Profile Joined May 2004
United States86 Posts
June 27 2004 08:54 GMT
#2
great reports. I'm so excited for the final 4 eventhough I only got 1/4 liquibets. Hoiw did Kingdom lose?!?!?
BooZe
Madox-101
Profile Joined May 2004
Malaysia128 Posts
June 27 2004 09:12 GMT
#3
ILOVEOOV IS A MONSTER!!!!! JULYZERG GONNA TREMBLE FACING HIM
XDawn
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Canada4040 Posts
June 27 2004 09:23 GMT
#4
w00t! JulyZerG! REPRESENT
Use it or lose it
tenbagger
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1289 Posts
June 27 2004 09:43 GMT
#5
I would love to see a pvz final of july vs reach
Milzo
Profile Joined March 2004
France656 Posts
June 27 2004 09:47 GMT
#6
Yeah Reach's gonna make it no problem. Harder to tell for July vs Iloveoov 'cause July seems to be in really good shape and could create the upset.

Nice reports but I think that Zeus would have won the interrupted game. It was very tight, so you really shouldn't say "Zeus escaped inevitable defeat" imo.
Milzo
Profile Joined March 2004
France656 Posts
June 27 2004 09:48 GMT
#7
On June 27 2004 18:43 tenbagger wrote:
I would love to see a pvz final of july vs reach


Yeah that'd be nice.
ShOoTiNg_SpElLs
Profile Joined July 2003
Korea (South)690 Posts
June 27 2004 09:54 GMT
#8
I just want Reach to make it into the finals
Arbiter[frolix]
Profile Joined January 2004
United Kingdom2674 Posts
June 27 2004 10:05 GMT
#9
On June 27 2004 18:47 Milzo wrote:
Yeah Reach's gonna make it no problem. Harder to tell for July vs Iloveoov 'cause July seems to be in really good shape and could create the upset.

Nice reports but I think that Zeus would have won the interrupted game. It was very tight, so you really shouldn't say "Zeus escaped inevitable defeat" imo.


I have only been able to watch that game one time because OGN have not posted the VOD on their site. However, it seemed to me, when I watched it live, that with Oov's forces destroying Zeus' main and Zeus having almost nothing in the way of combat units the game was basically over.

I will let the rest of the community judge and edit my report if appropriate.
We are vigilant.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
June 27 2004 10:10 GMT
#10
I'm so glad oov won though. It would have been stupid if oov lost after an obvious win that first game. Maybe Zeus felt the same way and went easier on that game than normal, but we will actually never know.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
June 27 2004 10:14 GMT
#11
On June 27 2004 19:05 Arbiter[frolix] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2004 18:47 Milzo wrote:
Yeah Reach's gonna make it no problem. Harder to tell for July vs Iloveoov 'cause July seems to be in really good shape and could create the upset.

Nice reports but I think that Zeus would have won the interrupted game. It was very tight, so you really shouldn't say "Zeus escaped inevitable defeat" imo.


I have only been able to watch that game one time because OGN have not posted the VOD on their site. However, it seemed to me, when I watched it live, that with Oov's forces destroying Zeus' main and Zeus having almost nothing in the way of combat units the game was basically over.

I will let the rest of the community judge and edit my report if appropriate.

There's no doubt that oov would have won. Give me the replay and let's save it where the game gets disconnected. Then let me play for oov. I can say with confidence that I'd beat an almost already beaten Zeus at that point. He had what... 10 dragoon... 1-2 carriers with intercepters still building... and a main that was blowing up before his very eyes. Oov still had money coming in from his natrual and a groudn assault force of tanks and vultures that weren't gonig to be mopped up quickly enough by the carriers to prevent them from possibly steam rolling over Zeus's dragoon force that was defending his only expansion. On top of that, oov could send reinforcements and pretty safely expand knowing that Zeus has no more production buildings and no more tech, so the most he can expect would be Zealots. I also think that Zeus didn't have any gas at his only expansion, which would only allow him to get zealots until he made a new expansion at the main of 1 o clock. This would take too long and he wouldn't last that long up against a monster like oov.
Arbiter[frolix]
Profile Joined January 2004
United Kingdom2674 Posts
June 27 2004 10:26 GMT
#12
That is the scenario I myself was working to.
We are vigilant.
homoerectus_
Profile Joined September 2003
149 Posts
June 27 2004 11:13 GMT
#13
yes, oov is not themarine.
oov would not make the same mistakes as themarine.
in a word, oov is better than the marine.
he would not let a couple of dt stop his massive army from destroying zeus' shit.
IndexFing
Profile Joined May 2004
100 Posts
June 27 2004 11:15 GMT
#14
It was abundantly clear that iloveoov had that won. oov had zeus' gateways outnumbered with tanks and vultures (and hence effectively shut down) while zeus only had about 2 carriers to show for it.

You could from oov's body language that he knew he just got a royal shaft and was pissed off. It took every ounce of restraint from the gorilla terran to keep from shouting over his monitor @ zeus:

EIGHTEeeEEeEeEN NOM A!! ZOOOoS EQUALS MAP DOG!!!
MarChxLordaerOn
Profile Joined June 2004
United States49 Posts
June 27 2004 11:24 GMT
#15
Go july ZerG!!! z-zone JuLy its his time to win OGN !!!
SC is a Good Game But war3 is more fun =]
Refrain[FriZ]
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada4337 Posts
June 27 2004 11:25 GMT
#16
How did Zeus drop?? WTF thats gay their comps suck ass.
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
June 27 2004 11:26 GMT
#17
Damnit! I wanted Kingdom in.... sad he didnt play his usual self. GJ on Reach tho, and it's good that Zeus lost after his disc.
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
June 27 2004 12:08 GMT
#18
On June 27 2004 20:15 IndexFing wrote:

EIGHTEeeEEeEeEN NOM A!! ZOOOoS EQUALS MAP DOG!!!


Rofl.

All in all very nice turnout (very well written too!). Although I like Xellos, I was cheering for the lone Zerg underdog.. although I like Oov much more than JulyZerg, just the fact that I'd like to see a Z do well has me not really caring either way who win, and I think it'll be close. And assuming Reach doesn't make too many mistakes, I think we'll be seeing a Protoss in the finals. And I'd be perfectly happy with either TvP or ZvP as the final matchup.

Great reports Frolix!
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homoerectus_
Profile Joined September 2003
149 Posts
June 27 2004 13:24 GMT
#19
10 bucks ogn did it to 1. garner more interest 2. give zeus another chance

10 bucks ogn would not dog the match if zeus had it won

10 bucks testie would win wcg if it was an online tournament
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
June 27 2004 14:29 GMT
#20
im wowed by the reports. ^__^
Moonlight Shadow
hasu
Profile Joined January 2004
Bulgaria79 Posts
June 27 2004 15:52 GMT
#21
Pity for Nada and Kingdom. Thanks God Oov is still there. He and Reach keep the hope for a grand final spirit.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
June 27 2004 16:35 GMT
#22
Oh, I mentioned this in another topic, but it seems there is software out there that allows you to save game while watching a replay and you can just play the game from the save file for yourself. Why doesn't OGN or MBC know about this and if they do, why don't they use it for disconnects such as the oov game?
IndexFing
Profile Joined May 2004
100 Posts
June 27 2004 17:30 GMT
#23
Because they don't have the power of klogon to tell them these things
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
June 27 2004 17:36 GMT
#24
hmmm...control and reach robbed me of 2 points. that's 2/4 for the 3rd week in a row :\
GrandSmurf
Profile Joined July 2003
Netherlands462 Posts
June 27 2004 19:06 GMT
#25
awsome report. Arbiter[frolix] for president
One time that happened and I just stopped everything, selected the offending SCV, hit Cancel, moved it over to my Barracks, made a Marine, had the Marine shoot it to death, then left the game.
Milzo
Profile Joined March 2004
France656 Posts
June 27 2004 20:33 GMT
#26
On June 27 2004 19:14 Klogon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2004 19:05 Arbiter[frolix] wrote:
On June 27 2004 18:47 Milzo wrote:
Yeah Reach's gonna make it no problem. Harder to tell for July vs Iloveoov 'cause July seems to be in really good shape and could create the upset.

Nice reports but I think that Zeus would have won the interrupted game. It was very tight, so you really shouldn't say "Zeus escaped inevitable defeat" imo.


I have only been able to watch that game one time because OGN have not posted the VOD on their site. However, it seemed to me, when I watched it live, that with Oov's forces destroying Zeus' main and Zeus having almost nothing in the way of combat units the game was basically over.

I will let the rest of the community judge and edit my report if appropriate.

There's no doubt that oov would have won. Give me the replay and let's save it where the game gets disconnected. Then let me play for oov. I can say with confidence that I'd beat an almost already beaten Zeus at that point. He had what... 10 dragoon... 1-2 carriers with intercepters still building... and a main that was blowing up before his very eyes. Oov still had money coming in from his natrual and a groudn assault force of tanks and vultures that weren't gonig to be mopped up quickly enough by the carriers to prevent them from possibly steam rolling over Zeus's dragoon force that was defending his only expansion. On top of that, oov could send reinforcements and pretty safely expand knowing that Zeus has no more production buildings and no more tech, so the most he can expect would be Zealots. I also think that Zeus didn't have any gas at his only expansion, which would only allow him to get zealots until he made a new expansion at the main of 1 o clock. This would take too long and he wouldn't last that long up against a monster like oov.


All right, you're probably right.

But Oov had very little money coming in since there was no command center at his natural. And Zeus was waiting Oov's army on high ground above a ramp and Oov would have suffered heavy losses (maybe lose the battle imo)if he wanted to go through that, and he had to, because he was earning a lot less money than Zeus.

Also, the fact that Zeus looked so crushed after the second game and his quick loss reinforced me in the opinion that he believed he could have won the first.

Anyway...
Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
June 27 2004 23:38 GMT
#27
zeus sucking of late =[
Memory lane in nice
IcedEarth
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States3661 Posts
June 28 2004 01:48 GMT
#28
I've always liked Iloveoov. He was one of my favorites since I saw a few reps of him vs someone called ElysianFields, but I never had a clue he would grow this huge. Go Iloveoov Fighting~
Guardian guardian guardian of the blind
Milzo
Profile Joined March 2004
France656 Posts
June 28 2004 02:31 GMT
#29
On June 28 2004 08:38 Resonate wrote:
zeus sucking of late =[


Losing in quarter finals 2-1 to Iloveoov is not so bad...
tfeign
Profile Joined June 2004
United States2980 Posts
June 28 2004 04:37 GMT
#30
Arbiter[frolix] = Best of all current reporters.
RuGbUg
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2347 Posts
June 28 2004 05:02 GMT
#31
i'm more disappointed that nada lost because of his seemingly unlucky playing that game
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Make7UpYours
Profile Joined October 2003
893 Posts
June 28 2004 06:39 GMT
#32
Nada never does well though in OGN.
Zoom
Profile Joined January 2004
1111 Posts
June 28 2004 08:01 GMT
#33
hasn't he won starleague twice..?
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Make7UpYours
Profile Joined October 2003
893 Posts
June 28 2004 10:08 GMT
#34
He won the 2003 Panasonic OGN (the first one he qualified for), but after that it was always top 16 or top 8 finishes. That might be pretty good for most pros but for Nada it's somewhat below what's expected of him.
dan1st
Profile Joined April 2004
Malaysia399 Posts
June 28 2004 14:14 GMT
#35
On June 28 2004 01:35 Klogon wrote:
Oh, I mentioned this in another topic, but it seems there is software out there that allows you to save game while watching a replay and you can just play the game from the save file for yourself. Why doesn't OGN or MBC know about this and if they do, why don't they use it for disconnects such as the oov game?


For real? Can you post the link to that program or that other topic?
darksilver
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada37 Posts
June 28 2004 15:30 GMT
#36
Does anyone have a link for the replays from these games?
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ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
June 29 2004 04:12 GMT
#37
On June 29 2004 00:30 darksilver wrote:
Does anyone have a link for the replays from these games?


no.

Check the VOD thread, you will most likely find the games there.
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ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
June 29 2004 04:21 GMT
#38
On June 27 2004 19:14 Klogon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2004 19:05 Arbiter[frolix] wrote:
On June 27 2004 18:47 Milzo wrote:
Yeah Reach's gonna make it no problem. Harder to tell for July vs Iloveoov 'cause July seems to be in really good shape and could create the upset.

Nice reports but I think that Zeus would have won the interrupted game. It was very tight, so you really shouldn't say "Zeus escaped inevitable defeat" imo.


I have only been able to watch that game one time because OGN have not posted the VOD on their site. However, it seemed to me, when I watched it live, that with Oov's forces destroying Zeus' main and Zeus having almost nothing in the way of combat units the game was basically over.

I will let the rest of the community judge and edit my report if appropriate.

There's no doubt that oov would have won. Give me the replay and let's save it where the game gets disconnected. Then let me play for oov. I can say with confidence that I'd beat an almost already beaten Zeus at that point. He had what... 10 dragoon... 1-2 carriers with intercepters still building... and a main that was blowing up before his very eyes. Oov still had money coming in from his natrual and a groudn assault force of tanks and vultures that weren't gonig to be mopped up quickly enough by the carriers to prevent them from possibly steam rolling over Zeus's dragoon force that was defending his only expansion. On top of that, oov could send reinforcements and pretty safely expand knowing that Zeus has no more production buildings and no more tech, so the most he can expect would be Zealots. I also think that Zeus didn't have any gas at his only expansion, which would only allow him to get zealots until he made a new expansion at the main of 1 o clock. This would take too long and he wouldn't last that long up against a monster like oov.


Yea I watched that game live also - oov had it won already and Zeus was just keeping his head over water.

And a few notes about the Reach/NaDa match that Arbiter did not mention in his reports:

- NaDa's first 4 vultures got free entrance to Reach's main - or almost. In a classic Reach move, the protoss legend saw that his goons was merely seconds away from finishing, and neatly placed two probes on his ramp, stalling the vultures long enough to finish his two building goons and prevent the obvious mining of his gateways. A pylon placed behind his minerals saved his probes more than the few goons did.

- A lot of people was surprised by NaDa's bad scouting - but it was in reality Reach who did an excellent job by placing goons in every possible path and stopping all scv's sent out by nada.

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darksilver
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada37 Posts
June 29 2004 18:28 GMT
#39
But VODS take too much space in my small HD, plus it downloads so slow. Don't they have replays? I sure hope so.
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ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
June 29 2004 22:02 GMT
#40
On June 30 2004 03:28 darksilver wrote:
But VODS take too much space in my small HD, plus it downloads so slow. Don't they have replays? I sure hope so.


Sorry man, pro leagues don't release replays.
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darksilver
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada37 Posts
July 01 2004 06:24 GMT
#41
Damn
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