EPTKeSPA responds to Blizzard - Page 11
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routine
United States40 Posts
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Maaku
United Kingdom142 Posts
On May 31 2010 21:31 fallingdream wrote: Hahahahaha, so much horseshit it makes me laugh. - 12 programming teams to come together to "strongly oppose" blizz. made me rofl so much, 12 teams? really kespa? try more like 3, sparkyz, mbcheroes and skt, all of the rest don't give 2 shits about you. - oh noes teh fanz!!11 where were the fans you kespa killed gomtv tournaments? you did not only killed the sc tournament, but also the wow and war3 also. what about those fans? - starcraft is blizzards game, deal with it or gtfo. saying it like "well shucks yo, we helped blizz get money because of us", really? and what did kespa get for their work? candy? hmmm I could have sworn they also got big $$$ out of it, silly me. - logical discussion about the growth of esports eh? hmmm, maybe they could care to explain where was the logic behind killing a tournament which hosted and promoted THREE games. I'd love to hear it, hypocrits. - oh noez teh fanz!!! v2.0 Dear kespa, if you weren't so full of shit and throw in the fans when it bests suit you, and if you weren't being so fucking retarded and full of spastic ppl, be it chairman and high executives or the common idiotic referees, maybe I would have believed the shit you say. /Thread they hide behind the fans and esports growth when they have already proven to stand its way off not just sc but wc3 and wow to. It just a sob story to get the general public on there side, fair enough you broadcast the game but to also go and sell it as your broadcasting rights is just so funny to hear. Ima go stream english premier league via skysports on the internet and charge people to watch it! | ||
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zimz
United States510 Posts
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alkampfer
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--- I will hate them FOREVER for this, i won't buy another activision blizzard game for ALL my life and i'll advice ALL my friends to doing so. There is still BW and there are other games... i'll go to EVE online. Cya wow.And yes... i'm not buying SC2... i don't wanna be blizzard bitch. I hope they'll fail hard on the game. And Bnet 2.0 to be EMPTY. I know it's almost impossible but i'd be sooo happy ... they deserve a lesson. Blizzard BOYCOTT | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On May 31 2010 21:31 fallingdream wrote: Hahahahaha, so much horseshit it makes me laugh. - 12 programming teams to come together to "strongly oppose" blizz. made me rofl so much, 12 teams? really kespa? try more like 3, sparkyz, mbcheroes and skt, all of the rest don't give 2 shits about you. - oh noes teh fanz!!11 where were the fans you kespa killed gomtv tournaments? you did not only killed the sc tournament, but also the wow and war3 also. what about those fans? - starcraft is blizzards game, deal with it or gtfo. saying it like "well shucks yo, we helped blizz get money because of us", really? and what did kespa get for their work? candy? hmmm I could have sworn they also got big $$$ out of it, silly me. - logical discussion about the growth of esports eh? hmmm, maybe they could care to explain where was the logic behind killing a tournament which hosted and promoted THREE games. I'd love to hear it, hypocrits. - oh noez teh fanz!!! v2.0 Dear kespa, if you weren't so full of shit and throw in the fans when it bests suit you, and if you weren't being so fucking retarded and full of spastic ppl, be it chairman and high executives or the common idiotic referees, maybe I would have believed the shit you say. You're so hilarious. | ||
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Dreamer.T
United States3584 Posts
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
- KeSPA: Through the Starcraft Leagues Blizzard gained an increase in sales and worldwide reputation. Even though Blizzard has been the greatest beneficiary from eSports, Blizzard has never supported eSports. This is such fucking bullshit. Blizzard did far more than any other gaming company did to support esports. Quite honestly, before WoW's success it would be unthinkable for a gaming company to drive their own competitive scene. Blizzard put huge bucks down for the GOM event and KeSPA did everything in its power to squash it. Even before then you had Blizzcon and the Blizzard WWI. Blizzard has done NOTHING to stunt the growth of esports. The way they have to deal with KeSPA for SC2 is regrettable because we all love OSL/MSL and the proleague, it is still a necessity. In my own opinion this is all glorious. Pay the piper KeSPA, you've been getting free tunes for way too long. | ||
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onewingedmoogle
Canada434 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
It's obvious Blizzard wants full control of e-Sports and honestly they don't know what they're getting themselves into. I don't see KeSPA complying and stopping operations after August. If this does go to court, I don't see how Blizzard can win. However, KeSPA have violated the NDA based off negligence. They'll be held responsible for that. You guys create the product. How we use the product is another story. | ||
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heishe
Germany2284 Posts
I mean... all of you guys in here make good points, kespa are kind of asshole-ish, cowardly, go behind the back of fans-ish, but then again, it really sounds like Blizzard made some ridiculous demands. | ||
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mustache
Switzerland309 Posts
On May 31 2010 21:54 alkampfer wrote: --- While the situation already seems like it's about IP rights, but rather than a problem with IP rights, Blizzard shows extreme greed that is beyond common sense and in order to accomplish this Blizzard is shaking the future of Korean eSports. --- I will hate them FOREVER for this, i won't buy another activision blizzard game for ALL my life and i'll advice ALL my friends to doing so. There is still BW and there are other games... i'll go to EVE online. Cya wow.And yes... i'm not buying SC2... i don't wanna be blizzard bitch. I hope they'll fail hard on the game. And Bnet 2.0 to be EMPTY. I know it's almost impossible but i'd be sooo happy ... they deserve a lesson. Blizzard BOYCOTT when will people understand that blizzard is a company. A company's primary goal is to make money. shocking isn't it? Do you really think everyone at blizzard is just a game loving nerd that wants to please the fans? Think again. And do you really believe Kespa is just there for the fans? I guess that's half way true. At least fans that get them money. As soons as the fans are GOM fans they don't count anymore. Please, Kespa is out for the cash as much as blizzard is, and you know what, there's nothing wrong with that. One way or another e-sports wont die out. The pros wont get worse, and the fans will still be fans. If there's a market to organize tournies and see pros play then nothing will happen. If there is no market, then it WILL die out. Simple supply/demand. And afaik (someone confirm please?) when you accept blizzards terms and conditions, you accept that everything created with their product belongs to them. Replays maps etc. | ||
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
On May 31 2010 22:17 heishe wrote: i literally have no idea what to think now... It's pretty much impossible to, as of now it is simply a he said she said contest. I'm just giving Blizzard the benefit of the doubt because they don't have nearly as many dings on their history file. | ||
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ymirheim
Sweden300 Posts
On May 31 2010 22:17 heishe wrote: i literally have no idea what to think now... I mean... all of you guys in here make good points, kespa are kind of asshole-ish, cowardly, go behind the back of fans-ish, but then again, it really sounds like Blizzard made some ridiculous demands. Well, demands are only ridiculous if there is no one willing to accept them. Since Gom did, then clearly Blizzard wasn't too unreasonable. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
On May 31 2010 22:22 ymirheim wrote: Well, demands are only ridiculous if there is no one willing to accept them. Since Gom did, then clearly Blizzard wasn't too unreasonable. If I were a betting man, I'd bet that the demands Blizzard made of Gretech are different from the ones they made of Kespa. | ||
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dybydx
Canada1764 Posts
On May 31 2010 22:19 keV. wrote: It's pretty much impossible to, as of now it is simply a he said she said contest. I'm just giving Blizzard the benefit of the doubt because they don't have nearly as many dings on their history file. You might want to read this article before you give "Blizzard" that benefit. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=128252 | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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dybydx
Canada1764 Posts
On May 31 2010 22:22 ymirheim wrote: Well, demands are only ridiculous if there is no one willing to accept them. Since Gom did, then clearly Blizzard wasn't too unreasonable. the terms for GOM is not the same terms for KeSPA. at least not in practical terms. GOM did not run esports (ie paid players), they ran ad-hoc tournaments (ie you win, u get money, or else 0) asking GOM to pay... say 10% gross revenue as royalty is not the same as asking KeSPA/MBC/OGN for 10%. basically with GOM (but without KeSPA), we are back to the pre-boxer days of SC. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On May 31 2010 22:04 keV. wrote: Blizzard put huge bucks down for the GOM event and KeSPA did everything in its power to squash it. Pringles or any other starleague sponsor has supported esports about as much as Blizzard has. Supporting tourneys is enough for an amateur scene but in terms of the professionals blizzard has done next to nothing. Gom was putting too much of a burden on player schedules with 3 leagues and proleague all running so something had to go and web television was the clear 3rd. On May 31 2010 22:04 keV. wrote: Blizzard has done NOTHING to stunt the growth of esports. Until now. On May 31 2010 22:04 keV. wrote: The way they have to deal with KeSPA for SC2 is regrettable because we all love OSL/MSL and the proleague, it is still a necessity. Why is it a necessity? The Korean scene has been amazing in the promotion of SC1 and SC2 would be the same. Kespa is willing to pay royalties whilst Blizzard spouts clandestine demands for total control far beyond their rights as game designers and their abilities as esport organisers. Blizzard's investment in the Korean scene has been a joke and now they want it all just to make a quick buck. KespA re-invests profits in the scene and functions purely as an advertiser for blizzard and the company's that comprise the pro-teams. It sickens me that Americans like yourself see this greedy, short term power play as glorious. I'll be laughing when Activision-Blizzard shits all over its remaining naive fanboys for the $$$. | ||
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SirazTV
United States209 Posts
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