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[OSL] Semi-Final: Flash vs Pure - Page 3

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Wi)nD
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada719 Posts
May 10 2010 19:09 GMT
#41
flash is such a beast
plan3t
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada75 Posts
May 10 2010 20:03 GMT
#42

In-flight entertainment...

Today, we actually have a movie. Watch it on a tiny screen with some dinky headphones for the full Korean Air experience.

The movie is called: "The Best Game of 2010 So Far"
Starring: Gu Seung Hoon (Hiya), Yoon Yong Tae (Free).
Directed by: Hana Daetoo Securities MSL.

Yes, it's from our rivals over at the MSL, but this game is not only too good to miss, but it would be a crime not advertise it through every venue available to me.


Oh my God, thank you for recommending this match.
And here I thought I was watching good TvP in the OSL...
That was amazing. Everyone check out this game.
C0rrupt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States57 Posts
May 10 2010 20:29 GMT
#43
Looks like Flash just might win this
The corruption has begun
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-10 20:39:13
May 10 2010 20:37 GMT
#44
Uhm... Are the ratings for each match relative to the players skill?
If not, it's completely false.
Flash played far better than Pure so they can't both have rating 4 if it's not relative.

Since it's relative, it doesn't really say much :/
(for example flash's loss vs MVP would be something like MVP: 5 Flash:2 )

anyway nice writeup.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 10 2010 20:44 GMT
#45
On May 10 2010 17:57 Waxangel wrote:
Hmmm, well if he wins MSL and OSL in the same season, then he'll be the first to ever do so... which gives him an extremely strong case to be considered bonjwa.

2nd Nada did it as well (although the MSL wasn't the MSL back then...)
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
May 10 2010 20:51 GMT
#46
thank you for the writeup!

we all know the MSL will do as much as they can to fuck it up, so no worries!
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
conTAgi0n
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States335 Posts
May 10 2010 22:36 GMT
#47
On May 11 2010 00:23 din wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2010 20:20 QibingZero wrote:

It's pretty obvious that Jaedong is bonjwa.



It's pretty obvious that you are a blind fanboy.


It's pretty obvious that you didn't read his post very carefully before deciding to call him out on it. Let's look at this statement in context:

On May 10 2010 20:20 QibingZero wrote:
This is silly.

It's pretty obvious that Jaedong is bonjwa.

Flash, on the other hand, is a step above bonjwa. =P [emphasis added]


When they meet anything can happen, however.


Since you had to actually delete the rest of his post from the quotation, I'm not sure how you managed to come up with the interpretation that you did. Something to consider anyways before you decide to accuse someone else of being a fanboy.
tru_power22
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada385 Posts
May 10 2010 22:49 GMT
#48
I noticed a mistake in the bracket. I fixed if for you though.

[image loading]
Smoke Errday!
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 10 2010 22:57 GMT
#49
On May 11 2010 07:49 tru_power22 wrote:
I noticed a mistake in the bracket. I fixed if for you though.

[image loading]


LOL
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-10 23:08:08
May 10 2010 23:02 GMT
#50
Jaedong has been dominating from about 2007- 2009 (now playing sub-Flash...except maybe in BO5...will have to see MSL finals to clear that point)

I don't think anything neared JD's play when Flash had a mini-slump

3 OSL
2MSL (maybe 3 soon)

1 MSL silver (4/5 finals win)

keSPA no1 for 15 months

most TL netizens do not recognise Jaedong was Bonjwa for a while (back in maybe end of 2008 and 2009)
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Flash has been dominating for a few month, had a mini-slump and played sub-jaedong for a while before that (though pretty near to the tyrant).

2 OSL( soon to be 3)
(maybe 1 MSL soon)

1 MSL silver (2/3 Finals win)
keSPA no 1 for 8 months

Most TL netizens think Flash is Bonjwa if he makes it past his MSL semi-final
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Now if we want to be consequent to our judging of Jaedong for Bonjwa status, we need to have Flash do A LOT more then overwhelm everything (except our good friend Jaedong in A BO5)
for a few months.

If we grant Flash Bonjwa, we must say Jaedong was Bonjwa in end of 2008 and 2009

If not Lee ssang Rok is Bonjwa and i don't think anyone can argue/
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granted I am a Jaedong fan but that was done mostly based on statistics so please don't counter-argue me with something like that

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Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
May 10 2010 23:06 GMT
#51
more and more becoming a Flash anti-fan, can't wait to see his downfall...
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-10 23:08:12
May 10 2010 23:07 GMT
#52
@swanized
Except you only bring up stats that favour Jaedong here...
Having like 100% winratio for a year and breaking all kinds of records is also something to be considered.

Flash is simply more dominating with potential dual back to back MSL+OSL finals coming up.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
tru_power22
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada385 Posts
May 10 2010 23:24 GMT
#53
On May 11 2010 08:06 Shiladie wrote:
more and more becoming a Flash anti-fan, can't wait to see his downfall...


Why, because he is beast of a progamer? If your going to rage, Give a reason.
Smoke Errday!
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
May 10 2010 23:32 GMT
#54
Flash is post-bonjwa. Yeah. Sci-fi time.
www.brainyweb.ca //web stuff!
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
May 10 2010 23:58 GMT
#55
i'm fucking stoned and star wars is running but i have to say this is like the craziest shit i ever read
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
May 11 2010 00:08 GMT
#56
On May 11 2010 07:49 tru_power22 wrote:
I noticed a mistake in the bracket. I fixed if for you though.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



hahah XD
so true...

nice writeup! described the games i didn't want to watch relay well =P
I like haikus and / I can not lie. You other / brothers can't deny
Rkie
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1278 Posts
May 11 2010 00:11 GMT
#57
man Pure was soo close too. In both the second and third sets, Pure should have beaten Flash, but made a few small decisions like waiting for extra carriers and not attacking, which cost him dearly. I believe in Kal, though. He will be the downfall of the KT Hero
tru_power22
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada385 Posts
May 11 2010 02:22 GMT
#58
On May 11 2010 09:11 Rkie wrote:
man Pure was soo close too. In both the second and third sets, Pure should have beaten Flash, but made a few small decisions like waiting for extra carriers and not attacking, which cost him dearly. I believe in Kal, though. He will be the downfall of the KT Hero


I think Kal is a strong player, but Flash can macro like a beast. Not to mention Tanks>All

(Would love to see a nuke. If I saw one, I might jizz a little).
Smoke Errday!
zipz0p
Profile Joined February 2010
United States123 Posts
May 11 2010 03:30 GMT
#59
On May 10 2010 17:18 Waxangel wrote:
...I know I'm mean to Pure because, well, he deserves it usually, but I was actually impressed here...

I couldn't agree more. I was impressed (much more so than I expected to be!), but mediocre play from Flash is still a bit better than inspired play from a mediocre player.

Thanks for the interesting analysis, and I really enjoy this format! Keep up the good work! With any luck, the other semi-final will produce not only interesting games, but a competent competitor to Flash in the finals (I'm not holding my breath!).
u gotta skate
akomatic
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
156 Posts
May 11 2010 04:33 GMT
#60
I don't object to the 4/5s. Although, if I were Flash, I'd rather try to create risk-averse 4/5 wins than the chance of 3/5 losses or 5/5 wins. I think we can all remember a recent PvT series where the T had a substantial lead, and then repeatedly tried for wild 5/5 wins when he already had proven he could win standard, only to lose the series.
..Bears!
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