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[OSL] Semi-Final: Flash vs Pure - Page 5

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poptartazn2
Profile Joined April 2010
United States15 Posts
May 11 2010 21:30 GMT
#81
Rofl, watching that jaedong vs midas video, I realize that while TL foreigners quarrel amongst themselves on "WTF GUY HASN'T WON 4 STARLEAGUES IN A ROW AND 95% WIN RATE NO BONJWA", Hanguk has already decided that Jaedong is the current bonjwa, already having taken the first's seat.
"...'최고수, 지존'를 뜻하는 말로 변용되었다" (Translated to words like 'Number 1 gosu, expert' [Note: not necessarily 19starleague-platinummouse-98%winrate player)
Foreigners misunderstand the term, yes.
12 point FPL. Can we call him bonjwa NOW?
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
May 11 2010 22:07 GMT
#82
I really want to see Effort vs Flash for the grand final. There's my hope and prediction for the tournament.
There's no S in KT. :P
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43585 Posts
May 11 2010 23:56 GMT
#83
On May 12 2010 05:06 PhOeniX[MinD] wrote:
really, really bad raittings

how can u rate 4both maybe flash was not the beast we used to but he still the best right now. pure just went 14 nexus everygame and he lost all of them, he just gave one nice match the rest was just sad.


I explained my ratings. Pure was above average. Flash was under his best. There's room in 4 for both of them. If I give Flash a 5 for this then I have nothing for when people play exceptionally well. Giving Pure a 3 for these games wouldn't be fair to his strategy and macro.
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Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
May 12 2010 00:10 GMT
#84
I feel bad for Pure, he is playing really well right now and I feel that if he could have faced anyone but Jaedong and Flash he would have a trip to the Finals, but alas.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
May 12 2010 02:09 GMT
#85
On May 12 2010 03:51 asdfTT123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2010 02:46 Beachac wrote:
On May 11 2010 21:08 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
omg wtf bias! flash is good for only 2 months and you call him bonjwa?!

jaedong has been raping for past a year and everyone says "nah hes not bonjwa yet"

WTF!!!!!

/jaedong fanboy rage


Holy shit you're a moron. Flash has been dominating since september, not two months. Jaedong hasn't even been consistently playing at an s-class level for the past year. The difference between flash and jaedong's play is not even tiny, it's huge.


ROFLWAFFLE. KTflash fanboyism at its worst.

Seriously, what a boring starleague final this will be. So many interesting/good players were knocked out early (i.e Jaedong, Stork, Fantasy, etc) and now it will be Flash vs Kal/Effort, who are both undeserving of an appearance in a starleague final (esp Effort, who ROBBED Shine because he QQed about his mouse, wtf???). And Pure in the semi's against Flash? Pure has no business beyond any Ro16, and he makes it into the Ro4 only to be crushed like a fly? What a joke.

MSL >>>> OSL this season.


I'm no Starcraft guru but that whole point makes 0 sense. It's not normal to have an entitlement complex for yourself, let alone someone else. How do players that lost, deserve the spot that the people that beat them are in. This isn't boxing/ufc, there's no "champion and #1 contender," JD lost his games, I bet he would be the first to admit he doesn't deserve a spot in the finals because of it.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Lazerbeems
Profile Joined May 2010
151 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-12 04:00:31
May 12 2010 03:52 GMT
#86
On May 12 2010 03:51 asdfTT123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2010 02:46 Beachac wrote:
On May 11 2010 21:08 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
omg wtf bias! flash is good for only 2 months and you call him bonjwa?!

jaedong has been raping for past a year and everyone says "nah hes not bonjwa yet"

WTF!!!!!

/jaedong fanboy rage


Holy shit you're a moron. Flash has been dominating since september, not two months. Jaedong hasn't even been consistently playing at an s-class level for the past year. The difference between flash and jaedong's play is not even tiny, it's huge.


ROFLWAFFLE. KTflash fanboyism at its worst.

Seriously, what a boring starleague final this will be. So many interesting/good players were knocked out early (i.e Jaedong, Stork, Fantasy, etc) and now it will be Flash vs Kal/Effort, who are both undeserving of an appearance in a starleague final (esp Effort, who ROBBED Shine because he QQed about his mouse, wtf???). And Pure in the semi's against Flash? Pure has no business beyond any Ro16, and he makes it into the Ro4 only to be crushed like a fly? What a joke.

MSL >>>> OSL this season.


Kal undeserving of an individual league finals? Are you really joking?

If any player wants to get to the final, he has to get to it like everyone else - through the Ro32, through the Ro16, and so forth. Stork is much less deserving of a individual league position than Kal because he doesn't win the vast majority of his games like Kal, Fantasy can't TvZ for crap, and Jaedong couldn't even beat Baby in a Bo3.

Kal vs Flash will definitely be one of the better TvP series matches considering how damn strong the two have been playing in the matchup. Kal's play has been very good and Effort's play has taken a complete 180 degree turn after he appeared on the match fixing list.

Next season, Flash and Jaedong should automatically get knocked out so all the fanboys can stop spewing rubbish.
Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
May 12 2010 05:33 GMT
#87
On May 11 2010 07:57 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 07:49 tru_power22 wrote:
I noticed a mistake in the bracket. I fixed if for you though.

[image loading]


LOL


Congrats, you pointed out the joke :p
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley
Leath
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada1724 Posts
May 12 2010 12:54 GMT
#88
do Korean call players bonjwa?

Because some Korean guy told me that bonjwa translates into savior. So, I deduced (wasnt told) it was a title exclusive to (Z)sAviOr.
http://www.kongregate.com/?referrer=Sagess
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 12 2010 17:35 GMT
#89
Kwark maybe you should have used ratings 1-10 instead
1-5 obviously isn't enough to judge this series...
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
May 12 2010 18:03 GMT
#90
On May 13 2010 02:35 StylishVODs wrote:
Kwark maybe you should have used ratings 1-10 instead
1-5 obviously isn't enough to judge this series...

I think 1-2 is the more appropriate scale. 1 is for people who don't play perfectly. 2 should be reserved for when people play perfectly, and would be given very rarely.
May the BeSt man win.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 12 2010 18:20 GMT
#91
On May 13 2010 03:03 Djabanete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 02:35 StylishVODs wrote:
Kwark maybe you should have used ratings 1-10 instead
1-5 obviously isn't enough to judge this series...

I think 1-2 is the more appropriate scale. 1 is for people who don't play perfectly. 2 should be reserved for when people play perfectly, and would be given very rarely.

lol
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
May 12 2010 18:28 GMT
#92
On May 12 2010 05:00 Spyfire242 wrote:
People misunderstand the term, "Bonjwa."



Pls explain then.No offence meant btw

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Bonjwa

No seriously, i dont understand this whole bonjwa thing.
If you watch Flash's and Jaedong's games you know how they play, you can have an idea who they are, call them what you want, but raging and debating hours about who is the bonjwa of the two...I find that pointless. Time will tell!
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
PhOeniX[MinD]
Profile Joined August 2008
361 Posts
May 13 2010 01:41 GMT
#93
kal deserves to be on semi but i dont think he will reach the final cause his pvz is not good enough but i like him and im really not used to like P players
KT_FlaSh #1
NetherOgle
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3 Posts
May 13 2010 02:33 GMT
#94
In the Hiya VS Free game, can somebody PLEASE tell me why the commentators went all crazy and Hiya smiled when he started a Command Center just moments before GG. I have to know why.
“As the Red Queen told Alice in Wonderland, you have to entertain six impossible ideas before breakfast.”
PhOeniX[MinD]
Profile Joined August 2008
361 Posts
May 13 2010 04:00 GMT
#95
On May 13 2010 11:33 NetherOgle wrote:
In the Hiya VS Free game, can somebody PLEASE tell me why the commentators went all crazy and Hiya smiled when he started a Command Center just moments before GG. I have to know why.


in what set ?
KT_FlaSh #1
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
May 13 2010 05:46 GMT
#96
Flash gonna dominate ^_^
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
May 13 2010 13:10 GMT
#97
Flash for the double crown
this is amazing
cw)minsean(ru
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 13 2010 16:30 GMT
#98
On May 13 2010 11:33 NetherOgle wrote:
In the Hiya VS Free game, can somebody PLEASE tell me why the commentators went all crazy and Hiya smiled when he started a Command Center just moments before GG. I have to know why.


Free cast mindcontrol on Hiyas SCV. Free was making the Command Center.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
May 13 2010 17:36 GMT
#99
Flash'es TvP is imba now! I mean 3-0 Pure, 3-0 Free...I hope Effort will qualify because I cant see how Kal can beat Flash! Effort will prepare Flash for Jaedong
Jaedong has a chance to beat Flash 'cause Flash wants that golden mouse so OSL is a priority for him. I dont know if he has enough time to prepare well for the MSL final. (The same thing happened last year in the MSL final)
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
PhOeniX[MinD]
Profile Joined August 2008
361 Posts
May 14 2010 19:25 GMT
#100
the pure and free matches gave us the meaning of 12 nexus against good terrans = humilliation on tv
KT_FlaSh #1
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