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Backseat Broodwar - Vol. 4 - Page 3

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Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
November 08 2009 00:55 GMT
#41
Thank you for this, some vods will save my night.
dranjam
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland198 Posts
November 08 2009 00:59 GMT
#42
Lol, i am 100% amazed by this write up and it's not easy to impress me. Never before anyone has made me so eager to watch a TvZ (especially featuring Midas), so gz and VERY well done.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight with you, then you win.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 08 2009 01:22 GMT
#43
Great writeup as usual.

Glad you added in RorO vs RuBy. That game is beyond sick.
RIP Aaliyah
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
November 08 2009 01:44 GMT
#44
BBW headquarters...

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ToN
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada245 Posts
November 08 2009 02:01 GMT
#45
Awesome read but was wondering if you could implore about the whole personality types vs being successful at starcraft part or did I just overlook it on the other forum?
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
November 08 2009 02:12 GMT
#46
Great writeup, thanks for all your efforts!
♣ Jaedong. Stork. Bisu. Calm. NaDa. SC2: Sen, MKP, DRG, MMA, Grubby, NonY, Ret, Jinro, TLO, Sheth, HayprO, Zenio,Taeja,Snute, Sea, Rain, MC,Squirtle,Stephano,Parting ,Life, and HEROOOOO <3
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-08 02:58:18
November 08 2009 02:57 GMT
#47
On November 08 2009 03:52 LucasWoJ wrote:
Well-written!

The observer thing Pure did is nothing special, really. Bisu did it against go.go (the game he lost) to find out that gogo was doing the 4 rax build on him. He still lost, but that was because of his initial build.

Great insight about Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz. I never saw that before until just right now.

Oh I didn't know Bisu had done it before - regardless, Pure does make exceptional use of his observer in every game (you just have to observant to see those little guys flying around). But that's what so great about Pure - he's nothing special - just one solid protoss haha
On November 08 2009 11:01 ToN wrote:
Awesome read but was wondering if you could implore about the whole personality types vs being successful at starcraft part or did I just overlook it on the other forum?

That's certainly something worth thinking about
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populis
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Brazil88 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-08 10:13:19
November 08 2009 03:45 GMT
#48
The article sounds so conservative that I couldn't resist to answer to it.

Firstly, this

It’s because foreigners are better. There, I said it. Foreigners have lead the way in innovation all along – rekrul pioneered Arbiters, Eriador showed us just how good Queens really are, KawaiiRice worked out the optimum way to avoid Medics wasting their energy healing plagued marines etc. It is time that the foreigners show the Koreans really how to practice.


is lame to be said. You say something ground-breaking ("foreigners are better, they have lead the way in innovation all along", all along, are you really serious?), then justify it with a bunch of unknown examples by most of the foreigners. Let's not begin with Koreans knowing it.
The repercussion of the foreigners acts is contained inside the foreign community. Why the koreans are always surprised by how the foreigners know so much about them? Of course that's because they don't know shit about foreigners.

The recipe is quite simple; throw a bunch of great players together and mass game playing through basically the exact same build an uncountable number of times.


This is what you see from your standpoint, far away from the Starcraft epicenter. Nevertheless I've seen many people, even the staff, countless times, saying they are like family to each other, they share more than professional matters. This act of simplify things to a point in where they get senseless is a fallacy.

Lastly, you claim to offer the real deal as recipe to solve all our problems. A stupid simple solution in which many of the korean kids must have thought of years ago.

So thank you Backseat Broodwar, for this exposé on the inefficiency of Korean practice schemes, and detailing the trick to optimising your practice.


And I said lastly because I had to stop reading right there, rushing to begin the practice of the save game trick and bring the real democracy upon those stupid Koreans.

I'm sorry, but one of the worsts articles I've read here lately.
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nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
November 08 2009 04:18 GMT
#49
What is KawaiiRice's innovation in preventing medic from wasting energy on plagued marine?
jash
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States11 Posts
November 08 2009 04:21 GMT
#50
This article says
KawaiiRice worked out the optimum way to avoid Medics wasting their energy healing plagued marines etc.


The only thing I could find about this anywhere was on Liquipedia:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Medic
Tip : When you don't have Restoration, and don't want to waste energy by constantly healing plagued Marines, you can press the Move button and click on a Marine. This will prevent healing until you hit the stop / hold / attack / heal button.


Is this what KawaiiRice figured out? Or is there something else? Also, just curious -- if that is it, when did he figure it out?
lets go pens
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
November 08 2009 04:24 GMT
#51
I really hate the stuff about team politics (the bit about Jaedong). You have no idea if you're right or you're wrong, you're really just guessing. Should Oz starting doing poorly, you're going to claim you isolated the reason. Oz does well, nobody's going to call you out of the fact that you were wrong ages and ages ago. Guessing the impact of a player on a team based on what you've read in interviews doesn't really get us anywhere. It just doesn't really add anything to think about while watching matches.

Pure - I guess I have my eyes on every Protoss in the OSL this season, as Zerg players had eyes on any Zerg player who advanced when the 6 dragons romping about.

Gosh I watched the Midas versus Killer game and I can't remember what happened.

Ruby versus Roro game 1 is really good.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
November 08 2009 05:12 GMT
#52
god damn shitload of content

really nice idea about the save game form a practicing as well.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 08 2009 06:53 GMT
#53
Get practicing everyone
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Enteris
Profile Joined June 2009
United States51 Posts
November 08 2009 08:52 GMT
#54
I have to say, Peace's scourging of the Overlords on a regular basis is what allowed him to win. It prevented his opponent from continually producing mutas. Simply a master stroke.
Go July Go!
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
November 08 2009 12:02 GMT
#55
Damn this BBW is really going strong...hope it continues that way!
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
MrHickoryHam54
Profile Joined January 2009
United States208 Posts
November 08 2009 13:59 GMT
#56
On November 08 2009 13:18 nosliw wrote:
What is KawaiiRice's innovation in preventing medic from wasting energy on plagued marine?



ok seriously, maybe hes right. or at least he sounds right about this foreigner stuff. but that wont really matter. korea is still gonna sweep the WCG, still gonna roll any foreigner that comes into SCland, and still gonna maintain a monopoly when SC2 comes out.

you know why? its because out of millions of ardent, zealous amateur players in korea, at least some of them will rise to greatness, become royal roaders, and then perhaps bonjwas.
during this phase, they will take sc more seriously than 99% of foreigners take their careers.

then in foreign countries, sc is nothing more than a hobby or a pasttime. you cant make crap dollars in the USA by playing sc. plus, korea is pretty modernist, so if they see a foreign country develop better practicing techniques, they will be the first to jump on them.

so in the end, foreigners may be more "innovative," but they will NEVER be better than koreans at sc. thats just the truth
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4721 Posts
November 08 2009 15:01 GMT
#57
Seems I missed a bunch of top games this week. Nice writeup.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
November 08 2009 17:21 GMT
#58
Great writeup! Thanks!
the nooby SC kid
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada14 Posts
November 08 2009 19:38 GMT
#59
but still i disagree with u. korea is THE BEST SC in the whole world. we won WCG ALL THE TIME. what is there to pull weaknees to koreans. other players in the world cant match koreans. KOREANS RULEZ
hi people
dranjam
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland198 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-08 20:07:32
November 08 2009 20:07 GMT
#60
On November 08 2009 22:59 MrHickoryHam54 wrote:so in the end, foreigners may be more "innovative," but they will NEVER be better than koreans at sc. thats just the truth

Foreigners are more innovative because koreans only play what wins games and creative play of Nal_ra, Boxer and the likes is limited. And saying "NEVER" is asking for cosmic payback, guess what, Bisu and Effort just got buttraped by foreigner at IEF.
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