• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:44
CEST 18:44
KST 01:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies18Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)5Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12
Community News
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League1Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !18
StarCraft 2
General
herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 527 Hell Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 VPN experiences vespene.gg — BW replays in browser (Spoiler) ASL21 Winner's Interview [ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Dating: How's your luck? Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Organizations: Raisi…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1485 users

Backseat Broodwar - Vol. 4 - Page 2

Forum Index > News
65 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-07 19:17:23
November 07 2009 19:13 GMT
#21
fixes i noticed:


This method can be applied to any ‘set piece’ of action. For instance this method can be used to train against Carriers, train against lurker contains, train against drops, train large army control, train defiler control.... you get the idea. Another side benefit to this, is that if you're practicing your mechanics from the midgame – then you’re probably going to have a lot more late game experience; which is one area even the top Koreans are weak in as can be seen in the game below.


If Jaedong loses, however, the team is disappointed and there is a reaction. Usually team morale gets shot right then and there, and the team loses. It’s like long term drug abuse – Jaedong winning just gets you back to normal, while Jaedong losing sends you crashing down into a bad spiral.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
Kennelie
Profile Joined December 2007
United States2296 Posts
November 07 2009 19:17 GMT
#22
awesome article!
ya had ya shot kid!
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
November 07 2009 19:22 GMT
#23
Also your banner kinda looks like mister peanut
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
November 07 2009 19:33 GMT
#24
Is it just me or does the korean kid in the pic have a flying barracks and command center. If so, that is definitely not the way to train....
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
November 07 2009 19:47 GMT
#25
Excellent write up as usual, but as someone else mentioned before Bisu have already done the dual obser move before, and I would not be surprised if someone else have done it before him. So its not like Pure was inventing the wheel that game...
God Hates a Coward
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-07 19:52:50
November 07 2009 19:52 GMT
#26
Ahahaha... well, this volume is the first I've truly enjoyed. From the hilarious Jaedong/Oz observations that also leave a little bit of a sting, to calling Skyhigh the neo-Goodfriend, this one kept me interested and entertained. Great stuff.

Also, that kid is definitely using the arrow keys Boxer-style.
Oh, my eSports
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
November 07 2009 20:08 GMT
#27
Just noticed that there are "–" punctuation marks in like every phrase – just nickpicking maybe but after noticing this I just couldn't unsee it for the rest of the article – not sure it's a great writing habit to have.

And yeah my favorite BB so far.
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
November 07 2009 20:22 GMT
#28
I usually just read these for the recommended games, but there was interesting stuff in here... especially the practice thing.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
November 07 2009 20:28 GMT
#29
BBW Headquarters LOL
Peace~
EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
November 07 2009 20:50 GMT
#30
This writing is the kick in the pants team liquid really needs, reminds me of the old vod writeups, except better!
Simon and Garfunkel rock my face off
Tyraz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
New Zealand310 Posts
November 07 2009 21:15 GMT
#31
Sick write up! Seriously with those VODs included it took up like 2-3 hours of my life lol. Time defiantly well spent!

P.s. For that secret you shall be immortalized.... maybe.
100% Pure.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-07 21:42:42
November 07 2009 21:40 GMT
#32
Great write-up! Interesting idea with the "Save Game" function, I've really never used it, and I'm sure nobody else really does either.

But I would take (Z)EffOrt v. (Z)Luxury in a heartbeat over that
(Z)AverageZerg#1 v. (Z)AverageZerg#2 snooze-a-thon.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
November 07 2009 21:58 GMT
#33
On November 08 2009 01:46 riptide wrote:
Getting into some basic theorycrafting, we'd like to take the opportunity to thank ETT for bumping this thread.


Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
hempLine
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada63 Posts
November 07 2009 22:01 GMT
#34
Awesome writeup, I so agree with the whole team moral.
MBC T_T Ret for TSL2!!
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
November 07 2009 22:10 GMT
#35
i just took 3 hours getting through this. geez.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
John49ers
Profile Joined May 2009
United States237 Posts
November 07 2009 22:14 GMT
#36
Nice write up.

The "save game" part was especially interesting. Reminds me of when the Miami Dolphins used the Wildcat formation to much success in the NFL. Teams could not stop it consistently at first but spent time watching film the putting it into practice. Opposing teams would have "situational plays" much like the "save game" and practice against the Wildcat. Now everyone seems (a little) better defending the Wildcat formation.
“The beauty of Bill's system was that there was always a place to go with the ball, ... I was the mailman, just delivering people's mail, and there were all kinds of houses to go to.”-Joe Montana
banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-07 22:28:26
November 07 2009 22:27 GMT
#37
Insane write up, writeup, write-up

Took a while to read completely, was worth it =]
~chut~
Profile Joined September 2003
France1317 Posts
November 07 2009 22:48 GMT
#38
Plexa, even though you prefer Pusan to Anytime, you're amazing !
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-07 23:30:18
November 07 2009 23:29 GMT
#39
For sure one of the best articles/week summaries I've seen on the site, great job!

I do not know of any other Protoss, including Stork, that would have pulled off that move there. (for the lazy reader; Pure used two Observers to see what was going on when he couldn’t penetrate Leta’s base with one – he sacrificed the first one to turret fire while the second one was able to see Leta’s plan).


Just to make one quick point, (P)Bisu actually pulled this off against (T)go.go in the link below:

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/13392_Bisu_vs_go.go/vod
(look around the 10:05 mark)

Go.go also deep-six rushed Bisu, however, Bisu did the cute observer trick about a minute too late.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
November 08 2009 00:54 GMT
#40
On November 08 2009 08:29 Hapahauli wrote:
For sure one of the best articles/week summaries I've seen on the site, great job!

Show nested quote +
I do not know of any other Protoss, including Stork, that would have pulled off that move there. (for the lazy reader; Pure used two Observers to see what was going on when he couldn’t penetrate Leta’s base with one – he sacrificed the first one to turret fire while the second one was able to see Leta’s plan).


Just to make one quick point, (P)Bisu actually pulled this off against (T)go.go in the link below:

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/13392_Bisu_vs_go.go/vod
(look around the 10:05 mark)

Go.go also deep-six rushed Bisu, however, Bisu did the cute observer trick about a minute too late.


I think with the recent 'resurgence' of deep six builds, some similar turret networks spliced into standard play could prove effective. At the very least, you'll really mess with the Protoss' mind, and won't need to fear any reaver drops.
Oh, my eSports
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
#53
RotterdaM657
TKL 302
IndyStarCraft 84
SteadfastSC48
BRAT_OK 46
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 657
Ryung 449
TKL 302
mouzHeroMarine 185
ProTech108
Railgan 89
IndyStarCraft 84
UpATreeSC 54
SteadfastSC 48
BRAT_OK 46
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 54573
Calm 2398
Jaedong 514
actioN 421
ggaemo 408
Hyuk 364
firebathero 241
BeSt 197
Nal_rA 141
Sharp 126
[ Show more ]
Mong 91
Rush 84
Mind 62
Barracks 60
scan(afreeca) 50
Terrorterran 29
Sexy 28
Movie 25
Rock 25
soO 24
HiyA 13
IntoTheRainbow 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 8
Counter-Strike
fl0m803
byalli619
allub414
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor130
Other Games
Grubby2994
FrodaN1408
hiko862
Dendi750
B2W.Neo718
Beastyqt545
ceh9371
Hui .272
KnowMe178
ArmadaUGS162
XaKoH 147
Liquid`VortiX107
Trikslyr63
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL703
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 12
• Hinosc 6
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2807
• Nemesis2373
• Stunt392
Other Games
• WagamamaTV378
• Shiphtur196
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
7h 16m
Kung Fu Cup
18h 16m
GSL
1d 16h
herO vs Classic
Cure vs Clem
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Maru vs SHIN
Zoun vs Rogue
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
SKillous vs Strange
Lambo vs Strange
Ryung vs Strange
Lambo vs Ryung
Ryung vs SKillous
Lambo vs SKillous
OSC
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Lambo vs SHIN
Solar vs Rogue
herO vs Clem
Maestros of the Game
4 days
IPSL
4 days
ZZZero vs WorsT
Julia vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
IPSL
5 days
Dragon vs Artosis
dxtr13 vs Hawk
BSL
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 21
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

2026 KK StarCraft Pro League
BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
YSL S3
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: King of Kings
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.