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[GG] Mafia XII - The Summer Season

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Elemenope
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Burkina Faso1704 Posts
July 02 2009 21:28 GMT
#38
/confirm

As for the weather: I don't believe Snow first night would be good, as stated since we don't know how exactly clues are going to be based. However, if we wait too long, then we'll miss a good timing window in my opinion. Snow really peaks at its usefulness once we find our first mafia. After that night, the other weathers outstrip it until either all pledges are dead, all assassinations are used, or all angels are dead in my opinion. But we have to get a mafia within the next 2 days (possibly 1), to make the most use out of it if we ever do decide to do Snow, otherwise it's just too late it seems with a KP of 5.

Sunny wouldn't be a good option either for first weather since we have no good targets.

As for Fog or Rain; I believe going for Rain would be the better option. Although there would be a guaranteed drop in KP if we do Fog; Angels only have one protection and there are no second lives for other players (except the angels themselves). With a KP of 5; and only 2 protections available, some of our better contributors can die early on and that would be a massive blow to the town. We can drop that to 4 with Fog, but that'd still leave 2 important people to die (possibly). With 4 protections though, we'd have a better protection spread among the town, and we'd also have the possibility of reducing KP through stacked hits on top of that (which I think is the more likely scenario that will happen if we do Rain).

And although the chance of a suicide bomber on night one is unlikely, we'd still lock him out if we do Rain, in comparison to the possible scenario of the bomber taking out somebody on the medic list *and* the angel(s) protecting him on night one.

I just feel that the risk of having 2 important, contributing members of the town die is just too great compared to double angel protection and most likely forcing mafia to stack hits

Can anybody tell me if I'm wrong in this thinking of Rain over Fog before I send in my vote?
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Elemenope
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Burkina Faso1704 Posts
July 02 2009 22:23 GMT
#39
Also, Plexa: Can mafia target their own members for hits?
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Elemenope
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Burkina Faso1704 Posts
July 03 2009 02:40 GMT
#68
On July 03 2009 11:30 Ace wrote:
I vote for Elemenope




WHY AREN'T YOU WARDING THE WHOLE GAME YOU CUNTBUCKET
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Elemenope
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
July 05 2009 16:07 GMT
#237
Ah, apparently this plan happened while I was sleeping -.-

I'm on lunch break right now so this post will be short, but although I agree with the general premise of the plan. I don't agree on who was lynched.

If we make the standard assumption that mafia is running for office, and we go further with that by saying a GF is running for office since rolechecks can happen now for the mayor candidate:

Why not lynch L instead of MBH?

Although, in my opinion, MBH would seem like a bigger threat if he were mafia, you said yourself;
So by day 2-3 town would easily have [MBH's] orientation pegged.


With this plan, although good in theory, it seems wasted on MBH as all we're getting is extra insurance of MBH's alignment, but now we're risking losing the priest's power completely.

We also lose MBH's ideas/analysis of people for the next 2 or 3 days or whatever, and we may lose them completely if the priest is found; and if angels can find the priest, then I'm sure mafia can figure it out, too; but then again,

Historically medics have sucked more than any other role in the game, IE don't depend on them early game, how hard is this to understand, MEDICS DO NOT WIN GAMES. This instantly gets rid of the damn rain option.


Aren't we kind of doing that now? And if our medics are as incompetent as TL history shows, then the priest might not even have protection at all. Although I realize the quote was trying to advise fog over rain, the thoughts and premise behind it also apply here since we're going to most likely have to use rain because of the suicide bomber. Yeah, mafia might lose a KP because of that, but does it really matter? It gets rid of a major power role of a network of confirmed innocents and the priest basically reduces mafia KP by .33 anyway as long as his ability is used every moment.

Now we have to wait til Day 4(?) for us to make use of MBH.

I just feel that if we lynched L, we would've gained a lot more information in comparison to MBH who we find out is innocent (which is a plus), but we would've found that out anyway tomorrow or the next day.
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Elemenope
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
July 05 2009 16:10 GMT
#238
On July 05 2009 15:15 JeeJee wrote:
take lmnop off that list, waste of lynch



<3 also ;3
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Elemenope
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
July 05 2009 16:11 GMT
#239
And just incase people are confused (for some reason) about where those quotes came from in my post at 1:07, both came from BC.
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Elemenope
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Burkina Faso1704 Posts
July 09 2009 05:37 GMT
#604
In my pants ;3
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Elemenope
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Burkina Faso1704 Posts
July 17 2009 14:47 GMT
#1257
On July 17 2009 21:18 Scaramanga wrote:
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On July 17 2009 20:31 Ace wrote:
its because the town has such great abilities the mafia have a hard time killing everyone v_v

Ace stop taking the piss


Agreed

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HE SHOULD BE WARDING THE FUCKING JUNGLE
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Elemenope
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
July 21 2009 21:26 GMT
#1493
On July 22 2009 06:22 Shikyo wrote:
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On July 22 2009 06:20 motbob wrote:
On July 22 2009 06:14 Shikyo wrote:
It'd be a nice thing to add to TL. a Mafia forum for all the mafia, giving access to only mafia... Or maybe that would be too complicated, I don't know.

Well, we did it ourselves pretty easily. I don't see a reason to have it tied to TL.

Well yeah, but then I guess the host should create a forum, I mean... it's not unreasonable to assume that none of the ~8 mafia knows how to make those forums. Or maybe it is but =P Can happen.



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Elemenope
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
July 21 2009 21:34 GMT
#1495
On July 22 2009 06:33 Shikyo wrote:
People keep talking about the "GOSU" but... what exactly spells gosu? Looks like SEFV to me.



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