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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Moloch
Canada222 Posts
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teks
Norway263 Posts
Please don't lynch Shikyo. Even though he may have been acting strangely or played poorly, it would make no sense for him to spare me and an (most likely) unprotected DT last night, he knew our roles. Other than that, I just hope people vote for whoever they see as the strongest suspect. I won't try to sway people to vote what I vote because I'm probably wrong anyway. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 26 2009 07:51 JeeJee wrote: ALL THE VOTES FOR CHAOSER ARE CUTE BUT PLEASE STICK TO THE PLAN IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE TOWN ALIGNED, the last thing we need is a frickin' repeat of qatol in mafia vii. Wasn't he the primary elected role? dundundundun Why are you so much against me all of a sudden? The evidence is weak and I think you're still sure I'm a townie. | ||
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Moloch
Canada222 Posts
On May 26 2009 07:51 JeeJee wrote: ALL THE VOTES FOR CHAOSER ARE CUTE BUT PLEASE STICK TO THE PLAN IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE TOWN ALIGNED, the last thing we need is a frickin' repeat of qatol in mafia vii. What is so special about Shikyo? I went and reread two of your posts which outline the plan. On May 25 2009 22:29 JeeJee wrote: Ok, I'm waiting on a PM from someone, to throw out the final recommendation vote (i might have to tip my hat to the alphabet man this game after all, obscure reference) however, for now, please everyone do the following: vote for double lynch and vote for omg[rayne] And On May 26 2009 00:36 JeeJee wrote: already done crate also, pm received, decision made to recap, our plan for today vote for double, shikyo and omg[rayne] i regret some of the things i've done.. jayme should not have died, and shikyo shouldn't have known as much as he does right now time to turn this town around and pull out the golden chains of justice oft promised Between those two posts you say nothing but Shikyo writes a massive post explaining himself (which you don't respond to). What was in that PM so vital that Shikyo suddenly deserves to die? All I've heard from you is to lynch Shikyo and rayne saying you're making good on your promise to "pull out the golden chains of justice." Why should I trust you when you've given me next to nothing to go on? | ||
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SugiuraMidori
United States281 Posts
Such an angry post is very unlike him. I also see that JeeJee likes these bandwagons and wants them to continue... @JeeJee:: It is rather unlikely that the same thing that happened with Qatol would repeat itself so soon. Once again.. I see nothing in Shikyo's profile that can help align him with any of the kill-clues, and by now we have had eight kills performed by mafia; assuming that at least one set of clues is a double pointer to mafia as all mafia should have at least one clue pointed to them by now (Pidgeon Hole Principle) this makes it unlikely that Shikyo is suspect. However, looking at your profile, and how you'd hate to see tears of angst in others.. it could match any of the clues as they've all been attacks from behind which makes it easy for you not to have seen their faces and any possible tears. Additionally all those bits about fear.. You're easily more suspect than Shikyo is. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On May 26 2009 07:27 The_Master wrote: I changed my vote since it seems like chaoser has the best chance of getting more votes than Shikyo and I do not think Shikyo should be voted out yet. isn't this bandwagoning? Also, in regards to the clues against me, it was the shuffling of PAGES, and cards are NOT pages. Paper yes, pages no. Also, the link between rekrul-->lurker-->STAB IN THE BACK is a very very weak clue. Stronger clues are the ones with sound in which case both clazziquai and BWdero (with his superhero who uses sound to fight) are MUCH stronger candidates. I think I've contributed a fair amount of help this whole game and a lynch for me would be another lynch wasted. I'm not even sure Rayne is such a good candidate for lynch just because the stretch from Rayne to bloodrayne is farfetched too. This whole game our clue analysis has been shit so I really have no faith in any of that. That's my two cents, will write more to respond to any questions regarding my innocence. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On May 26 2009 05:32 teks wrote: The thing about this game is that there are way too few people who actually post anything. That means that the mafia still hides, and we really have nothing to go on except clues. And the clues we have so far haven't really been bulletproof evidence. I'm pretty sure on RaYnE, but I was pretty sure on zeks as well and look how well that turned out. About Shikyo, I'm still torn. It is especially interesting that you mention this. I can recall one mafia game a while back (supposedly a noob game if I remember correctly), where the mafia hardly ever took part in discussion. They just sat back and watch the townspeople go crazy killing themselves. As they say, history does repeat itself. crate, your accusations against Shikyo are well thought out and worth merit. Shikyo's recent response to anything and everything you said is not mafia style though. Surely you think the same way although it would totally reprimend your argument. At this point, I would like to take time to address both Shikyo and crate in my usual fashion so far in this game: ARE YOU TWO BOTH BLINDLY STUPID? The town is sitting here with a confirmed townie (teks) who has access to everyone's supposed roles. Right now, as far as we know, we have a complete list of people who have yet to respond to that list. I'm willing to guarentee that nearly all the blue roles have already messaged him about this (there's no point in delaying if you are a blue role). If this is true we are sitting with a suspected mafia list and townspeople; MAYBE WE SHOULD START PICKING THEM OFF? Honestly your bickering at each other is not helping the town at all. We have a list of people of which the majority is probably mafia. Why are you so insistent on deviating from the list? crate, I know you are stubborn and convinced that Shikyo is mafia, but as long as we stick to the list we are sure to be knocking out mafia (regardless if Shikyo is or not), especially since we got double lynch tomorrow (hopefully). It's nice you got this argument against Shikyo, but it's not really needed right now. Maybe after a few more days when there are less people it might come in handy if we got nothing else to go by. On this note, the town has little to gain from lynching Shikyo, even if he is a mafia. Shikyo claims to know 4 blue roles, and although he was a bit inactive day 2, he is still contributing to town discussion a lot. Isn't that what makes the mafia game? Contributing? Shouldn't we be lynching the non contributers? I got news for you buddy, teks is sitting here with a list of suspected mafia AND NEARLY ALL OF THEM ARE HARDLY ACTIVE! WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT? DO YOU WANT PYRRY TO TELL YOU WHO IS MAFIA? WILL YOU LISTEN THEN? Not to mention, even if you think Shikyo is mafia, lets kill someone he hasn't voted for (since, assuming he is mafia, he wouldn't vote for his own kind). Last I looked, he voted for chaoser and ra.xor.2. Okay lets look at our list and pick someone else then. We got BWdero, clazzi, iLoveKTF, and more (I'm ignoring rayne for now). It's plainly obvious that you're a townsperson of some sort crate. Why you would want to deviate from the list is painful. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On May 26 2009 08:35 SugiuraMidori wrote: Hmm... this brings JeeJee out as suspect, perhaps he is mafia and wishes us to get rid of the Sheriff and his ability to sway the votes? It would seem that we need to vote for JeeJee as well at this rate. Such an angry post is very unlike him. I also see that JeeJee likes these bandwagons and wants them to continue... @JeeJee:: It is rather unlikely that the same thing that happened with Qatol would repeat itself so soon. Once again.. I see nothing in Shikyo's profile that can help align him with any of the kill-clues, and by now we have had eight kills performed by mafia; assuming that at least one set of clues is a double pointer to mafia as all mafia should have at least one clue pointed to them by now (Pidgeon Hole Principle) this makes it unlikely that Shikyo is suspect. However, looking at your profile, and how you'd hate to see tears of angst in others.. it could match any of the clues as they've all been attacks from behind which makes it easy for you not to have seen their faces and any possible tears. Additionally all those bits about fear.. You're easily more suspect than Shikyo is. yes except i'm already a proven townie to the circle. btw you meant mayor not sheriff. Here's something for you to chew on. Shikyo knows who both of the detectives are (even before teks sent us/him the PM before the zeks hit). So if he's a town-aligned mayor with three very powerful votes (which, as you can see can clearly stop bandwagons if he so chooses, and start new ones on random people like chaoser, but not on people like jayme). Yeah, he's totally fulfilling his campaign promise of not starting bandwagons or ending them. /rolleyes Why doesn't he come forward with this information to the town, and instead generally specifying "i know four blues". Yet we manage to lynch only townies and eight townies have died so far. Moreover, both DTs trust (or trusted, depending) shikyo, but shikyo has not spoken to either DT to make them trust each other, and there is still suspicion there and it took something completely other to make them trust each other and work together. But hey, if they both cluecheck the same fucking clue or rolecheck the same fucking person because they dont know what the other is doing due to lack of trust, that benefits the town right? NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE IF HE IS TOWN-ALIGNED. DON'T DEVIATE FROM THE PLAN IF YOU ARE TOWNIE, PLEASE. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
THE LIST WE HAVE IS ABSOLUTE | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 26 2009 08:51 JeeJee wrote: yes except i'm already a proven townie to the circle. btw you meant mayor not sheriff. Here's something for you to chew on. Shikyo knows who both of the detectives are (even before teks sent us/him the PM before the zeks hit). So if he's a town-aligned mayor with three very powerful votes (which, as you can see can clearly stop bandwagons if he so chooses, and start new ones on random people like chaoser, but not on people like jayme). Yeah, he's totally fulfilling his campaign promise of not starting bandwagons or ending them. /rolleyes Why doesn't he come forward with this information to the town, and instead generally specifying "i know four blues". Yet we manage to lynch only townies and eight townies have died so far. Moreover, both DTs trust (or trusted, depending) shikyo, but shikyo has not spoken to either DT to make them trust each other, and there is still suspicion there and it took something completely other to make them trust each other and work together. But hey, if they both cluecheck the same fucking clue or rolecheck the same fucking person because they dont know what the other is doing due to lack of trust, that benefits the town right? NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE IF HE IS TOWN-ALIGNED. DON'T DEVIATE FROM THE PLAN IF YOU ARE TOWNIE, PLEASE. Huh? I pointed out the detectives to each other. Am I now supposed to make sure they become friendly? Come on, I can't do everything on my own. Maybe they should talk to each other themselves, do I have to babysit everyone? | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
Strong candidates for lynch: BWDero clazziquai both for reasons I mentioned in my above post and also because for clazziquai, he's been posting at other parts of TL and he's been in other mafia games before. For him to be this quiet is strange. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
Let's consider all the ways in which the list are wrong: 1) Mafia lie about their roles. We would all expect mafia to all claim townsperson, in the event one of the lied (which might be the GF since if rolechecked he would come up as that role), then we will have list that's further narrowed down. If we got 4 people claiming medic, it should be relatively easy to figure out which one is lying. Basically what I'm getting at, mafia are going to all claim townsperson. Thus all the blue roles will be fulfilled and we are left with townies and mafia. 2) Somebody lies about their role. In the event a blue person lied to protect themself then we are in quite a dilemma. I honestly don't see how this is possible. Most likely, blue roles were probably the first to message teks their role, then townies and mafia. I don't think anyone is stupid enough to make this happen. 3) The list is flawed because teks is mafia. I don't see how this is possible. This would mean there's another vigilante alive right now. I'm pretty sure he would've said something by now. In conclusion, we will have a list of townies. All that's left is to start picking them off and have DT's start rolechecking others (be careful of millers). It does not make sense why we would need to break from this plan. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On the other hand, if we go by crate's logic. Shikyo did not vote for rayne. Shikyo is mafia. Therefore rayne has a high chance of being mafia. | ||
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