EPTMafia VIII [GG] - Page 9
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
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L
Canada4732 Posts
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
So many of you fuckers running for mayor. Wonder how many of them are Mafia. | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On May 17 2009 05:46 nemY wrote: All but one that I know of =] damnit theyre on to me XD | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On May 17 2009 05:47 nemY wrote: Well you're making it kind of obvious :[ double damnit i thought i was good at this game -_- | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On May 17 2009 05:39 L wrote: Yes there is. Voting in a townie mayor gives us a 25% shot at killing a mafia, and voting in a mafia pardoner sets us back an entire day, which is essentially 3 extra town deaths. Either way, at this point a few people have played their poker and sent tells as to what their roles are. Hm, I did forget the first lynch. But I don't think the mayor should be choosing the lynch completely independently, be he mafia or not. The Day 1 lynch, in my opinion, needs to be agreed upon by the town and then enacted by the mayor. As if it was voted upon. I'm not entirely sure how to work it out. On first thoughts, electing a townie mayor does not guarantee a correct first lynch, but electing a mafia mayor probably guarantees a miss, because he and any mafia will try to sway town opinion from lynching anyone on his side. And maybe I'm wrong, but a mafia mayor sacrificing a mafia on the first lynch seems pretty damn stupid, so I'm ruling that out as a possibility. And I guess you're more insightful than I am, because I currently have no idea who is what. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
Hm. Mafia pardoner only sets us back if we get the first lynch correctly. What was the game where the first lynch was pardoned? I think i'm gonna go back and check that one. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
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Tricode
United States538 Posts
>< you fuckers kept posting when was on page 7 and i was like, phew page 8 to go and then I'm caught up >< | ||
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Tricode
United States538 Posts
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L
Canada4732 Posts
Hm. Mafia pardoner only sets us back if we get the first lynch correctly. What was the game where the first lynch was pardoned? I think i'm gonna go back and check that one. No, Mafia pardoner will always set us back a day and will likely block our first double lynch or our first successful double lynch. If mayor is mafia, he will look at a split town consensus and pick a non-mafia target, or he'll have an active posting mafia member start a line of reasoning towards a non-mafia target and have people switch over to that. Either way, since there's nearly ZERO we can do to proof the choice, he can't be held accountable either because a townie mayor would be making a 1 in 4 shot anyways. If the town/mafia mayor gets/sacrifices a mafia, the proper response would NOT be to assume he's a confirmed town member either way. | ||
Ver
United States2186 Posts
@Lucas. Incognito is correct. In Chuiu's game (2 games ago) I was vigilante and put myself in the open and died to 3 hits with only 1 prot everyone though everyone knew I was the prime target. My vote was on Caller because I felt he was likely innocent and at this stage given the overall skill of the players running I want innocent officeholders above all else. BC is also likely innocent but I'm not as sure on this one. Innocents list: Caller 95% BC 85% Based on running time one or two of the last three people who joined the race are probably mafia. Will need more time to get a better picture. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On May 17 2009 06:03 Caller wrote: that game was Ace's and that pardon was mine, infundibulum. And that was part of a grand convoluted strategy which didn't work b/c mafias had managed to synchronize their hits -_- Ah ok thanks, I couldn't even find it after like 15 mins of looking. It isn't really relevant to here anyway On May 17 2009 06:22 L wrote: No, Mafia pardoner will always set us back a day and will likely block our first double lynch or our first successful double lynch. If mayor is mafia, he will look at a split town consensus and pick a non-mafia target, or he'll have an active posting mafia member start a line of reasoning towards a non-mafia target and have people switch over to that. Either way, since there's nearly ZERO we can do to proof the choice, he can't be held accountable either because a townie mayor would be making a 1 in 4 shot anyways. If the town/mafia mayor gets/sacrifices a mafia, the proper response would NOT be to assume he's a confirmed town member either way. Yeah, I didn't think that out thoroughly, so I went to go do the dishes and think some more. Mafia pardoner definitely sets us back. I think you are right that he would wait for double lynch, which slows things down a lot. Rather more dangerous than I first thought. Looks hard to hold the mayor/pardoner accountable during the first Day. | ||
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Tricode
United States538 Posts
So even if the pardoner can have the power to push us back a day, remember the pardoner has to use their role wisely in order not to piss off the town. There will be a lot of pressure on this role. | ||
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MTF
United States1739 Posts
On May 17 2009 06:28 Ver wrote: Hey MTF don't try to steal another election from me. Aw, don't worry. My intentions are purely innocent this time. Promise. On May 17 2009 06:28 Ver wrote: Innocents list: Caller 95% BC 85% What leads you to believe so? It can't simply be that they both showed intention of running for mayor before the game started, because their values are different. I'm only curious because I'm terrible at behavior analysis, haven't been in the loop for awhile, and can't see at all where you're drawing the numbers from. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
On May 17 2009 06:44 Tricode wrote: I think maybe it would be best to make sure the pardoner feels pressure before using their power. If Mafia get's this role, the moment they pardon someone to where it can piss off the town could equal their death in the next lynch (and if it is double lynch both can die). So even if the pardoner can have the power to push us back a day, remember the pardoner has to use their role wisely in order not to piss off the town. There will be a lot of pressure on this role. I don't think you understand just how much being a day behind would do. The mafia gets three more free hits on us and if the pardoner is mafia, he could pardon himself (I think) on the next day, setting us back by even more. Ver would be amazing at pardoner because of his behavioral analysis. We should also make note of bc's suspicious attempt to get pardoner specifically because it could be useful for analysis later. | ||
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
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