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Tricode
United States538 Posts
Even if you did figure out his role, the guy seems to be taking all the credit for himself for caller when he fucked up with Ace and Ver real bad and tries to shift his idiocy onto someone else. You said you you pmed him Thursday? Before or after Ace and Ver's deaths? | ||
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MrBabyHands
United States72 Posts
But to quickly address tricode's inquiries: + Show Spoiler + L protected me last night. I decided to contact L several hours after the ace and ver debacle when there were talks of vigi'ing me. After figuring out his role I PMed L my top suspects in case i died. I also asked for medic protection because i was certain dreamflower would target me and all my analysis would be lost before it was complete (i dont post my accusations until i'm positive AND have proof to back it up.) L agreed with my suspects list. Shortly before the night was over, apparently he got in contact with dreamflower (even asked for her in the thread). I guess he managed to convince her to hit caller instead. And now here we are. No L, no df-- just me with my info and a bullseye on the reds. I never actually asked L to post in the thread tho-- that was all him. Here we go ---------------- When compiling evidence, i find it useful to concentrate on 3 areas: Suspicious behavior, suspicious voting, and suspicious clues. Caller had all 3. and now someone else does-- 0cz3c. Suspicious behavior: + Show Spoiler + First, theres this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93286¤tpage=77#1528 By the way, at least one of the following three is mafia. Caller RebirthofLegend nemY I may be simply pulling this out of my ass. However, 0cz3c's senses are tingling. Its not the fact that he actually listed a mafia in there (caller), but that he makes no attempt to even justify it. "senses are tingling"-- even i dont do that. Senses mean nothing without proof, and this just makes no sense. To add, if you read the post right above that, 0cz3c is lashing out at malongo for suggesting that they discuss who to vigi, including a list of names, one of which was 0cz3c. A wise old man once told me "A hit dog will holler." Earlier in the game, he sad: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93286¤tpage=45#891 Caller should be getting protection from at least one medic, by the way. come on y'all... look at that shit. In retrospect its pretty blatant isnt it? moving right along. Next, suspicous voting: + Show Spoiler + Mayor vote: voted for ver, switched to ace, then finally ended up on Mynock wishy washy voting among 2 innocents, then landing on a third party. This does NOT imply that Mynock is red tho. Instead, it implies that 0cz3c is trying to swing things to the mafia's favor. It was clearly the mafias GOAL to get 2 greens elected-- look at the votes. They knew a good portion of time would be spent figuring out if the leaders are red-- made even more likely with efficient blue sniping the night before-- specifically the fishball and Lucas kills. Which is EXACTLY what happened. Day 2 lynch vote: switched from ace to ver. again, switching between these two. a mafia would've known they were both green. a mafia wouldnt particularly care much who got lynched. that was the plan all along, wasnt it 0cz3c? a mafia would vote for one, or the other. with a possible slight preference for ver due to the controversy it would cause. and finally, suspicious clues: + Show Spoiler + I admit, this was a bit more difficult to find-- Quatol has an interesting clue style, unlike any i've seen before. 0cz = OCZ OCZ is a company that manufactures RAM (in fact, i have a pair of OCZ DDR3's in my comp right now). The company even makes a type of RAM called tripple channel. (3c) http://www.ocztechnology.com/ The day's clue mentioned "bowling" into someone. The 3rd day, its "ramming". Ram is actually mentioned twice in the clue: He charged towards the struggle and rammed into the plant. He proceeded to trample consistent with the clues becomming a bit more obvious over time. kaboom. Bonus evidence: + Show Spoiler + Lucas got blue sniped shortly after getting BG. 0cz3c and Lucas are brothers-- of course he's gonna be able to tell faster than anyone else if his bro has an important role. The facts are in your faces. Lets wrap this shyt up. Each of these pieces of evidence considerd individually would'nt paint the picture we require to prove guilt. But when you consider them all together-- shady behavior, matching clues, "random" blue BG snipe on day 1... smh. so to sum up: we get rid of 0cz3c, and we keep it truckin. MBH: *raspy voice* i am The Babyhands. i eat mafia for breakfast. extra milk. Mafia: omg wtf its the gotdamn Babyhands! run for your lives! MBH: Yes, thats right, my little cockroaches. Run... run faaar faaaaar away. But no matter how far you get, i will be behind you... breathing on your heels. You feel it, dont you? You feel my breath on your ankles... thats how close i am. I'm commin for that azz. | ||
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Tricode
United States538 Posts
On May 23 2009 04:09 MrBabyHands wrote: In the interest of keeping the town on track for once, I will be outting mafia in small numbers instead of one big post calling out names-- in past games, that has just caused the town to start pointing fingers yet again and the votes end up split all over the place. So I will list my newest top suspect (caller was my last top suspect. he didnt last. nobody can withstand the babyhands. But to quickly address tricode's inquiries: + Show Spoiler + L protected me last night. I decided to contact L several hours after the ace and ver debacle when there were talks of vigi'ing me. After figuring out his role I PMed L my top suspects in case i died. I also asked for medic protection because i was certain dreamflower would target me and all my analysis would be lost before it was complete (i dont post my accusations until i'm positive AND have proof to back it up.) L agreed with my suspects list. Shortly before the night was over, apparently he got in contact with dreamflower (even asked for her in the thread). I guess he managed to convince her to hit caller instead. And now here we are. No L, no df-- just me with my info and a bullseye on the reds. I never actually asked L to post in the thread tho-- that was all him. Here we go ---------------- When compiling evidence, i find it useful to concentrate on 3 areas: Suspicious behavior, suspicious voting, and suspicious clues. Caller had all 3. and now someone else does-- 0cz3c. Suspicious behavior: + Show Spoiler + First, theres this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93286¤tpage=77#1528 By the way, at least one of the following three is mafia. Caller RebirthofLegend nemY I may be simply pulling this out of my ass. However, 0cz3c's senses are tingling. Its not the fact that he actually listed a mafia in there (caller), but that he makes no attempt to even justify it. "senses are tingling"-- even i dont do that. Senses mean nothing without proof, and this just makes no sense. To add, if you read the post right above that, 0cz3c is lashing out at malongo for suggesting that they discuss who to vigi, including a list of names, one of which was 0cz3c. A wise old man once told me "A hit dog will holler." Earlier in the game, he sad: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93286¤tpage=45#891 Caller should be getting protection from at least one medic, by the way. come on y'all... look at that shit. In retrospect its pretty blatant isnt it? moving right along. Next, suspicous voting: + Show Spoiler + Mayor vote: voted for ver, switched to ace, then finally ended up on Mynock wishy washy voting among 2 innocents, then landing on a third party. This does NOT imply that Mynock is red tho. Instead, it implies that 0cz3c is trying to swing things to the mafia's favor. It was clearly the mafias GOAL to get 2 greens elected-- look at the votes. They knew a good portion of time would be spent figuring out if the leaders are red-- made even more likely with efficient blue sniping the night before-- specifically the fishball and Lucas kills. Which is EXACTLY what happened. Day 2 lynch vote: switched from ace to ver. again, switching between these two. a mafia would've known they were both green. a mafia wouldnt particularly care much who got lynched. that was the plan all along, wasnt it 0cz3c? a mafia would vote for one, or the other. with a possible slight preference for ver due to the controversy it would cause. and finally, suspicious clues: + Show Spoiler + I admit, this was a bit more difficult to find-- Quatol has an interesting clue style, unlike any i've seen before. 0cz = OCZ OCZ is a company that manufactures RAM (in fact, i have a pair of OCZ DDR3's in my comp right now). The company even makes a type of RAM called tripple channel. (3c) http://www.ocztechnology.com/ The day's clue mentioned "bowling" into someone. The 3rd day, its "ramming". Ram is actually mentioned twice in the clue: He charged towards the struggle and rammed into the plant. He proceeded to trample consistent with the clues becomming a bit more obvious over time. kaboom. Bonus evidence: + Show Spoiler + Lucas got blue sniped shortly after getting BG. 0cz3c and Lucas are brothers-- of course he's gonna be able to tell faster than anyone else if his bro has an important role. The facts are in your faces. Lets wrap this shyt up. Each of these pieces of evidence considerd individually would'nt paint the picture we require to prove guilt. But when you consider them all together-- shady behavior, matching clues, "random" blue BG snipe on day 1... smh. so to sum up: we get rid of 0cz3c, and we keep it truckin. MBH: *raspy voice* i am The Babyhands. i eat mafia for breakfast. extra milk. Mafia: omg wtf its the gotdamn Babyhands! run for your lives! MBH: Yes, thats right, my little cockroaches. Run... run faaar faaaaar away. But no matter how far you get, i will be behind you... breathing on your heels. You feel it, dont you? You feel my breath on your ankles... thats how close i am. I'm commin for that azz. Thank you for answering my questions. I kinda knew my questions about L were a bit bias cause he angered me earlier from his uncalled for remarks on me. I also agree with some of your 0cz3c reasoning. Much you have to say makes sense. Though do you have another suspected person you would like us to look at? I do believe we have a double lynch. | ||
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0cz3c
United States564 Posts
On May 23 2009 04:09 MrBabyHands wrote: In the interest of keeping the town on track for once, I will be outting mafia in small numbers instead of one big post calling out names-- in past games, that has just caused the town to start pointing fingers yet again and the votes end up split all over the place. So I will list my newest top suspect (caller was my last top suspect. he didnt last. nobody can withstand the babyhands. But to quickly address tricode's inquiries: + Show Spoiler + L protected me last night. I decided to contact L several hours after the ace and ver debacle when there were talks of vigi'ing me. After figuring out his role I PMed L my top suspects in case i died. I also asked for medic protection because i was certain dreamflower would target me and all my analysis would be lost before it was complete (i dont post my accusations until i'm positive AND have proof to back it up.) L agreed with my suspects list. Shortly before the night was over, apparently he got in contact with dreamflower (even asked for her in the thread). I guess he managed to convince her to hit caller instead. And now here we are. No L, no df-- just me with my info and a bullseye on the reds. I never actually asked L to post in the thread tho-- that was all him. Here we go ---------------- When compiling evidence, i find it useful to concentrate on 3 areas: Suspicious behavior, suspicious voting, and suspicious clues. Caller had all 3. and now someone else does-- 0cz3c. Suspicious behavior: + Show Spoiler + First, theres this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93286¤tpage=77#1528 By the way, at least one of the following three is mafia. Caller RebirthofLegend nemY I may be simply pulling this out of my ass. However, 0cz3c's senses are tingling. Its not the fact that he actually listed a mafia in there (caller), but that he makes no attempt to even justify it. "senses are tingling"-- even i dont do that. Senses mean nothing without proof, and this just makes no sense. To add, if you read the post right above that, 0cz3c is lashing out at malongo for suggesting that they discuss who to vigi, including a list of names, one of which was 0cz3c. A wise old man once told me "A hit dog will holler." Earlier in the game, he sad: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93286¤tpage=45#891 Caller should be getting protection from at least one medic, by the way. come on y'all... look at that shit. In retrospect its pretty blatant isnt it? moving right along. Next, suspicous voting: + Show Spoiler + Mayor vote: voted for ver, switched to ace, then finally ended up on Mynock wishy washy voting among 2 innocents, then landing on a third party. This does NOT imply that Mynock is red tho. Instead, it implies that 0cz3c is trying to swing things to the mafia's favor. It was clearly the mafias GOAL to get 2 greens elected-- look at the votes. They knew a good portion of time would be spent figuring out if the leaders are red-- made even more likely with efficient blue sniping the night before-- specifically the fishball and Lucas kills. Which is EXACTLY what happened. Day 2 lynch vote: switched from ace to ver. again, switching between these two. a mafia would've known they were both green. a mafia wouldnt particularly care much who got lynched. that was the plan all along, wasnt it 0cz3c? a mafia would vote for one, or the other. with a possible slight preference for ver due to the controversy it would cause. and finally, suspicious clues: + Show Spoiler + I admit, this was a bit more difficult to find-- Quatol has an interesting clue style, unlike any i've seen before. 0cz = OCZ OCZ is a company that manufactures RAM (in fact, i have a pair of OCZ DDR3's in my comp right now). The company even makes a type of RAM called tripple channel. (3c) http://www.ocztechnology.com/ The day's clue mentioned "bowling" into someone. The 3rd day, its "ramming". Ram is actually mentioned twice in the clue: He charged towards the struggle and rammed into the plant. He proceeded to trample consistent with the clues becomming a bit more obvious over time. kaboom. Bonus evidence: + Show Spoiler + Lucas got blue sniped shortly after getting BG. 0cz3c and Lucas are brothers-- of course he's gonna be able to tell faster than anyone else if his bro has an important role. The facts are in your faces. Lets wrap this shyt up. Each of these pieces of evidence considerd individually would'nt paint the picture we require to prove guilt. But when you consider them all together-- shady behavior, matching clues, "random" blue BG snipe on day 1... smh. so to sum up: we get rid of 0cz3c, and we keep it truckin. MBH: *raspy voice* i am The Babyhands. i eat mafia for breakfast. extra milk. Mafia: omg wtf its the gotdamn Babyhands! run for your lives! MBH: Yes, thats right, my little cockroaches. Run... run faaar faaaaar away. But no matter how far you get, i will be behind you... breathing on your heels. You feel it, dont you? You feel my breath on your ankles... thats how close i am. I'm commin for that azz. LYNCH HIM. MBH IS ALMOST CONFIRMED MAFIA. ONLY REASON I STAYED ALIVE. TRUST ME. I'LL EXPLAIN BELOW. IF I'M WRONG, KILL ME. BUT HE IS ALMOST 100% MAFIA. Lynch him. This is a mafia hoping to use the swaying wind against me in order to save his own ass. I already answered and destroyed every point he makes here. Several times. If you haven't read my posts, MBH, do so. But do not simply regurgitate crap that we both know is wrong. "0cz3c's senses are tingling," if you haven't noticed, is entirely consistent with the tone I've used this entire game and also the tone I've used in essentially every mafia game I've played: sarcasm. I'm telling you exactly before that that the three may have no legitimacy; they simply represented suspects in my mind. Needed to get noticed. Needed to keep it short. People don't read my posts when they're long. You're one of those people, too, apparently. Mission's successful. Caller dead. Caller mafia. I lash out at people only if I KNOW that they're idiots. I don't think very highly of malongo's illogical statements. I'll tell him. Seeing as how the town could have been easily swayed by illogical statements (AS I HOPE THEY WON'T BE HERE; MBH IS AS CONSPICUOUS A MAFIA IF THERE EVER WERE ONE.), I had to speak up. I think poorly of RoL. He knows that. I know that. I'm sure most people know that. His pacified tone as of late has made me a bit less suspicious, but I'd still maintain him on that list. NOW LOOK HERE TOWN: MBH SAYS, ""Caller should be getting protection from at least one medic, by the way. " come on y'all... look at that shit. In retrospect its pretty blatant isnt it? moving right along." HE SAYS NOTHING. HE DOES NOT ANALYZE. HE POINTS OUT WHAT I HAVE ALREADY STATED MANY MANY TIMES IN MY ANALYSIS. HE'S LITERALLY GOING THROUGH A POST AND COPY AND PASTING THINGS. THEN HE SAYS, "moving right along," having said nothing, not planning to say anything, just simply hoping to save his own ass. I ASK ALL TOWNIES TO VOTE FOR HIM; I WILL TO MODKILL MYSELF IF HE IS NOT MAFIA (If I don't, and he's not, then you'll know I'm not mafia). MOVING ON. MY VOTING. I Voted only for whom I thought would be least likely mafia. At first, I thought it was Ver. His post made sense; it didn't seem like the Ver of last game. But then Ace ran for candidacy, and I thought that he more clearly represented a townie; in fact, I felt it was fairly obvious at the time I voted that he was a townie. His posting changed, and, for some reason, votes piled up for him. This terrified me. I spoke with Lucas about it, and he told me that he felt confident that Mynock was a townie (by the way Bockit, I lashed out at you because you insinuated that I was willing to manipulate my brother: you should have expected that.). So, sure, I thought. I trust my brother. Mynock doesn't have many votes. He's not really campaigning. VERY SAFE CHOICE. The fact that you, AN ALMOST CONFIRMED MAFIA, say this, "This does NOT imply that Mynock is red tho." TERRIFIES ME. THIS MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO RECONSIDER MYNOCK (IF DTS ALREADY HAVE, FORGIVE ME. I'm not in any circle.) THIS IS UTTER SHIT (FIRST TIME I'VE HAD TO USE THIS WORD) AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT. READ. "It was clearly the mafias GOAL to get 2 greens elected-- look at the votes. They knew a good portion of time would be spent figuring out if the leaders are red-- made even more likely with efficient blue sniping the night before-- specifically the fishball and Lucas kills. Which is EXACTLY what happened." WHAT? Are you for real? Even you must see how absurd a claim it is? Although you're mafia, this is REALLY THE BEST you could do? I mean. A self-fulfilling prophecy. AGAIN, read my posts. HE SAID, "Day 2 lynch vote: switched from ace to ver." I ALREADY EXPLAINED THIS. I voted for Ver because Mynock was willing to put himself on the lynching block. I voted against Ver because Ver was playing stupidly. That's undeniable. He counted Caller as an almost confirmed innocent. I wouldn't be shocked if he's wrong about many more. Certainly wrong about me. He turned up green. I'll admit it was wrong to vote for Ver, but, of the candidates at that time, he was undeniably the most sketchy. "that was the plan all along, wasnt it 0cz3c? " I DON'T KNOW YOU TELL ME. YOU'RE FABRICATING ALMOST OBVIOUS LIES. DO YOU HONESTLY THINK I'LL BE THE ONLY PERSON TO SEE RIGHT THROUGH THEM. BUT THANKS SO MUCH FOR CLINCHING IT WITH YOUR CLUES. "I admit, this was a bit more difficult to find-- Quatol has an interesting clue style, unlike any i've seen before." SEE, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THEM. YOU'RE LOOKING FOR CLUES THAT LINK TO ME. ALREADY A MISTAKE. FIRST RULE OF CRIMINAL PROFILING. AND YOU KNOW WHY THEY'RE DIFFICULT TO FIND, TOWN? BECAUSE THEY AREN'T THERE. LITERALLY. NO CLUE WILL LINK TO ME. I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE. I'LL MORE THAN WILLINGLY SHARE MY PROFILE WITH YOU GUYS. 0cz3c = oczec . Comes from the Polish word Ojciec, which means father. Now it's simply the ID I use. But consider this: why would LTT and Qatol use my name when my profile provides so much juicy information? Here's my profile: "A boat is a boat. A mystery box can be anything -- it can even be a boat! "The Mafia Forum Is Alive: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 "" The first part "A boat is a boat. A mystery box can be anything -- it can even be a boat!" comes from Family Guy. People chooses a mysterybox over a boat. The latter is a link to this topic (r rather, forum). Wealth of stuff to use. Boat. Mystery. Box. Ambiguity. Mafia Thread. And you honestly think Qatol and LTT would choose my name? NO. Now onto my public profile: It's in Latin. Since people don't seem to know it, I'll happily translate. It's from Cicero's In Catilinam. In 63 BC, there was a conspiracy against the Roman state. Catiline, an aristocrat who had failed in his run for consul the third time that year, had enough. Cicero got wave of the conspiracy, and he echoed four speeches against Catiline. This one, I believe is from his Second Speech. I may be wrong. It's been two years since I've read the passage. "Num negas audes? Quid taces? Convincam, si negas; video enim esse hic quosdam qui tecum una fuerunt. O di immortales!" You don't dare to deny it, do you? Why are you silent? I will convict/condemn/prosecute you, if you deny it; for I see that here there are certain men who were together with you. Oh immortal gods! That's what it means literally. Very, very, very accurate translation. Any questions about it, PM me or ask me in the topic. There. Woof. That's a lot to choose from. In fact, I don't see why my name would be the choice. Now see, this right here is an immediate stretch. "0cz = OCZ" You're cutting part of my name; not only that, you're also changing it. That's wrong. Definitely. TOWN PLEASE SEE THIS. And then you connect it with something very nebulous....PARTS OF A WORD? ARE YOU FOR REAL? WHAT THE HELL? THIS ISN'T CLUE SEARCHING. THIS IS COVERING UP. THIS IS LITERALLY PLEASE LYNCH SOMEONE I HAVE NO CLUES OR ANY EVIDENCE AGAINST BECAUSE I'M THE MOST OBVIOUS MAFIA HERE. JUST DO IT THIS DAY SO I GET AWAY WITH IT FOR ONE DAY. I MEAN, READ, "He charged towards the struggle and rammed into the plant. He proceeded to trample" PARTS OF A WORD TO LINK TO RAM TO LINK TO PART OF A NAME. SURE, GIVE ME 30 SECONDS, I CAN FIND THE SAME CRAP ABOUT EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THIS THREAD. TOWN, THIS IS AS CLEAR A MAFIA AS HE CAN BE. MYBABYHANDS IS MAFIA. LYNCH HIM. TRICODE IS ALSO PROBABLY MAFIA, AS HE'S DEFENDING THE LEGITIMACY OF SUCH INCREDIBLE STUPIDITY ALMOST IMMEDIATELY. I BEG YOU TO VOTE AGAINST HIM. HE IS ALMOST 100% MAFIA. I WILL MODKILL MYSELF RIGHT NOW. AND I WILL ASK QATOL OR LTT TO SHOW IT IN WRITING (THAT I'M MAKING THE CONTRACT). READ MY POST, PLEASE. | ||
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0cz3c
United States564 Posts
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
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0cz3c
United States564 Posts
"Lucas got blue sniped shortly after getting BG. 0cz3c and Lucas are brothers-- of course he's gonna be able to tell faster than anyone else if his bro has an important role. The facts are in your faces. Lets wrap this shyt up. Each of these pieces of evidence considerd individually would'nt paint the picture we require to prove guilt. But when you consider them all together-- shady behavior, matching clues, "random" blue BG snipe on day 1... smh." TOWN- I explained this sufficiently in my previous posts. Mafia are apparently deciding that they will stick to this. IF I WERE MAFIA, DON'T YOU THINK LUCAS WOULD HAVE GOTTEN WIND OF IT, SINCE YOU'RE CLAIMING I WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SEE THAT HE'S BG? SURELY IT WORKS BOTH WAYS. DON'T BUY THIS UTTER CRAP. "The facts are in your faces. Lets wrap this shyt up. Each of these pieces of evidence considerd individually would'nt paint the picture we require to prove guilt. But when you consider them all together-- shady behavior, matching clues, "random" blue BG snipe on day 1... smh." THE problem with this is that the facts are not in your face. I more than sufficiently explained and destroyed every sketchy argument you just presented. Next time try harder when you're trying to incriminate the innocent. Tenuous arguments won't work. "Each of these pieces of evidence considerd individually would'nt paint the picture we require to prove guilt. " Unfortunately, neither do they here. AND YOU KNOW IT. "smh" AND THIS IS ALL YOU CAN SAY. THIS. THIS IS YOUR CONCLUSION. THANKS FOR PRESENTING MY CASE. | ||
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0cz3c
United States564 Posts
VOTE FOR MBH. HE IS ALMOST ABSOLUTE MAFIA. | ||
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0cz3c
United States564 Posts
On May 23 2009 06:50 nemY wrote: Can we remove self-requested modkills from the game? This is starting to become bullshit... If you're the DT, scan me. If you're mafia, which means that you're complaining because you realize that you've lost a strategy, then be quiet. Discuss it after the game. CAN'T CHANGE RULES DURING A GAME. If I'm mafia, town, then I'M TELLING YOU I'M WILLING TO KILL MYSELF TODAY. AND YOU GET THE CHOICE OF TWO MORE POTENTIAL MAFIAS. IF MBH IS NOT MAFIA, I WILL MODKILL MYSELF. IF YOU ARE IN THE TOWN, THEN PROVE IT BY VOTING FOR MBH. HE IS ALMOST CERTAINLY MAFIA. LOOK AT HIS POSTING; HIS TENUOUS STRATEGY AGAINST ME. ANYONE WHO REPUDIATES MY CLAIMS LOOK AT VERY CAREFULLY IF I AM TO BE LYNCHED. BECAUSE MBH IS CLEARLY MAFIA. PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING. I'd be careful nemY, you're still on my list of potential suspects. | ||
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United States3119 Posts
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
First of all, no deals. No "please modkill me if X happens." This was stated with Ver and I am stating it again. If you request to be modkilled, you will immediately be killed. I have decided that conditional modkills are not fair play and thus have disallowed them. Second of all, please be aware of what getting modkilled entails for you. (From the rules) Anyone who is modkilled may not play in one of my games until they have proven themselves to be active players in another game (one such as Pyrrhuloxia's). I am hoping the next host will back me up on enforcement of this rule, thus disallowing anyone who gets modkilled from playing in the next veteran game. Other consequences may be agreed upon in the future as well, but that was the only thing I could think up at the time. 0cz3c, if you still wish to use potentially getting yourself modkilled as a persuasive tool, I will not stop you. However, please be aware of what it entails. Please note that Ver agreed to these conditions when he was modkilled. | ||
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Tricode
United States538 Posts
[QUOTE]On May 23 2009 04:09 MrBabyHands wrote: TOWN, THIS IS AS CLEAR A MAFIA AS HE CAN BE. MYBABYHANDS IS MAFIA. LYNCH HIM. TRICODE IS ALSO PROBABLY MAFIA, AS HE'S DEFENDING THE LEGITIMACY OF SUCH INCREDIBLE STUPIDITY ALMOST IMMEDIATELY. I BEG YOU TO VOTE AGAINST HIM. HE IS ALMOST 100% MAFIA. I WILL MODKILL MYSELF RIGHT NOW. AND I WILL ASK QATOL OR LTT TO SHOW IT IN WRITING (THAT I'M MAKING THE CONTRACT). READ MY POST, PLEASE. [/QUOTE] I only said much makes sense (not everything), but I do see your point as well. You have things in your argument that make sense as well. But to be honest i only read both of your arguments 1 time. This is something I am going to have to read a few times between the both of you over and over again and try my best to pick the most reasonable choice. I will also have to see what you guys say later as well. Ocz3c. I highly recommenced not pissing people off when you make your point. It's one of Ace's bad traits that kinda get's him killed. I'll say this if you think I'm mafia. Go find some nice solid evidence. You probably won't. So if you don't like the what could be the weak evidence put against you. Then don't do the same crap to me. I'm not going to defend mrbabyhands. In fact, I still have my suspicions. I want to know who else he suspects though. he says he has tons of information. Though we do have evidence that looks like it can link to him. So I want to see this 'information' he wants to dish out at us. Cause we have a double lynch and i'm going to take guess and think he is one of the candidates until proven otherwise. Right now i think many of us are really trying to get our barrings straighten out. Now here is a thing. Mrbabyhands did use L to help convince DF to kill caller. Any ideas why OCz3c? In either case. I once again suggest doing your best for the town with much information you can provide. I am sure there some of us who read long posts. I for sure as hell do. But at the same time that means i have to actually take more time to sit down and register what you said and compare it with other information. Meaning you might not get a response or by the time you would receive a response it would be to late cause new information has come out. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
Day 1 “Chuiu toppled to the deck. LTT and Qatol picked up the bodies and threw them overboard into the shark-infested waters. They breathed a sigh of relief, but it was short lived. LTT turned just as something bowled into him, knocking him down into the now crimson waters. Qatol turned to see what was happening when a voice spoke from behind him.” Here we have first off, mafia bodies disposed of to ravenous sharks, then, ltt is bowled into the water which leads to his death as well. When it comes to this I believe the link could possibly be PLEXA Why you ask? If you google his signature “Spirit will set you free” it will bring you to a tl page here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81492¤tpage=3 On that page has a picture of a shark, as well as a man with his hands outstretched, Upon closer consideration you see it’s a livecast match, between mbc and lecaf. That picture matchup is of shark vs jaedong, who has been nicknamed kitty for this instance. What do cats to when they attack someone, pounce or leap, and if they hit someone it could bowl them forward. Going with the style of cat clue as well, SCAMP has a cat in his profile (same sort of link of cat bowling people over) as well as his name meaning “1 : rascal, rogue 2 : an impish or playful young person” an impish or playful person or a rogue/rascal could fight someone by charging them and pushing them, as watching someone fall into water would be amusing to them. Now for death 2 day 1 “Qatol turned to face this new threat, but was unable to locate the speaker. Suddenly, Qatol saw a blur as his assailant leapt at him, planting a knife in Qatol's chest. LTT's attacker came over and helped push Qatol into the water with the others.” We see again the falling into the water (all bodies fed to sharks) which could refer to plexa but I doubt it. We have instead, someone who qatol couldn’t see, then lept out at him. This would seem to me that he would be either a small man, or invisible. As I doubt anyone is invisible iw ould go for a small man. For the most part. This could link to HEAVONEARTH as in his profile he has linked to his mybrute page. Mybrutes are small, tiny warriors, so leaping up into a taller qatol and killing him wouldn’t be so unexpected. As well, his specific brute has ability to run fast and charge, leaving a blurry trail behind him. MRBABYHANDS possibly as baby would imply small. Day 2 analysis “LucasWoJ was fully injected, but he could still hear the brutality even as he fled. The assailant bellowed again and started slamming the now empty syringe into LucasWoJ's face repeatedly until his face caved in and the only sounds left were guttural yells, the squishy impacts, and the sound of blood splatter. Come morning, there would be little above the neck that could identify LucasWoJ's corpse.” Day 3 post confirms this was caller. Next death “Meanwhile, the second intruder, initially transfixed by the brutal killing, suddenly remembered that there was another target and began the hunt. He climbed the stairs and poked his head into each of the bedrooms but couldn't find anyone. After passing the set of curtains with a conspicuous pair of shoes sticking out for the third time, he heard mikeymoo sneeze. He turned around and shot both feet, causing mikeymoo to fall from his hiding place. The man approached the writhing mikeymoo, dropped his gun, and grabbed one of his fingers. He slowly put pressure on it until it snapped and mikeymoo let out a scream that dwarfed any sounds he had made before. The attacker continued until he ran out of fingers upon which time he pulled out a knife and stabbed mikeymoo in the throat. As his life left him, mikeymoo chuckled at the absurdity of the knife solving the problem of his hoarse, sore throat.” This entire sequence has the feeling of a sense of surrealness. Someone who remembered there was another person to kill. So he went and looked into bedrooms, one at a time. Finds his target and attacks, first immobilizing them, then cruely torturing before the final kill. A link to this could be TRICODE quotation “1 2, he is coming for you” line which is a reference to freddy krugar. Who is a serial killer, who kills people. So one room at a time he persued his victim, till he found him, and slowly killed him. Many others have commented earlier how they thought this might point to dreamflower as it seemed to be like a dream, well, freddy killed people in dreams. Also connection to SCARAMANGA. As he stopped to observe the first attack before he moved on to his own victim. One of the people in profile referenced is kangmin, ie nal_ra who is currently a commentator in korea, hense he would stop to watch. He also has by.flash or young ho and Shine or sang won listed. Both of which are players who would pursue their opponent to the end, preventing them from being able to fight them again. Breaking of the fingers could symbolize the inability of mikeymoo to ever compete against them in their sport again? Weak link but exists Kill 3 “In a different part of town, Fishball was running for his life. His left arm was hanging uselessly at his side, the result of a blow from the man calmly following him. Fishball finally reached the tool shed behind his house. He started fumbling with the lock in an attempt to get the axe inside. He got the door open in time for a kick from his pursuer to knock him to the floor. Fishball coughed while the other man surveyed the inside of the shed. Having made his selection, the attacker grabbed one of the tools leaning against the inside of the shed and kneeled down next to Fishball. "This would have been a lot less painful for you if you had faced me like a man. You need to develop a stronger backbone; I am going to help you with that," quipped the hit man. He then shoved the rake in his hand into Fishball from behind, handle first, as far as he could. He left Fishball flailing on the ground, coming to terms with his newfound confidence but lacking the strength to do anything with it except die.” I would suggest that this links to REBIRTHOFLEGEND. He has a quotation of a ban by hot_bid “Reason: I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you want to troll, I can tell you I have no patience for that. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long moderation career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you stop the stupidity now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, in one week, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will ban you.” This would suggest to me that he is possibly red. As Fishball was sporting a limped arm, much like he ad been warned once before? Then because he didn’t learn, he is chased, and killed, and at the end makes it seem as if he learned the error of his ways. Day 3 First kill “"Well, if you aren't going to cook anything for us..." The smaller man snapped his fingers and infundibulum burst into flames.” Possible linkage to TRICODE, as freddy Krueger kills people in dreams by bursting them into flames. Possible link to HEAVONEARTH as of his tiny mybrute, and I know grenades are weapons in that game, REBIRTHOFLEGEND as in the sense of the poem he has it ends with explode, something could have burst and lit infundi on fire. Second kill “L hunched in the corner of the freezer, trying to make himself as small as possible. The banging on the freezer door was only interrupted by infundibulum's screams. The screams went from muffled to painfully loud as the larger man finally managed to solve the problem posed by the door. He quickly spotted L and started punching him repeatedly. Surprisingly, the blows didn't seem to hurt L as much as he had expected. With the hope of escape now flashing before him, L looked for something to ward off the attacker. He immediately noticed that infundibulum had clearly not defrosted the freezer in months. He was thankful. He broke off one of the icicles and tried to stab his attacker's face with it, but he couldn’t figure out exactly where to stab. L was trying to sort out his confusion when a blow from a blunt object crushed his head. L toppled to the floor. The larger man left the door ajar as he left, ensuring that the freezer would get its long overdue defrosting.” This fight reminds of a HEAVONEARTH, as well, mybrute character, runs in attacks and punches, hes smaller so his fists wouldn’t do the type of damage you would expect. Next, because of his size, you would have a harder time hitting him. The death could also link to TRICODE. This is because the death happened in 3 stages, the first two times fail, and the third succeeds. 1st time when L flees, second when his first hit fails to kill L, third time when he finishes L off just before he is stabbed by an icicle. This could point to him as well. Third kill was on caller by dreamflower, im assuming we can skip it. I would also note Last kill “Someone exited the hotel into the garden in time to see this struggle unfold. He charged towards the struggle and rammed into the plant. The jaws unclenched and Caller’s bones spilled to the ground. Letting out a cry, the would-be savior pulled on the stem until the plant was uprooted. He proceeded to trample dreamflower until only green goo remained.” Not entirely sure on this one. | ||
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MrBabyHands
United States72 Posts
On May 23 2009 06:50 0cz3c wrote: some stuff i'm not gonna argue with you, little man. type as much as you wish. my track record speaks for itself. i havent been wrong about a mafia in the 3 games i've played on here. never. not even once. in fact, i dont recall an instance where i whiffed an analysis of ANYbody in the public thread. when i show my cards, they're right. period. i'm just that good. can you do that? are you as good as me? i'm serious-- these aren't rhetorical questions. look, man. face it, you just got babyhanded. you've been inducted into the babyhand club. members get a free t-shirt. ![[image loading]](http://greek9.com/tux/bht.jpg) | ||
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Tricode
United States538 Posts
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
I don't feel like playing either with all the bullshit going around, but you know what? I'm still here. 0cz3c would you calm the hell down? Stop blowing a gasket, really. It isn't helping anyone. Anyway, I'm glad it is the weekend. Now I actually have time to do some clue analysis. As for MBH and 0cz. Both of you are high on my radar for being mafia. As for Tricode, BC have you been copying my notes? I made that connection to L's death as well. Furthermore, Tricode appears to be very combative in all of his posts. Yes, I do behavior too. Anyway, I think I'm going to vote for Tricode atm. My second choice is still up in the air. | ||
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Tricode
United States538 Posts
I'm going to take my own advice and help the town till the end. I'll go with this, BloodyC0bbler screwed up in his inner circle when Caller was in it. L screwed up with pointing fingers at Ace and Ver. And Right now we got lucky to get Caller killed. it seems to weird that L figured it out in the last second (with the help of Mrbabyhands) to get caller. Even after talking with me on the forums Caller for some reason says he screwed up and just admits he is mafia. Showtime I would like you to please analyze a little more before you make your voting decision if you are really confident about your abilities then you will realize that i am not mafia. Don't screw up like Ver and Ace did. | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
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0cz3c
United States564 Posts
On May 23 2009 07:42 Qatol wrote: Ok I'm going to discuss modkills one more time. I am going to stick with my implementation from earlier in the game as well as the rules which go along with them. They will be discussed at length after this game, but I do not want to change the rules of the game midway through if at all possible. First of all, no deals. No "please modkill me if X happens." This was stated with Ver and I am stating it again. If you request to be modkilled, you will immediately be killed. I have decided that conditional modkills are not fair play and thus have disallowed them. Second of all, please be aware of what getting modkilled entails for you. (From the rules) Anyone who is modkilled may not play in one of my games until they have proven themselves to be active players in another game (one such as Pyrrhuloxia's). I am hoping the next host will back me up on enforcement of this rule, thus disallowing anyone who gets modkilled from playing in the next veteran game. Other consequences may be agreed upon in the future as well, but that was the only thing I could think up at the time. 0cz3c, if you still wish to use potentially getting yourself modkilled as a persuasive tool, I will not stop you. However, please be aware of what it entails. Please note that Ver agreed to these conditions when he was modkilled. I accept the following conditions (but I do not wish to be modkilled right now. I'll request it definitively if MBH does not show up red.). I will definitively ask for one then, and I will accept all the consequences. | ||
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