EPTMafia list:
Ace 95%
mrbabyhands 92%
Mynock 90%
MTF 80%
L 78%
Infinity21 70%
Traitor:
Nemy 90%
Innocents list:
Caller 97%
BC 93%
Malongo 85%
Tricode 84%
Lucaswoj 83%
Incognito 80%
Fusionsdf 77%
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Ver
United States2186 Posts
Mafia list: Ace 95% mrbabyhands 92% Mynock 90% MTF 80% L 78% Infinity21 70% Traitor: Nemy 90% Innocents list: Caller 97% BC 93% Malongo 85% Tricode 84% Lucaswoj 83% Incognito 80% Fusionsdf 77% | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
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Mynock
4492 Posts
On May 18 2009 08:42 Ver wrote: I will update this regularly so the town can have a guide as to who I think is innocent and guilty. Mafia list: Ace 95% mrbabyhands 92% Mynock 90% MTF 80% L 78% Infinity21 70% Traitor: Nemy 90% Innocents list: Caller 97% BC 93% Malongo 85% Tricode 84% Lucaswoj 83% Incognito 80% Fusionsdf 77% Denied. I think BC is very fishy. L is almost certainly innocent. Either LucasWoJ or Malongo are fishy. Incognito is fishy. I also think the Mafia isn't acting too organized this time, or at least aren't rowing for office as hard. The reason? You. I wasn't really impressed by your post Ver. Neither am I impressed by that list, but it will prove useful. There are way too many assesments I disagree with on there, and knowing my own position I can assume I'll be more correct here. I'll agree with nemY, Tricode and Infinity tho. That's about it. Way too many differences for my liking. I don't quite understand why the difference would be so strong though. Would we be looking at the same picture and see completely different things? Not likely if you're innocent. But what bugs me most is the way you play it now, which is almost identical to you being called out last game, and responding with a huge post. And suddenly you have a change of heart and want both Ace and me out? That's not confusing at all! | ||
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Ver
United States2186 Posts
Mafia list: Ace 95% Mynock 93% mrbabyhands 92% MTF 80% L 78% Infinity21 70% Traitor: Nemy 90% Innocents list: Caller 97% BC 93% Malongo 85% Tricode 84% Lucaswoj 83% Incognito 80% Fusionsdf 77% | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
And fusionsdf has posted like once. He posted one word I think. And yet he's 77% innocent? | ||
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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On May 18 2009 08:35 Mynock wrote: Ver disappeared (no feedback whatsoever, he's essentially running on his name alone now). Ace is always a solid vote (good player, and there's only 1/5 chance he's mafia to begin with even before the roles are given out). I'm active and trying to react to whatever comes up. Oh man, please never say anything like this again. This was my reasoning for voting for Qatol in the last game and we all know how that turned out... | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
Would we be looking at the same picture and see completely different things? Not likely if you're innocent. Most fail post ever IMO. | ||
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0cz3c
United States564 Posts
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Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
 L's quote is "D". That is all thats in his profile and his name doesn't mean much. Qatol killed Pyrr with a bow. A bow can look like a "D". | ||
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0cz3c
United States564 Posts
I'd like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that I have already announced my candidacy for mayor. Not really sure what's holding the votes back. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
I'll also only address the part of your post directly with my name in it, since if a post doesn't include my name I skip it. Ace is taking this too far. He had his rope. He had his opportunity to go appear innocent. And he hung himself on it. It is not in the town's interests to lynch Nemy. Because here's the thing, we don't want to lynch the traitor. The traitor has no ACTUAL power. The traitor's only power is influence and words. He can cause mass chaos. But if we know who the traitor is, he is POWERLESS. Nemy is not mafia unless he is a sacrifice. That means we have no reason to lynch him! Yet Ace is going all out trying to get this. Look at this from a behavior standpoint: Mafia are the ones who are this aggressive. See RoL and Attackzerg trying to get Ace lyched/discredited in BC's first game. Now for a direct comparison: remember when Ace defended mikeymoo in Caller's game (Ace was innocent so was Mikeymoo)? He was voracious in defending mikeymoo, but he was not voracious in lynching BC even though BC was full of BS. Yes he wanted BC lynched but he didn't go crazy like he is now. Because that's a sure sign of mafia behavior: being overaggressive to get a lynch. In case anyone wants to relate to the Folca/Ace scenario, that is a completely different thing. Because then Folca roleclaimed with a specific intent to prove something, i,e that Ace was mafia. Thus in that circumstance Ace's logic train is true and the correct choice of action (and he would've done it if he was townie I'm sure). Because if you lynch the accuser you know everything about the accused role. However, now here Nemy just plain roleclaimed. WHY ON EARTH WOULD WE LYNCH HIM? WE GET NO BENEFIT. NOTHING. Under the present circumstances there is NO reason to lynch Nemy. Ace you screwed up. This is not Savior sense. This is not to the benefit of the town. And you people who agree with his logic (mikeymoo, bockit), you guys better think through exactly what he's recommending. Game 3 and now are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. Furthermore, the Ace voting train, you guys are all suspect. You people are clearly trying to push him into mayor over me. Not gonna happen. I'll dissect through suspects in a bit. Sorry - but this is where you fucked up. I've said it plenty of times, I'm aggressive because it's how I feel like being. Whether I'm townie or Mafia I play with a free conscience because I honestly don't think anybody can read anything I do and you've just proven my point. You can also ask Mr.BabyHands - I've played an aggressive townie style before. It's not a Mafia trait at all. Now onto your analysis of nemy. You've failed to point out something significant: The difference between this game and the game with BC was that I pointed out that BC might be the Village Idiot hence we don't even care what happens to him. The real danger is lynching mikeymoo because we have no information about him based on what BC did. This scenario is different as there is no one being accused - this is just a role claim at a bad time. What also makes this different is that unlike when Empyrean claimed DT on Day 1, nemy lied. In Mafia 2 I had no reason to lynch Empyrean as soon as I got Mayor because empyrean only claimed to be a DT and didn't say anything about having a way to prove it. So we just let him be. nemy got caught in a lie. Badly. See the difference? If nemy was a DT that just played his hand wrong we could surely just say ok buddy, no office for you and keep things hush after that. He lied on got caught and that changes everything as an innocent doesn't have to lie to the town on information that would help us greatly. Hell, he STILL hasn't even given it to us and when asked he tried to be cool like me - but failed. Also if nemy is a traitor - of course we lynch him. Do we have a better suspect? I don't think so. If he's a traitor that means he isn't working for the town which means he should die. Simple, really. See how all these scenarios are different? Nothing anyone says can explain why nemy lied. Nothing. So he gets the lynch. As for my vote train - meh. Whats so suspect about it? People know a good candidate when they see one. As for me being buddy/buddy with Mynock - what's the problem? I've supported him in every game I've played and there's no secret about it. I don't even have any clue what his role could possibly be but I've said this so many times - there isn't any reliable way to find out anybody's role right now so I base my votes off of ABILITY. Since I believe Mynock is one of the best candidates I voted for him. go ahead and try to analyze that, you'll end up like Versatile and we see how her logic worked out. So once again I'll state your analysis has FAILED. Based on pure playing ability myself and Mynock should be in office over anyone else, with the exception of maybe BC. Showtime! and Caller do better outside of leadership roles. I'm interested in hearing your retort to this post. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On May 18 2009 08:42 Ver wrote: I will update this regularly so the town can have a guide as to who I think is innocent and guilty. Mafia list: Ace 95% mrbabyhands 92% Mynock 90% MTF 80% L 78% Infinity21 70% Traitor: Nemy 90% Innocents list: Caller 97% BC 93% Malongo 85% Tricode 84% Lucaswoj 83% Incognito 80% Fusionsdf 77% quoting this for the epic fail pic I will post later | ||
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MTF
United States1739 Posts
On May 18 2009 08:53 Ver wrote: Update time! Mafia list: Ace 95% Mynock 93% mrbabyhands 92% MTF 80% L 78% Infinity21 70% Traitor: Nemy 90% Innocents list: Caller 97% BC 93% Malongo 85% Tricode 84% Lucaswoj 83% Incognito 80% Fusionsdf 77% The only person I agree with on that entire list is MrBabyHands. I'm very uncertain as to why you have L and I both so high up there when it contradicts what you said about Nemy. This indicates that you assume we've been charged with a role of confusing the town whilst simultaneously being among those that are "almost assuredly town". Your methods confuse me and knowing where at least my cards lie, I know they are flawed. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Holy shit doesn't this look familiar (^_^) Funny thing about that guy - he was wrong on every single person in his list. Oh my Ver, you should drop this act now. It's not a good trend to follow. (v_v) | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
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Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
Regardless of the rest of Ver's post (I still have to decide what I think about that) I want an innocent in office and I think that since Ver is pretty much guaranteed at this point (we haven't been able to knock any of his voters off even when trying to stop the nemy train) I'd like to disrupt any potential mafia plans involving Ace/Mynock (the other contenders, not saying you are mafia, rather that you could be, so why not get rid of you both from the equation) and swap in showtime at the last minute. Putting this out there now, if it looks like mynock will get in over ace during the hopeful transition of votes to showtime I'll be swapping back. | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
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Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
If nemy looks like he's going to get into office then I'll be going back to Ace as well. | ||
mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
Hell I might just abstain or possibly go back to Mynock, since I'm again more sure that he is NON-RED. That's pretty much the only criteria I'm trying to go off for the pardoner, as a mafia pardoner can eff things up pretty badly in late game. Ace hasn't been acting too suspicious in my eyes, but all the sudden voting for him looks fishy. | ||
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