I didn't want to post this right now because talking about me is unimportant to night actions. However, you just won't let the issue go. Ace, for the last time 1. VERSATILE CALLED YOU OUT 2. SHE FLIPPED BLUE 3. SHE KNOWS YOU BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THIS GAME 4. THEREFORE YOU ARE A SUSPECT How hard is that to understand?
The election If you look at my early voters, you will notice that the early people to vote for me were: 1. People who have worked with me previously (Ver, LTT,Incognito) - They likely felt they could get a good read on me if mafia and that I would be a solid leader if town. 2. A first-come first-serve player (malongo) - Voted for reasons outside the game. 3. A random zombie vote (Heavonearth) - Fishy, but we get players who are like this every game. 4. Someone who voted for me based on my reputation (Truthbringer) - I have a solid reputation. He wanted a strong leader.
When did I EVER blame getting Versatile lynched on you? Please show me the post.
I presented JeeJee as someone who was far more inactive than usual. He showed up after that and basically hasn't stopped accusing me of being mafia ever since. How do mafia react to being accused? That's right, they generally are very aggressive about finding a different target. Why did I switch my votes? Because the town learns more from Versatile's words than from JeeJee's.
Why would the mafia ever even THINK about hitting you now? That makes 0 sense. YOU ARE A SUSPECT. One would hope the mafia have learned their lesson from last game. Because the mafia would have to be stupid to hit you at this point, why should we put a medic on you? With that in mind, I think the vigilantes might want to take a look at the 2 suspects that versatile left behind: You and me. Let's see.... 1 lynch, we want to reduce mafia KP as fast as we can, and I can't be killed except by lynch. Yep, that looks to me like you should be vigi-killed and I should be lynched.
On May 02 2009 18:49 Vivi57 wrote: Meh, I've been so lazy about this game.
when I get the chance, I'm going to do some clue analysis and try to build on what we have. It's just so hard to get myself to do this knowing that last game, we didn't get a single mafia through clue analysis.
On May 01 2009 14:52 Incognito wrote: Goodies from a DT.
"only too see an uncomprehensable phrase before the tv exploded" IS a clue.
The "clumsiness" clue does not point to Qatol.
Enjoy.
Did everyone miss this? The strongest link to Qatol isn't a clue towards him. Is the lynch based off vengence or just not caring? Is there actually anything to go on for this lynch?
As far as I can tell, the lynch on me is based off of my contributions towards killing: 1. A townie who was hiding 2. A veteran who seemed to have a good read on one of the strongest players in the game 3. A player who was screaming to have me lynched and ignoring all explanations for why he might be wrong.
The other thing that people didn't like was me calling out JeeJee for acting out of character. He latched onto the clue you mentioned and has been accusing me with it. Do you even have a case against me without that clue JeeJee?
Personally, I think we should be lynching QuickStriker.
On May 02 2009 12:20 QuickStriker wrote: I somehow finally realized this mafia game isn't based on who exactly killed this and that person but basically a game where the townies have to try to figure out the codes and hints laid out from the OP/host of the game and unlock them to know the true meanings and words behind what's written to go further to capture the enemies...
As far as I can tell, he's saying that BC is organizing his day posts and we should look at clue analysis. Then he goes off talking about his nephew. In other words, its a lot of words which barely contribute to the thread at all. Isn't that generally a mafia tactic? Appearing active by posting but not really contributing? I just don't understand why people aren't making a bigger deal of this...........
Since people will inevitably question why I have been gone since before the day post, I got laid off yesterday and mafia was not a priority.
Malongo, what do you think makes LordWeird a stronger candidate than QuickStriker? We have clue and behavioral connections to both. Could you please explain to me why you prefer LordWeird? I'm perfectly willing to swap if someone gives me a reason to. I just don't see why LordWeird is the preferred lynch.
completely inactive , no excuses / haven’t voted or anything. 54. YDG 45. Aznvaliance 39. Blue_Arrow
List of people with 1 one-liner post, but posted SOMETHING:
10. Ver - He endorsed me early and mentioned he wouldn't be around much until early this week. Has remained inactive despite this. 13. Mandalor - "just posting to say I'm not inactive. I'll try to catch up later." 19. Hyperbola - "Hello my fellow townies. Just letting y'all know that I am active I've just been rather busy lately." 47. Monoxide - “mikeymoo and I are going to be inactive for about 24 hours due to an upcoming final. Sorry” Has mentioned that he has further exams and has defended himself. No constructive posts. 50. scamp - Posted about his reasoning for voting, said he is too intimidated to post 51. goodwill - "cool, let's lynch quickstriker next" "I think our next lynch candidate should be one of the individuals in the detectives' circles, the chance of one family being able to hit 2 detectives together is one out of 3025." 53. coolcrimefighter - "well I've recently gotten addicted to altitude so thats why I've been inactive to make myself unshady here are some infoz about me I am a D protoss my name is coolcrimefighter I am not shady" "indeed" "I think you guys are reading into my name too much" 55. Mista - “Still taking my own sweet time ..” “Phew i have alot to catch up on"
Ok I have been asked to take more direct control of the town. I feel this idea should be expanded further. Right now it looks to me like only Malongo is posting new suspects. We need to collectively become far more active about accusing people. If you don't feel secure in publicly posting something, send it to someone else and have them post it for you. The town has to be proactive if we want to force the mafia to make mistakes. With this thought in mind, I will start.
As it has been mentioned, I HAVE been active behind the scenes. The current lynch people have all been talked about at least a little bit, but I feel it is more productive to introduce the people that I find pretty suspicious that have not been discussed much.
Chuiu: Early in the game he had a small discussion about clues. He basically said we shouldn't worry about them until we have more batches. He gave a little input about things he thinks might be clues. He discussed the possibility that there might be 2 mafia families right after Bockit died. He accused JeeJee based off the Bockit PMs I posted. He tried to find a link to Bockit as a basis to clue analysis. Since that point he has posted basically nothing! Basically, Chuiu has totally vanished once people started making serious accusations. He pointed to JeeJee and then let the town start accusing each other without contributing at all.
Camlito: I understand he wants to lay low. At the same time, other than voting, he has been SILENT. He knows the town has been floundering around looking for decent targets and yet he hasn't been trying to help at all? This seems odd to me. I expected him to use a mouth by the point. However, I haven't seen much resembling that.
SemiOldGuy: I expected him to be far more active this game, both in the open and behind the scenes. Has he even been talking to anyone? Nobody I'm talking to has really heard much from him at all. Every day he pops up, says a few lines about the current plan and then totally disappears again. He isn't really involving himself in dialogues at least in the thread. He talked a lot about the CK early on, which makes me wonder if he is himself a CK. Finally, he starts talking about how a majority of abstainers causes a no-lynch. (I missed this when it was originally posted or I would have called it out sooner.) This is completely false! There is nothing in the rules about that. It looks to me like he was hoping to scare a mafia family out of abstaining in order to pick off a few/find a few for contracts. Other than that, he has done very little to point out new targets for the town. Completely out of character for him.
Zapling: His only activity at all has been complaining and one strange clue connection attempt. Hasn't even TRIED to help the town.
On April 24 2009 00:16 3clipse wrote: Shit. Well, I guess we can't expect to lynch a mafioso on the first night.
We did last game -.-
On April 28 2009 17:34 ZaplinG wrote: I vote ace to be lynched.
On May 01 2009 14:34 ZaplinG wrote: This game is running in turtle time :X
On May 03 2009 00:00 ZaplinG wrote: Thats a pretty sweet incomprehensible phrase you got there next to your name, Mynock...
Mynock: He has been discussed earlier as being very quiet. That has changed a little recently. However, he is still not posting like I have expected. In previous games, he made long analytical posts. Everything was thought out. This time he keeps saying he has no time and is making non-committal posts. No strong accusations at all. Here is an example:+ Show Spoiler +
On April 26 2009 22:36 mikeymoo wrote: Regarding Monoxide, I can let the town know this (I know him irl, but we don't live in the same city anymore).
He was done finals a couple days ago, and had the whole of yesterday to post. I'm pretty sure he's reading the thread, as he keeps asking me over msn if I've read mafia or how the game is going etc etc.
In previous discussions I've had with him, he tells me how OP mafia is, and how easy it would be to win with red alignment. His mind games are very strong, so although he's not posting, he's both a liability and an asset (depending on his alignment, obviously).
If he checks TL, it's probably in the afternoon at his time, so in roughly 6 hours I'd imagine. I shot him a PM to tell him to get active and explain himself, essentially. I think I played one game with him and he never asked how the game was going or what not. He wasn't mafia that game. I don't think the evidence is insurmountable, but it's something to keep in mind.
At this point in time, I'd lean towards behaviour analysis moreso than clue analysis.
Those are some good points, and cast quite a shadow over Monoxide. But obviously we first have to hear his version of the story.
Suddenly he has started accusing myself and vivi57. This is completely against his character so far this game. Finally, his vote this cycle:
On May 02 2009 22:19 Mynock wrote: I vote for Qatol.
I don't even care if he's Mafia. He deserves this.
What? Explain please.
You will notice that my emphasis is on behavioral analysis. This is because my Clue analysis has been pathetic with respect to BC's clues in previous games (I couldn't get his clues right even after the game with the mafia list sitting in front of me). They are HARD. Please keep this in mind when you do clue analysis. Something like clumsiness = uff da is unlikely to be true because BC would never make a clue that simple.
Vigis: Hit active players! Malongo and RebirthOfLegend are good targets! Detectives: If we managed to miss any of you and you are still alive... Roleclaim! Work with us all! Townies and veterans: your opinions are not important to us. Your votes are not important to us.
On May 08 2009 08:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote: ROFL just had to post my fucked pm, your role was replaced to reg mafia you jackass, and you knew qatol was gf, not you!
On May 08 2009 08:02 Qatol wrote: Excuse me... I only had 2 blues roleclaim to me. Vivi57 and Showtime!
Both of these we pegged on behavior analysis beforehand anyway.
Lucas and 3clipse figured out Pyrr's role from their billion PM's but we never got a direct roleclaim from anyone that we didn't already know.
Oh and btw my absences were legit up until the last two days when I didn't need to post since it was game over. I did not want to be mafia since I knew I'd have very little time, but alas that was not to be the case. In addition the game started half a week earlier than it was originally planned to be.
you liar you never miss to play when you are townie. I had you since day 2. no kidding read the thread. And the townies have to learn to play with less pms, thats only help for the mafia.
Seriously true. Over 150 PMs to me in the first week. It was just insane. Kinda the reason I was quieter than I should have been haha.
On May 08 2009 08:10 Tricode wrote: I fucking new Lucaswoj was mafia fucking ever since 2nd day clues i been suspecting him but I didn't know how to put it all together to convince the town. Mother fucking >< Knew it!
On May 08 2009 08:02 Qatol wrote: Excuse me... I only had 2 blues roleclaim to me. Vivi57 and Showtime!
Both of these we pegged on behavior analysis beforehand anyway.
Lucas and 3clipse figured out Pyrr's role from their billion PM's but we never got a direct roleclaim from anyone that we didn't already know.
Oh and btw my absences were legit up until the last two days when I didn't need to post since it was game over. I did not want to be mafia since I knew I'd have very little time, but alas that was not to be the case. In addition the game started half a week earlier than it was originally planned to be.
you liar you never miss to play when you are townie. I had you since day 2. no kidding read the thread. And the townies have to learn to play with less pms, thats only help for the mafia.
Seriously true. Over 150 PMs to me in the first week. It was just insane. Kinda the reason I was quieter than I should have been haha.
Ill never talk to you again. After all my work... i feel used... it hurts you know?
Hey, I didn't even know I was mafia until after your posters.
On May 08 2009 08:02 Qatol wrote: Excuse me... I only had 2 blues roleclaim to me. Vivi57 and Showtime!
Both of these we pegged on behavior analysis beforehand anyway.
Lucas and 3clipse figured out Pyrr's role from their billion PM's but we never got a direct roleclaim from anyone that we didn't already know.
Oh and btw my absences were legit up until the last two days when I didn't need to post since it was game over. I did not want to be mafia since I knew I'd have very little time, but alas that was not to be the case. In addition the game started half a week earlier than it was originally planned to be.
you liar you never miss to play when you are townie. I had you since day 2. no kidding read the thread. And the townies have to learn to play with less pms, thats only help for the mafia.
Seriously true. Over 150 PMs to me in the first week. It was just insane. Kinda the reason I was quieter than I should have been haha.
Ill never talk to you again. After all my work... i feel used... it hurts you know?
Hey, I didn't even know I was mafia until after your posters.
Next time let me die like a martir instead of making the fool of me
But you saved my life for a day! Sorry, but you were more useful to me alive.
EPT
your role was replaced to reg mafia you jackass, and you knew qatol was gf, not you!
