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Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 03 2009 06:22 GMT
#1641
I still dont understand how the clues work, are they always one single word? The only clues i understand so far are the MoC ones.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
April 03 2009 06:25 GMT
#1642
W00t, I was right on the mark on the Snet clues on Day 3. BOO YA!
Carbon FC
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
April 03 2009 06:29 GMT
#1643
Yeah I don't understand a lot of the clues either, we linked Scooter to clues meant for Snet and we linked Humbug to clues meant for Leperkhan. We linked Leperkhan to clues meant for Centric...

But thank you so much for the game Chuiu, you did a great job!
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
April 03 2009 06:30 GMT
#1644
Thanks to incognito as well.
aZnvaLiaNce
Profile Joined June 2007
United States942 Posts
April 03 2009 06:47 GMT
#1645
On April 03 2009 15:19 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Lol aznvaliance protects me even after i accuse him of being mafia and i got medic protection everynight (even double loving one night) <3

great job town!

Can't believe I didn't link that snake and cross clue to Snet, I even said it was probably someone with an S and lower case t in their name but somehow I couldn't find someone that matched that...

I figured trying something for once. I thought that if I blocked a mafia hit on you, it would give the mafia the impression that you were blue. I was hoping they would try to hit you again the next night and laugh at their failures. That's why I did what I did. As for protecting you the first time, I decided to let my actions speak for my innocence. Of course, you would never know for sure who or what I was until the game ended, which I hoped cleared me of any doubts of my actions.
Isnt that worth fighting for? Isnt that worth dying for? - Morpheus
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 03 2009 06:49 GMT
#1646
I actually thought Pyrr was mafia after he started accusing BC incredibly harshly. But then I was dead so I had nothing to say lol
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iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
April 03 2009 06:51 GMT
#1647
gg. i was pretty useless this round but ill try to step it up on the next game.
Woo Jung Ho
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
April 03 2009 07:00 GMT
#1648
On April 03 2009 15:47 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2009 15:19 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Lol aznvaliance protects me even after i accuse him of being mafia and i got medic protection everynight (even double loving one night) <3

great job town!

Can't believe I didn't link that snake and cross clue to Snet, I even said it was probably someone with an S and lower case t in their name but somehow I couldn't find someone that matched that...

I figured trying something for once. I thought that if I blocked a mafia hit on you, it would give the mafia the impression that you were blue. I was hoping they would try to hit you again the next night and laugh at their failures. That's why I did what I did. As for protecting you the first time, I decided to let my actions speak for my innocence. Of course, you would never know for sure who or what I was until the game ended, which I hoped cleared me of any doubts of my actions.

Well I was hoping whoever protected me would claim it to me before I said anything about it and if only one persyn did then they were probably for sure the medic but then no one claimed, mafia or otherwise. Good plan though lol.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
April 03 2009 07:02 GMT
#1649
On April 03 2009 15:49 mikeymoo wrote:
I actually thought Pyrr was mafia after he started accusing BC incredibly harshly. But then I was dead so I had nothing to say lol

Haha no, he was making shit up like "glaring is obviously something a bird would do" so I just did the same thing back at him to show him how absurd it was - I didn't really mean it, you'll noticed we both voted for Leperkhan after that and Leperkhan was who that first pocket clue was ultimately about.
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
April 03 2009 07:25 GMT
#1650
On April 03 2009 14:12 ydg wrote:
You guys never suspected me though

If you look through the posts I suspected you... though you weren't high on my list.
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MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
April 03 2009 09:06 GMT
#1651
About my Godfather role
vigi - makes no sense
DT - too dangerous, but in retrospect I probably should have done it anyways
Medic - hard to find out which medic is the impostor for town and might give insight into towns medic plans
Townie - Rolecheck rather unlikely, so ability probably goes to waste. Safest choice

When I roleclaimed I knew it would probably kill be soon, as the game was in a different state than anticipated when assuming the role. Of course I could have claimed townie, but then a rolecheck would reveal me again. And to be honest I saw the game as over at that time.

About Night 1:
Out kill-list was Ver*3,Camlito,scaramanga,Qatol
The ver*3 was because mandalor considered ver extremely dangerous and wanted to eliminate him at all costs, and we figured he might have got up to two medic protections. That he was vigi is a nice bonus
Camlito was on the list because imo he is a quite good player. I guessed he would have no medic protection since he was inactive this game. I consider this a good hit because he said after we sent our hitlist in that he will be more active now.
Qatol seemed to be another good player. I expected him to get a bit of medic protection, but luckily he did not get protection. An earlier version of this list contained qatol*2 instead of ver*3. So I'm very happy that he is dead now.
mikeymoo was originally on the list because he is a good player who stays in the background this game. This might indicate that he is a blue. We'll put him on the hitlist night two.
And now to the person who surprised town the most: scaramanga
This was a last second change where he took mikeymoo's place on the list. This is because while the town publicly said that they suspect him, I feared a trap since imo the timeline of the BG incident as I understand it strongly indicates that he is innocent and I thus feared he might be used as a trusted town center once the night is over. I simply did not want to risk that.
The timeline as I understand it:
* Chuiu sends some greens a msg saying they are BG
* scaramanga sends a message to BC stating he is BG.
* The day one lynch happens
* Chuiu admits he send the BG messages too early
If he were mafia pretending to be a BG(which makes no sense anyways) he would have sent the message after the day one lynch.

"The Zodiac Brave"
Dead
Ver - mandalor wanted to kill him at all costs
Camlito - Good player, but unlikely to have medic protection
Qatol - Good player, was a bit surprised he did't have medic protection
Scaramanga - Possibly confirmed green

Immortal
BloodyC0bbler (Role)
Ace (Temporatily arrested)

To Kill
Caller
Bockit
iNfuNdiBuLuM
MrBabyHands
Versatile
JL13

Other possibly important players
redtooth
Pyrrhuloxia
fusionsdf
NemY
0cz3c
semioldguy(immortal)

Night 2
My goal was to kill suspected blues here.
mikeymoo - Was rather inactive in the thread, but "but I only kept it between MikeyMoo and myself. " which might indicate activity out of thread, also I remember him as a good player
iNfuNdiBuLuM - forgot why
Versatile - forgot why
JL13 - Supposed veteran, but probably no medic protection
Pika Chu - Possibly a stupid blue

Night 3 and 4 were without much consideration. Thinking a bit more I probably should have picked other targets. But in both cases morning was overdue when I got to choose the kills, and none of my fellow mafias had made a kill-list.
Night 3
redtooth,malongo,Pyrrhuloxia,dreamflower
Night 4
CompX,NemY,BWdero
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 03 2009 09:17 GMT
#1652
To be honest I usually stay out of the limelight, blue or not (interesting fact: have never been non-blue). BC forced my hand in Caller's game, and I was active there only to avoid town's wrath.

It's almost an honour to be killed early though
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MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-03 10:25:01
April 03 2009 09:17 GMT
#1653
Inactivity, including my own was a mayor problem for us. Then some of us had empty profiles, which I considered problematic because it forces name based clues.
I also knew that I should be more active and contribute more, but was too lazy -_- So me playing bad behaviour wise was less part of my role, but more my lazyness/lack of time which prevented me from playing as I intended.

@JeeJee why did you know the mafia? Did one of us make some big mistake?

Edit: Found some plans from day 1:
What town might do
The possible plan of the town to establish a trusted leadership seems to be wait until a medic safes a person, who then are either both good, or both evil. Then rolecheck the two. This cannot be spoofed by mafia, as we only have one godfather. One thing that could go wrong in that plan is that the protected person is a miller, which would kill him, but still prove the innocence of the medic.
The main problem with that plan is that somebody needs to coordinate the DTs and medics before the trusted leadership has been established.

About my godfather role
I could assume the following roles:
Towny
Detective
Paramedic
Vigilante

Vigilante makes no sense since mafia may not lynch another mafia and assuming the role of vigi does not gain us anything.
When assuming townie it is quite probable to never be rolechecked at all, so my ability would likely be wasted, and I'd be almost a normal mafia with a small advantage.
Assuming medic might create some confusion, and I'd be resonably safe as I see no way to be checked. It is a small advantage for mafia, because we know one person who will be protected.
And the risky roleclaim of detective. While I cannot be unmasked by a rolecheck on myself, they can use my own "rolecheck" to unmask me. It might create some chaos and cost the town leadership some rounds+rolechecks. But I think i'd be finished off rather quickly as guessing a role correctly is only a 1/3 or 1/4 chance.
Or if I claimed the checked person was mafia that'd probably lead to another wasted rolecheck on that person, and my death afterwards.

I think medic might be the best choice, but DT might be worthy if we find a plan how to use it to our advantage.

Running for major
In theory I could run for major/sherrif, but I don't think i'd be elected and it would put me under suspicion.

The reason we did not send out a candidate for mayor/sheriff was that we simply did not have somebody with good chances of being elected. I think mandalor and me are the only ones who could have a remote chance for that, and I believe neither of us could have made it.
LiquipediaOne eye to kill. Two eyes to live.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
April 03 2009 11:42 GMT
#1654
good game.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 03 2009 11:59 GMT
#1655
So, when is the next one starting? I'd definitely like to join ^_^
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-03 13:00:17
April 03 2009 12:59 GMT
#1656
On April 03 2009 18:06 MasterOfChaos wrote:

When I roleclaimed I knew it would probably kill be soon, as the game was in a different state than anticipated when assuming the role. Of course I could have claimed townie, but then a rolecheck would reveal me again. And to be honest I saw the game as over at that time.


There were two main things I did this game (which a monkey could have done). One was trusting MBH when he initially PM'd me saying "I think you're a vigi, come help me kill Tricode."

Second was proposing my role claim to the town to gather roles; Mainly to get a list of Medics as SoG had none in contact with, and maybe bodyguards (all other blue roles were already in the circle at that time), as well as to see if there are any conflict with the claims. The bodyguards quickly PM'd me, and Medics too. Everything seemed to look good... Until you, MoC role claimed Medic. I quickly PM'd MBH, SoG, and BC, and all of us were instantly suspecting MoC -_-.

It all kinda boiled down from there.
靈魂交響曲
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-03 13:04:17
April 03 2009 13:03 GMT
#1657
On April 03 2009 15:22 Malongo wrote:
I still dont understand how the clues work, are they always one single word? The only clues i understand so far are the MoC ones.


The first thing I did after I saw Tricode's death, I PM'd Chuiu and asked him how were the clues linked to me, as I was somewhat confused, but he wouldn't tell me

Then I talked to BC and he told me he "got it all figured out", as fish are sometimes poisonous.
I was like, "uh... ok..."
靈魂交響曲
ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
April 03 2009 13:49 GMT
#1658
When the game started, I was on spring break, but when I came back, I couldn't really help the discussion much because somehow every single suspect was mafia and I didn't think that it would look good if I started defending them.
Also I feel that the clue checking to a name is like a free rolecheck, except sometimes it's harder to associate the clues with the names.
The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next.
BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
April 03 2009 14:06 GMT
#1659
GG, so did you kill me for any specific reason or was I just unlucky?
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
April 03 2009 15:08 GMT
#1660
On April 03 2009 22:03 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2009 15:22 Malongo wrote:
I still dont understand how the clues work, are they always one single word? The only clues i understand so far are the MoC ones.


The first thing I did after I saw Tricode's death, I PM'd Chuiu and asked him how were the clues linked to me, as I was somewhat confused, but he wouldn't tell me

Then I talked to BC and he told me he "got it all figured out", as fish are sometimes poisonous.
I was like, "uh... ok..."




The black fluid exited the syringe and filled his body, he was immediately immobilized and before he could even see who injected him Tricode died.


Fishball = puffer fish
Puffer fish are poisonous, and their venom causes paralysis. Chuiu also thought he saw somewhere the poison was black.
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