EPTNo such rule.
@Bockit: Cool thanks, I guess I'll leave it up there for now, since I don't want to edit too much.
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
No such rule. @Bockit: Cool thanks, I guess I'll leave it up there for now, since I don't want to edit too much. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On March 22 2009 15:18 Fishball wrote: No such rule. @Bockit: Cool thanks, I guess I'll leave it up there for now, since I don't want to edit too much. Well I guess if you want to add to the pages Chuiu has to look through. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
Double Lynch - Usable three times per game, the next day the town lynches two people instead of one. This means everyone gets two votes to distribute between two different people. The double lynch is elected by everyone. The vote must exceed half the number of players voting that day. IE: If there are 40 players voting then the town needs 21 votes to use a double lynch. Double lynches may be used everyday. Specifically the phrase, " the next day", it really depends how you interpret it. eg. you and Bockit. Anyways, I'll just let my votes sit there for now. | ||
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
his picture is utterly incriminating | ||
semioldguy
United States7488 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On March 22 2009 13:33 Ace wrote: Btw I'm not saying BC was wrong for the move, I just wanted to hear an explanation since it seemed to come out of no where. Myself and well as hes dead doesnt matter, Qatol figured that most medics would be retarded and not cover who they were supposed to. Since there were 12 names on your zodiac(myself being one) that left 11 to be protected, 4 via meds then i could incarcerate one and prot them for a night. I sent in a list of 7 names, order of importance, and the first two on my list are now dead, so ace was next up after that. On March 22 2009 10:33 0cz3c wrote: BloodyCobbler, I read your analysis on Kennigit and it seems fairly solid. Indeed, I have not seen him posting much at all. I'll revisit the previous post in search of anything that would relate to him. "Scara’s death gives us a lot of information however, that the current team of mafia players, for the most part, are retarded. Scara was one of the towns top lynch suspects before he was killed, hell Ver was campaigning his death, and they killed him, showing that a) the mafia aren’t reading the thread carefully or 2) they aren’t seasoned players and made a rookie mistake." You may be missing the obvious here. They may have sent in their hits to Chuiu, and he took a long time to make the night post. I don't know. Whether or not that is true, I thinks it's far to presumptuous, and extremely detrimental for us, to simply wave the mafia off as retarded. If we assume that my first statement is not true, then mafia would be under the knowledge that Scar was not one of them, and the town's eye, led by Ver, was on him. Why would mafia kill him? To tell us Ver is wrong about one, so he's wrong about the other? That's certainly the emotion that was instilled into me before I saw SoG posting that he had checked Mandalor and had found him to be red. Maybe they thought he was BG? Ver explained that there was confusion about that (or, at least he said so in his post). What about the fact that he's on Ace's list? They've been minimizing Ace's list. Why? If there are mafia on that list, then it seems almost suicide to them. Guess they realize that those players, nevertheless, must be gotten rid of. I don't know. Put it to you this way, chuiu did take awhile to put it up, but that gave them time to change their hits if need be. Scara was being witch hunted by Ver, so chances are he woulda died by town hands instead. Also note that we said that scara roleclaimed BG to me, and chuiu said he swapped all the bg's because of a rule mishap. IE they knew he wasn't one anymore. I'm not saying they are retarded, but chances are they aren't being as careful as they should be. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
I vote for double lynch | ||
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blue_arrow
1971 Posts
##i vote for the double lynch | ||
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JL13
United States1384 Posts
First off: BC incarcerating Ace means that BC and Ace are mostly likely not mafia together. Why would he incarcerate a fellow mafia when Vigilante's can't act night 1? Mafia have no fear of being killed during Night 1. This leaves these possibilities: BC is town, thinks Ace will be hit, thus protects Ace for the night. BC is mafia, thinks Ace is a power role, thus denying Ace's powers for the night. BC claims he was just following the Zodiac Brave list, but there's a chance BC has other motives. Night 1 killings = bad. First off, you have BG+Vigi dying. Since vigi's can't act night 1, Ver's hit was not used. I'd like to think our sheriff/mayor played no part in Qatol's death T_T. Other business. Some more suspect posting behavior. ahswtini. Page18 is a random vote for BC with not much justification. Page40 is talking about waiting for morning to come and re-reading everything, just a bunch of randomness. Phrujbaz. Page 39 is him bringing up the vigi discussion all over again, mentioning also that he "doesn't want to beat a dead horse." Why post such a huge reply then? Then while the entire town is voting for either Rice/Mandalor/etc, he puts up a vote for Lucktar? I'm a little confused. ##I vote to lynch mandalor ##I vote for a double lynch Here's my reasoning: Mandalor flips Miller. SoG is prob DT or at least in contact with a DT. Mandalor flips Mafia. SoG is not as likely if Mandalor flipped Miller instead. Because this can be a ploy for SoG to gain more trust. But then again, mafia loses 1 KP, so it's a good enough benefit to the town regardless what color Mandalor flips. Mandalor flips blue. Well, I won't even consider this case. But that would most likely mean SoG is mafia or he got totally played by a mafia faking DT. Malongo has a pretty nice post, Page45 full of bolded potential clues and such. Pyrr has an insightful clue to infundibulum Page50. There is plenty of clue analysis so SoG/claimed DT/hidden DT should split up clue checks/role checks. Well, not SoG since he can only clue check day 1. I would suggest SoG to checking "Whatever that could be found, was lost." I feel that was the biggest clue that sprang up. For everyone in general, Day 1 Clue analysis was recapped by Bockit Page37. Thoughts? I will post my own clue analysis at some point, too. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On March 22 2009 17:55 JL13 wrote: Okay, finally got down to reading everything (page 40 until now, page 51) First off: BC incarcerating Ace means that BC and Ace are mostly likely not mafia together. Why would he incarcerate a fellow mafia when Vigilante's can't act night 1? Mafia have no fear of being killed during Night 1. This leaves these possibilities: BC is town, thinks Ace will be hit, thus protects Ace for the night. BC is mafia, thinks Ace is a power role, thus denying Ace's powers for the night. BC claims he was just following the Zodiac Brave list, but there's a chance BC has other motives. Night 1 killings = bad. First off, you have BG+Vigi dying. Since vigi's can't act night 1, Ver's hit was not used. I'd like to think our sheriff/mayor played no part in Qatol's death T_T. Other business. Some more suspect posting behavior. ahswtini. Page18 is a random vote for BC with not much justification. Page40 is talking about waiting for morning to come and re-reading everything, just a bunch of randomness. Phrujbaz. Page 39 is him bringing up the vigi discussion all over again, mentioning also that he "doesn't want to beat a dead horse." Why post such a huge reply then? Then while the entire town is voting for either Rice/Mandalor/etc, he puts up a vote for Lucktar? I'm a little confused. ##I vote to lynch mandalor ##I vote for a double lynch Here's my reasoning: Mandalor flips Miller. SoG is prob DT or at least in contact with a DT. Mandalor flips Mafia. SoG is not as likely if Mandalor flipped Miller instead. Because this can be a ploy for SoG to gain more trust. But then again, mafia loses 1 KP, so it's a good enough benefit to the town regardless what color Mandalor flips. Mandalor flips blue. Well, I won't even consider this case. But that would most likely mean SoG is mafia or he got totally played by a mafia faking DT. Malongo has a pretty nice post, Page45 full of bolded potential clues and such. Pyrr has an insightful clue to infundibulum Page50. There is plenty of clue analysis so SoG/claimed DT/hidden DT should split up clue checks/role checks. Well, not SoG since he can only clue check day 1. I would suggest SoG to checking "Whatever that could be found, was lost." I feel that was the biggest clue that sprang up. For everyone in general, Day 1 Clue analysis was recapped by Bockit Page37. Thoughts? I will post my own clue analysis at some point, too. yeah ahswtini and phrujbaz are weird as hell i dunno what they are doing i dont think they do either you have to call incarcerations a day in advance - so no one was incarcerated day 1 and today and tonight Ace is is my understanding so ace / bc could be fearing vigi hits | ||
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JL13
United States1384 Posts
BC is mafia, protects a fellow mafia BC is town, protects a fellow town BC is town, just following Ace's Zodiac Brave plan. So yeah... with my new understanding Qatol's death is more troubling... | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On March 22 2009 16:52 semioldguy wrote: The double lynch is NOT auto-passed at this point. People should still vote for it if they want it to pass since with each additional voter it increases the difficulty to pass the double lynch by another one-half of a vote. meaning if 14 people spam voted right now without also voting to double lynch, we would get no double lynch tomorrow since the 21 votes we have now would no longer be equat to half of the voters. I'm just going with what Chuiu has on page 50. He specifically wrote "29 (16 needed)", so your argument is null. | ||
motbob
United States12546 Posts
##I vote for a double lynch | ||
Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
On March 22 2009 18:29 Fishball wrote: I'm just going with what Chuiu has on page 50. He specifically wrote "29 (16 needed)", so your argument is null. "The vote must exceed half the number of players voting that day." Plus the number he gave (29, 16) match the requirements sog is describing. | ||
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Phrujbaz
Netherlands512 Posts
On March 22 2009 07:52 Versatile wrote: were you going to address what rice said about your profile pic? in case you missed it, it was on pg. 44. I did notice that he said "dried up white flower" was the biggest clue, and that he was going to look into it, and that he posted my profile pic four minutes later. I did not intended to address this, because Rice didn't say anything I can address. Do I think my profile picture represents a "dried up white flower"? With a stretch. I have never seen anyone refer to a dandelion as a "white flower". The flower head is green/yellow, the leaves, when it blooms, are yellow/orange. The white you see are its seeds. However, it has colored slightly brown and seems to be disconnected from the ground, so one might reasonably assume it is dried up. I guess I'm suspicious. What can I say about it? One thing that does strike me as odd is that Rice thinks this is the biggest clue in a day post full of significant clues. I don't see why he should think so. The only explanation I can think of is that Rice had noticed my profile picture before posting, and having something to connect a clue to naturally makes it more significant. If that is the case, however, it's strange that he waited four minutes before posting my profile picture. Maybe I'm overly suspicious, but it's suspicious to me. Possibly he wanted to make his find seem more significant than it really is (it would have seemed less big of a find had he posted them both at the same time). Whether it's deliberately sending town on a red herring or good clue analysis with bad luck, in both cases it's a pretty good find and Rice has my sincere appreciation for that. | ||
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
## I vote for double lynch | ||
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Rice
United States1332 Posts
On March 22 2009 10:33 0cz3c wrote: Then there's Rice to consider. I felt redtooth did a good job with bringing him forth. Before that, Rice had rarely, if ever posted. And then, in a flurry of activity, when accused, he begins to post. And he doesn't defend himself. Rather, he makes pointless one-liners. He shakes off any accusations he has with a laugh. Then he does the typical, "please rolecheck me so we dont waste a hit that couldve been for someone that is actually mafia... this is getting ridiculous how much crap im getting for having a picture of guys with knives in my profile in a MAFIA game." A rolecheck to me seems far too essential to waste, especially with him being in the running for being mafia. His behavior seems incredibly suspicious to me. For this day, however, I vote for Mandalor to be lynched. I trust SoG entirely, and, with good fortune, he will turn up red rather than black (miller). I had stated earlier in this thread that I was too busy to keep up with the thread to post until after the voting, If i was mafia there would be absolutely nothing to gain by not jumping on a voting bandwagon except for sticking out like a sore thumb and thus being under suspicion of the town | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On March 22 2009 15:03 Caller wrote: Your posts so far are a mismatch of anti-vigi plan posts and uninformativeposts about last night-a lot of aomething that says nothing, and you haven't really done the clue analysis that you did last games. Like I said: i've been as active as i can so far. School + job and other commitments take up a lot of time. I have 2 very difficult exams coming up and have to spend the next few days preparing. Perhaps after that i'll have more time to debate in here, and i apologize that i have not been able to contribute as much as i used to. And btw, only a couple of my posts this game have been uninformative. Please do not generalize. In any case i have a couple hours free time now so let's make a post. I suppose i should probably make a comment about the artery thing Pyrr posted. I do not think this is a clue that links to me. Let's see why: Ver's major arteries were stabbed into and they left him there to bleed out and die. First off we see that we are talking in plurals here; there is more than one artery. Where are the major arteries in the body? Thigh/leg (femoral) , neck (jugular), wrist/arm (carpal?), and heart (aorta).Ver got stabbed in these places. So pyrr is referring to the infundibulum in the heart. Problem is this guy was stabbed in many places, not to mention the heart is behind the rib cage and so rather more difficult to stab. Additionally: there is more than one infundibulum in the body, and only one is located near an artery. If Chuiu was to wikipedia my name to make a clue, it is safe to assume he would have noticed this. And who is the first person to say "nice find?" Ashwtini, someone who has already been singled out for behaving strangely. Caller, who is already suspicious of me for other reasons - suspicions which may be somewhat justified, although misplaced. --- If we are assuming the sentence is a clue, the thing to note about it is that the killer is very knowledgeable and skilled to be able to target the major arteries with lethal precision. What's more important about Ver's killers though is that one is covered in tattoos and symbols, and the other appeared pathetic at fighting and was actually skilled. Both of those characteristics are unique descriptors that we can expect to see again (though in a different form) in the coming day posts. I admit i'm having a difficult time getting a solid link from these clues to anyone. A connection to the tattoos could be mikeymoo's profile, which is just a list of random stuff, similar to the tattoos. But i don't think his behavior matches. Someone who appears pathetic at fighting could be a semi-old-guy, or a LeperKahn (would you expect a leprechaun to appear skilled at fighting)? Those are both weak though. Here i think is the ideal course of action: 1. Mandalor is hung (he always dies early. cursed? probably.) 2. He is mafia or miller. We learn a bit about SoG. 3. Nightfall. Rice may be vigi'd - i wouldn't be surprised to see it. Lowering KP to 5. 4. People die. Hopefully not very many. Clues are had. After Rice who is good as dead, my current favorite suspicion based on clues is Humbug. Also, people please keep in mind Versatile's mafia character list when clue analyzing: On March 22 2009 06:26 Versatile wrote: 3. As for the mafia personalities, I've come up with: a. Powerful, dressed in all black, armed man this may be Rice. b. Weak, pathetic fight man c. Tattooed biker man d. Person-in-charge w/ bum characteristics The collector. Humbug possibly?. e. Person possible multiple arms from Day 1 (or is a Pikachu lol) f. Explosions man who sets traps and taunts. My additions in bold. edit: grammar | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
Someone who appears pathetic at fighting could be a semi-old-guy, or a LeperKahn (would you expect a leprechaun to appear skilled at fighting)? Those are both weak though. MrBabyHands would also fit with this clue | ||
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