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semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
March 20 2009 03:29 GMT
#721
A puiblic Vigi can NEVER have his kill refunded. How many times do I have to post that for people to stop bringing up the possibility of something impossible happening?
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
March 20 2009 03:32 GMT
#722
just drop the vigi topic. we were almost over it before someone brought it back up. i don't know if we should really encourage Day 1 clue analysis though. i'm beginning to question Ace's advice about ignoring the 12 "vets". random potshots are proving to be more effective...
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
March 20 2009 03:32 GMT
#723
dreamflower, i like the idea of betrayal regarding the man that helped Chuiu up and then stabbed him. Why would Chuiu, the sheriff and hardened crime fighter, accept the help up from a criminal? It could be someone he recognized or knew that betrayed him by siding with the mafia. So we should keep an eye in the day posts for someone that kills in a deceitful way, by tricking his victims into thinking he is going to help them.

I suggested a possible clue link from the 4th mafia that stayed behind, waiting for Incognito, to the name "Lurker." It sort of fits, but I want to bring it up again so others can see it.

Also: what kind of person could run with their hands behind their head and also grab a gun and throw it to the side? Perhaps someone who is very "Versatile." It's possible but i don't think Chuiu usually writes clues like that. I'd imagine that mafioso to be hinting towards some kind of animal, like a monkey, or someone with multiple appendages.
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
March 20 2009 03:38 GMT
#724
^ nice dog holding things in mouth in your profile.
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
March 20 2009 03:39 GMT
#725
Yeah I see dogs put their hands behind their heads all the time don't you
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Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-20 03:58:16
March 20 2009 03:39 GMT
#726
On March 20 2009 12:07 JL13 wrote:
This is a good compilation of what's been discussed so far. Also, remember one of the mafia, that killed Incognito, stayed behind to make sure he was dead. That brings the total to four mafia.

1) Guy charging
2) Guy helping
3) Guy driving
4) Guy making sure Incognito was dead.

Also, there's a sentence when Chuiu describes the three men running away to the car: "He noticed they weren't leaving right away, what could they be waiting for?"


My feeling is that the "they weren't leaving right away, what could they be waiting for?" isn't a clue, it seems to me just a way to say they were waiting for Chuiu to arrive. I could be wrong but I think the other clues are stronger if the dts are all going to be clue checking.

On March 20 2009 11:44 Qatol wrote:

Since nobody else is takling about this, I will get things started:
The guy offering to help Chuiu up
The guy charging at Chuiu while having his hands behind his head
The third guy not getting out of the car
The shockwave from the builiding explosion (I highly doubt this is a clue, but it was discussed)
The item Incognito finding staying lost


I think what was more important about that last clue you mention in the list, isn't the item that's lost but that once Incognito caught sight of his soon-to-be-killer he knew it was lost forever.

"He turned himself around to face the man and knew that whatever could be found was lost"

Then again, it's possible that this is simply a case of him knowing he is going to die and that he won't be able to find it.



Combining the efforts of Dreamflower, Qatol and JL13 on this recent page we get something like this:

Strong chance of being clues

Guy offering to help Chuiu up
He reached out his hand as if to help Chuiu up, Chuiu grabbed his hand with a puzzled look on his face and began to get up. But then the mafia pulled him close and stabbed him in the chest. (I'd almost think Dronebabo was playing with this one sounded similar to his signature)

The guy charging at Chuiu while having his hands behind his head
But while he did so the mafia lowering himself sprinted toward Chuiu and with his hands still behind his head grabbed the gun and threw it to the side

The incognito lost item not going to be found
He turned himself around to face the man and knew that whatever could be found was lost

Possibly clue

Waiting around the car
He finally caught up with them a few moments later as they were getting in a car. He noticed they weren't leaving right away, what could they be waiting for?

Things nobody is really willing to support as clues yet

The shockwave from the builiding explosion
He got to the door just before the explosion and was caught in the shockwave.

Building crumbled in on itself
Except for the explosion in City Hall. The sheriff, Chuiu, ran out of his office across the street to see the building crumbling in on itself.



So if any of the 3 dts are still unsure what to do and are looking for clues to check up on, or people to match clues to, take a look at the Strong clues just listed.
Their are four errors in this sentance.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 20 2009 03:43 GMT
#727
On March 20 2009 12:32 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
dreamflower, i like the idea of betrayal regarding the man that helped Chuiu up and then stabbed him. Why would Chuiu, the sheriff and hardened crime fighter, accept the help up from a criminal? It could be someone he recognized or knew that betrayed him by siding with the mafia. So we should keep an eye in the day posts for someone that kills in a deceitful way, by tricking his victims into thinking he is going to help them.

I suggested a possible clue link from the 4th mafia that stayed behind, waiting for Incognito, to the name "Lurker." It sort of fits, but I want to bring it up again so others can see it.

Also: what kind of person could run with their hands behind their head and also grab a gun and throw it to the side? Perhaps someone who is very "Versatile." It's possible but i don't think Chuiu usually writes clues like that. I'd imagine that mafioso to be hinting towards some kind of animal, like a monkey, or someone with multiple appendages.


If it helps Versatile is also synonymous with being ambidextrous. However for both their hands to be behind their head, and then grab something suggests another pair of hands doesn't it?
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
March 20 2009 03:44 GMT
#728
On March 20 2009 12:39 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Yeah I see pikachus and lions put their hands behind their heads all the time don't you

edited to show how dumb day 1 clue analysis is. its good work you guys are doing but i don't know if it will produce any results. i'm going to sleep now.
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
March 20 2009 03:48 GMT
#729
On March 20 2009 12:43 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2009 12:32 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
dreamflower, i like the idea of betrayal regarding the man that helped Chuiu up and then stabbed him. Why would Chuiu, the sheriff and hardened crime fighter, accept the help up from a criminal? It could be someone he recognized or knew that betrayed him by siding with the mafia. So we should keep an eye in the day posts for someone that kills in a deceitful way, by tricking his victims into thinking he is going to help them.

I suggested a possible clue link from the 4th mafia that stayed behind, waiting for Incognito, to the name "Lurker." It sort of fits, but I want to bring it up again so others can see it.

Also: what kind of person could run with their hands behind their head and also grab a gun and throw it to the side? Perhaps someone who is very "Versatile." It's possible but i don't think Chuiu usually writes clues like that. I'd imagine that mafioso to be hinting towards some kind of animal, like a monkey, or someone with multiple appendages.


If it helps Versatile is also synonymous with being ambidextrous. However for both their hands to be behind their head, and then grab something suggests another pair of hands doesn't it?


Yeah I agree that the clue definitely suggests some extra body part or force being used. Versatile's name just jumped out to me on the list when I was thinking about that particular mafioso.

On March 20 2009 12:44 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2009 12:39 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Yeah I see pikachus and lions put their hands behind their heads all the time don't you

edited to show how dumb day 1 clue analysis is. its good work you guys are doing but i don't know if it will produce any results. i'm going to sleep now.


hahah excellent point. Don't worry, eventually someone will say the gladiator link in my profile is a clue because a mafioso killed someone with a knife (oh if only MidnightGladius was playing)
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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-20 03:56:41
March 20 2009 03:55 GMT
#730
On March 20 2009 12:29 semioldguy wrote:
A puiblic Vigi can NEVER have his kill refunded. How many times do I have to post that for people to stop bringing up the possibility of something impossible happening?

he can also never have his kill refunded because the mafia will always hit a blue or green that the vigi isn't targetting.

edit blue or green instead of blue
JL13
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1384 Posts
March 20 2009 03:55 GMT
#731
Actually, I think the "whatever could be found, was lost" is the strongest clue. My brief explanation is explained on Page 28. I think it fits Chuiu's writing style, especially from last game pretty closely. Also, Incognito is helping out with clues as well, so the story is a mesh of their combined efforts.

That quote stood out to me the most and seemed the most awkward sentence throughout the story.
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Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
March 20 2009 03:56 GMT
#732
On March 20 2009 12:48 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2009 12:43 Ace wrote:
On March 20 2009 12:32 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
dreamflower, i like the idea of betrayal regarding the man that helped Chuiu up and then stabbed him. Why would Chuiu, the sheriff and hardened crime fighter, accept the help up from a criminal? It could be someone he recognized or knew that betrayed him by siding with the mafia. So we should keep an eye in the day posts for someone that kills in a deceitful way, by tricking his victims into thinking he is going to help them.

I suggested a possible clue link from the 4th mafia that stayed behind, waiting for Incognito, to the name "Lurker." It sort of fits, but I want to bring it up again so others can see it.

Also: what kind of person could run with their hands behind their head and also grab a gun and throw it to the side? Perhaps someone who is very "Versatile." It's possible but i don't think Chuiu usually writes clues like that. I'd imagine that mafioso to be hinting towards some kind of animal, like a monkey, or someone with multiple appendages.


If it helps Versatile is also synonymous with being ambidextrous. However for both their hands to be behind their head, and then grab something suggests another pair of hands doesn't it?


Yeah I agree that the clue definitely suggests some extra body part or force being used. Versatile's name just jumped out to me on the list when I was thinking about that particular mafioso.

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2009 12:44 redtooth wrote:
On March 20 2009 12:39 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Yeah I see pikachus and lions put their hands behind their heads all the time don't you

edited to show how dumb day 1 clue analysis is. its good work you guys are doing but i don't know if it will produce any results. i'm going to sleep now.


hahah excellent point. Don't worry, eventually someone will say the gladiator link in my profile is a clue because a mafioso killed someone with a knife (oh if only MidnightGladius was playing)


Was it a sharp knife? Might be blue_arrow imo.
Their are four errors in this sentance.
Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
March 20 2009 03:57 GMT
#733
On March 20 2009 12:55 JL13 wrote:
Actually, I think the "whatever could be found, was lost" is the strongest clue. My brief explanation is explained on Page 28. I think it fits Chuiu's writing style, especially from last game pretty closely. Also, Incognito is helping out with clues as well, so the story is a mesh of their combined efforts.

That quote stood out to me the most and seemed the most awkward sentence throughout the story.


You're right it did stand out pretty strongly from the rest of the text. I'll just edit it around now.
Their are four errors in this sentance.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
March 20 2009 03:57 GMT
#734
On March 20 2009 12:48 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
hahah excellent point. Don't worry, eventually someone will say the gladiator link in my profile is a clue because a mafioso killed someone with a knife (oh if only MidnightGladius was playing)

well i clicked that link and would just like to say that i want my 2 coins back.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 20 2009 04:02 GMT
#735
On March 20 2009 12:48 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2009 12:43 Ace wrote:
On March 20 2009 12:32 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
dreamflower, i like the idea of betrayal regarding the man that helped Chuiu up and then stabbed him. Why would Chuiu, the sheriff and hardened crime fighter, accept the help up from a criminal? It could be someone he recognized or knew that betrayed him by siding with the mafia. So we should keep an eye in the day posts for someone that kills in a deceitful way, by tricking his victims into thinking he is going to help them.

I suggested a possible clue link from the 4th mafia that stayed behind, waiting for Incognito, to the name "Lurker." It sort of fits, but I want to bring it up again so others can see it.

Also: what kind of person could run with their hands behind their head and also grab a gun and throw it to the side? Perhaps someone who is very "Versatile." It's possible but i don't think Chuiu usually writes clues like that. I'd imagine that mafioso to be hinting towards some kind of animal, like a monkey, or someone with multiple appendages.


If it helps Versatile is also synonymous with being ambidextrous. However for both their hands to be behind their head, and then grab something suggests another pair of hands doesn't it?


Yeah I agree that the clue definitely suggests some extra body part or force being used. Versatile's name just jumped out to me on the list when I was thinking about that particular mafioso.

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2009 12:44 redtooth wrote:
On March 20 2009 12:39 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Yeah I see pikachus and lions put their hands behind their heads all the time don't you

edited to show how dumb day 1 clue analysis is. its good work you guys are doing but i don't know if it will produce any results. i'm going to sleep now.


hahah excellent point. Don't worry, eventually someone will say the gladiator link in my profile is a clue because a mafioso killed someone with a knife (oh if only MidnightGladius was playing)

Didn't someone say that there was a scene from the movie Gladiator where someone helps another guy up and then stabs them?
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
March 20 2009 04:05 GMT
#736
On March 20 2009 13:02 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2009 12:48 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On March 20 2009 12:43 Ace wrote:
On March 20 2009 12:32 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
dreamflower, i like the idea of betrayal regarding the man that helped Chuiu up and then stabbed him. Why would Chuiu, the sheriff and hardened crime fighter, accept the help up from a criminal? It could be someone he recognized or knew that betrayed him by siding with the mafia. So we should keep an eye in the day posts for someone that kills in a deceitful way, by tricking his victims into thinking he is going to help them.

I suggested a possible clue link from the 4th mafia that stayed behind, waiting for Incognito, to the name "Lurker." It sort of fits, but I want to bring it up again so others can see it.

Also: what kind of person could run with their hands behind their head and also grab a gun and throw it to the side? Perhaps someone who is very "Versatile." It's possible but i don't think Chuiu usually writes clues like that. I'd imagine that mafioso to be hinting towards some kind of animal, like a monkey, or someone with multiple appendages.


If it helps Versatile is also synonymous with being ambidextrous. However for both their hands to be behind their head, and then grab something suggests another pair of hands doesn't it?


Yeah I agree that the clue definitely suggests some extra body part or force being used. Versatile's name just jumped out to me on the list when I was thinking about that particular mafioso.

On March 20 2009 12:44 redtooth wrote:
On March 20 2009 12:39 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Yeah I see pikachus and lions put their hands behind their heads all the time don't you

edited to show how dumb day 1 clue analysis is. its good work you guys are doing but i don't know if it will produce any results. i'm going to sleep now.


hahah excellent point. Don't worry, eventually someone will say the gladiator link in my profile is a clue because a mafioso killed someone with a knife (oh if only MidnightGladius was playing)

Didn't someone say that there was a scene from the movie Gladiator where someone helps another guy up and then stabs them?



Yeah that was brought up but I forget by who. I'm not worried about it though.

On March 20 2009 12:57 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2009 12:48 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
hahah excellent point. Don't worry, eventually someone will say the gladiator link in my profile is a clue because a mafioso killed someone with a knife (oh if only MidnightGladius was playing)

well i clicked that link and would just like to say that i want my 2 coins back.


For that, my friend, you must defeat me in the arena!

(i dont even know what that smilie means)
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
March 20 2009 04:06 GMT
#737
double post: it was Caller in his clue analysis post.
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semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
March 20 2009 04:09 GMT
#738
On March 20 2009 12:55 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2009 12:29 semioldguy wrote:
A puiblic Vigi can NEVER have his kill refunded. How many times do I have to post that for people to stop bringing up the possibility of something impossible happening?

he can also never have his kill refunded because the mafia will always hit a blue or green that the vigi isn't targetting.

edit blue or green instead of blue

But even if Mafia did target the same person, the Vigi wouldn't get refunded because the Vigi's hit went in first (but, yeah... the Mafia is never going to do that anyway)

I'm just a little frustrated because several of the posters here seem to not know some of the rules for this game (because they aren't all the same as previous games). And if they take so much time reading the thread if they could spend just another two minutes on the rules a lot of this would be avoided.

Everyone should go read ALL of the rules. I don't care if you are green... go read all the descriptions and rules for the Special Roles, etc so that you at least know how they work well enough to argue something that doesn't contradict the rules.

It's a pet peeve of mine: People who disregard or don't follow the rules of a game (whether from ignorance or otherwise).
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Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
March 20 2009 04:16 GMT
#739
this game is fucking test heavy! anyone has some kind of summary?
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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 20 2009 04:21 GMT
#740
On March 20 2009 13:16 Night[Mare wrote:
this game is fucking test heavy! anyone has some kind of summary?

summaries are gonna be biased / misleading
if you are serious it is best to plow through it
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