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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 13 2008 07:39 GMT
#65
Sign me up Chuiu!!

i, with fusionsdf will aid liquidia against the evil mafia
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 18 2008 06:32 GMT
#340
woot pm received
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 18 2008 06:58 GMT
#360
I would like to turn your attention to one Fusionsdf

In out plethora of conversations via pm he was VERY accurate in his predications (as you all saw). I personally don't feel like am a suitable candidate for this position, but fusionsdf on the other hand is. He is motivated, inspired and he is on to it. He would be able to use our double lynches wisely and steer the town towards victory!!!

vote fusionsdf
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 18 2008 08:16 GMT
#411
never trust an australian with 10 posts
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-22 11:29:48
March 22 2008 11:29 GMT
#1906
+ Show Spoiler [eddie] +
Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner".

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help.

Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat.
Traits
- Seems to be the leader of the group
- Likes to kick (Tekken reference?)
- Seems to get lucky/panicky

Suspects

I'm going to suggest looking at LoStYouRSkiLLS for this role. Firstly his I.D. suggests that chuiu has lost his skills leading the town => needs replacing. Also his quote "skill is when luck becomes habit" seems to pertain to eddies characteristics. Somewhat weak evidence, but enough for me to become suspicious.

Next on my hitlist would be MasterofChaos because well, he is a master after all. And Chaos nicely refers to Eddies slightly erratic behavior. However he seems quite genuine in being a towny so i have no qualms with him.



+ Show Spoiler [sidewinder] +
Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black.

Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after.

Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust.
Traits
- Sickly appearance
- Periods of extreme skill and extreme unease (ie alternating in talent)
- Seems to be a minor character

Suspects

Firstly, Queasy jumps to mind as a suspect. His I.D. fits the description almost perfectly and he has only said very minor things in this thread. No quote + no profile + no comments = i.d. would be his only clue and there would be little else pertaining to him in the text. I think that we have ourselves a mafia.

+ Show Spoiler [The Wolf] +
The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head.
Traits
- Remorseful, respectful
- "Made his mark"
- Didn't kill anyone in night

Suspects
This is really clutching at straws but i suspect LucasWoJ
Lucas -> George Lucas and WoJ -> Warriors of Justice, something starwars affiliated
The justice side of things seem to coincide with Wolf's respectful side of things and that he is doing this for a just casue. While the made his mark clue leads on to the fact that he is WoJ. That in addition to his low activity between day 1-day2 leads me to beleive that he is Wolf.

+ Show Spoiler [Taipan Snake] +
He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time.

They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device
Traits
- Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons)
- (Australian connection, Taipan is a highly venomous snake)
- Electronics connection

Suspects

immediately all australians are under a cloud of doubt. I think SMB could pertain to the Taipan clue, as it is the most venomous snake in all of australia (21/25 on the poison scale apparantly). Could possibly be Camlito or Energies, but there's really nothing there... except for perhaps energies referring to a) electricity b) not needing any weapons. So yea, Energies is worth looking at.. (he did say that he didn't want to be labeled a lurker and be lynched - worried about how he is appearing while adding nothing? iono).

I'll do more later
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-22 11:41:53
March 22 2008 11:40 GMT
#1910
Thats nice energies, so when your 100% proof comes out to be 0% proof then can we lynch you?

Let's put it this way, if i get lynched, i don't really mind - it's not going to aid the town in anyway, nor is it going to hamper the town except for wasting a days lynch. However, it puts you under some serious doubt - thus making you seem rather mafiaish. So all i ask is that if you waste your lynch on me, lynch energies tomorrow and lets see some red blood flow

btw i haven't read anyones 'list' of mafia, this is just speculation on my end via checking post histories in this thread (<3 blue power)
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 22 2008 11:54 GMT
#1916
Mafia setting up Empyrean
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-22 12:33:05
March 22 2008 12:21 GMT
#1919
+ Show Spoiler [Mr Pink] +
"Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans.

Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock.

He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after

OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live.
Traits
- Seems to be well composed
- Not phased by death, (necessary change?)
- Able fighter

Suspects

more_minerals cannot be a suspect imo, all his posts pertain to having fun whereas Mr Pink is calm and collected. heros_pink probably isn't either as he has been consistently hostile throughout the thread. Possibly could be BloodyC0bbler due to the number of blood references in the passage, but really not enough to go on here.


by the way, i think profiling each of the mafia from their phrases is a logical and smart way of identifying possible mafia, and i will continue to profile mafia as long as i can be bothered
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-22 13:10:52
March 22 2008 13:03 GMT
#1924
On March 22 2008 21:56 Scorch wrote:
i like your character analysis, Plexa. it shows you really put thought into this. but i don't know if this works out. Chuiu would have to have designed almost complete character profiles (one for each mafia) before the start of the game. while this might be possible, i think it is too much work even for our crazy workhorse Chuiu. plus, he wouldn't easily be able to reflect a mafia's posting/acting behaviour during the game, and everything would screw up when a mafia changes his signature. doing clues more or less spontaneously on a day-per-day basis yields much more flexibility.

i'm not sure if a 1:1 mapping of names in clues to mafia members exists. my doubt is being supported by xDark.Carnivalx's list of mafia names containing 17 names of mafias mentioned in the clues so far, whereas we have 20 mafias playing the game.

my list of possible suspects has no intersection with yours at all because we use completely different interpretation methods. maybe i do stuff too superficially, but it might also be that you think too complex.
Eventually w'ere bound to have some intersections and then bingo! At least thats my rationale

On March 22 2008 21:59 ZBiR wrote:
Show nested quote +
four men intercepted them

+
Show nested quote +
death was now a normal thing in Liquidia.

=
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Apocalypse
?

Just a thought, there are also colours associated with them.
Nice find!

Without a doubt that Sidewinder = the pale horse + Show Spoiler +
sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder <=> The word used to describe the colour of the 'pale' horse is the Greek word chloros or green. It is meant to convey the sickly green tinge of the deathly ill or recently dead. Since the literal translation 'green' does not carry these connotations in English the word is rendered 'pale' in most English translations.
that leaves Blackmamba, mrpink and eddie.

Eddie is the leader hence obviously the "White Horse" imo
+ Show Spoiler +
The rider of the white horse is very commonly interpreted to be the Antichrist figure, but such an interpretation ignores much of the imagery presented throughout the Revelation and many cross references of whom the Bible names as being given a crown. For instance, every other time the colour white is used in the Revelation, it is always representative of righteousness and holiness, and whenever the author, John, depicts a malevolent force, he consistently shows it as evil (the two beasts of chapter 13, or the scarlet beast and the prostitute of chapter 17). Because of this, there is no reason to interpret the white horse as representing anything other than something/someone that is righteous and holy. Even the terminology “conquering and to conquer” alludes to a righteous person, as the Greek term used here is used throughout the New Testament as a word meaning “to overcome” and “to be victorious.” In the 23 other times it is used in the New Testament (15 times in the Revelation alone), 22 of those instances refer to Christ or to His followers overcoming evil. So, in this 24th instance of the word (one of 15 times in the Revelation), it should be taken to mean the same thing: a righteous or holy force who is able to overcome and gain victory. Also, considering the rider is given a crown (something only seen to be given to Jesus or the 24 elders -- Daniel 7:13, 14, 27; Luke 1:31-33; Revelation 4:4, 10; 14:14), one would come to the conclusion the rider of the white horse is an individual on the side of good. Or it could be the antichrist in disguise, it is said that the antichrist would seem pure, and make himself seem righteous and working for peace while actually deceiving mankind.


Blackmamba = black and mrpink = red
+ Show Spoiler +
Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. <=> The rider of the second horse is generally held to represent War. The red colour of his horse represents blood spilled on the battlefield. He carries a greatsword, which represents battle and fighting. The Red Horse is also said to represent the Planet Mars.

However, Blackmamba really doesn't have any connection bar his name

This might mean that the four are connected somehow through some common feature.. i have an idea what this is but ill keep working on it before presenting a premature theaory
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-22 13:50:33
March 22 2008 13:48 GMT
#1931
The only reason my suspects are listed is because thats just how my minds thinks... and i just wanted to get everything on to a piece of paper [not literally] with the ultimate goal of trying to formulate something concrete

And yes i 100% with the statement that a clue can go multiple ways (i could miss something etc) and thats fine by me - the longer the game goes the more accurate the character description becomes and the more accurate the predictions are... its only night one, take a chill pill

oh and the WoJ thing came from a simple google search of your name
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 22 2008 13:59 GMT
#1934
On March 22 2008 22:55 LucasWoJ wrote:
Yes, but I'd like to establish myself as innocent from the beginning.

If I was to come out with a post that only said "I am not mafia. That clue is stupid." I would have rightly been met with a "That's very suspicious"

--- I can see how you used Warriors of Justice. I guess Chuiu does that a lot, but I still don't get the "make your mark" part.
With regard to WoJ? it would be a simple connection to the clan tag really.. could be applicable to a number of people
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-22 14:18:34
March 22 2008 14:17 GMT
#1936
Hittegods
There is almost nothing pointing towards him in any way. He was a strong supporter of Ace and hasn't posted during the night/day2. His quote possibly could be loosely linked to the deaths of blue/yogurt but really thats just stretching it.

Ghar
Outside of campaigning fucking hard for mayor, he hasn't posted a thing. His quote and country add up, and possibly could be Taipen snake. However, if he were Taipen then his quote wouldn't exactly apply to the happenings in the night (but the inactivity of Taipen in the 2nd night coincides with his absence). Thus there is a possibility, but a very small one.

L
Yet another player who dropped off suddenly after the Mayoral race; supporter of Randombum and also took a very mathematical approach to the game. He seemed to err on the side of caution with regard to empyrean, and well there isn't much to go on in terms of clues.

On March 22 2008 23:13 ZBiR wrote:
The whole thing about making a mark on somebody's head is taken from the movie Kill Bill, there was that scene during the wedding when Bill says something similar to what The Wolf said and shoots Uma Thurman in the head.


movie references > me obviously
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-27 02:46:59
March 22 2008 15:03 GMT
#1943
+ Show Spoiler [eddie] +
Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner".

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help.

Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat.
Traits
- Seems to be the leader of the group
- Likes to kick (Tekken reference?)
(- One of four horsemen of the apocalypse?)
- Seems to get lucky/panicky

+ Show Spoiler [sidewinder] +
Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black.

Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after.

Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust.
Traits
- Sickly appearance
- Periods of extreme skill and extreme unease (ie alternating in talent)
- Seems to be a minor character
(- One of four horsemen of the apocalypse?)

+ Show Spoiler [Joe] +
"Just let us go, you can run things however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there.

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.
Traits
- Follows Eddie's orders
(- Not present in Night's activities)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blonde] +
He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground.

He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead.

With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown.

He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot.
Traits
- Comes from nowhere (dark -> light)
(- Possibly connected to a smiley face)
- Shotgun user (possibly killing DD on day1)

+ Show Spoiler [King Brown Snake] +
King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again.
Traits
- Blockade
(- not present in night)

+ Show Spoiler [Cottonmouth] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm.

NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.
Traits
- Knives = weapon of choice
- Leaves his victims to die slowly
(- Not present in opening night)

+ Show Spoiler [Snake Charmer] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door.

Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.
Traits
- Uses swords
(- Possible kill bill reference)
(- Not present in opening night)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr White] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door.

He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.

- Stomped a head
(- Not present in opening night)

+ Show Spoiler [The Wolf] +
The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head.
Traits
- Remorseful, respectful
- "Made his mark"
- Didn't kill anyone in night
(- Kill bill reference)

+ Show Spoiler [Black Mamba] +
Yogurt had thrown a rock that struck Black Mamba in the face with much ease.

Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help.

Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off.
Traits
- Works closely with Eddie, possibly direct underling
- Uses his legs to kill
- Hit in the face with a rock
(- Not present in opening night)
(- Potentially associated with 4 horsemen of the apocalypse)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Brown] +
As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring.

Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him.
Traits
- Possibly yells alot
- Support character
(- Similar to king brown snakes trading glares, diff character therefore not clue imo)
(- Not in opening night)

+ Show Spoiler [Taipan Snake] +
He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time.

They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device
Traits
- Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons)
- (Australian connection, Taipan is a highly venomous snake)
- Electronics connection

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Red/Mr Black] +
Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black.
Traits
- Nothing
- Not present in last night

+ Show Spoiler [Enigma] +
Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"

The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can".

Traits
-
(- Not present in last night)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Pink] +
"Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans.

Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock.

He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after

OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live.
Traits
- Seems to be well composed
- Not phased by death, (necessary change?)
- Able fighter
(- Potentially one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blue] +
Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out.
Traits
- Concerned with who will be mayor
- Last word

Total mafia count: 17
Mafia unrevealed: 3
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March 22 2008 15:05 GMT
#1945
On March 22 2008 23:32 JeeJee wrote:
a recurring statement:

day1
Show nested quote +
He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake...


day2
Show nested quote +
climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged...


unfortunately, i've gone through the profiles and can't seem to find anyone that has a face-to-face thing going on for them. i didn't look @ profile pics though, maybe someone could skim through those quick? :O

edit: ok current suspect list for this quote (thx to heros)pink contribution) in order of likelyhood (completely imho)

nemy - profile Pic, chick looking at her face in mirror
RowdierBob - profile pic, animation guys looking at each other
heros)pink - profile pic, 2 people looking in each other's eyes (trading glares)
omfghi2u2 - name
LemMe - quote, what's up
while this is a recurring statement it applies to two different characters... however both have 'brown' in their name which could be something... however for the time being i think that this clue will lead us nowhere
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Last Edited: 2008-03-22 17:19:34
March 22 2008 17:14 GMT
#1970
On March 23 2008 02:04 Empyrean wrote:
No one else thinks the buckshot/eating lead/etc. clues link to

Caller's signature of "Bread, apples, very small rocks, cider, horses, sherry, mud, churches, lead"?
seriously doubt it, the shotgun maniac (mr blonde) is associated with coming from no where (ie swooping down, stepping out from the shadows) which to me is the major clue associated with him, not his choice of weaponry
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March 22 2008 17:29 GMT
#1974
On March 23 2008 02:26 LucasWoJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2008 02:04 Empyrean wrote:
No one else thinks the buckshot/eating lead/etc. clues link to

Caller's signature of "Bread, apples, very small rocks, cider, horses, sherry, mud, churches, lead"?


Actually, I thinl that it's the best clue we have. Chuiu repeated the lead reference twice, so I am almost positive it's some sort of a clue. My personal opinion is that it's the strongest clue we have, since most of the other ones are really just hit/miss + hope you get something good. The cellphone clue just strengthens our case against Caller.
The cellphone clue pertains to another mafia thus it doesn't strengthen our case against caller. Plus the 'lead' reference wasn't as direct as the other clue associated with Mr Blonde (coming from no where). The fact that a synonym for "lead" was used in the second day is enough for me to think that the case against caller is not as strong as some people are making out.

This goes for the repetition of faces meeting - it pertains to two separate mafia thus isn't anything we can really use as a clue for the time being.
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March 23 2008 11:00 GMT
#2088
This is my take on Ghar;;

What does Ghar mean?
According to wikipedia ghar can be one of three things - a childrens book, a bollywood movie, or the hindi word for 'home'.

What actions has Ghar taken
- Campaigned hard for mayor
- Activity dropped off over the weekend (no posting after the 20th)
-> SMB has offered an explanation for this
- Drew a picture of himself holding a mafias head in a campaign promotion tool

Which character is suspected of being Ghar?
+ Show Spoiler [Mr Pink] +
"Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans.

Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock.

He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after

OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live.
Traits
- Seems to be well composed
- Not phased by death, (necessary change?)
- Able fighter
(- Potentially one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse)

Do they match?
The first discrepancy is the timing. If SMB's explanation checks out then Ghar was not around to vote in the night phase of the game - thus works against him being mafia. However, he could have pm'd ahead of time with an explanation, dno.

Ghar always portrays a sense of being well composed in his posts, and this characteristic checks out with Mr Pink. I think the phrase "reminding them" is particularly important, this implies that our Mr Pink has said that 'death is now a common thing in liquidia' or something to that effect already in this thread. I could quote some stuff that Ghar's said, but just take my word for it, Ghar has always seemed complacent about killing people. His signup thread post was 'lemme at em', the emphasis on DEATH in his picture etc. but this does NOT coincide with Mr Pink's attitude imo or with what he was reminding liquidia.

The "Meteor Hammer" point raised earlier on makes me think that Ghar is being set up. Ghar's own mayor plan would have himself lynched in the first day if he was mafia. That in addition to a number of similarities not definite links between himself and Mr Pink make me think that is was someone who worked closely with Ghar - not Ghar himself. However, this could be completely wrong as "Meteor Hammer" is in Kill Bill not reservoir dogs (where Mr pink comes from iirc).

In conclusion,. there is enough doubt to make me think that Ghar is not mafia, but in fact is being set up by the clues (ala Live2Win) and i suspect it is someone who would be connected to Ghar in some way.
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Last Edited: 2008-03-23 13:44:35
March 23 2008 12:03 GMT
#2091
Here's a PM convo i had recently - made me consider Ghar as much more of a mafia candidate than previously

While the evidence against ghar is rather condemning, it's all rather circumstantial. Ghar's sig (which i am aware of but simply forgot to include it) fits the night scene perfectly. Delving further Mr Pink should be the "Red Horseman" ie the horse of war. This further reinforces the mafia connection..

Considering this fact, (disregard my first sentence) here is a list of facts against him;

* Drawing of head
* Accepting of death
* Fits horseman description
* Martial arts -> able fighter
* Character seems to fit with Mr Pink's



Against;

* Wasn't around for the night vote
* Chuiu possibly didn't know about the martial arts connection
* Ghar's motives in being campaigning don't stack up to a mafia candidate

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
hi!

i just read your latest post. i'd like to direct your attention towards ghar's signature, which you seem to have left out of your reasoning:

"All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time."

this is a quote by some reckless general whose troops are surrounded by enemies, but who still remains positive and not afraid of losing.

now when you connect this to mr. pink's traits...

Traits
- Seems to be well composed
- Not phased by death, (necessary change?)
- Able fighter
(- Potentially one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse)

... i think this fits the second and third trait quite well. the general isn't afraid of dying, even though outnumbered. and, as a professional soldier, he is a good fighter as well.

furthermore, as SoMuchBetter said, Ghar is currently inactive due to a martial arts appointment. i have no idea if Chuiu knew this and would use this as a hint, but Ghar being a fighter himself would fit Mr.Pink's third character trait perfectly.

and say what you will, but the picture of him holding the scalp of a chopped-off head fits just too well.

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March 23 2008 12:11 GMT
#2093
On March 23 2008 21:06 Bockit wrote:
What's this 'night vote' thing?
iirc, mafia submit their votes Chuiu once day turns to night- ghar wasn't around to vote
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March 23 2008 12:16 GMT
#2096
On March 23 2008 21:12 Bockit wrote:
Don't mafia have the advantage where they just send in a list of suspects(not voted on)? I remember people (Read: Tracil) bringing that up as imba in the previous game... has it changed?
im sure that the hits are still associated to particular mafia members.. but i might be wrong
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March 23 2008 12:25 GMT
#2099
if the player has no direct influence on the hits (ie not associated with the hits) then it just looks worse for ghar
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Last Edited: 2008-03-23 14:27:06
March 23 2008 14:21 GMT
#2111
On March 23 2008 23:15 Hollander wrote:
If Ghar hasn't posted anything about being a martial artist(nothing in his profile, nor in the two posts linked in the profile), the martial artist 'link' doesn't apply.

Only way it would apply, is by linking his name to the Naruto-character 'Gara' who is a ninja and therefore an abled fighter.. But this link/clue is just weak :<

And just to feed the people who needs it with a spoon:

Show nested quote +

Clues can be taken from anywhere, so long as I see it relating to the person they are intended for. This means posts, names, sigs, profiles, blogs, things related to names, etc.

Posting clues derived from personal knowledge would be unfair:
'I know his toenail is black and blue from bruising' results in a clue like 'and all that was left at the scene was a pair of black and blue socks' ..
The fact he is a good fighter can be linked to the fact he is the "red horseman" from the 4 horses of the apocalypse (something picked up a couple pages back, circa 97 iirc). This connects to Ghar's quote and thus we have ourselves a candidate for mafia

The origins of Ghar's quote are from
"All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time"
- Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesty_Puller

In short that guy was the most decorated marine in history, therefore a VERY accomplished fighter. Ladies and gentlemen, is that not a rather strong connection right there?
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March 23 2008 23:28 GMT
#2268
I think..
Lostyourskills = eddie
Ghar = Mr. Pink
Energies = Taipan Snake
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March 23 2008 23:53 GMT
#2276
On March 24 2008 08:48 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2008 08:45 Naib wrote:
On March 24 2008 08:29 Ace wrote:
Also, after today's vote we'll see who didn't vote at all and bump them up in the suspect list.


I don't suspect Pink or French, I'd say they're just stirring cr*p immaturely.



At this point thats a good enough reason to get rid of them both.
I disagree, wasting a lynch on a probable townie is never worth it... just ignore them
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March 24 2008 00:53 GMT
#2297
On March 24 2008 09:25 Showtime! wrote:
What gives you any authority to say that oh wise one?

There are many references that could link Ghar to Eddie. There is no denying it.
There are very few references linking ghar to eddie...

there are MANY references linking Mr Pink to ghar ;;
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March 24 2008 01:38 GMT
#2316
On March 24 2008 10:06 Falcynn wrote:
Kind of funny to see that Mandalor isn't even trying to defend his case (he was on earlier), he realizes he's fucked and is just taking it.
he's not online
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March 24 2008 01:42 GMT
#2319
On March 24 2008 10:39 Falcynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2008 10:24 BlindAlbino wrote:
what clue has been linked to mandalor? why so many vote? i still think str = mafia
If anyone's confused, what has happened (or from what I can figure out) is that some people PM'd Ace claiming to be detective. As a test Ace had them all role check a guy whose role he already knew. Out of all the people that claimed to be detective, Mandalor was the ONLY one to get the role check wrong. Also as I've said before, Mandalor was on earlier (and made a post I believe) and he didn't even try to defend his case, meaning that he probably realizes he's been outed and is just gonna take his punishment like a man.
iirc he never responded - he did not get the thing wrong afaik
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March 24 2008 01:47 GMT
#2323
On March 24 2008 10:40 Falcynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2008 10:38 Plexa wrote:
On March 24 2008 10:06 Falcynn wrote:
Kind of funny to see that Mandalor isn't even trying to defend his case (he was on earlier), he realizes he's fucked and is just taking it.
he's not online
He was online earlier, I saw him post a little while after Ace revealed his findings.
Mandalor March 24, 2008 06:41 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Day 2] Direct Link

Well, I had some rl going and chuiu didn't reply within 2 hours of my pm sent.
Sorry for that, I wrote you a PM now. Hope this clears things up. if not, gl town!

that was his defense
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March 24 2008 01:51 GMT
#2328
On March 24 2008 10:47 Falcynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2008 10:47 Plexa wrote:
On March 24 2008 10:40 Falcynn wrote:
On March 24 2008 10:38 Plexa wrote:
On March 24 2008 10:06 Falcynn wrote:
Kind of funny to see that Mandalor isn't even trying to defend his case (he was on earlier), he realizes he's fucked and is just taking it.
he's not online
He was online earlier, I saw him post a little while after Ace revealed his findings.
Mandalor March 24, 2008 06:41 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Day 2] Direct Link

Well, I had some rl going and chuiu didn't reply within 2 hours of my pm sent.
Sorry for that, I wrote you a PM now. Hope this clears things up. if not, gl town!

that was his defense

Look at my last post (bottom of the last page(page 116)).
yes i just saw it i totally missed that haha
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March 24 2008 02:38 GMT
#2333
Heros)Pink =/= Mr Pink
Ghar = mafia <=> Ghar = Mr Pink
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Last Edited: 2008-03-24 03:25:30
March 24 2008 03:18 GMT
#2345
On March 24 2008 11:42 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2008 11:38 Plexa wrote:
Heros)Pink =/= Mr Pink
Ghar = mafia <=> Ghar = Mr Pink


By that logic, Ghar is mafia IF AND ONLY IF Ghar is Mr. Pink. I'm sure one direction is easy to show but what about the other?
Here's my rationale;

For

* Drawing of head
* Accepting of death
* Fits horseman description
* Martial arts -> able fighter
* Character seems to fit with Mr Pink's
* Signature refers to the most decorated marine ever -> able fighting


Against;

* Chuiu possibly didn't know about the martial arts connection (countered by marine sig)
* Ghar's motives in being campaigning don't stack up to a mafia candidate

All those characteristics stack up to him being Mr Pink, who is of course mafia
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March 24 2008 03:27 GMT
#2358
On March 24 2008 12:19 SoMuchBetter wrote:
there was no connection between ghar and martial arts until i posted it like 5 pages back
Yes, but that being said his quote is a direct reference to the most decorated Marine in US military history. Therefore it is safe to assume that this marine was a good fighter, therefore the connection is still there
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Last Edited: 2008-03-24 03:34:09
March 24 2008 03:32 GMT
#2364
On March 24 2008 12:27 Showtime! wrote:
They aren't we're fine as we are right now. He's just flapping.

Plexa PINK RIBBON, BREAST CANCER ANYONE? The election ribbon he's wearing could easily be tied to the ribbon for breast cancer research.
mmm i dont think thats a connection...
the ribbon is more your stereotypical medal for something..
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

vs
[image loading]


i just dont see it

this is a closer match;
[image loading]

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Last Edited: 2008-03-24 11:18:37
March 24 2008 11:16 GMT
#2431
On March 24 2008 17:56 Alethios wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2008 17:52 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
I'm beginning to think that next game we might think about PM's not being allowed except for mafia, because as a vanilla townie im not even involved in this game at all anymore and have no way of finding out what's going on.

It makes sense to go for the winning strategy, so let's just tweak the rules so that this kind of situation can't happen (half the people in this game are plain townies for gods sake...)

I'm actually feeling something similar to this at the moment. I'm withholding judgment for a day or two though, because I think it will pick up big time.
the clues townies pick up are invaluable and are the basis of lynching/vigil work

once the game goes on a bit and the blues start to fall then we'll take a more important role just you wait!


btw if i die tonight, please continue on profile each individual character.. those can easily distinguish when players cross clues between different mafia members to make a connection. And as i've already shown, that Ghar fits Mr Pink and no other mafia - and that technique could serve us well
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Last Edited: 2008-03-24 11:51:15
March 24 2008 11:50 GMT
#2435
On March 24 2008 20:32 Ninja4ever. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2008 20:12 Naib wrote:
I still think that the clues interpreted vs Ninja4ever are wrong leads pointing to other people

(in other words: hey, I am not suspicious of you!)

P.s.: Nice lynching Ace, way to go!


Cool, at least one person trust me
Lets analyze your position shall we?

If you were going to be mafia you would be cottonmouth

+ Show Spoiler [Cottonmouth] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm.

NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.
Traits
- Knives = weapon of choice
- Leaves his victims to die slowly
(- Not present in opening night)

Now lets examine you..

Your ID Ninja4ever implies that you are a stealthy weapons master, and that you are well a ninja. Your sig is a Ghandi quote, interesting paradox really. On top of that you have said v-e-r-y little and nothing important at that. Basically the only connection between you and Cottonmouth is your id. However, Ninja's tend to work alone - so working in a group doesn't fit with the id. However the precision of the knives does suggest ninja like precision. Your persona also does not match that of Cottonmouth.

With nothing else to go on, i'd say that the conclusion is inclusive at best. And an estimated probability of Mafia to be 10%... There isn't enough evidence to suggest anything after one night - and im sure there are better candidates out there.
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March 25 2008 10:25 GMT
#2713
I'm really against Wurm being labeled a suspect - there is nothing at all to suggest that he is mafia except for some rather minor points in my honest opinion. There is a medic problem, yes, but perhaps its not with wurm.

There are suspects that we can connect to hard evidence - why not go after some of those hints rather than this...
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March 25 2008 13:13 GMT
#2721
On March 25 2008 22:05 Showtime! wrote:
KILL THE !@#$!

He's one of them. Let him bleed!! KILL the PILIPINO!!

If you aren't with US you are ONE of THEM, ONE of THEM!!

Ninja star attack!!

Because Plexa if it isn't him then it is only two other people. We've narrowed it down and if he wants to be a little bitch, well to be frank he deserves to get his teeth kicked into the curb like the rebel he is!

Communists for the win! Fascists for the win!
I wish i knew who the others were so i could run them against my profiles and come back with some answers
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Last Edited: 2008-03-25 13:58:45
March 25 2008 13:30 GMT
#2723
okay i am 100% convinced that wurm is innocent, and according to the info i just got pmd (may be linked in this thread? iono)..
the alternatives to wurm are useless and ShadowDrgn

useLess
-> Quote refers to organic chemistry
-> No other information available
-> Name implies that he is useless

Thus, only possible mafia connection would be to Mr Black, Mr Red and possibly King Brown Snake...

no connection here at all, nothing to suggest he is mafia

ShadowDrgn
-> his profile says that he plays a lot of first person shooters
-> his name (obv) has to do with shadows and dragons
-> his actions are rather 'bland' and unintrusive - he's lying low

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blonde] +
He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground.

He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead.

With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown.

He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot.
Traits
- Comes from nowhere (dark -> light)
(- Possibly connected to a smiley face)
- Shotgun user (possibly killing DD on day1)

Do the two match? Why yes they do... Firstly there isn't alot of information regarding shadowdrgn, and chuiu said that ppl shouldn't complain if the clues are kinda obvious if they have a lack of clues.

The FPS connection checks out with the Shotgun association
His name connects with the fact on both nights he came out from nowhere
A weaker clue can be seen in his I.D. "Shadowdrag[/b]oo[/b]n". Shadow Dragoon => Stalker (Sc2) which can blink in and out of trouble similar to just appearing from no where, just like Mr Blonde.

Rather strong clue connection here and considering the fact he is also on the Ghar list (1/7 remember?) i strongly believe this is your mafia man
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March 26 2008 10:49 GMT
#2903
*sigh*

while you make some valid points Alethios you continually resort to claiming the moral high ground in all the arguments while not developing your own. TBH some of your points are really weak.. its a shame you are a fellow kiwi

Anyway, Ace's plans will obviously work. As far as i can tell is that this plan isn't to identify all mafia 100% in the first go, its to build a better picture of the towns make up and change various probabilities when calculating risk. This is justification enough for me to go along with his plan.
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Last Edited: 2008-03-28 03:09:18
March 28 2008 03:07 GMT
#3239
+ Show Spoiler [eddie] +
Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner".

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help.

Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat.

As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him Frenh_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.
Traits
- Seems to be the leader of the group
- No preferred method of killing (darts/glass and kicking so far)
(- One of four horsemen of the apocalypse?)

+ Show Spoiler [sidewinder] +
Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black.

Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after.

Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust.

In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. He handed Sidewinder a drug to help him recover and started back to his van but Sidewinder reached into his coat pocket and pulled out a note. "LucasWoJ" was written on it and he quickly chased him and tackled him to the ground. LucasWoJ tried to fight back but was overwhelmed by the stench on the mans coat and became sick all over the sidewalk while Sidewinder was beating him. He recovered from being sick and pulled an anesthetic out of his pocket and stabbed Sidewinder with it, putting him to sleep. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ.
Traits
- Sickly appearance
-> recurring theme of sickness
-> Sickness might be a result of heavy drinking (clue)
- Periods of extreme skill and extreme unease (ie alternating in talent)
(- One of four horsemen of the apocalypse?)

+ Show Spoiler [Joe] +
"Just let us go, you can run things however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there.

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you".
Traits
- Used a gun to kill LucasWoJ
- Perhaps a team player (supportive)
- Perhaps a connection to a Car? (vehicles used in recent clue)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blonde] +
He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground.

He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead.

With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown.

He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot.
Traits
- Comes from nowhere (dark -> light)
(- Possibly connected to a smiley face)
- Shotgun user (possibly killing DD on day1)

+ Show Spoiler [King Brown Snake] +
King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again.
Traits
- Blockade
(- not present in night)

+ Show Spoiler [Cottonmouth] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm.

NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.
Traits
- Knives = weapon of choice
- Leaves his victims to die slowly
(- Not present in opening night)

+ Show Spoiler [Snake Charmer] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door.

Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.
Traits
- Uses swords
(- Possible kill bill reference)
(- Not present in opening night)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr White] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door.

He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.
Traits
- Stomped a head

+ Show Spoiler [The Wolf] +
The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head.
Traits
- Remorseful, respectful
- "Made his mark"
- Didn't kill anyone in night
(- Kill bill reference)

+ Show Spoiler [Black Mamba] +
Yogurt had thrown a rock that struck Black Mamba in the face with much ease.

Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help.

Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off.
Traits
- Works closely with Eddie, possibly direct underling
- Uses his legs to kill
- Hit in the face with a rock
(- Not present in opening night)
(- Potentially associated with 4 horsemen of the apocalypse)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Brown] +
As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring.

Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.
Traits
- Possibly yells alot
-> Thematic talking
- Armed with weapons, used his fists however

+ Show Spoiler [Taipan Snake] +
He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time.

They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device

Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.
Traits
- Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons)
-> Used broken glass recently
- (Australian connection, Taipan is a highly venomous snake)
- Electronics connection
-> Thematic disabling of electronics

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Red] +
Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black.

Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. Mr. Red charged toward Dinmsab at the same time Dinmsab let go of the door and started running out the garage. Dinsamb smashed into Mr. Red and knocked him off guard but almost lost balance himself. As he began picking up speed he heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him.
Traits
- Second time he has been knocked over

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Black] +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now.

Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life.
Traits
- Very Strong
- Fits a bouncer image
- Brutal

+ Show Spoiler [Enigma] +
Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"

The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can".
Traits
- Righteous
- Eager to to what he sees is right

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Pink] +
"Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans.

Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock.

He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after

OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.
Traits
- Quiet, well composed
- Sadistic, violent
- Able fighter
-> Eager to fight
(- Potentially one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blue] +
Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out.
Traits
- Concerned with who will be mayor
- Last word

+ Show Spoiler [Copperhead] +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape.
Traits
- Has an accent (possibly southern USA)
- Likes to torment/taunt his victims

+ Show Spoiler [California Mountain Snake] +
the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake.

He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead.
Traits
- Respectful
- Accurate to an insane degree
(- Possibly asian)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Orange] +
But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut.

Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house.
Traits
- Cuts phonelines

Total mafia count: 20

Max is obviously a vigilante so i won't analyze him.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 28 2008 03:51 GMT
#3268
towns fault in my opinion...

its a result of the high organisation that we have undertaken and well, the mafia is mafia and has to what it has to do to win.

This is a game of war, and the mafia got one up on us - lets take it as a chink in our armor and move on
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 28 2008 05:45 GMT
#3300
+ Show Spoiler [sidewinder] +
Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black.

Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after.

Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust.

In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. He handed Sidewinder a drug to help him recover and started back to his van but Sidewinder reached into his coat pocket and pulled out a note. "LucasWoJ" was written on it and he quickly chased him and tackled him to the ground. LucasWoJ tried to fight back but was overwhelmed by the stench on the mans coat and became sick all over the sidewalk while Sidewinder was beating him. He recovered from being sick and pulled an anesthetic out of his pocket and stabbed Sidewinder with it, putting him to sleep. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ.
Traits
- Sickly appearance
-> recurring theme of sickness
-> Sickness might be a result of heavy drinking (clue)
- Periods of extreme skill and extreme unease (ie alternating in talent)
(- One of four horsemen of the apocalypse?)

For Sidewinder i have recommend we look at Queasy further. He's made very little input into this thread (lying low, typical mafia strategy) despite the fact he's posted within the past two days. Also i can't find any other suspect which corresponds to the traits of sidewinder as well as queasy.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 29 2008 15:42 GMT
#3442
meh i wouldve changed my vote to vote for ghar, but well i was still going according to the old plan and then with chuiu's post and all i feel bad if i change my vote
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 29 2008 19:24 GMT
#3445
On March 30 2008 04:23 LTT wrote:
Didn't vote for ghar but should have - 4
Plexa
Fishball (dead)
Siefu
SoMuchBetter
Unforgiven_ve
On March 30 2008 00:42 Plexa wrote:
meh i wouldve changed my vote to vote for ghar, but well i was still going according to the old plan and then with chuiu's post and all i feel bad if i change my vote


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Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 29 2008 19:34 GMT
#3448
Why oh why did we lynch wurm -.-;
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 29 2008 19:39 GMT
#3454
On March 30 2008 04:35 0cz3c wrote:
Because he was annoying to the town, and Ace told half of the list to lynch him.
No he wasnt, Ace just got really suspicious of him for a rather pathetic reason

Now that Ghar's come up green, i'm beginning to lose faith in the clues... especially after checking the last set of clues and how they relate (they are all really quite vague =/)
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-29 19:58:58
March 29 2008 19:51 GMT
#3461
On March 30 2008 04:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2008 04:39 Plexa wrote:
On March 30 2008 04:35 0cz3c wrote:
Because he was annoying to the town, and Ace told half of the list to lynch him.
No he wasnt, Ace just got really suspicious of him for a rather pathetic reason

Now that Ghar's come up green, i'm beginning to lose faith in the clues... especially after checking the last set of clues and how they relate (they are all really quite vague =/)


next round of killing will prob be a bit better of clues since we managed to fuck this up horribly.
We got lucky on day one that mandalor was an idiot..

im going to try find out what mafia he was though - might help us

+ Show Spoiler +
Mandalor could have been;
Mr White
Black Mamba
King Brown Snake
The Wolf
Mr Blue
Snake Charmer
Cottonmouth

Of these Snake Charmer seems to fit the best...
a google search of Mandalor's name reveals a common theme of knights (despite there being no real meaning for the name) Seeing as there are no other clues anywhere in mandalor's profile/quote etc im 99% he was snakecharmer

Perhaps this means that each mafia has one particular trait identified and used for making clues? That seemed to be a theme last game... i'm going to keep this in mind for future thought
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 29 2008 20:07 GMT
#3465
i agree with Meta, the mafia last game were silent; so why are we lynching the outspoken??
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 29 2008 20:10 GMT
#3468
And therefore we end up lychine more townies!

its a vicious cycle..
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 29 2008 20:14 GMT
#3472
On March 30 2008 05:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2008 05:10 Plexa wrote:
And therefore we end up lychine more townies!

its a vicious cycle..


maybe we can ask the mafia to raise their hands, and kill all those who dont....then all those who do.
No im not being serious.

we need a small group to really look over the clues and really research player names, etc...
Remember last game the clues pointing to fen were something you would have to wiki basically to learn.
If you read my spoiler in my post above (one of them anyway) im 99% sure there is one aspect of a player associated to a mafia clue (e.g. Quesillada's "Real men proxy" linking to his strength) so a suspect like ghar with multiple clues pertaining to him is was never likely to be mafia =/ (as with shadowdrgn)
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 29 2008 21:50 GMT
#3478
On March 30 2008 06:28 CDRdude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2008 04:51 Plexa wrote:
a google search of Mandalor's name reveals a common theme of knights (despite there being no real meaning for the name)


No real meaning for the name? Are you kidding me? Mandalor clearly refers to the Mandalorians, an extinct race in Star Wars. In the movies, Boba Fett was well known for his distinctive Mandalorian battle armor. Sorry for the non sequitur, but this is important to me
fair enough i dont know my starwars as well as you obviously! The link is still there, although swords dont correspond to bounty hunters.. maybe another link is better?
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 30 2008 03:01 GMT
#3501
On March 30 2008 11:24 0cz3c wrote:
I'm wondering why Ninja4Ever has not been put as suspicious, yet. At this point, I see two obvious clues pointing at him.

http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67925&currentpage=48#958

Shadowdrgn makes clear that in the first Day post, one of the mafia came out of nowhere, begging the similarity of a ninja. That may not seem captivating by itself, but in the Day 3 post, a clue pointing to Ninja comes again.

"He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead."

From the "thrown some at him," I'm really suspecting a ninja star, or blade, or whatever those things are. That's THE only object I can come up with that would slice his head clean off by being thrown.


I don't know if he's innocent or now, or if Ace knows whether he's innocent or not, but these clues seem, apart from the bum clues with Sidewinder, to be the strongest we have. They were mentioned before, and I think they ought be revisited.
The original mafia pertaining to Ninja4ever was + Show Spoiler [Cottonmouth] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm.

NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.
Traits
- Knives = weapon of choice
- Leaves his victims to die slowly
(- Not present in opening night)

The accuracy with the knives tipped us off to think of ninjas

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blonde] +
He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground.

He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead.

With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown.

He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot.
Traits
- Comes from nowhere (dark -> light)
(- Possibly connected to a smiley face)
- Shotgun user (possibly killing DD on day1)

This is the mafia that appears from the shadows (and likes shotguns )

+ Show Spoiler [California Mountain Snake] +
the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake.

He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead.
Traits
- Respectful
- Accurate to an insane degree
(- Possibly asian)

and this is the most recent example of ninja-esque behavior. The fact that he bowed is a clue imo.

There are three similar characters in this way, the closest being California Mountain Snake (bowing doesn't add up) and Cottonmouth (knives > stars why?)

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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-30 04:09:37
March 30 2008 04:07 GMT
#3502
Ok, here is my list of suspicious people.

Wizard as possibly California Mountain Snake
+ Show Spoiler [California Mountain Snake] +
the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake.

He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead.
Traits
- Respectful
- Accurate to an insane degree
(- Possibly asian)

The connection here is between the wizards hat and the hat he took off as he bowed. If the hat becomes a theme wizard should be a suspect

Amber[LighT] as Copperhead
+ Show Spoiler [Copperhead] +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape.
Traits
- Has an accent (possibly southern USA)
- Likes to torment/taunt his victims

From the connection between Carmel and Copperhead (im not great on accents though =/)

str as Taipan Snake
+ Show Spoiler [Taipan Snake] +
He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time.

They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device

Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.
Traits
- Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons)
-> Used broken glass recently
- (Australian connection, Taipan is a highly venomous snake)
- Electronics connection
-> Thematic disabling of electronics

No units = no power, no batteries = no power. The single point here is thematic and relates. Rather strong feeling about this one.

MTF as Enigma
+ Show Spoiler [Enigma] +
Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"

The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can".
Traits
- Righteous
- Eager to to what he sees is right

This is rather nice "The self-righteously ignorant are the only ones who ever truly believe they've got everything figured out." hello Enigma's persona! rather sure about this clue too

Queasy as Sidewinder
+ Show Spoiler [sidewinder] +
Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black.

Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after.

Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust.

In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. He handed Sidewinder a drug to help him recover and started back to his van but Sidewinder reached into his coat pocket and pulled out a note. "LucasWoJ" was written on it and he quickly chased him and tackled him to the ground. LucasWoJ tried to fight back but was overwhelmed by the stench on the mans coat and became sick all over the sidewalk while Sidewinder was beating him. He recovered from being sick and pulled an anesthetic out of his pocket and stabbed Sidewinder with it, putting him to sleep. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ.
Traits
- Sickly appearance
-> recurring theme of sickness
-> Sickness might be a result of heavy drinking (clue)
- Periods of extreme skill and extreme unease (ie alternating in talent)
(- One of four horsemen of the apocalypse?)

The recurring sickness relates to Queasy more than any other person in this game.

suresh0t as Mr Orange
+ Show Spoiler [Mr Orange] +
But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut.

Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house.
Traits
- Cuts phonelines

Garage connection, tools connection, there is a strong connection between these clues and this picture from his profile.

MidnightGladius as Snake Charmer
+ Show Spoiler +
Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.
Traits
- Uses swords
(- Possible kill bill reference)
(- Not present in opening night)

(Snake charmer might be Mandalor, possibly not given the mandalorian reference). His picture is of a sword, rather blatant clue - but so was tomissthemark. Also his quote advocates change which connects to another mafia member

Also, i have my eye on Clazziquai (band reference), Sonuvbob (profile references, drop of activity), aZnvaLiaNce (asian connection + profile info), MoRe_mInErAls (god picture), Lysithea (quote)(nice profile pic, i love it ^^!), 0cz3c (latin quote, dealing with immortality), ahara_ (asian connection), Naib (picture and quote), BuGzlToOnl (breaking the code), Zeks (quote), rpf (quote). Those people have something there which can be attributed to one or more mafia but im not certain enough about the clues to say anything conclusive yet
+ Show Spoiler +
while the clue links are rather tenuous, remember in mafia 1 how streched the clues were? one facet about each player was taken and inspired the clues.. this is what i've done here; taken one clue from people and matched it to a recurring theme in a mafia. This is what makes me so confident in my accusations

if i die tonight, you know im on to something
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 30 2008 04:28 GMT
#3507
On March 30 2008 13:16 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
i have a rather stronger feeling towards energy than str, as his nick refers to energy and is from australia = taipan snake
Energies was my original suspect for Taipan but its too obvious

There's just too many clues pertaining to him and taipan and thats NOT chuiu's style let me make some lists up
+ Show Spoiler [Taipan Snake] +
He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time.

They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device

Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.
Traits
- Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons)
-> Used broken glass recently
- (Australian connection, Taipan is a highly venomous snake)
- Electronics connection
-> Thematic disabling of electronics

Energies;
Australian = connects to Taipan Snake as taipan is a highly venomous snake from australia
Energy = recurring theme in taipans character (but only electrical energy)

Its too obvious to be true imo (look at ghar for example and shadowdrgn, we had comparable amounts of evidence pointing to them as we do to energies and we were wrong - this is because chuiu doesn't write clues in this style)

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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-30 04:56:26
March 30 2008 04:41 GMT
#3513
On March 30 2008 13:34 Energies wrote:
Need to figure out who Mandalor was, that way we can analyse Chuiu's clue styles.

Just out of curiosity, has anyone seen rpf make any posts or even vote? I'm wonder whether he is completely inactive or just keeping cover, if he is just inactive, I'm wondering why he hasn't been replaced. Otherwise I'm sure there are a lot of people completely inactive, he is just one name that stands out for me.
Thats currently my task, will report back once i've done some research on what the fuck mandalors are

Possibilities;
- Mr White
- Black Mamba
- King Brown Snake
- Mr Blue
- The Wolf
- Cottonmouth
- Mr Blonde
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 30 2008 05:21 GMT
#3517
On March 30 2008 14:14 CDRdude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2008 13:35 Empyrean wrote:
There's no way we can really say what Chuiu's "style" is. The best way to go about this is to let Ace and the DTs figure it out, although my faith in them was a little bit shaken after the last night's lynching.

And wtf, one DT didn't use his powers? What a nublet.

Remember guys, we already can analyze Chuiu's clue styles. Chuiu posted a full clue list at the end of the previous game, and the vast majority were written by him rather than Dapperdan.

Link here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66251&currentpage=155#3091
Actually, allow me to elaborate further;

Let's take Quesadilla. He was the strongman from the last mafia game, but where does this link come from? His name is representative of a food (maxican) and there are no obvious quotes linking to that. However THIS picture says 'real men proxy', the connection? Real Men -> buff and tough -> link; how abstract is that?!

Let's take Fen. In order to get the connection you needed to wikipedia "Fen" and you'll see that it was a quagmire -> mud -> boots and that was the main clue.

Let's take Empyrean. The connection was in his name looked up, which referred to position and god which was his single recurring clue throughout

etc
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-03 08:43:28
April 03 2008 08:41 GMT
#3633
YESSSS

MY CLUE IDEAS WERE RIGHT

ok now we know how to nail them i will construct somewhat of an argument to support this

EDIT: i will try to do this today or tomorrow
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-04 01:41:45
April 04 2008 01:05 GMT
#3669
+ Show Spoiler [eddie] +
Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner".

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help.

Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat.

As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him Frenh_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.


Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help"
Traits
- Seems to be the leader of the group
- No preferred method of killing (darts/glass and kicking so far)
(- One of four horsemen of the apocalypse?)

+ Show Spoiler [sidewinder] +
Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black.

Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after.

Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust.

In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. He handed Sidewinder a drug to help him recover and started back to his van but Sidewinder reached into his coat pocket and pulled out a note. "LucasWoJ" was written on it and he quickly chased him and tackled him to the ground. LucasWoJ tried to fight back but was overwhelmed by the stench on the mans coat and became sick all over the sidewalk while Sidewinder was beating him. He recovered from being sick and pulled an anesthetic out of his pocket and stabbed Sidewinder with it, putting him to sleep. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ.
Traits
- Sickly appearance
-> recurring theme of sickness
-> Sickness might be a result of heavy drinking (clue)
- Periods of extreme skill and extreme unease (ie alternating in talent)
(- One of four horsemen of the apocalypse?)

This mafia was Queasy

+ Show Spoiler [Joe] +
"Just let us go, you can run things however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there.

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you".
Traits
- Used a gun to kill LucasWoJ
- Perhaps a team player (supportive)
- Perhaps a connection to a Car? (vehicles used in recent clue)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blonde] +
He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground.

He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead.

With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown.

He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot.
Traits
- Comes from nowhere (dark -> light)
(- Possibly connected to a smiley face)
- Shotgun user (possibly killing DD on day1)

+ Show Spoiler [King Brown Snake] +
King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again.

New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there. New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself
Traits
- Blockade
- Thematic meeting of faces/gazes
- Gets pushed out of the way regualarly

+ Show Spoiler [Cottonmouth] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm.

NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.

He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him.

Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104
Traits
- Throws sharp objects (knives/nails)
- Delays killing for a long time
- Notice the repetition of numbers;
2-4-3-3-5-6-1
What could this sequence be alluding to?

+ Show Spoiler [Snake Charmer] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door.

Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.
Traits
- Uses swords
(- Possible kill bill reference)
(- Not present in opening night)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr White] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door.

He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.
Traits
- Stomped a head

+ Show Spoiler [The Wolf] +
The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head.

The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later.
Traits
- One shot kill
- targets the head

+ Show Spoiler [Black Mamba] +
Yogurt had thrown a rock that struck Black Mamba in the face with much ease.

Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help.

Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off.
Traits
- Works closely with Eddie, possibly direct underling
- Uses his legs to kill
- Hit in the face with a rock
(- Not present in opening night)
(- Potentially associated with 4 horsemen of the apocalypse)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Brown] +
As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring.

Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.
Traits
- Possibly yells alot
-> Thematic talking
- Armed with weapons, used his fists however

+ Show Spoiler [Taipan Snake] +
He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time.

They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device

Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.

Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. Taipan Snake walked up slowly and with a strange device fired out a direct current of electricity which proceeded to fry every inch of Empyrean.
Traits
- Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons)
-> Used broken glass recently
-> Used a taser like device
- Electronics connection
-> Thematic disabling of electronics
-> Thematic use of electricity (DC?)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Red] +
Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black.

Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. Mr. Red charged toward Dinmsab at the same time Dinmsab let go of the door and started running out the garage. Dinsamb smashed into Mr. Red and knocked him off guard but almost lost balance himself. As he began picking up speed he heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him.
Traits
- Second time he has been knocked over

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Black] +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now.

Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life.
Traits
- Very Strong
- Fits a bouncer image
- Brutal

+ Show Spoiler [Enigma] +
Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"

The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can".

Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground.
Traits
- Righteous
- Eager to to what he sees is right
--- Perhaps the clue changing relates to actions in the thread

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Pink] +
"Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans.

Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock.

He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after

OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.
Traits
- Quiet, well composed
- Sadistic, violent
- Able fighter
-> Eager to fight
(- Potentially one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blue] +
Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out.
Traits
- Concerned with who will be mayor
- Last word

+ Show Spoiler [Copperhead] +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape.
Traits
- Has an accent (possibly southern USA)
- Likes to torment/taunt his victims

+ Show Spoiler [California Mountain Snake] +
the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake.

He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead.
Traits
- Respectful
- Accurate to an insane degree
(- Possibly asian)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Orange] +
But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut.

Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house.
Traits
- Cuts phonelines

Total mafia count: 19 (one dead but unknown)
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-04 03:34:49
April 04 2008 02:27 GMT
#3670
It's time for a round of Plexa's suspects!


+ Show Spoiler [Cottonmouth] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm.

NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.

He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him.

Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104
Traits
- Throws sharp objects (knives/nails)
- Delays killing for a long time
- Notice the repetition of numbers;
2-4-3-3-5-6-1
What could this sequence be alluding to?

Theres obviously Ninja4ever that could relate to this. However, i feel that this clue doesn't quite fit correctly. However, the repetition of these numbers has got me thinking. Of all the people in this game fanatacist has the most numbers in his profile. Also his name pertains quite well to the character of Cottonmouth
Fanatic: Marked by excessive enthusiasm for and intense devotion to a cause or idea

Therefore i have arrived at the conclusion that cottonmouth = fanatacist for the time being




+ Show Spoiler [Snake Charmer] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door.

Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.
Traits
- Uses swords

Given the mass of hate towards aarav recently, i mayaswell state here that if he is going to be mafia he will be snake charmer. His picture is a zealot, zealots have "swords" as we all know. The method of attacking is strikingly similar to a zealot. This could be enough to warrant a clue based lynching in support of the other evidence.


+ Show Spoiler [The Wolf] +
The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head.

The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later.
Traits
- One shot kill
- targets the head

HotZhot is my primary suspect here. Notably because he has such good aim and whatnot. However, i am hesitant to convict him at this stage because of this;
[image loading]

His profile image looks like a wolf person - this means (imo) that he cannot be the character "The Wolf" with such a strong connection to the name. Up to the town i guess!


+ Show Spoiler [Taipan Snake] +
He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time.

They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device

Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.

Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. Taipan Snake walked up slowly and with a strange device fired out a direct current of electricity which proceeded to fry every inch of Empyrean.
Traits
- Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons)
-> Used broken glass recently
-> Used a taser like device
- Electronics connection
-> Thematic disabling of electronics
-> Thematic use of electricity (DC?)

Now, this is a clue which i am almost 100% certain is correct given the death of queasy.
[image loading]

This image is going to convict someone of being Taipan Snake. You see, Taipan Snake always uses some form of DC electricity. Last night it fired out a "direct current", the night before he removed batteries (from a DC circuit afaik) and the night before he was jamming electricity. There is a strong connection between the image and Taipan. There are no other characters which this could possibly be (str maybe, but he doesn't explain night 4) therefore;
Taipan Snake
is
d.arkive

Note that his quote about the refrigerator applied to night two clue of electronics in the house going haywire.
Note also that the "mysterious device" refers to that weird thing that the creature is holding


+ Show Spoiler [Enigma] +
Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"

The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can".

Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground.
Traits
- Righteous
- Eager to to what he sees is right
--- Perhaps the clue changing relates to actions in the thread

Enigma is proving to be an enigma for me... he is a difficult character to pin down exactly and this is really annoying. There are two candidates for enigma as i see it, MTF and MidnightGladius.
For MTF;
The self-righteously ignorant are the only ones who ever truly believe they've got everything figured out.
Pertains quite well to Enigma's personality and therefore is strong evidence connecting the two
While for MidnightGladius;
"It's time to acknowledge the inevitable. Stifle your pride and embrace the glory of change." - Volrath Ishnikar, the Faithless General
Also connects quite well

I need more evidence to pursue either any further


+ Show Spoiler [California Mountain Snake] +
the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake.

He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead.
Traits
- Respectful
- Accurate to an insane degree
(- Possibly asian)

The game is up SoMuchBetter
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

You are the only person in this game with any sort of reference to a hat. This small clue (as with the case of queasy) is enough evidence to suggest SMB is guilty.


+ Show Spoiler [King Brown Snake] +
King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again.

New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there. New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself
Traits
- Blockade
- Thematic meeting of faces/gazes
- Gets pushed out of the way regualarly

This thematic meeting of faces is really pushing me towards nemY as a suspect.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
That picture is the most similar to the faces meeting that i've seen from the profiles (unless ive missed some) and therefore is my primary suspect for King Brown Snake at this point in time


Also im 99% sure that Mr Blue is Mandalor, just waiting for one more night to confirm this
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 04 2008 04:16 GMT
#3675
The clue stands imo and therefore Hotshotz cannot be the Wolf
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-04 08:56:06
April 04 2008 08:54 GMT
#3680
building upon what aarav has said, there is only one tenuous clue linking him to mafia and i for one cannot stand by it as hard evidence. Until i see more, in my eyes aarav is green.

For now lets focus on killing more mafia and get this kill count down! Let's check out d.arkive, fanatacist and SMB where we've got one good link to them
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-04 09:57:46
April 04 2008 09:35 GMT
#3683
On April 04 2008 18:11 Scorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2008 14:19 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
im going with plexas rather than scorch's. His analysis is way more detailed and usually has a pretty good aim at hitting mafias

that's ok by me. my clue interpretations weren't meant to be in-depth. i had hoped an overlap would occur between my stuff and plexa's, but it didn't. so i will go with plexa's find of d.arkive. i'm not fully convinced, but it looks like a nice plausible link, a connection that chuiu would likely build into the clues. thanks for your work plexa!
I respect your analysis Scorch, he porbably doesn't like it because he is a suspect under your analysis !

Here is my take on your clues

+ Show Spoiler [The Wolf] +
+ Show Spoiler [The Wolf] +
The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head.

The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later.
Traits
- One shot kill
- targets the head

Scorch's analysis
Candidates for The Wolf:
SoMuchBetter because The Wolf does the nail throwing "so much better" than the other mafia. Medium clue.

- This is an interesting link, but it only corresponds to the most recent nights activity. The first night he seems almost remorseful when he kills Chuiu with no hint of him doing anything better. Perhaps you could make a case for 'leaving his mark' being a cocky thing to do, but i dno.

suresh0t because The Wolf kills with one sure shot. Medium clue.

- Fair enough, would correspond nicely with the first night too as it was exactly one shot to the head and he was dead. Nails could possibly correspond to his picture. He would be my other pick for the wolf

HotZhot for the same reason, HotShot being the same as a SureShot. Medium clue.

- We have overlap here. Less confident about this connection due to the similarity between his picture and the image of a wolf therefore not likely to be the wolf.

LostYourSkills' signature indicates that he is very skilled, like The Wolf. Medium clue.

- I can see the connection here, but it doesn't exactly line up with the first days clue. More evidence is needed before we can do anything with this.

+ Show Spoiler [Cottonmouth] +
+ Show Spoiler [Cottonmouth] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm.

NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.

He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him.

Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104
Traits
- Throws sharp objects (knives/nails)
- Delays killing for a long time
- Notice the repetition of numbers;
2-4-3-3-5-6-1
What could this sequence be alluding to?

Scorch's analysis
RtS)Night[Mare could be Cottonmouth placing 5 nails, then stabbing him with 6 more. Nightmare was born on the 5th of June(6). Very weak clue, but maybe smart and obscure enough to be a strong clue? There are a couple more possible combinations of numbers in this paragraph, this was just the one i stumbled upon.

- I saw Nightmare's as well and thought similar thoughts. The recurring theme of numbers is somewhat interesting. However, i beleive fanatacist pertains stronger to the clue of numbers.

ulszz's signature indicates that he is a noob (at throwing nails) and needs reminding (by The Wolf), so he could be Cottonmouth. Medium clue.

- Cottonmouth knows what he is doing i think. He purposely tortures his victims - although i might be wrong.

Eti307's could be Cottonmouth. signature: "A person who never made a mistake (missing a lot of nail throws) never tried anyething new (trying to kill someone with nails)". Plus the numbers could point at his name: stabbing the victim with 1+6=7 nails, then throwing 3 more, 0 of which hit the target. Medium clue plus a weak one.

- he was used last game and has little content left to use. There would be a time clue imo not this clue

LostYourSkills could be Cottonmouth, having lost all his nail throwing skills and thus missing thrice. Medium clue.

- As before, i beleive Cottonmouth to be highly skilled, i may be proven wrong, but as it stands hes skillful - but sadistic

suresh0t could be Cottonmouth using nails because he wields a hammer in his profile pic. who else would kill with nails? Strong clue.

- Disagree here, this only pertains to last nights kills not the first round of clues (knives). Therefore i doubt any connection here

+ Show Spoiler [Taipan Snake] +
+ Show Spoiler [Taipan Snake] +
parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time.

They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device

Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.

Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. Taipan Snake walked up slowly and with a strange device fired out a direct current of electricity which proceeded to fry every inch of Empyrean.
Traits
- Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons)
-> Used broken glass recently
-> Used a taser like device
- Electronics connection
-> Thematic disabling of electronics
-> Thematic use of electricity (DC?)

Scorch's analysis
str could be Taipan Snake grilling his prey with electrical power. Weak clue.

- str was a suspect before last nights clue. The no power clue is really lame considering 3 nights haven't actually had the power cut

Zeks could be Taipan Snake. His signature reminds me of an unresponsible policeman abusing his power to kill a guy with a tazer (with electrical power). Medium clue.

- There is no real concrete evidence here. This great responsibility quote has me thinking he's more suited to enigma than Taipan.

HotZhot could be Taipan Snake, "frying" Empyrean with the great heat signaled by HotZhot's name. Weak clue.

- Only pertains to last night, not all 4 nights

Energies' name relates to the tazer gun. Medium to strong clue, but maybe too obvious.

- Energies has too many clues against him for it to be true. This may seem like a contradiction - but look at Ghar and shadowdrgn who had multiple strong clues linking to them whereas Queasy had one clue only and he was mafia. Energies has wayyy too many clues against him for him to be mafia. Theres the energy connection, the australian connection etc which is too strong. Lynching him will be fruitless and i am 100% sure of this fact

+ Show Spoiler [Enigma] +
+ Show Spoiler [Enigma] +
Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"

The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can".

Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground.
Traits
- Righteous
- Eager to to what he sees is right
--- Perhaps the clue changing relates to actions in the thread

Scorch's analysis
HotZhot could be Enigma smiling back, according to his signature. Weak clue.

- Pertains only to last night, doesn't consider the character of Enigma as a whole

Caller could be Enigma "calling" his friends over to help him. Weak clue.

- Again, only pertains to the most recent events not the grand scheme

Unfogiven_ve could be smiling Enigma due to his smilie signature. Weak clue.

- As above

KorvspaD could be Enigma being fond of his friends (signature: "a friend with weed is a friend indeed..."). Medium clue.

- As above

BuGzIToOnI could be Enigma who loves his friends because of his signature. Weak clue.

- As above

Note, when looking for clues pertaining to Enigma you need to consider his whole character, which at the moment is rather enigmatic. I think MTF is a much stronger clue here, but then again ned more evidence to make a call on enigma
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 04 2008 10:09 GMT
#3687
On April 04 2008 19:06 araav wrote:
suresh0t seems a real suspect as of now
any particular reason?
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 04 2008 10:33 GMT
#3689
On April 04 2008 19:23 araav wrote:
reasons from your list - hammer, super shot
personally i beleive he is Mr Orange
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 04 2008 10:45 GMT
#3691
so yea that brings the suspect list to:

d.arkive
suresh0t
Hotzhot
SoMuchBetter
MTF
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 04 2008 10:53 GMT
#3693
On April 04 2008 19:49 Scorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2008 19:45 Plexa wrote:
so yea that brings the suspect list to:

d.arkive
suresh0t
Hotzhot
SoMuchBetter
MTF

i would even agree with this exact order you rock plexa.
Awesome!

Ace, your move
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 04 2008 11:40 GMT
#3696
On April 04 2008 20:30 araav wrote:
btw, do not wait Ace.
He may be somewhat humiliated after these failures, if he's a townie of course.

I wonder who of the detectives checked him

For the next game I propose adding the ability for the dead people to post one message after they die.

Or better - before the day lights - before anyone knows they are dead - they may send their will - any text - to Chuiu. If the person dies Chuiu publishes the dead person's will (in OP or special blog).
Why don't they just pm it to Ace?
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 05 2008 10:44 GMT
#3750
fusion, last game you were so active in your pms to me with your suspects and so on

why no analysis this game?
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 05 2008 14:20 GMT
#3752
On April 05 2008 23:13 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2008 19:44 Plexa wrote:
fusion, last game you were so active in your pms to me with your suspects and so on

why no analysis this game?

Well I'm suspecting Fusindf of being a mafioso since the begining, he's even in the list of suspect I had sent to Showtime! before he was killed. But i was suspecting him not on clues but by his play (feeling)
I have to agree with you pink, fusionsdf has lacked the traits he showed in the last round of mafia (even though he wasn't even in the game). Although i am having trouble sticking him to a character (there are a number of possibilities) but that being said, theres enough to warrant some kind of lynch here
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 05 2008 14:26 GMT
#3754
ace is roleblocked afaik
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 05 2008 14:44 GMT
#3756
On April 05 2008 03:52 Ace wrote:
hmm ok. Chew on this for a while:

Empyrean was roleblocked yesterday.
I'm roleblocked today.

p186
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Last Edited: 2008-04-06 05:54:42
April 06 2008 02:45 GMT
#3770
On April 06 2008 10:25 nemY wrote:
Plexa, while I like your analysis and observations, your clue linking to me seems waaaaaaaay too weak/far-fetched !
how so?

take a look at the clue linking to Quesadila last game, it was his picture of "Real men proxy" which linked to his strength - hows that for stretching it
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 06 2008 05:54 GMT
#3774
On April 06 2008 12:04 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2008 11:45 Plexa wrote:
On April 06 2008 10:25 nemY wrote:
Plexa, while I like your analysis and observations, your clue linking to me seems waaaaaaaay too weak/far-fetched !
how so?

take a look at the clue linking to Romance last game, it was his picture of "Real men proxy" which linked to his strength - hows that for stretching it


That was linking to Quesadilla, actually :p
oops yes corrected
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 07 2008 03:17 GMT
#3801
On April 07 2008 04:24 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I believe LostYourSkills to be Mafia, along with Energies, and I still suspect Ninja4Ever. I'm still in doubt as to whether the specific names refer to specific people. I suspect BlindAlbino too, but as I don't think there has been anything relating to being blind, except the darkness of the house in day 2 when Mynock went into the room with the lamp off...(edit) Mr. Blonde was also the one in the dark room, blonde = albino, dark room = blind...

I

I highly suspect Blind Albino...

Around now is when the Mafia should be speaking more, and he has been posting more....
Codename =/= Clue
Reasoning falls to pieces after that
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 07 2008 03:52 GMT
#3807
yea go me! only person voting SMB
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April 07 2008 05:58 GMT
#3815
i resent that "lost" statement chuiu!
tomorrow we will see red flow!
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April 07 2008 06:21 GMT
#3822
On April 07 2008 15:15 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2008 12:17 Plexa wrote:
On April 07 2008 04:24 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I believe LostYourSkills to be Mafia, along with Energies, and I still suspect Ninja4Ever. I'm still in doubt as to whether the specific names refer to specific people. I suspect BlindAlbino too, but as I don't think there has been anything relating to being blind, except the darkness of the house in day 2 when Mynock went into the room with the lamp off...(edit) Mr. Blonde was also the one in the dark room, blonde = albino, dark room = blind...

I

I highly suspect Blind Albino...

Around now is when the Mafia should be speaking more, and he has been posting more....
Codename =/= Clue
Reasoning falls to pieces after that


That's implying the code names have nothing to do with the person and that it's the same person every time for each code name. And how did he come up with the code names for each person...
Names are from movies (Quentin muvies, kill bill and reservoir dogs iirc)

And yes, each person is one mafia 99% sure (see Queasy -> sidewinder clues)
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 08 2008 07:15 GMT
#3872
On April 08 2008 10:23 fusionsdf wrote:
eh?

isnt mandalor mr blue?
yes
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 08 2008 07:56 GMT
#3875

Trancestorm (13)
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MTF
BloodyC0bbler
Meta
rpf
L
bumatlarge
smurfingchobo
MidnightGladius
Lenwe
unsoundlogic
Hittegods
GranDim
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 10 2008 11:41 GMT
#3988
ROFL SUP MOTHERFUCKERS
D.ARKIVE WAS MAFIA OMYGOD IM GOOD?

yo town, im on to some serious shit ya know what im saying?!

i got hit, TWICE and lived

motherfuckers

die you mafia scum shit fuck

double lynch time to mop the floor ok
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Last Edited: 2008-04-10 12:29:47
April 10 2008 12:26 GMT
#3999
this is the pivotal time in this mafia game - there is an abundance of clues and i encourage every single active member to look for the traits i post up. Seeing as i am now a principle Mafia target everyone needs to know how to analyse these clues - beacuse MAFIA CAN'T BULLSHIT THEIR WAY OUT OF A CLUE.

Hence i present to you;

How to catch Mafia 101
By Plexa
Teamliquid Final Edits


When pinning mafia to clues there a number of factors one must consider;

Clues take a single point from a player and extrapolate it out into a thematic idea.
Example one; d.arkive had his profile picture linking to "DC" and the mysterious device. That single image was extrapolated into a thematic use of electricity and a recurring device. One feature -> Mafia theme
Example two; Queasy had no information in his profile at all, thus the only clue could come from his name - Queasy. By definition Queasy means feeling sick. This definition was extrapolated into a thematic "sickly appearance" of sidewinder. One feature -> Mafia theme
Example three; Links aren't always clearcut, Quesidilla from Mafia 1 had a in his profile picture a sign saying "Real men proxy". This quote was extrapolated into the thematic strength/close quarters engagements with his character in mafia one - a hard clue but still; One feature -> Mafia theme

Players with many connections to a possible clue are not mafia.
This overlaps with point one, but it really needs to be emphasized.
Example 1; Ghar had many clues pertaining to him (e.g the Mayoral campaign, various clue references) and there was a really strong case for him being mafia. However, as the clues weren't pertaining to a single defining feature of him - he was innocent and we lynched him.
Example 2; Shadowdrgn had a number of references/dual meanings of his name and profile which linked nicely to Mr Blonde. However there was simply too stronger connection between the two - and sadly (as we learned) he too turned out to be town.
Its important to remember this as it allows many people to be instantly discarded from being Mafia

Never mix traits up between mafia
Unlike the first game, these clues are pertain to one mafia only. For instance the thematic idea of gazes meeting (before day 4) was linked to two different mafia therefore is NOT a thematic connection to a mafia; merely a coincidence.

Mafia codenames have no relevance to the player.
The names are derived from various Tarentino movies and hence purely placeholders. This is important when you look at characters like Mr Pink in relation to HeRoS)PiNK and the like who have pink in their name. The connection is purely fictitious therefore avoid it at all times.


Great, now we have a basic understanding of how these clues work, so how do we apply them? There are two methods, i identified Queasy using one, and d.arkive using the other so both are valid methods.

Take a player, analyse his profile for possible themes that could arise
This is how i caught d.arkive. I saw his profile and checked out his varying bits of information. Keeping in mind a vague idea of Mafia traits (e.g. Taipan Snakes use of "direct current") his picture eventually clicked with me. DC, direct current. Upon investigating the connection further - everything could be extrapolated from the picture; mafia identified

Take a mafia role, analyse the traits against various profiles
This is how i caught Queasy. Thinking about Sidewinder i knew that there would be a clue linking to sickness. After checking out a number of profiles i came to the conclusion that the most relevant clue to sickness was indeed Queasy - and hence it transpired that he was sidewinder.

Both of these methods are suited for particular situations. I'll do an example, analysing two confirmed innocent players - myself and TranceStorm. I will analyse myself using method one, and trancestorm using method two with the mafia Taipan Snake.

Plexa
Name: No meaning what so ever, no definitions, no abstract meanings no nothing. (origins actually come from the number "Googalplex" taking the plex at the end and adding an A, but anyone who gets that is a freak)
Signature: Clues possibly deriving from being a fan of someone, admiration perhaps? Progamer references are unlikely to be clues thus can be disregarded. Also perhaps a clue linking to the blogs - perhaps writing utencils?
Profile: Picture is of Plexa standing in from of the Tan Tien Buddha in Hong Kong thus perhaps some religious connection or perhaps a connection to asia

Rationalisation
Using the absolute clue hypothesis (see Clue analysis 201) clues must pertain to the entire section of the profile. Thus, as the signature has two very different focii a combination of fanboyism and blogging has no connections to any of the mafia profiles. Similarly when analyzing the picture clue we can reject any asian connections as there are far too many clues like that about hence we should focus on finding a religious theme - which is absent from mafia.

Hence Plexa is innocent.

TranceStorm

+ Show Spoiler [Taipan Snake] +
He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time.

They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device

Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.

Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. Taipan Snake walked up slowly and with a strange device fired out a direct current of electricity which proceeded to fry every inch of Empyrean.
Traits
- Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons)
-> Used broken glass recently
-> Used a taser like device
- Electronics connection
-> Thematic disabling of electronics
-> Thematic use of electricity (DC?)

When we glance over at TranceStorm profile and try to match it to the mafia we get;
Name: You have an interesting juxtaposition of tranquility against ferocity thus you would expect some kind of explosive mafia, which is calm then erupts in a quick flurry. The alternative is to have links to a Storm - which only somewhat applies
Signature: Blank
Profile: Blank

As we are looking for an Electricity connection, the Storm (and hence ID) don't really apply to this aspect of Taipan. Also, the juxtaposition of the name is also lacking from Taipan - hence it is fairly safe to assume that TranceStorm is not Taipan Snake and hence Trancestorm is not mafia.



Well there you have it, happy analysing! I encourage anyone and everyone to start analysing clues for yourself. It's really easy, and with this outline the town should be hitting mafia in no time. Expect to see an updated list of profiles very shortly!!
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Last Edited: 2008-04-13 11:53:31
April 10 2008 12:50 GMT
#4001
+ Show Spoiler [eddie] +
Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner".

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help.

Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat.

As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him Frenh_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.


Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help"

Lenwe snatched up the piece of rebar and Mr. Red retreated to the new threat he posed. Eddie wasn't afraid to take on Lenwe, however, and charged strait at him grabbing the steel bar right out of his hand and knocking him to the ground with it. A few well placed blows and Lenwe was dead as well.
Traits
- Seems to be the leader of the group
- No preferred method of killing (darts/glass, steel bar and kicking so far)
- Seems to be very strong

+ Show Spoiler [sidewinder] +
Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black.

Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after.

Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust.

In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. He handed Sidewinder a drug to help him recover and started back to his van but Sidewinder reached into his coat pocket and pulled out a note. "LucasWoJ" was written on it and he quickly chased him and tackled him to the ground. LucasWoJ tried to fight back but was overwhelmed by the stench on the mans coat and became sick all over the sidewalk while Sidewinder was beating him. He recovered from being sick and pulled an anesthetic out of his pocket and stabbed Sidewinder with it, putting him to sleep. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ.
Traits
- Sickly appearance
-> recurring theme of sickness
-> Sickness might be a result of heavy drinking (clue)
- Periods of extreme skill and extreme unease (ie alternating in talent)
(- One of four horsemen of the apocalypse?)

This mafia was Queasy

+ Show Spoiler [Joe] +
"Just let us go, you can run things however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there.

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you".
Traits
- Used a gun to kill LucasWoJ
- Perhaps a team player (supportive)
- Perhaps a connection to a Car? (vehicles used in recent clue)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blonde] +
He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground.

He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead.

With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown.

He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot.

Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look.

"Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building.

They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground.
Traits
- Catches opponents off gaurd
- Very physical, gets up close to opponents

+ Show Spoiler [King Brown Snake] +
King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again.

New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there. New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself

King Brown Snake grabbed Caller's legs and he fell over after he lost his balance. Caller got a leg free and kicked off the maddened King Brown Snake but wasn't in the clear yet.
Traits
- Thematic event of being pushed out of the way
(- Possible theme of meeting faces)

+ Show Spoiler [Cottonmouth] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm.

NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.

He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him.

Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104
Traits
- Throws sharp objects (knives/nails)
- Delays killing for a long time
- Notice the repetition of numbers;
2-4-3-3-5-6-1
BREAKTHROUGH: Sum of numbers mentioned on each night = 12, 12 is the magic number people find me that number!
UPDATE: L = 12th letter

+ Show Spoiler [Snake Charmer] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door.

Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.
Traits
- Uses swords
(- Possible kill bill reference)
(- Not present in opening night)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr White] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door.

He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.

Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look.

"I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building.

But just as soon as he did Mr. White smashed another pipe laying around in the back of xDark.Carnivalx's head. Another couple blows and xDark.Carnivalx was dead.
Traits
- Brutally attacks heads

+ Show Spoiler [The Wolf] +
The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head.

The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later.

He met gaze with The Wolf who was carrying some more debris from the building. Caller rolled to his right trying to dodge an attack from The Wolf but wasn't fast enough and took a vicious blow to the chest. He rolled to the side and started searching around for a weapon of his own as he jumped up from the ground.
Traits
- Lack of a theme at the moment

+ Show Spoiler [Black Mamba] +
Yogurt had thrown a rock that struck Black Mamba in the face with much ease.

Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help.

Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off.

Black Mamba was a bit alarmed and tried to quiet the man, permanently, but ended up just bruising his face from stomping his foot around.
Traits
- Uses his legs to kill
- Recurring theme of bruised faces

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Brown] +
As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring.

Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.
Traits
- Possibly yells alot
-> Thematic talking
- Armed with weapons, used his fists however

+ Show Spoiler [Taipan Snake] +
He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time.

They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device

Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.

Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. Taipan Snake walked up slowly and with a strange device fired out a direct current of electricity which proceeded to fry every inch of Empyrean.
Traits
- Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons)
-> Used broken glass recently
-> Used a taser like device
- Electronics connection
-> Thematic disabling of electronics
-> Thematic use of electricity (DC?)

This mafia was d.arkive

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Red] +
Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black.

Dinmsab has just put away Mandalor's file and was reviewing the clues from the previous crime scene this evening when he heard something smack his window. He stood up to investigate and peered outside to see a man hurling matter at the side of his house from the ground. The man beckoned him to come out but after inspecting his window he promptly gave him the finger and instead went to call the police.

Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. Mr. Red charged toward Dinmsab at the same time Dinmsab let go of the door and started running out the garage. Dinsamb smashed into Mr. Red and knocked him off guard but almost lost balance himself. As he began picking up speed he heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him.

He would have made it free but Mr. Red threw something on the ground ahead of him and he slipped on it and landed face first onto the ground. Mr. Red pounced on his back and started smashing his legs with a broken piece of rebar. Lenwe spun around and Mr. Red lost his balance and fell to the ground.
Traits
- Thematic event of Mr Red losing his balance and falling down
--- Very strong theme

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Black] +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now.

Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life.
Traits
- Very Strong
- Fits a bouncer image
- Brutal

+ Show Spoiler [Enigma] +
Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"

The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can".

Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground.
Traits
- Righteous
- Eager to to what he sees is right
--- Perhaps the clue changing relates to actions in the thread

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Pink] +
"Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans.

Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock.

He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after

OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.
Traits
- Quiet, well composed
- Sadistic, violent
- Able fighter
-> Eager to fight
(- Potentially one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blue] +
Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out.
Traits
- Concerned with who will be mayor
- Last word

This mafia was Mandalor

+ Show Spoiler [Copperhead] +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape.
Traits
- Has an accent (possibly southern USA)
- Likes to torment/taunt his victims

+ Show Spoiler [California Mountain Snake] +
the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake.

He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead.
Traits
- Respectful
- Accurate to an insane degree
(- Possibly asian)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Orange] +
But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut.

Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house.

Meta had saw them and was running towards Mr. Orange and Black Mamba. "Why aren't you calling for help" asked Meta as he reached them. Mr. Orange shrugged and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help.

Mr. Orange finally put an end to his bellows and shot Meta in the head, ending his life.
Traits
- Recurring idea of being unable to call for help
--- This could be a pivotal clue

Total mafia count: 17
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-10 13:15:15
April 10 2008 13:13 GMT
#4003
Basically, if you want to gain some reputation try to find profiles to fit Mr Orange and Mr Red's patterns. I have a number of suspects for each but i want to see how the town analysing things so i know the town won't be lost if i get killed

Also, Cottonmouth = 12, its the recurring number
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Last Edited: 2008-04-10 13:32:56
April 10 2008 13:32 GMT
#4007
L, good game sir

nice find pink
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Last Edited: 2008-04-10 13:40:14
April 10 2008 13:38 GMT
#4011
as long as i am alive i dont want to see anymore lynchings around people without any substantial evidence to back it up. We're at a stage where we have a TON of information to go on, so there is no reason we shouldn't be using it.

If you think araav is mafia - great - prove it

EDIT: @ pink, i'll check it
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 10 2008 13:47 GMT
#4014

+ Show Spoiler [Enigma] +
Appearance 1
Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"

Appearance 2
The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can".

Appearance 3
Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground.
Traits
- Righteous
- Eager to to what he sees is right

Truth be told enigma is a real enigma for me as there seems to be no common theme. But Siefu's quote is a perfect match for appearance 1 and 3.

"No more of this bullshit protection" - implies that Enigma was a bodyguard type role but really was mafia

The the note clue from the last appearance also reinforces this

However, appearance two is still eluding me... although that quote of his loosely applies...

i'll give Siefu a 80% chance of being mafia
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-10 14:00:16
April 10 2008 13:53 GMT
#4016
hence loosely applies.. its enough to get some searches going on these people though
+ Show Spoiler [Mandalor lynch] +
List:Mandalor - 10 mafia, have removed dead
ShaLLoW[baY]
qrs
clazziquai
ahrara_
Falcynn
ZBiR
unsoundlogic
BWdero
GeneralStan
Scorch
nemY
MidnightGladius
decafchicken
L
suresh0t
randombum
Lysithea
Artanis[Xp]
Ninja4ever.
Naib
SoleSteeler
RtS)Night[Mare
Jimtudor
GranDim
Alethios
0cz3c
Last Romantic
zeks
Unforgiven_ve
Energies
iNfuNdiBuLuM
SoMuchBetter
Camlito
fanatacist
ieatkids5
SonuvBob
Siefu
butidigress

Theres also people like SMB, SoleSteeler, MidnightGladius and suresh0t which are all suspects
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Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-10 14:21:39
April 10 2008 14:19 GMT
#4018
I'd also like to propose that smurfingchobo is mafia, consider that and tell me what you think
Also consider Siefu as Joe
Also, investigate SoMuchBetter and LoStYouRSkiLLS
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 11 2008 03:20 GMT
#4126
People, fuck the lists.

They are a great aid but we shouldn't be pushing them any further.

Rather than take a guess and go "OH EASY 1/3 CHANCE = INSTA WIN" sit back, check the players, and see what the clues spell out.

Rational arguments based on clues are hard to deny, argue or even counter.

On that note L is mafioso. Yes Cottonmouth threw 15 knives, but the important thing how the clues are worded. Why say that he threw 3 knives into each of his legs and 3 into his back? Why is it worded so? Summing the numbers stated you get 12 and given the lack of evidence pertaining to L this is a damming clue against him. This clue is very much alike to Queasy and Sidewinder and should not be lightly dismissed simply.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 11 2008 03:31 GMT
#4128
Fair enough, but for now my suspicions are sufficiently high to be thinking L.

In your case you have the descending numbers 15, 14, next comes 13 - find be a profile which has descending numbers from 15 and ill change my mind.

For now then (i suppose) look at Siefu (who's been neglected)
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 11 2008 03:59 GMT
#4134
+ Show Spoiler [quotes] +
On April 11 2008 12:51 LTT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2008 12:31 Plexa wrote:
Fair enough, but for now my suspicions are sufficiently high to be thinking L.

In your case you have the descending numbers 15, 14, next comes 13 - find be a profile which has descending numbers from 15 and ill change my mind.

For now then (i suppose) look at Siefu (who's been neglected)


Now I'm confused. None of the numbers add up to 12 unless you start making a complicated set of rules which eliminates the evidence against L but he is still your leading suspect until we find evidence for a clue that might not be a clue?

As I said in my PM, we have to be wary of holding grudge suspisions and forcing evidence to fit those descriptions. Last game, I exchanged PMs with SonuvBob trying to figure out who was mafia. During the game, Live2Win used his mod powers to edit another player's post. That pissed me off so I was convinced that we has mafia. Every day I'd get more and more upset at the town for missing painfully obvious clues. I was convinced he was lying about being a medic. It turns out, he wasn't. If you start with a suspect who you are sure is mafia, you are sure to find "evidence" in all those words from Chuiu and the thousands of posts in this thread.

If we are going to play based on clues and evidence, which seems to be our best shot at this point, we need to keep the suspicion proportionate to the evidence. When the evidence disappears, our suspicions should diminish proportionately. What you are currently doing doesn't seem to be different from Ace deciding to lynch qrs because he is upset with him. It can't come from anger and then lead to evidence.

You have been the best at deciphering clues thus far so we need you in top form to keep seeing red text on day and night posts. Even if L, or qrs, turns out to be mafia, we've made the wrong move if there are any better suspects with evidence behind them. Over the long run, we are going to die if we play like this.
100% agree, while my suspicions remain high for L (along with SMB, clazziquai, smurfingchobo and a few more) i'm not going to push him any further. As pointed out, there are far better clues to go on and we really need to get two mafia tonight.
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 11 2008 04:06 GMT
#4137
Strong mafia themes

Mr Pink
- Silent and Sadistic

Mr Red
- Continually fall over

King Brown Snake
- Gets pushed out of the way

Mr Orange
- Recurring theme of being unable to call for help

Black Mamba
- Recurring theme of bruised faces

Mr Blonde
- Always catches victims off guard/by surprise
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-11 04:49:08
April 11 2008 04:20 GMT
#4141
lets do some motherfucking analysis on those 6 okay

Alventenie
Name: No meaning
Signature: None
Profile: None
Picture: None

Therefore unlikely to be mafia

Imderek
Name: He's derek -.-;
Profile: "For thou dost know, O Damon dear,
This realm dismantled was
Of Jove himself; and now reigns here
A very, very--pajock."

- Hamlet
Signature: keke
Picture: none

Clues are very few - would be working off perhaps the Hamlet quote (swordfights? xD). Seeing as he was mafioso last game, i doubt chuiu would have many more clues to link to him thus low probability of mafia.

Evilmonkey
Name: Could link to agility and sadism. Looking for mobility ala a monkey with traits of sadistic deaths
Signature: It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to give them the finger.
Picture: Hydralisk
Profile: None

Strongest clues from here are from his name. We'd be looking for the things i laid out above. Possibly some clues relating to rudeness as an alternative trait. As we haven't seen much of rudeness the clues would be from his name - which leads me to rank him highly as a mafia suspect.

Fusionsdf
Name: no idea, unlikely to be clue related anyway
Signature: ☭ 1 word: awrsdrsom//Lim Ji Hye                      !
Picture: None
Profile: Ascii art of leonidas and pic of some hot chick

Clues from this could possibly be indecipherability. But more likely to be linked to his picture of Leonidas. Leonidas is pure muscle, pure strength. With a number of strength based characters roaming around (check out Mr Black for instance) it makes me think that fusion ranks highly as a mafia suspect. However, fusion sent me a detailed list on clues which i doubt a mafia would do

Useless
Name: self explanatory
Picture: none
Profile: none
Signature: Favorite book: Organic Chemistry

Clues here would be pertaining to either his sig or name. His sig is science related (no clues) while his ID has many interesting links. Let's look at King Brown Snake - he has a thematic problem of being pushed aside, he is rather useless. This is perhaps a strong clue and hence high chance of mafia.

aznvaliance
Name: asian valiance - valiance;
The qualities of a hero or heroine; exceptional or heroic courage when facing danger (especially in battle)
Picture: none
Profile: "How can there be any meaning in the memory of such a being? What I have shown you is reality. What you remember, that is the illusion."
—Sephiroth

"Whoever wins, the battle does not end. The loser is set free from the battlefield, while the winner must remain there. And the survivor will live out his life as the warrior until the day he dies." -Big Boss aka Naked Snake
Signature: Isnt that worth fighting for? Isnt that worth dying for? - Morpheus

Wow, lots of stuff to work with here. His name suggests leadership and being a hero (similar to eddie). His quotes all pertain to that similar theme. Very complicated character to pin down imo.

So, in in conclusion;
Not mafia: imderek, alventenie
Medium mafia: useless, fusionsdf
High mafia: aznvaliance, evilmonkey

Im not confident enough in any of them however. Perhaps more people can help out
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 11 2008 04:50 GMT
#4149
i hereby give my full support behind lynching evilmonkey (for reasons camlito pointed out to me and should do int he near future) and aznvalaince

Aznvaliance = eddie
evilmonkey = mr blonde
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 11 2008 04:56 GMT
#4150
+ Show Spoiler [eddie] +
Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner".

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help.

Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat.

As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him Frenh_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.


Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help"

Lenwe snatched up the piece of rebar and Mr. Red retreated to the new threat he posed. Eddie wasn't afraid to take on Lenwe, however, and charged strait at him grabbing the steel bar right out of his hand and knocking him to the ground with it. A few well placed blows and Lenwe was dead as well.
Traits
- Seems to be the leader of the group
- No preferred method of killing (darts/glass, steel bar and kicking so far)
- Seems to be very strong

Here we go....

The clue persist to Asian Valiance's name. It fits the characterisation of a leader, one eager to fight and one thats not afraid (of lenwe). Definition, valiance means "The qualities of a hero or heroine; exceptional or heroic courage when facing danger (especially in battle)".
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 11 2008 05:05 GMT
#4158
On April 11 2008 14:01 fusionsdf wrote:
to me, the fact that he

a) got a lucky kick
b) got a lucky shot on yogurt

means we should look for luck as a clue for eddie
the fact that Yogurt was our mad hatter and characterised as a good fighter means the luck clues are someone less strong

secondly
thats was o-n-e night not all nights. Hence luck has very very little to do with eddie and the luck can be dismissed as filler
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 11 2008 05:07 GMT
#4160
On April 11 2008 14:03 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.


and those are the kinds of quotes Im pointing to.

Not a single person here can say that "Solemn but seeing a promising future" isnt a clue.

Things like that are what we should be looking at
Awesome sdf now link it to a mafia, ill help you, it links to The Wolf and Taipan. Not eddie, nor joe. Its plot filler.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 11 2008 05:08 GMT
#4162
On April 11 2008 14:07 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2008 14:05 Plexa wrote:
On April 11 2008 14:01 fusionsdf wrote:
to me, the fact that he

a) got a lucky kick
b) got a lucky shot on yogurt

means we should look for luck as a clue for eddie
the fact that Yogurt was our mad hatter and characterised as a good fighter means the luck clues are someone less strong

secondly
thats was o-n-e night not all nights. Hence luck has very very little to do with eddie and the luck can be dismissed as filler



how so? Its not like shooting someone in the face on a lucky shot is valiant

You are starting with suspects, and trying to link clues to them. And thats a mistake.

and luck is not a filler. If you think it is, I highly suggest you look at the game one wrap up
I've seen the game one wrap up and there were PERSISTENT THEMES which linked to mafia. Not strange one offs - those turned out to be red herrings
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 11 2008 05:12 GMT
#4164
On April 11 2008 14:09 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2008 14:07 Plexa wrote:
On April 11 2008 14:03 fusionsdf wrote:

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.


and those are the kinds of quotes Im pointing to.

Not a single person here can say that "Solemn but seeing a promising future" isnt a clue.

Things like that are what we should be looking at
Awesome sdf now link it to a mafia, ill help you, it links to The Wolf and Taipan. Not eddie, nor joe. Its plot filler.


no
its not
I'll fucking sig bet you

at the end of the game
chuiu will reveal it

and its going to read out

"Solemn(name1) but seeing a promising future(name2)"

Those are clues and traits we should look for, no matter which particular mafia it links too, instead of following half baked theories
Ok sig betted. However, if it turns out that those clue pertain to The Wolf (which imo they do) then i win the bet.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 11 2008 05:18 GMT
#4169
On April 11 2008 14:13 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2008 14:08 Plexa wrote:
On April 11 2008 14:07 fusionsdf wrote:
On April 11 2008 14:05 Plexa wrote:
On April 11 2008 14:01 fusionsdf wrote:
to me, the fact that he

a) got a lucky kick
b) got a lucky shot on yogurt

means we should look for luck as a clue for eddie
the fact that Yogurt was our mad hatter and characterised as a good fighter means the luck clues are someone less strong

secondly
thats was o-n-e night not all nights. Hence luck has very very little to do with eddie and the luck can be dismissed as filler



how so? Its not like shooting someone in the face on a lucky shot is valiant

You are starting with suspects, and trying to link clues to them. And thats a mistake.

and luck is not a filler. If you think it is, I highly suggest you look at the game one wrap up
I've seen the game one wrap up and there were PERSISTENT THEMES which linked to mafia. Not strange one offs - those turned out to be red herrings


Yeah

and it just happens to link eddie with luck twice
and we have spare sentences like:
[1,2]Chuiu and DapperDan were betrayed by their own comrades, and now their ||lives hanged on the balance.||

and you want to throw it away for a valiant thing thats contradicted by your own quote. I really like how you try to argue panicking and shooting someone is valiant. No. Fucking. Sense.

Just so you can steer it to suspects youve already chosen, when you have less than a 5% of finding a mafia among those 6.
Wow wtf fusion? Huge oversight on your behalf...

There is a 1/6% chance of one of those people being mafia. I took the names from the list where there are KNOWN MAFIA and analysed them because everyone is so hung up over these lists.

If you want to link eddie to luck, be my guest. imo he very well could be Lostyourskills (as he was lucky on night two and now is growing more habitual) but cmon fusion, offer SOME analysis insted of half baked quasi-conjecture. "WOW THERE IS LUCK IN DAY 2 OMG" doesn't get us anywhere, take it that step further - how does it link to someone? etcetcetc

The fact that eddie "half-panicked" and not "panicked" is enough to create doubt around your attack i think. Furthermore, it fits the plotline that they need to his yogurt some time so he can flip the switch.
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April 11 2008 05:22 GMT
#4172
On April 11 2008 14:17 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
I've already pleaded my innocence pages and pages ago (around 187?). If you're not going to listen and not see how I'm trying to actually TRY to nail red, not my problem.

As for now, since I'm having fingers pointed in my direction, and I know myself to be green, it's very suspicious in my own mind that Plexa is red.
It's better for townies to come out and try reason some arguments against various people and have them debated around and get dialouge going than for everyone to stay silent. It moves the town forward, and we can get somewhere. Rather than have a boring non-eventful mafia game.

This is what i've done throughout the game, i've changed my suspects millions of times. Infact, i'm leaning towards Lostyourskills due to his quote. Atfirst he was lucky, now it is habitual skill
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Last Edited: 2008-04-11 05:26:53
April 11 2008 05:24 GMT
#4177
On April 11 2008 14:22 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2008 14:18 Plexa wrote:
On April 11 2008 14:13 fusionsdf wrote:
On April 11 2008 14:08 Plexa wrote:
On April 11 2008 14:07 fusionsdf wrote:
On April 11 2008 14:05 Plexa wrote:
On April 11 2008 14:01 fusionsdf wrote:
to me, the fact that he

a) got a lucky kick
b) got a lucky shot on yogurt

means we should look for luck as a clue for eddie
the fact that Yogurt was our mad hatter and characterised as a good fighter means the luck clues are someone less strong

secondly
thats was o-n-e night not all nights. Hence luck has very very little to do with eddie and the luck can be dismissed as filler



how so? Its not like shooting someone in the face on a lucky shot is valiant

You are starting with suspects, and trying to link clues to them. And thats a mistake.

and luck is not a filler. If you think it is, I highly suggest you look at the game one wrap up
I've seen the game one wrap up and there were PERSISTENT THEMES which linked to mafia. Not strange one offs - those turned out to be red herrings


Yeah

and it just happens to link eddie with luck twice
and we have spare sentences like:
[1,2]Chuiu and DapperDan were betrayed by their own comrades, and now their ||lives hanged on the balance.||

and you want to throw it away for a valiant thing thats contradicted by your own quote. I really like how you try to argue panicking and shooting someone is valiant. No. Fucking. Sense.

Just so you can steer it to suspects youve already chosen, when you have less than a 5% of finding a mafia among those 6.
Wow wtf fusion? Huge oversight on your behalf...

There is a 1/6% chance of one of those people being mafia. I took the names from the list where there are KNOWN MAFIA and analysed them because everyone is so hung up over these lists.

If you want to link eddie to luck, be my guest. imo he very well could be Lostyourskills (as he was lucky on night two and now is growing more habitual) but cmon fusion, offer SOME analysis insted of half baked quasi-conjecture. "WOW THERE IS LUCK IN DAY 2 OMG" doesn't get us anywhere, take it that step further - how does it link to someone? etcetcetc

The fact that eddie "half-panicked" and not "panicked" is enough to create doubt around your attack i think. Furthermore, it fits the plotline that they need to his yogurt some time so he can flip the switch.


he half-panicked and not full-panicked so now he is valiant?
Looking at a macroscopic picture of eddie rather than a microscopic.

You've always analysed based on the microscope, great, more power to you. I generally analyse on the macroscope and get a general picture. So far im 2-1 in my "100% mafia" lists; i'm yet to see anything from you yet



Let's start right now.

One of my initial suspects for eddie was lostyourskills after day 1 (chuiu had lost his mayoral skills). Now, however, it seems that eddies luck has turned into skill ala his quote. your opinion please?
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April 11 2008 05:38 GMT
#4182
ok, seeing as you can comprehend the statistiscs

If aznvaliance is mafia then what does that mean?
IF evilmonkey is mafia then what does that mean?
Assuming you, imderek and alventenie are innocent what does that mean?
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April 11 2008 05:49 GMT
#4191
ok
WITHDRAW VOTES FROM AZNVALIANCE

today we should be voting seifu + evilmonkey unless someone has any objections?
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April 11 2008 06:52 GMT
#4207
On April 11 2008 15:27 Ace wrote:
Hotzot must have just changed then.

Plexa should be changing soon.
yes ive just been caught up in the discussion of various points with people
changing now
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April 11 2008 07:49 GMT
#4213
Given the lull in mafia activity, now is a good time to repost this

How to catch Mafia 101
By Plexa
Teamliquid Final Edits


When pinning mafia to clues there a number of factors one must consider;

Clues take a single point from a player and extrapolate it out into a thematic idea.
Example one; d.arkive had his profile picture linking to "DC" and the mysterious device. That single image was extrapolated into a thematic use of electricity and a recurring device. One feature -> Mafia theme
Example two; Queasy had no information in his profile at all, thus the only clue could come from his name - Queasy. By definition Queasy means feeling sick. This definition was extrapolated into a thematic "sickly appearance" of sidewinder. One feature -> Mafia theme
Example three; Links aren't always clearcut, Quesidilla from Mafia 1 had a in his profile picture a sign saying "Real men proxy". This quote was extrapolated into the thematic strength/close quarters engagements with his character in mafia one - a hard clue but still; One feature -> Mafia theme

Players with many connections to a possible clue are not mafia.
This overlaps with point one, but it really needs to be emphasized.
Example 1; Ghar had many clues pertaining to him (e.g the Mayoral campaign, various clue references) and there was a really strong case for him being mafia. However, as the clues weren't pertaining to a single defining feature of him - he was innocent and we lynched him.
Example 2; Shadowdrgn had a number of references/dual meanings of his name and profile which linked nicely to Mr Blonde. However there was simply too stronger connection between the two - and sadly (as we learned) he too turned out to be town.
Its important to remember this as it allows many people to be instantly discarded from being Mafia

Never mix traits up between mafia
Unlike the first game, these clues are pertain to one mafia only. For instance the thematic idea of gazes meeting (before day 4) was linked to two different mafia therefore is NOT a thematic connection to a mafia; merely a coincidence.

Mafia codenames have no relevance to the player.
The names are derived from various Tarentino movies and hence purely placeholders. This is important when you look at characters like Mr Pink in relation to HeRoS)PiNK and the like who have pink in their name. The connection is purely fictitious therefore avoid it at all times.


Great, now we have a basic understanding of how these clues work, so how do we apply them? There are two methods, i identified Queasy using one, and d.arkive using the other so both are valid methods.

Take a player, analyse his profile for possible themes that could arise
This is how i caught d.arkive. I saw his profile and checked out his varying bits of information. Keeping in mind a vague idea of Mafia traits (e.g. Taipan Snakes use of "direct current") his picture eventually clicked with me. DC, direct current. Upon investigating the connection further - everything could be extrapolated from the picture; mafia identified

Take a mafia role, analyse the traits against various profiles
This is how i caught Queasy. Thinking about Sidewinder i knew that there would be a clue linking to sickness. After checking out a number of profiles i came to the conclusion that the most relevant clue to sickness was indeed Queasy - and hence it transpired that he was sidewinder.

Both of these methods are suited for particular situations. I'll do an example, analysing two confirmed innocent players - myself and TranceStorm. I will analyse myself using method one, and trancestorm using method two with the mafia Taipan Snake.

Plexa
Name: No meaning what so ever, no definitions, no abstract meanings no nothing. (origins actually come from the number "Googalplex" taking the plex at the end and adding an A, but anyone who gets that is a freak)
Signature: Clues possibly deriving from being a fan of someone, admiration perhaps? Progamer references are unlikely to be clues thus can be disregarded. Also perhaps a clue linking to the blogs - perhaps writing utencils?
Profile: Picture is of Plexa standing in from of the Tan Tien Buddha in Hong Kong thus perhaps some religious connection or perhaps a connection to asia

Rationalisation
Using the absolute clue hypothesis (see Clue analysis 201) clues must pertain to the entire section of the profile. Thus, as the signature has two very different focii a combination of fanboyism and blogging has no connections to any of the mafia profiles. Similarly when analyzing the picture clue we can reject any asian connections as there are far too many clues like that about hence we should focus on finding a religious theme - which is absent from mafia.

Hence Plexa is innocent.

TranceStorm

+ Show Spoiler [Taipan Snake] +
He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time.

They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device

Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.

Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. Taipan Snake walked up slowly and with a strange device fired out a direct current of electricity which proceeded to fry every inch of Empyrean.
Traits
- Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons)
-> Used broken glass recently
-> Used a taser like device
- Electronics connection
-> Thematic disabling of electronics
-> Thematic use of electricity (DC?)

When we glance over at TranceStorm profile and try to match it to the mafia we get;
Name: You have an interesting juxtaposition of tranquility against ferocity thus you would expect some kind of explosive mafia, which is calm then erupts in a quick flurry. The alternative is to have links to a Storm - which only somewhat applies
Signature: Blank
Profile: Blank

As we are looking for an Electricity connection, the Storm (and hence ID) don't really apply to this aspect of Taipan. Also, the juxtaposition of the name is also lacking from Taipan - hence it is fairly safe to assume that TranceStorm is not Taipan Snake and hence Trancestorm is not mafia.



Well there you have it, happy analysing! I encourage anyone and everyone to start analysing clues for yourself. It's really easy, and with this outline the town should be hitting mafia in no time. Expect to see an updated list of profiles very shortly!!
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Last Edited: 2008-04-11 08:00:52
April 11 2008 08:00 GMT
#4215
Lysithea you profile picture is so cool where did you get it from

oh wow you stole my 5200th post haha
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April 11 2008 08:18 GMT
#4217
it doesn't change anything, ~opz~ is unlikely to be mafia anyway
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April 11 2008 08:33 GMT
#4221
On April 11 2008 17:30 Bockit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2008 16:49 Plexa wrote:
As we are looking for an Electricity connection, the Storm (and hence ID) don't really apply to this aspect of Taipan. Also, the juxtaposition of the name is also lacking from Taipan - hence it is fairly safe to assume that TranceStorm is not Taipan Snake and hence Trancestorm is not mafia.


While I agree with pretty much all your methodology I don't think you can make the claim "because the juxtaposition doesn't exist then it increases his chance of not being mafia" and for proof I bring quesadilla, whose *only* connection to the clues was his signature, his name wasn't relevant but it was still him. Fair enough it turned out TranceStorm was townie, and the rest of his stuff doesn't match up as well as it seems people were thinking, as you've pointed out. I'm just trying to avoid us falling into the trap of saying "This clue fits X but Y doesn't fit therefore it can't be him" when we've seen that this can be the case.

But yeah I agree with pretty much everything else you've been saying. Let's see some red by nightfall.

fair enough, i would argue that the juxtaposition isn't a central argument but is something which increases the chance of him being innocent. But the clue should match pretty seamlessly to one particular profile trait of the mafia
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April 12 2008 09:48 GMT
#4282
From here what we do is think;
  • Which mafia was evilmonkey, i think he was mr blonde but i might be wrong
  • Ace and co are patching the leak in the circle of trust so that should be covered
  • We look at the next set of clues and move from there

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April 12 2008 10:01 GMT
#4285
my little circle of detectives are cutting down that list as best we can - we hope to be able to squeeze the list to isolate the mafia in the list the best
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April 12 2008 10:29 GMT
#4289
While we're killing time...

What's everyones opinion on Lostyourskills?
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April 13 2008 03:47 GMT
#4361
I'm rather out of "mafia" at the moment - celebrating my two year anniversary this weekend ^^ but the analysis you're doing looks really good.

EvilMonkey is Mr Blonde, check out the second night "swooped down" - seeing as we intially pinned this trait to Shadowdrgn as the dragon could swoop - the monkey swooping fits perfectly. Mr Blonde perfectly fits EvilMonkey's name (just check the clues yourself, i know you're capable ^^) and we can safely assume thats who he is.

As a side note for everyone, Chuiu seems to love pinning mafia to names - and that makes our lives quite easy. So far we've got evilmonkey and queasy on their name connections. This should be our first port of call when analysing clues in the future (imo), if you can pin clues to a name then bring it up and we just need to check if it fits (like in the L situation !) and then we can proceed to act on it
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April 13 2008 04:00 GMT
#4365
I feel that the spoinka clue is a little too streched, but not enough to disregard it entirely - let me do a quick check of names
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April 13 2008 04:08 GMT
#4370
On April 13 2008 13:05 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2008 13:00 Plexa wrote:
I feel that the spoinka clue is a little too streched, but not enough to disregard it entirely - let me do a quick check of names

Well im just throwing stuff that could help if i get killed
And thats great

I can't see any obvious name connections to Mr Red... however the name DamageControl stuck out at me =/ i don't know why
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April 13 2008 04:46 GMT
#4374
On April 13 2008 13:08 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2008 11:25 Camlito wrote:
[3,31]Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack.

Do clues like this still work in this game? (this clue relates to midnightgladius).


we dont know.

There are two camps.

One says that all non mafia sentences are filler, and we should only look at clues and traits that are linked to specific mafia.

The other says that, looking at the last mafia game, clues are to be found even in "extra" sentences, and we should look for a repeat of clues, in the form of extraneous and out of place words, and not just at specific mafia behaviour.
And there is a third camp which suggests the two camps are not mutually inclusive
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April 13 2008 05:04 GMT
#4376
*doh* fail

scratch that third camp
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April 13 2008 11:24 GMT
#4383
oh hey MTF is not necessarily innocent anymore!
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April 13 2008 13:47 GMT
#4385
If i die can you guys hold a state funeral?
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April 13 2008 13:54 GMT
#4386
by the way, my team of expert detectives have uncovered a interesting fact

Either MidnightGladius is Mafia
or MTF is mafia
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April 13 2008 15:40 GMT
#4389
On April 14 2008 00:12 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
This thread has gotten so much better over the past few days. No more useless spam like before
unless you call my various fights with people like fusionsdf spam

On a more serious note, here are my suspects:
---- HIGH----
SoMuchBetter - Californian Mountain Snake
Jimtudor - Mr Red
Lysithea - Moon clue



---MEDIUM------
nemY - Faces meeting
Naib - Enigma/Joe (name translates as Viceroy)
zeks - quote
ieatkids5
SoleSteeler
GeneralStan
suresh0t
Ninja4ever.
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Last Edited: 2008-04-13 16:49:15
April 13 2008 16:46 GMT
#4400
+ Show Spoiler +
He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground.

He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead.

With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown.

He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot.

Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look.

"Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building.

They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground.
I don't think the dt connection is as strong but feel free to prove me wrong

On April 14 2008 01:43 BlindAlbino wrote:
plexa, I hope you realize that red moon clue was for evilmonkey. caller pointed it out a while back.
evilmonkey birthday was on the same day as the last red moon. surely no coincidence.
Note to self, check who posted the clue
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April 13 2008 16:55 GMT
#4402
why is that blindalbino?
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April 13 2008 17:21 GMT
#4405
you don't think queasy was too obvious?
nor d.arkive?
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April 14 2008 02:24 GMT
#4431
i dont think it necessary for me to say anything more before the day post
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Last Edited: 2008-04-14 05:38:36
April 14 2008 05:29 GMT
#4437
Nice catch MTF

just goes to show that i need to update that list pretty badly after the day post
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April 14 2008 06:24 GMT
#4445
On April 14 2008 15:23 Ace wrote:
where's that from Camilto?
Thats from Californian Mountain Snake's clues
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April 14 2008 06:37 GMT
#4448
Traits are inaccurate but all the clues are here

+ Show Spoiler [eddie] +
Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner".

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help.

Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat.

As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him Frenh_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.


Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help"

Lenwe snatched up the piece of rebar and Mr. Red retreated to the new threat he posed. Eddie wasn't afraid to take on Lenwe, however, and charged strait at him grabbing the steel bar right out of his hand and knocking him to the ground with it. A few well placed blows and Lenwe was dead as well.
Traits
- Seems to be the leader of the group
- No preferred method of killing (darts/glass, steel bar and kicking so far)
- Seems to be very strong

+ Show Spoiler [sidewinder] +
Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black.

Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after.

Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust.

In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. He handed Sidewinder a drug to help him recover and started back to his van but Sidewinder reached into his coat pocket and pulled out a note. "LucasWoJ" was written on it and he quickly chased him and tackled him to the ground. LucasWoJ tried to fight back but was overwhelmed by the stench on the mans coat and became sick all over the sidewalk while Sidewinder was beating him. He recovered from being sick and pulled an anesthetic out of his pocket and stabbed Sidewinder with it, putting him to sleep. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ.
Traits
- Sickly appearance
-> recurring theme of sickness
-> Sickness might be a result of heavy drinking (clue)
- Periods of extreme skill and extreme unease (ie alternating in talent)
(- One of four horsemen of the apocalypse?)

This mafia was Queasy

+ Show Spoiler [Joe] +
"Just let us go, you can run things however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there.

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you".
Traits
- Used a gun to kill LucasWoJ
- Perhaps a team player (supportive)
- Perhaps a connection to a Car? (vehicles used in recent clue)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blonde] +
He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground.

He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead.

With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown.

He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot.

Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look.

"Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building.

They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground.
Traits
- Catches opponents off gaurd
- Very physical, gets up close to opponents

+ Show Spoiler [King Brown Snake] +
King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again.

New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there. New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself

King Brown Snake grabbed Caller's legs and he fell over after he lost his balance. Caller got a leg free and kicked off the maddened King Brown Snake but wasn't in the clear yet.
Traits
- Thematic event of being pushed out of the way
(- Possible theme of meeting faces)

+ Show Spoiler [Cottonmouth] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm.

NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.

He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him.

Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104
Traits
- Throws sharp objects (knives/nails)
- Delays killing for a long time
- Notice the repetition of numbers;
2-4-3-3-5-6-1

+ Show Spoiler [Snake Charmer] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door.

Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.
Traits
- Uses swords
(- Possible kill bill reference)
(- Not present in opening night)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr White] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door.

He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.

Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look.

"I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building.

But just as soon as he did Mr. White smashed another pipe laying around in the back of xDark.Carnivalx's head. Another couple blows and xDark.Carnivalx was dead.
Traits
- Brutally attacks heads

+ Show Spoiler [The Wolf] +
The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head.

The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later.

He met gaze with The Wolf who was carrying some more debris from the building. Caller rolled to his right trying to dodge an attack from The Wolf but wasn't fast enough and took a vicious blow to the chest. He rolled to the side and started searching around for a weapon of his own as he jumped up from the ground.
Traits
- Lack of a theme at the moment

+ Show Spoiler [Black Mamba] +
Yogurt had thrown a rock that struck Black Mamba in the face with much ease.

Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help.

Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off.

Black Mamba was a bit alarmed and tried to quiet the man, permanently, but ended up just bruising his face from stomping his foot around.
Traits
- Uses his legs to kill
- Recurring theme of bruised faces

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Brown] +
As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring.

Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.
Traits
- Possibly yells alot
-> Thematic talking
- Armed with weapons, used his fists however

+ Show Spoiler [Taipan Snake] +
He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time.

They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device

Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.

Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. Taipan Snake walked up slowly and with a strange device fired out a direct current of electricity which proceeded to fry every inch of Empyrean.
Traits
- Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons)
-> Used broken glass recently
-> Used a taser like device
- Electronics connection
-> Thematic disabling of electronics
-> Thematic use of electricity (DC?)

This mafia was d.arkive

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Red] +
Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black.

Dinmsab has just put away Mandalor's file and was reviewing the clues from the previous crime scene this evening when he heard something smack his window. He stood up to investigate and peered outside to see a man hurling matter at the side of his house from the ground. The man beckoned him to come out but after inspecting his window he promptly gave him the finger and instead went to call the police.

Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. Mr. Red charged toward Dinmsab at the same time Dinmsab let go of the door and started running out the garage. Dinsamb smashed into Mr. Red and knocked him off guard but almost lost balance himself. As he began picking up speed he heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him.

He would have made it free but Mr. Red threw something on the ground ahead of him and he slipped on it and landed face first onto the ground. Mr. Red pounced on his back and started smashing his legs with a broken piece of rebar. Lenwe spun around and Mr. Red lost his balance and fell to the ground.
Traits
- Thematic event of Mr Red losing his balance and falling down
--- Very strong theme

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Black] +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now.

Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life.
Traits
- Very Strong
- Fits a bouncer image
- Brutal

+ Show Spoiler [Enigma] +
Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"

The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can".

Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground.
Traits
- Righteous
- Eager to to what he sees is right
--- Perhaps the clue changing relates to actions in the thread

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Pink] +
"Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans.

Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock.

He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after

OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.
Traits
- Quiet, well composed
- Sadistic, violent
- Able fighter
-> Eager to fight
(- Potentially one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blue] +
Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out.
Traits
- Concerned with who will be mayor
- Last word

This mafia was Mandalor

+ Show Spoiler [Copperhead] +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape.
Traits
- Has an accent (possibly southern USA)
- Likes to torment/taunt his victims

+ Show Spoiler [California Mountain Snake] +
the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake.

He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead.
Traits
- Respectful
- Accurate to an insane degree
(- Possibly asian)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Orange] +
But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut.

Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house.

Meta had saw them and was running towards Mr. Orange and Black Mamba. "Why aren't you calling for help" asked Meta as he reached them. Mr. Orange shrugged and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help.

Mr. Orange finally put an end to his bellows and shot Meta in the head, ending his life.
Traits
- Recurring idea of being unable to call for help
--- This could be a pivotal clue

Total mafia count: 17
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 14 2008 07:38 GMT
#4453
Im going to throw this out there for debate, SpiritoftheTuna as a possible candidate for Mr Red; what do you think
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Last Edited: 2008-04-14 08:00:03
April 14 2008 07:54 GMT
#4456
Mr Pink is likely to be Kuja900
And JimTudor is very likely to be mafia
Agreed with Eddie as Lostyourskills, which i've thought since like day 2 haha

On April 14 2008 16:50 Ace wrote:
no idea how you came up with SoT as Mr.Red. What's the basis?

frustration i suppose?

Just thinking about substances that can be thrown and still be slippery and tinned tuna jumped right into my head
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 14 2008 08:17 GMT
#4459
On April 14 2008 17:15 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2008 16:54 Plexa wrote:
Mr Pink is likely to be Kuja900


Is it the narcissism thing that makes you think so?
pretty much, i just feel that the two characters are very similar ... although its been a while since ive played ffix
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Last Edited: 2008-04-14 09:09:42
April 14 2008 09:00 GMT
#4462
Yo MTF;

Day 2 = 42 (40+2)
Day 4 = 44 (40+4)

+ Show Spoiler +
As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring.

Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.
I can find stuff from the first day linking brown to a monkey (climbing UP to him, and indecipherable yells) and the second day you have stuff linking to evil.

Perhaps mr brown was EvilMonkey
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 14 2008 09:18 GMT
#4464
the second clue is much weaker, and hold very little relevance to the first section...

theoretically we should have clues for BlindAlbino being an albino as well? perhaps the easily bruised face?
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 14 2008 09:23 GMT
#4466
well then we need to think about names with two facets to them, and seem if they apply to the characters with changing traits (like thewolf)
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 14 2008 09:28 GMT
#4468
That or something which has something to do with two
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 14 2008 11:54 GMT
#4476
haha MTF is a machineeeee

I've been trying to crack Mr Red for daysssss well, ever since i cracked Taipan
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Last Edited: 2008-04-14 14:30:59
April 14 2008 14:30 GMT
#4482
actually nevermind
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 14 2008 14:41 GMT
#4484
list of blindalbino posts (<3 admin power)

+ Show Spoiler +
BlindAlbino April 14, 2008 04:41 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

see ace knows whats up.

BlindAlbino April 14, 2008 02:12 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

placeholder i explain one minute.

Ok for one, i dont think lostyourskills is pointed to the luck clues. think it is too obvious. but if you look at eti's quote: A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new


I think it could have a more subtle meaning and he could be eddie.
also the 3-0-7 clue but this one is less damning.

ieatkids : heros)pink already explained. pretty good.

BlindAlbino April 14, 2008 01:53 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

anyway, after looking through clue discussion, new biggest suspects are ieatkids5 and eit307. dont know about you guys but I am voting them for tomorrow if double lynch

BlindAlbino April 14, 2008 01:43 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

plexa, I hope you realize that red moon clue was for evilmonkey. caller pointed it out a while back.
evilmonkey birthday was on the same day as the last red moon. surely no coincidence.

BlindAlbino April 13, 2008 01:46 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

ah nice job guys, shame for siefu but he had lots of clue so dont know. Caller correct when he said red moon was evilmonkey, so gj to him way back.

not sure who I suspect anymore as most of my suspect are confirm innocent.

BlindAlbino April 11, 2008 21:41 Thread: Day 5 Votes Direct Link

By request...
change first vote evilmonkey
change second vote siefu

BlindAlbino April 11, 2008 21:40 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

just saw the news, changing my votes

BlindAlbino April 11, 2008 13:58 Thread: Day 5 Votes Direct Link

I change my first vote to: evilmonkey
Second vote: aznvaliance

BlindAlbino April 11, 2008 13:57 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

before we proceed lynching off clues, we should get guaranteeds first.
I hope people see and change vote to aznviance/evilmonkey. one is most certainly mafia.


BlindAlbino April 11, 2008 10:13 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

pink, those are called lurkers. ppl dont post, but if see name they respond. its common yes?


BlindAlbino April 10, 2008 22:10 Thread: Day 5 Votes Direct Link


I change my vote to str



second vote siefu

BlindAlbino April 10, 2008 22:09 Thread: Day 5 Votes Direct Link

I vote for energies

BlindAlbino April 10, 2008 22:07 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

hm not good. I am more concern about vigilante then blues, because best way to kill mafia.

If names used are consistent it seem 1 vigilante already useless, used up 2 hit(ordell) this man basically townie now?
3 vigi hits left only overall. so lynch must be perfect.

BlindAlbino April 10, 2008 11:36 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

hopefully he give priority in the 60 man game to active people

BlindAlbino April 09, 2008 12:22 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

yes I agree with str. Three letter clue plus his quote strong.

also agree suresh0t. seem obvious but maybe? hammer strong.

besides this I do not know. energies seem mafia I suppose? not strong enough at point this.

BlindAlbino April 09, 2008 10:49 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

I think need pay attention more to abstain list. there are probably mafia within because only 1 mafia is voting for trancestorm, which mean we are lynching our own townie.

BlindAlbino April 08, 2008 08:40 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

from this lynch we conclude that energies and suresh0t are mafia. no question in mind for me.

caller is not mafia my opinion, seems more bodyguard from posts.

BlindAlbino April 07, 2008 08:33 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

if it is finding down, you can look up to see clearly. what is plan of action ace?

BlindAlbino April 06, 2008 07:31 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

Is in interest of all who condemn the future, and live in past, to become one vote from outer dimension. With open mind and furnished instincts we will find mafia this lynch.
From apple to zebra we take one step at time until we fall down stairs or build foundation.

with this in your mind you know its correct vote araav.

BlindAlbino April 05, 2008 01:49 Thread: Day 4 Votes Direct Link

I vote for araav

BlindAlbino April 04, 2008 04:48 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

please dont make plexa die...he share same clue with me I think he right as well. but dont draw attention like this...like flies to lightbulb mafia will swarm.

BlindAlbino April 03, 2008 23:51 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

good job kill queasy. detective dropping like ball on child through puberty. how mafia get so luck i dont know.

after new clue my big suspect
str and energies, still
bumatlarge
suresh0t

queasy no longer on suspect list becuz now he dead

BlindAlbino April 02, 2008 12:41 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

how come mafia kill no one and who is new mr.lavender. 21 mafia name??
Remind me in Gobi desert.

this mean all paramedics save target?

BlindAlbino April 01, 2008 04:11 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

I thought mayor supposed be smart

BlindAlbino March 30, 2008 13:18 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

On that list i still feel str is mafia like you point out...its why i vote him.

besides this im not very sure.

Queasy, MidnightGladius, Bugzltoonl all seem good as well

and yes like nightmare say energies too. i use 2nd vote on him for the laast day.



BlindAlbino March 30, 2008 09:47 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

why no red?

BlindAlbino March 28, 2008 21:36 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

how can hack something with no password? so dumb kid here it not funny very much. game get boring i dont think i check this any more.

BlindAlbino March 28, 2008 13:43 Thread: Day 3 Votes Direct Link

Change my first vote from bumatlarge to str, second vote goes to Energies

BlindAlbino March 28, 2008 12:21 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

araav has explain to do like 500 rooster in the midle of stampede

BlindAlbino March 28, 2008 12:12 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

when the cow come home, its already past 12.

BlindAlbino March 27, 2008 14:17 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

ghar seem innocent.

BlindAlbino March 27, 2008 14:09 Thread: Day 3 Votes Direct Link

I vote bumatlarge

BlindAlbino March 27, 2008 14:06 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

phew I alive again.

my strong suspect are
str
energies
bumatlarge

from old/new clue..

BlindAlbino March 26, 2008 12:01 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

I dont want die Empyraen from china

BlindAlbino March 26, 2008 12:00 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

can mafia stop kill people -_- very annoying

BlindAlbino March 25, 2008 22:07 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

even 5000 marble do not make pyramid.
lynch wurm without proof is rain storm

BlindAlbino March 25, 2008 13:01 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

if glass is under the construction site, its ok to smash anyway?

BlindAlbino March 24, 2008 16:16 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

ok ace is deserve of respect seems.

BlindAlbino March 24, 2008 10:28 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

would be like 500 china glasses breaking on asphault if ace trick us.

BlindAlbino March 24, 2008 10:24 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

what clue has been linked to mandalor? why so many vote? i still think str = mafia

BlindAlbino March 24, 2008 04:19 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

can detective confirm ace is town person at very least? "no detectives speaking up" is not enough...they could simply be using it on other people/inactive

BlindAlbino March 24, 2008 04:08 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

why does ace want us to PM role? you cant just trust everyone this is quite dumb.

BlindAlbino March 23, 2008 14:16 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

^mafia

BlindAlbino March 23, 2008 01:07 Thread: Day 2 Votes Direct Link

I vote for str

BlindAlbino March 23, 2008 01:06 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

after reading all your thoughts, I feel the str clues are the strongest

3 letter name, and he cuts out the power...thats 2 strong clues so i will most likely vote for him

BlindAlbino March 22, 2008 14:41 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

good leads everybody, i am not so good at this clue stuff.

BlindAlbino March 22, 2008 02:20 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

ok i understand, did not see first page

BlindAlbino March 22, 2008 00:36 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

I was wonder, if mafia try hit me and i am "veteran" what happen? i dont understand

BlindAlbino March 21, 2008 09:51 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

i still really dont have any suspicions of anyone, just seems like a couple people got riled up.
keep our eyes on the prize guys.

BlindAlbino March 21, 2008 09:28 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

i think its no problem if the lucker is under the land

BlindAlbino March 20, 2008 22:15 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

huh? why was incontrol lynched I dont get it. hopefully you are better then that in the future ace

BlindAlbino March 20, 2008 11:03 Thread: Day 1 Votes Direct Link

Changing my vote from Ace to Randombum, seems Ace/empyrean are in this together from recent posts

BlindAlbino March 20, 2008 10:56 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

how can we even be sure your a townie at this point. this is ridiculous. making the game harder for us then it needs to be

BlindAlbino March 20, 2008 05:39 Thread: Day 1 Votes Direct Link

I vote for Ace

BlindAlbino March 20, 2008 05:38 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

alright well you seem to know what your talking about, so i will vote for you now

BlindAlbino March 20, 2008 05:27 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

yea but what makes you think they will call you out as mafia if they know that will happen? what if the detective knows you are mafia but just stays silent for his own greed? that is what im getting at.

BlindAlbino March 20, 2008 05:02 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

empyrean that is still flawed. that is assuming that one of the detectives will want to sacrifice himself(or lure paramedics) just to prove ace's innocence. as far as im concerned ace is pretty innocent

BlindAlbino March 20, 2008 04:55 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

ace that seems very flawed. How will you know the other detectives besides empyrean is telling the truth? they would have to reveal themselves for this to happen.

BlindAlbino March 19, 2008 13:01 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

Voting patterns is important as well. because most of the mafia members will lurk so you can't tell what they act like.

BlindAlbino March 19, 2008 11:44 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

just declaring that im voting for him... empyrean seems mafiaish he keeps jumping at people.

not yet ace...i want to see how the votes pan out

BlindAlbino March 19, 2008 11:26 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

Well hopefully we can get a good mayor/pardoner this time around. Tracil was completely useless last game, and the whole lynching FS thing was a joke. If we are gonna elect someone, has to be someone that people actually like so we dont get another bandwagon lynch.

I vote Ace for Mayor.

BlindAlbino March 18, 2008 21:52 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link

lots of candidates for mayor hm
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Plexa
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April 15 2008 02:16 GMT
#4537
If midnightgladius is red, MTF is indeed green, as is smurfingchobo, L and unsoundlogic.
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Plexa
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April 15 2008 05:29 GMT
#4552
Ace ^^^^^^^
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April 15 2008 12:04 GMT
#4575
qrs, the day you bring something to the table is the day i take you seriously. You have done nothing but criticize everyone doing hard work. (Ace, MTF etc) jeez man, do some analysis/work and stop bitching
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 15 2008 14:01 GMT
#4585
Id just like to say that i support MTF's findings for the following mafia;

Eddie as LostYourSkills
MidnightGladius as Snake Charmer
Crazie-Penguin as King Brown Snake
0cz3c as Copperhead
And JimTudor as mafia, although not necessarily Mr Blonde
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April 15 2008 14:15 GMT
#4587
that goes without saying i think
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Last Edited: 2008-04-17 14:21:21
April 16 2008 03:00 GMT
#4646
+ Show Spoiler [eddie] +
Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner".

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help.

Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat.

As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him Frenh_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.

Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help"

Lenwe snatched up the piece of rebar and Mr. Red retreated to the new threat he posed. Eddie wasn't afraid to take on Lenwe, however, and charged strait at him grabbing the steel bar right out of his hand and knocking him to the ground with it. A few well placed blows and Lenwe was dead as well.

he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them.

They were just starting to get into it when Eddie cut their fun short by shooting decafchicken with his own gun and they all retreated quickly.
Traits
- Initially he got lucky shots in
- Later posts reveal skill in what he does

+ Show Spoiler [Joe] +
"Just let us go, you can run things however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there.

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you".

Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Joe kept a tight grip as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice.
Traits
- Joe is supportive of his team mates
-- You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not
-- "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ.
-- Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blonde] +
He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground.

He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead.

With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown.

He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot.

Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look.

"Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building.

They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground.
Traits
- Fairly physical
- No really solid theme

+ Show Spoiler [King Brown Snake] +
King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again.

New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there. New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself

King Brown Snake grabbed Caller's legs and he fell over after he lost his balance. Caller got a leg free and kicked off the maddened King Brown Snake but wasn't in the clear yet.
Traits
- Short
- 'Slapped' and 'maddend'
- We should be looking at crazie penguin imo

+ Show Spoiler [Cottonmouth] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm.

NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.

He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him.

Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104
Traits
- The numbers... they are annoying me immensely

+ Show Spoiler [Snake Charmer] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door.

Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.
Traits
- Slashing and associated with the sword

+ Show Spoiler [Mr White] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door.

He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.

Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look.

"I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building.

But just as soon as he did Mr. White smashed another pipe laying around in the back of xDark.Carnivalx's head. Another couple blows and xDark.Carnivalx was dead.
Traits
- Favors brutal blows to the head

+ Show Spoiler [The Wolf] +
The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head.

The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later.

He met gaze with The Wolf who was carrying some more debris from the building. Caller rolled to his right trying to dodge an attack from The Wolf but wasn't fast enough and took a vicious blow to the chest. He rolled to the side and started searching around for a weapon of his own as he jumped up from the ground.
Traits
- Seems to have a two part clue
-- Very accurate
-- Somewhat remorseful/respectful


+ Show Spoiler [Mr Brown] +
As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring.

Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.

Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying.

He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull.
Traits
- Indecipherable
- Find the player linking to that and we have a winner

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Red] +
Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black.

Dinmsab has just put away Mandalor's file and was reviewing the clues from the previous crime scene this evening when he heard something smack his window. He stood up to investigate and peered outside to see a man hurling matter at the side of his house from the ground. The man beckoned him to come out but after inspecting his window he promptly gave him the finger and instead went to call the police.

Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. Mr. Red charged toward Dinmsab at the same time Dinmsab let go of the door and started running out the garage. Dinsamb smashed into Mr. Red and knocked him off guard but almost lost balance himself. As he began picking up speed he heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him.

He would have made it free but Mr. Red threw something on the ground ahead of him and he slipped on it and landed face first onto the ground. Mr. Red pounced on his back and started smashing his legs with a broken piece of rebar. Lenwe spun around and Mr. Red lost his balance and fell to the ground.
Traits
- Constantly falling over
- Associated in throwing a substance

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Black] +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now.

Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life.

he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him.
Traits
- Extremely physical
- Perhaps connected with stopping things in their tracks

+ Show Spoiler [Enigma] +
Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"

The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can".

Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground.

he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him.
Traits
- "Ugly look" seems rather pivotal
- Charging

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Pink] +
"Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans.

Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock.

He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after

OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.

He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull.
Traits
- Sadistic but a skilled fighter at the same time
- Seems to be fast as well

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blue] +
Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out.

Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind.
Traits
- Chainsaw, sounds like an obvious clue (seeing as he's only been in two posts, hence lack of clues to write to him)

+ Show Spoiler [Copperhead] +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape.
Traits
- Gives people a choice
- Also has an accent

+ Show Spoiler [California Mountain Snake] +
the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake.

He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead.

Joe kept a tight grip as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice. He sliced clean through aZnvaLiaNce in his chest, his gut, his arms and legs and pretty soon aZnvaLiaNce was a bloody mess, and they left him there to bleed out and die knowing he couldn't do a thing to save himself in the condition he was in.
Traits
- "Weapon of choice" potentially a sharp hat
- Repetition of "sliced clean" emphasis on the sharpness of the weapon
(- Ninja4eva?)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Orange] +
But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut.

Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house.

Meta had saw them and was running towards Mr. Orange and Black Mamba. "Why aren't you calling for help" asked Meta as he reached them. Mr. Orange shrugged and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help.

Mr. Orange finally put an end to his bellows and shot Meta in the head, ending his life.
Traits
- Recurring theme of being unable to call for help
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 16 2008 03:34 GMT
#4651
nice to see that we picked up on alot of the same information MTF
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April 16 2008 04:00 GMT
#4654
Is it just me, or does Mr BRown remind you of a caveman?
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Last Edited: 2008-04-16 11:06:14
April 16 2008 10:55 GMT
#4673
BloodyC0bbler stopped to face them and tried to figure out what the ruckus was all about when he saw the looks on their faces.

Interesting quote


I beleive L is mafia; there is a 1/3 chance using the list and his persona fits that of "L" from deathnote
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April 16 2008 11:46 GMT
#4675
All of the Mobsters names in the clue section can be linked to a Quentin Tarantino movie. The only exception is, fittingly, Enigma.

I like Enigma could be the saboteur
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Last Edited: 2008-04-16 12:33:33
April 16 2008 11:58 GMT
#4676
+ Show Spoiler +
As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring.

Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.

Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying.

He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull.

Okay i've figured out Mr Brown

Note that every time Mr Brown chases someone, theres the indecipherable yelling.
Note too that he speaks rather well, and he is quite an able fighter - not killing with guns but with his hands.

This all seems rather contradictory HOWEVER;
A dragoon is a soldier who fights on foot but relocates on horseback.

The yelling is indecipherable BECAUSE ITS A HORSE
In addition to that, he is a soldier which fits everything else about him. The match is SO perfect its rediculous.

DrDragoon this game you really were mafia

+ Show Spoiler [DrDragoon info] +
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Kuja900 on Day 2
Abstain on Day 3
Abstain on Day 4
No vote on Day 5
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 16 2008 14:59 GMT
#4678
On April 16 2008 22:18 Scorch wrote:
Nice one!
A dragoon specifically uses guns though:
Show nested quote +
Dragoon is the traditional name for a soldier trained to fight on foot but who transports himself on horseback, in use especially during the late 17th and early 18th centuries. The name derives probably from the dragoon's primary weapon, a carbine or short musket called the dragon. Dragon carbines are said to have been named because, like the creature of myth, they "breathed fire" — a reference to the flames carbines emitted when fired.

While Mr.Brown pulls a gun out of his coat at Fishball's, which fits perfectly, he then proceeds to beat him to death instead. BloodyC0bbler is killed with a sharp stone. Both kills don't really match a dragoon.
Not to say this is a bad connection, but a dragoon prefers other methods of killing.

crazie-penguin convinves me more at the moment, so I'll vote for him.
Note that Mr Brown was persuaded AGAINST using his gun by Mr Pink in night 3, and in the second night his role was very very small, last night's clue perplexes me somewhat but i just have to draw on the fact that is his primary weapon which still leaves open the possibility of more physical attacks - he is a solider after all.
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April 17 2008 02:21 GMT
#4748
Crazie-Penguin as King Black Snake:
+ Show Spoiler [Reasoning] +

Definite clues: He is very short and doesn't appear to be human/appears to be deformed as he is "a strange man". I believe this is a strong allusion to the person not being human, as Chuiu can't just come right out and say such.

Crazie-Penguin: Penguins are short and would most definitely be strange looking if assumed a man. Also note this:

King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground


Slapped is a rather specific phrase. A penguin cannot punch, but they could slap.

And this:

Caller got a leg free and kicked off the maddened King Brown Snake


Maddened is, again, a specific phrase. Madness is a term for insanity, or craziness.

Credits to MTF

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April 17 2008 02:34 GMT
#4751
On April 17 2008 11:32 fusionsdf wrote:
too bad its not double lynch

I'm starting to believe this is strong too
everytime we don't have double lynch we have tons of suspects, then the double lynch rolls around we have 1 suspect haha
i mean, atm we have
L as mafia
Penguin as likely mafia
DrDragoon as likely mafia
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Last Edited: 2008-04-17 03:00:29
April 17 2008 02:56 GMT
#4755
qrs, there is enough evidence to warrant a lynching of L apart from Ace's judgement
so much so that there is a 1/3 chance of him being mafia

btw your analysis on suresh0t is flawed - point me towards a mafia who has had information come from all three parts of their profile? suresh0t is in the ghar/gladius/shadow basket as far as i am concerned
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 17 2008 03:33 GMT
#4757
I think L is right, given that he is blue (0.00000005% chance btw) then its super likely the mafia will kill him off tonight. If he lives, we can easily lynch him tomorrow. The rationale here is, why waste a lynch on L while there is still a minute chance that he is innocent. Lynching a mafia today won't decrease the kill count so we can take some time and lynch craziepenguin instead, lynching L tomorrow on the double lynch
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 17 2008 03:34 GMT
#4759
On April 17 2008 12:33 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
ace cannot declare double lynch today?
roleblocked
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 17 2008 03:42 GMT
#4762
On April 17 2008 12:36 nemY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2008 03:07 MTF wrote:
On April 17 2008 02:24 nemY wrote:
The inconsistencies in your guys "detective work" is uhh rather disconcerting... =/


Try doing some yourself! :p

Also, a general note: the only time criticism is helping in any way is when it is specific enough to reveal faults, such as qrs finding the missing two from Day 2 post. Your comments will be taken much more seriously if they have actual content to them instead of just bashing the people working hardest to figure things out.


Well I don't want to blindly take everything you say as fact now do I? Although, I have to give credit when it's due, I think you've been spot on for the most part. I'm nowhere near the cunning puzzle decipherer that you are, but it's not too much of a stretch to believe that at least one of the "puzzle solvers" (I'll use that term to avoid using the term "detective") is working on the inside. With insider information that only a few people know are privy to, can you blame me for being worked up a bit?

One thing to think about in regards to the King Brown Snake being crazie-penguin

King Brown Snake grabbed Caller's legs and he fell over after he lost his balance. Caller got a leg free and kicked off the maddened King Brown Snake but wasn't in the clear yet.

Penguins shouldn't be able to physically grab someone should they? Not trying to defend him and it's possible Chuiu unintentionally thought of that but... something seems fishy eh?

That being said the evidence is mostly stacked in favor of crazie-penguin and his defense is... laughable to say the least.
Well that could be explained if he used his beak to grab him - and then losing his balance because he lunged forward to grab him
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April 17 2008 03:51 GMT
#4765
On April 17 2008 12:47 nemY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2008 12:42 Plexa wrote:
On April 17 2008 12:36 nemY wrote:
On April 17 2008 03:07 MTF wrote:
On April 17 2008 02:24 nemY wrote:
The inconsistencies in your guys "detective work" is uhh rather disconcerting... =/


Try doing some yourself! :p

Also, a general note: the only time criticism is helping in any way is when it is specific enough to reveal faults, such as qrs finding the missing two from Day 2 post. Your comments will be taken much more seriously if they have actual content to them instead of just bashing the people working hardest to figure things out.


Well I don't want to blindly take everything you say as fact now do I? Although, I have to give credit when it's due, I think you've been spot on for the most part. I'm nowhere near the cunning puzzle decipherer that you are, but it's not too much of a stretch to believe that at least one of the "puzzle solvers" (I'll use that term to avoid using the term "detective") is working on the inside. With insider information that only a few people know are privy to, can you blame me for being worked up a bit?

One thing to think about in regards to the King Brown Snake being crazie-penguin

King Brown Snake grabbed Caller's legs and he fell over after he lost his balance. Caller got a leg free and kicked off the maddened King Brown Snake but wasn't in the clear yet.

Penguins shouldn't be able to physically grab someone should they? Not trying to defend him and it's possible Chuiu unintentionally thought of that but... something seems fishy eh?

That being said the evidence is mostly stacked in favor of crazie-penguin and his defense is... laughable to say the least.
Well that could be explained if he used his beak to grab him - and then losing his balance because he lunged forward to grab him


A penguin grabbing both of someone's legs with his beak though? I realize that I'll probably be suspect #1 if I turn out to be wrong in defending crazie-penguin, but do you really think your explanation is plausible?
In the world of mafia its plausible.. but unlikely to be real i dno.. i think it holds, theres certainly enough evidence to warrant a lynching imo... although i feel DrDragoon is also a very strong candidate as Mr Brown;

+ Show Spoiler +
As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring.

Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.

Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying.

He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull.


Note that every time Mr Brown chases someone, theres the indecipherable yelling.
Note too that he speaks rather well, and he is quite an able fighter - not killing with guns but with his hands.

This all seems rather contradictory HOWEVER;
A dragoon is a soldier who fights on foot but relocates on horseback.

The yelling is indecipherable BECAUSE ITS A HORSE
In addition to that, he is a soldier which fits everything else about him. The match is SO perfect its rediculous.
Also, note that even though dragoons use a particular weapon to kill people - beatings by physical means are not out of the question because they are soldiers after all and the fact that Mr Pink persuaded Mr Brown against using his weapon the first time

DrDragoon this game you really were mafia

+ Show Spoiler [DrDragoon info] +
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 17 2008 04:50 GMT
#4769
On April 17 2008 13:20 MTF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2008 13:08 nemY wrote:
Well, I didn't much expect my analysis to hold much water among the elite "puzzle solvers" such as yourself or Plexa. Later on I'll try to see if I can scrounge up anything.


Let me be clear here by saying that there is absolutely nothing wrong with questioning my or Plexa's or anybodies analysis, so long as you provide good reasoning against whatever has come up. Which the grabbing aspect was, I just don't think it stands up against all that is for him being a match. In fact, I think it's a damned good thing to do, alongside doing your own analysis, especially when it prevents an innocents kill or provides new information. Qrs proved me wrong a little while back showing that I missed a number in one of the Day posts by doing just that, and though I responded hostilely at first (sorry qrs, scorch) it was a very good thing he did; it brings us to new clues, new suspects, and takes heat off someone who I thought matched the clues beforehand.

So, by all means, fire away if you have arguments, guys. Just make sure to provide reasoning alongside "I think you're wrong".
100% agree, the more people we get active the better the town is
If me, MTF, fusionsdf and a bunch of others get knocked off then where will the town be?! Obviously, if you guys are also analysing then yano, town won't be as fucked haha
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April 17 2008 11:22 GMT
#4776
Even if L is the saboteur Ace was roleblocked TODAY thus cannot be role blocked tomorrow... AND we don't have anyone left really to roleblock haha
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 17 2008 13:16 GMT
#4777
Another mafia bites the dust;
+ Show Spoiler +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now.

Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life.

he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him.

In the first set of clues, Mr Black prevents harm to Copperhead and in effect controls all the damage that JeeJee is able to inflict (note the highlighted passage).
In the second set of clues Mr Black talks about "risk" and how Decaf is too much of a risk to stay alive

Now, this all coincides nicely with a certain name: DamageControl, join your buddies in mafia hell

Just read that passage again and again and keep damagecontrol in your mind and you'll see that the connection is obvious
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Last Edited: 2008-04-17 13:25:40
April 17 2008 13:22 GMT
#4779
?? has nothing to do with Mr Black sadly
i beleive you are referring to the vomit on the ground in day 2 or 3

NOTE: DC is off the mandalor list 18/20 mafia
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Last Edited: 2008-04-17 14:24:55
April 17 2008 13:39 GMT
#4780
just oh my fucking god, Mr Red has been unveiled...
+ Show Spoiler +
Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black.

Dinmsab has just put away Mandalor's file and was reviewing the clues from the previous crime scene this evening when he heard something smack his window. He stood up to investigate and peered outside to see a man hurling matter at the side of his house from the ground. (faeces?) The man beckoned him to come out but after inspecting his window he promptly gave him the finger (family guy connection?) and instead went to call the police. (makes sense if some guy was hurling shit at your window)

Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. Mr. Red charged toward Dinmsab at the same time Dinmsab let go of the door and started running out the garage. Dinsamb smashed into Mr. Red and knocked him off guard (because hes just a little monkey) but almost lost balance himself. As he began picking up speed he heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him.

He would have made it free but Mr. Red threw something on the ground ahead of him and he slipped on it (banana?) and landed face first onto the ground. Mr. Red pounced on his back (fits a monkey) and started smashing his legs with a broken piece of rebar. Lenwe spun around and Mr. Red lost his balance and fell to the ground.


Just oh my god...

Look at all the stuff that in that spoiler and thus we arrive at the conclusion that Mr Red was EvilMonkey

Rofl we suck
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 17 2008 13:51 GMT
#4782
dont miss out on the Mr Red expose at the bottom of pg 239
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Last Edited: 2008-04-17 14:18:35
April 17 2008 13:56 GMT
#4783
Okay, it just keeps on coming...

Its rather common knowledge now that Enigma is associated with his looks and whatnot.

Enigma ran his hand through his hair...

Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he...

Empyrean noted the features of the man..


[image loading]


Hello spoinka
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Last Edited: 2008-04-17 14:52:27
April 17 2008 14:38 GMT
#4786
On April 17 2008 23:26 Scorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2008 22:56 Plexa wrote:
Okay, it just keeps on coming...

Its rather common knowledge now that Enigma is associated with his looks and whatnot.

Enigma ran his hand through his hair...

Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he...

Empyrean noted the features of the man..


[image loading]


Hello spoinka

Meh. Weak methinks.
Howso?
It's actually quite a strong clue, as it also looks as if spoinka is charging at someone - another trait of enigma's

+ Show Spoiler [Enigma] +
Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"

The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can".

Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground.

he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him.

Read through that and tell me that that image does not correlate to Enigma? remember clues come from one section of a profile only therefore any picture links may seem dubious but are actually valid

There is also some additional information that i can't reveal as well
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 17 2008 15:10 GMT
#4789
On April 18 2008 00:05 Scorch wrote:
He has an ugly look on his face that can possibly even be interpreted as the look while charging, but that's about it. I can't see anything relating to Enigma running his hand through his hair (you don't even see spoinka's hair on his pic), exclaiming meaningful sentences, writing down notes, his friends, or holding someone to the ground. I don't believe all of these traits are there purely for storytelling purposes. At least a couple of them are connected to the player we are searching for, and spoinka doesn't fit that profile.
Not that I'd have a better candidate at hand, but I won't lynch someone only because he looks weird in his profile picture. Agree?
There is no consistency in enigma's profile except his appearance. Feel free to find any other recurring theme within him and go from there but trust me, the ugliness and his appearance is his defining trait. His epic speech? happened once... writing down notes? happened once... his friends? happened once... holding someone to the ground? links to the charging side of things my friend and is a recurring theme of enigma's

Feel free to show me where i have gone wrong, but everything is coming up spoinka for me. Just because its a simple image don't let the seeming 'lack of evidence' fool you from seeing a mafia..
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April 17 2008 15:22 GMT
#4791
Okay, my associate stumbled upon the following find for mr blonde

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He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground.

He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead.

With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown.

He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot.

Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look.

"Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building.

They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground.

There are soo many references to Mr Blonde being agile and appearing from no where, yet at the same time a rather strong figure... See the highlighted passages for evidential proof

Obviously, there is only one thing that is both nimble and powerful and that is a Ninja, thus i present to you Ninja4eva. as Mr Blonde
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April 17 2008 15:31 GMT
#4793
qrs who do you feel is the stronger suspect then?
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Last Edited: 2008-04-18 01:55:25
April 18 2008 01:50 GMT
#4816
Here's my take on the military references;
There are a lot of people with military references ie GeneralStan, CDRDude (CDR=commander) and so on but i feel that these connections, without that of a substantial clue, cannot point to either of those players. Hence, until there is something more concrete i dont think we can safely act on any of the clues, especially since we have a lot of targets at the moment

I'd also like to add that the evidence against jtan is as strong as any mafia we've caught before and it coincides with my clues from one section conjecture hence he is highly likely to be mafia in my opinion
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April 18 2008 01:59 GMT
#4819
On April 18 2008 10:56 Chuiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2008 10:45 Chuiu wrote:
Doing a vote count, I'll move to night tonight in a few hours.

On second thought the lack of voting disappoints me greatly. I think people are ignoring the thread because of the thread title. Which admins are the ones who can change it? It needs to say Day 6... I'll extend voting another day I suppose.

+ Show Spoiler [vote count] +
Vote Count:

L - 10
HeRoS)Pink
G.s)NarutO
Ace
Amber[LighT]
SoleSteeler
clazziquai
imDerek
KF91
crazie-penguin
smurfingchobo

vote to fuck L witha rake
ShaLLoW[baY]

crazie-penguin - 10
Scorch
fusionsdf
Plexa
MTF
Alventenie
Naib
Artanis[Xp]
RtS)Night[Mare
useLess
zeks

nemY
BuGzlToOnl

Dr.Dragoon - 2
Lysithea
Romance_us

Alethios
MoRe_mInErAls

suresh0t
qrs

26 of 92 possible voters accounted for.
Bob was updating it... but he's gone MIA
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Last Edited: 2008-04-18 02:51:04
April 18 2008 02:36 GMT
#4824
My associate is on a rolllllll

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Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out.

Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. (he's terrible at this stuff) Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind.


Whats the connection? When you're a novice you need support from your friends to keep going, encouragement when you do things right and help when you fucked things up. At the end of the day, the mafia are supporting Mr Blue because he is a "noob" and that brings me to the suspect ulszz due to his quote
Game focus: Build more drones, i'm a noob, i need reminding.


well done mr associate

Also:
1 mafia out of:
ulszz
araav
rts)night[mare
infundibilum
ahrara
qrs
nemy

which fufills that list

ALSO

if that holds, 10 of the following are mafia

clazziquai
ZBiR
BWdero
GeneralStan
Scorch
suresh0t
Lysithea
Ninja4ever.
Naib
SoleSteeler
L
Jimtudor
zeks
Unforgiven_ve
SoMuchBetter
ieatkids5
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Last Edited: 2008-04-18 13:50:13
April 18 2008 11:11 GMT
#4844
Here's a small summary of what we've uncovered thus far;

Confirmed
EvilMonkey = Mr Red
Mandalor = Snake Charmer
Queasy = SideWinder
BlindAlbino = Black Mamba
d.arkive = Taipan Snake

Suspected
L # or spoinka = Enigma
Dr.Dragoon = Mr Brown
craziepenguin = King Brown Snake
DamageControl = Mr Black
Ninja4eva. # = Mr Blonde
jtan = Eddie
ulszz = Mr Blue
0cz3c = Copperhead
ieatkids5 # = Mr White
suresh0t # or Ziel = The Wolf
SoMuchBetter # = Californian Mountain Snake
Clazziquai # = Mr Orange
ZBiR # = Cottonmouth

# denotes mandalor list
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Last Edited: 2008-04-18 12:56:23
April 18 2008 12:29 GMT
#4845
The mystery of Californian Mountain Snake has finally been revealed

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the closer man bowed with his hat in hand (think Crocodile Dundee) and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake.

He heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead.

Joe kept a tight grip as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice. He sliced clean through aZnvaLiaNce in {his chest, his gut} (pair one), {his arms} (pair two) {and legs} {pair three) and pretty soon aZnvaLiaNce was a bloody mess, and they left him there to bleed out and die knowing he couldn't do a thing to save himself in the condition he was in.

Notice how the weapon pierces in pairs (and that its done "pretty soon")? well after careful thought the object thrown by Californian Mountain Snake is indeed a boomerang - a commonly thrown australian weapon. Indeed it can be seen that Cali is the quintessential Australian man especially if you consider the hat being the stereotypical hat of the australians (the corked hat) to complement the stereotypical australian weapon - he is a total stereotype if you will

Thus, "AussieScum" or SoMuchBetter is indeed Californian Mountain Snake muhahaha

Note SMB is on the mandalor list
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Last Edited: 2008-04-18 13:10:37
April 18 2008 13:07 GMT
#4847
although i know MTF doesn't agree with this analysis, and my associate is skeptical .. however given that Cottonmouth must be on the mandalor list i arrive at this conclusion for cottonmouth...

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Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm.

NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.

He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him.

Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104
Just note there that he has a number of Kives ("belt") and a number of nails... which almost sounds like a collection of various objects right? If CottonMouth uses another set of weapons next night then this clue is strengthen (especially if the numbers don't add to 44). Basically, "Collection" is the english translation of the croation word zbir... Hence ZBiR - as your name literally means collection - you must be cottonmouth
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Last Edited: 2008-04-18 13:42:34
April 18 2008 13:40 GMT
#4848
Mafia must hate me
+ Show Spoiler +
But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut.

Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. (seems rather out of place given the calmness of the other two mafia in the room - he doesn't understand his comrades) Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house.

Meta had saw them and was running towards Mr. Orange and Black Mamba. "Why aren't you calling for help" asked Meta as he reached them. Mr. Orange shrugged (he doesn't understand him) and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help.

Mr. Orange finally put an end to his bellows (A very loud utterance (like the sound of an animal) which further emphasises the fact he doesn't understand him) and shot Meta in the head, ending his life.

So yea, Mr Orange doesn't understand shit why? because he doesn't understand english (its no coincidence he hasn't spoken yet) i leave you with the suspect clazziquai as Mr Orange because of the following;
1) "me from kiribati. me no speak english. ^^" thats mr orange all right
2) on the mandalor list
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April 18 2008 14:42 GMT
#4851
On April 18 2008 23:27 Naib wrote:
I suggest you Plexa to name like 3 people who you are the most certain of being Mafia (apart from that one which we hopefully lynch today), so our remaining few Vigi kills don't go to a waste / they don't get killed before they have the chance to rape anyone.
We have no vigil shots left
BC and the guy who killed BlindAlbino had one shot each - and then BC died and we used the one shot on alby

that being said, today we lynch penguin, tomorrow L and ulszz

On April 18 2008 23:33 Scorch wrote:
Plexa is on fire!
I think the ZBiR connection is a bit unnatural (he's from Poland, not Croatia). I can certainly agree with SoMuchBetter and clazziquai though. I already had them suspected earlier, even if it was in a different context either time.
Too many criminals to kill for our small militia. Should we call the army for help?
Fair enough.. We've filled our quota for non-mandalor list names so im focusing on a reduced list.. some idiot [ala me] attained an incorrect list missing names.. i will look over it and see if there is a better candidate than ZBiR
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Last Edited: 2008-04-18 15:34:11
April 18 2008 15:12 GMT
#4852
Here is my list of mafia associations. 20/20. could be wrong and the reasoning may be missing for a lot of them but this is here for a record in case i die.. rest assured there are reasons for everything

> - one suspect is greater than the other


DEAD
-------------------------
Mr Red: EvilMonkey
Snake Charmer: Mandalor
Taipan Snake: d.arkive
Sidewinder: Queasy
Black Mamba: Blind Albino
-------------------------

SUSPECTS
-------------------------
Mr Brown: Dr.Dragoon
Mr Blue: Ulszz > Scorch
Mr Pink: Scorch > Lysithea
Mr Orange: Clazziquai
Mr Black: DamageControl
Enigma: L > spoinka
Eddie: jtan
The Wolf: suresh0t = ziel
Mr Blonde: Ninja4ever
Copperhead: 0zc3z
Californian Mountain Snake: SoMuchBetter
Mr White: ieatkids5
CottonMouth: ZBiR > str
Joe: Artanis

LYNCHING ORDER
-------------------------
1) craziepenguin
2) L + Ulszz (double lynch)
3) 0zx3c
4) Clazziquai
5) Ninja4ever
6) SoMuchBetter
7) DamageControl
8) ieatkids5
9) jtan
10) Dr.Dragoon
11) Suresh0t
12) Scorch
13) ZBiR
14) Artanis

Note that this list is subject to change pending later clues and that when a double lynch occurs you take the top two
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April 18 2008 15:32 GMT
#4853
Also, note that
0cz3c
BlindAlbino
clazziquai
Queasy
All changed their votes to randombum right in between the penultimate and final vote counts oddly enough all four are suspects/mafia hence 0cz3c and Clazziquai have EXTRA reason to be mafia on top of their clues
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April 18 2008 16:12 GMT
#4855
On April 19 2008 01:05 Scorch wrote:
Wait, I am the prime suspect for Mr. Pink? Why is that? Since your word has a lot of weight (rightly so!), I'd very much like to hear the reasoning for this accusation. Let me state this clearly: I am a townie.
Let me first of start by saying you are very low on the lynch list because Mr Pink is proving to be a difficult character for me and my associate to understand. My associate is analysing him very strongly tonight (along with joe).

Basically, i am rather convinced that Mr Pink is some kind of super human... now Lysithea's profile picture has an interesting copyright - "HYBRID WORKS" - which could allude to Mr Pinks superhuman traits, the alternative is some kind of super hero, Supah can't be it because of a number of reasons, however, Scorch is a Super Villainesse (antagonist of superman) and hence, somewhat fits the criteria.
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Last Edited: 2008-04-18 16:36:53
April 18 2008 16:35 GMT
#4857
if you could find a supervillain it would be much appreciated and at that rate how do you feel about lysithea's clue
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April 19 2008 01:34 GMT
#4879
My associate is really coming around as a premiere detective and i am 100% sold on this interpretation of joe
+ Show Spoiler +
"Just let us go, you can run things(Engine?) however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit(Pit stop?). A few paces and he thought he was home(End of the race?) free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged(as in a car gauge) the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there.(Fuel?)

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. Maybe another connection

He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed (someone driving down the road) obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and (Joe got out of the car.) "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you".

Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Joe kept a tight grip (To the steering wheel, or clutch?) as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice.


Whos got strong car references? i dont know - maybe you do
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Last Edited: 2008-04-19 06:10:42
April 19 2008 06:10 GMT
#4891
well done mtf!

@Useless; yes it does
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Last Edited: 2008-04-19 08:53:22
April 19 2008 07:47 GMT
#4898
This is the current debate - who is guilty? nemY or ulszz?

+ Show Spoiler +
"Just let us go, you can run things(Engine?) however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit(Pit stop?). A few paces and he thought he was home(End of the race?) free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged(as in a car gauge) the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there.(Fuel?)

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. Maybe another connection

He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed (someone driving down the road) obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and (Joe got out of the car.) "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you".

Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Joe kept a tight grip (To the steering wheel, or clutch?) as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice.


"Driving round and round (car connection) until its dawn
To look for you in rooms we used to go
I held you back, (joe always does this) I had to set you free
But now I know what’s meant to be"

This links to joe very strongly (its intuitive but if youre really not sold leave a comment) and the quoted section comes from the song in nemY's profile

OR


+ Show Spoiler +
Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out.

Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. (he's terrible at this stuff) Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind.


Whats the connection? When you're a novice you need support from your friends to keep going, encouragement when you do things right and help when you fucked things up. At the end of the day, the mafia are supporting Mr Blue because he is a "noob" and that brings me to the suspect ulszz due to his quote
Game focus: Build more drones, i'm a noob, i need reminding.

+ Show Spoiler +
Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out.

Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. (he's terrible at this stuff) Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind.


Whats the connection? When you're a novice you need support from your friends to keep going, encouragement when you do things right and help when you fucked things up. At the end of the day, the mafia are supporting Mr Blue because he is a "noob" and that brings me to the suspect ulszz due to his quote
Game focus: Build more drones, i'm a noob, i need reminding.


Now im pretty certain one of them is mafia - but which one?
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Last Edited: 2008-04-19 07:53:16
April 19 2008 07:51 GMT
#4899
Update on Mr Brown (live life lively thnx to associate)

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As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring.

Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.

Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying.

He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull.


Note that every time Mr Brown chases someone, theres the indecipherable yelling.
Note too that he speaks rather well, and he is quite an able fighter - not killing with guns but with his hands.

This all seems rather contradictory HOWEVER;
A dragoon is a soldier who fights on foot but relocates on horseback.

The yelling is indecipherable BECAUSE ITS A HORSE
In addition to that, he is a soldier which fits everything else about him. The match is SO perfect its rediculous.
Also, note that even though dragoons use a particular weapon to kill people - beatings by physical means are not out of the question because they are soldiers after all and the fact that Mr Pink persuaded Mr Brown against using his weapon the first time

UPDATE: the blue highlighted passage ties into the Dr theme really really well "coat" ie lab coat hahaha

DrDragoon this game you really were mafia

On April 19 2008 15:50 clazziquai wrote:
Nice! We're finally on the right track ^^

Great job MTF, but am I still on your suspect list?

+ Show Spoiler +
But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut.

Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. (seems rather out of place given the calmness of the other two mafia in the room - he doesn't understand his comrades) Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house.

Meta had saw them and was running towards Mr. Orange and Black Mamba. "Why aren't you calling for help" asked Meta as he reached them. Mr. Orange shrugged (he doesn't understand him) and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help.

Mr. Orange finally put an end to his bellows (A very loud utterance (like the sound of an animal) which further emphasises the fact he doesn't understand him) and shot Meta in the head, ending his life.

So yea, Mr Orange doesn't understand shit why? because he doesn't understand english (its no coincidence he hasn't spoken yet) i leave you with the suspect clazziquai as Mr Orange because of the following;
1) "me from kiribati. me no speak english. ^^" thats mr orange all right
2) on the mandalor list
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Last Edited: 2008-04-19 11:28:39
April 19 2008 11:25 GMT
#4912
On April 19 2008 19:43 Ninja4ever. wrote:
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On April 19 2008 19:15 Camlito wrote:
Ninja, that is a pretty weak defence, as Chuiu has used 1 thing for most people (if not all) so far. Just because you have a qoute, doesn't mean it has to be used.


Yeah, it's a weak defense, but I don't think I have anything else.
Firstly you were accused of being CottonMouth - and i don't blame people, its a logical connection... but just not a ninja... Mr Blonde however fits every possible description of a ninja! No other character could brace himself on a roof and swoop down on his prey? Also Mr Blonde is strong yet fast which is the perfect ninja.


On April 19 2008 18:54 Scorch wrote:
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On April 19 2008 18:16 MTF wrote:
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8-CDRdude
19-ulszz
27-nemY(2)
34-RtS)Night[Mare(2)
48-qrs(2)
51-araav(2)
52-iNfuNdiBuLuM(2)
85-ahrara_(2)


One of those eight is mafia, and Ulszz/nemY are the only ones we have connected clues with.


I do have another suspect among these, RtS)Night[Mare.
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On April 19 2008 02:55 Scorch wrote:
Not a supervillain, but my own take on Mr. Pink
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"Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" (wisdom, cool-headed planning) commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans.

Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia (unemotional remark). As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot (gruesome, macabre), the two men became filled with shock.

He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after

OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head (same again). OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter (gained a "level-up" from Mynock's pain?). Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live (energy leeched out of him?).

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. (Mr. Pink wants to beat him to death slowly for additional pain, instead of shooting him dead quickly. Mr.Brown obeys because Mr.Pink is considered wise and cold-minded.) Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.

From this, I extract two major themes: bloodlust/violence/sadism and thoughtfulness/wisdom/considerateness. Bind this to RtS)Night[Mare's profile text:
"Pain makes one suffer.
Suffering makes one think.
Thinking makes one wise.
And Wisdom makes life bearable."
Nightmare gains wisdom/strength by pain (of his victims?). This fits perfectly with Mr.Pink's brutality and sadism, and it also explains Mr.Pink's smartness and good thinking. If you want to take the "supervillain or being with superhuman powers" route, a "Nightmare" or "Incubus" is also a demon, which drains energy from its victim and would probably be a strong fighter.


I'd say ulszz > NightMare > nemY.
I agree with a lot of the analysis put forward here, except for one thing - the level up part that just sounds.. stupid haha But, i'd like to point you towards the most recent outing of Mr Pink

Mr. Brown and Mr. Pink were hunting their own prey that night. They were stalking down the street where shadowdrgn had previously been killed trying to find clues to the man responsible. It was obvious to them he was a threat as he was trying to find out who they were to kill. They found the crime scene and walked closer to get a better look. But as they approached it they noticed a man walking away. Both wondering who he was they decided they would instead find out by killing him right there. Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying. BloodyC0bbler stopped to face them and tried to figure out what the ruckus was all about when he saw the looks on their faces. BloodyC0bbler decided it was best to run from them instead and started heading toward his car parked a couple blocks down. He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull. They were quite satisfied to see BloodyC0bbler's corpse turn blue as they headed back to mafia HQ.
The highlighted sections don't seem to mesh that well with nightmare's quote. Most notably the theme of speed (also note how Mr Pink didn't actually beat him?)

The first highlight is either a reference to Mr Pink being some kind of animal, or Mr Brown being some kind of savage human being... i cant find anyone fitting that role of Mr Brown (hence Dr.D as a suspect) but perhaps you can find something on mr pink? it certainly would make ALL of his clues make sense. My associate in particular has been stressing this to me for awhile (i on the other hand think he is a superhuman..)

With that in mind, nemY's clue, after careful revision, is too much of a stretch. In chuiu's case, the simpler clue is often the correct clue. Extrapolating the lyrics from a few lines of a song in a profile is just not his style. As much as i'd like to see nemY killed for being joe - i think he'll just end up being green.

With nightmare's role as Mr Pink under scrutiny, and nemY's clue too much of a strech - im rather confident in ulszz being Mr Blue
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Last Edited: 2008-04-19 12:16:59
April 19 2008 11:52 GMT
#4917
Update for Mr Blue !!

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Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out.

Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. (he's terrible at this stuff) Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind.


Whats the connection? When you're a novice you need support from your friends to keep going, encouragement when you do things right and help when you fucked things up. At the end of the day, the mafia are supporting Mr Blue because he is a "noob" and that brings me to the suspect ulszz due to his quote
Game focus: Build more drones, i'm a noob, i need reminding.


UPDATE: Game focus... what is the game focus of the mafia?
Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out.

Credits: Associate

Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw.
The fact that he hasn't killed anyone with a chainsaw yet, and the fact that he really wanted to, also emphasises the fact that he is new on the job
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April 19 2008 12:35 GMT
#4919
On April 19 2008 21:33 Scorch wrote:
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On April 19 2008 20:25 Plexa wrote:I agree with a lot of the analysis put forward here, except for one thing - the level up part that just sounds.. stupid haha But, i'd like to point you towards the most recent outing of Mr Pink

Mr. Brown and Mr. Pink were hunting their own prey that night. They were stalking down the street where shadowdrgn had previously been killed trying to find clues to the man responsible. It was obvious to them he was a threat as he was trying to find out who they were to kill. They found the crime scene and walked closer to get a better look. But as they approached it they noticed a man walking away. Both wondering who he was they decided they would instead find out by killing him right there. Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying. BloodyC0bbler stopped to face them and tried to figure out what the ruckus was all about when he saw the looks on their faces. BloodyC0bbler decided it was best to run from them instead and started heading toward his car parked a couple blocks down. He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull. They were quite satisfied to see BloodyC0bbler's corpse turn blue as they headed back to mafia HQ.
The highlighted sections don't seem to mesh that well with nightmare's quote. Most notably the theme of speed (also note how Mr Pink didn't actually beat him?)

If we assume Mr.Pink is indeed an incubus demon, it would work. I did a little research on nightmares and incubi and found out that in different tellings, incubi drain the life out of their victims to sustain themselves (That's what I meant with the level-up part, gaining strength from sucking out his energy. That's why Mynock has no chance against Mr.Pink for the rest of the fight, and dies with no strength left to live.), and that they have sexual intercourse with people in their sleep. While Mr.Pink didn't rape anyone, holding BloodyC0bbler down would fit: Wikipedia states that in fact The word incubo translates into "I lie on top". Furthermore, BloodyC0bbler feels himself dying already before he is caught, probably because the demon has already begun draining his energy from a distance.

I'm not claiming this to be a correct connection and that RtS)Night[Mare absolutely has to be mafia, but I know that I am innocent and try to defend myself by suggesting a plausible alternative.
Just be glad ulszz has his ass pinned to mr blue
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Last Edited: 2008-04-19 13:03:00
April 19 2008 12:44 GMT
#4920
This is a rather decent interpretation for Mr Pink and coincides with a alot of information

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"Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans.

Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock.

He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after

OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight (he's a good fighter, as is yogurt) Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. (he's gotten stronger) Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live. (he's been drained)

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. (why would they do this?) Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.

Mr. Brown and Mr. Pink were hunting their own prey that night. (mr pink hunts people for his energy)

He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could (he's losing energy) but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. (he's getting faster) Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull.


Mr pink drains people of their energy as correctly noted by scorch ... this leaves one person from the mandalor list in my mind.... he is a Soul Stealer or as a homonym, SoleSteeler

muhahaha SoleSteeler is Mr Pink
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Last Edited: 2008-04-19 13:27:30
April 19 2008 13:26 GMT
#4921
So, my associate has cracked Mr Joe after 72+hours of searching (leading to a massive face palm once we realised it)

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"Just let us go, you can run things (Engine?) however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit (Pit stop?). A few paces and he thought he was home (End of the race?) free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged (reference to a gauge) the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there. (Fuel?)

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you".

Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Joe kept a tight grip (To the steering wheel, or clutch?) as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice.
Seeing as Joe can be closely connected to the mechanic/motor theme ... upon a simple wiki search of a certain acronym..
Electric Transit, Inc. (also referred to as "ETI Skoda"), the defunct trolleybus company which made numerous vehicles for the San Francisco Municipal Railway

There is your motor connection... and the candidate?
ETI307 - Chuiu certainly love making you mafia

That makes 10 mandalor suspects accounted for, 10 non-mandalor
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April 19 2008 13:35 GMT
#4922
Just need to find a more solid suspect for cottonmouth than ZBiR =] GO LOOK TOWN
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April 19 2008 19:01 GMT
#4924
On April 20 2008 02:04 fusionsdf wrote:
methinks your associate is chuiu
rofl

find me cottonmouth or else!
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Last Edited: 2008-04-20 09:47:29
April 20 2008 09:45 GMT
#4930
i strongly suggest lynching L and ulszz
L will reduce the mafia kills while ulszz, if red, confirms the majority of my suspects

After that we can be free to lynch stronger suspect - i'd just like to point out that 0cz3c and clazziquai are the strongest suspects for mafia at this point because of the clue link and the mafia frenzy at the end of randombum's mayoral campaign
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April 20 2008 16:15 GMT
#4934
On April 21 2008 00:42 Scorch wrote:
L will definitely have to die unless a miracle happens and he somehow manages to save someone tonight.
As for the second lynch, I currently feel the strongest about SoMuchBetter and Dr.Dragoon. But ulszz would probably be the best strategic decision.
The best bet is to lynch L + someone from the showtime list;
8-CDRdude
19-ulszz
27-nemY(2)
34-RtS)Night[Mare(2)
48-qrs(2)
51-araav(2)
52-iNfuNdiBuLuM(2)
85-ahrara_(2)

Seeing as ulszz is the strongest candidate i feel that he should be lynched, However if anyone wants to point me to a strongest suspect be my guest (keeping in mind that i think that ulszz > nightmare)
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April 21 2008 12:17 GMT
#4970
Here's my counter analysis



Day 1

I dont think there is any point arguing the Day 1 clue pointed toward Mr Pink - that sentence is rather short and too subject to variation and can be read in a number of different lights so that it applies to a number of people. Hence can be argued supporting my arguement, and solesteelers.


Day 2

With that being said lets move onto Day 2, where we start to see some interesting clues about Mr Pink.
Yogurt and OneBlueAugust were playing a game of pool in the basement minding their own business when they heard the sound resonate from the house next door. They looked at each other puzzled and then went up the stairs to investigate the sound. They were almost to Mynocks house when four men intercepted them. Yogurt and OneBlueAugust saw them and OneBlueAugust asked them what was going on in the house. Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. No fear though, they had each had their share of the drink that evening and were ready to fight an army if one would present itself. Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after. Yogurt had thrown a rock that struck Black Mamba in the face with much ease. Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live.

A couple notes about this passage;
Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia.
could refer back to the first day post, but it can also refer to the fact death is something that is normal to Mr Pink - because he needs it to survive (my argument)
As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock.
this could very well refer to the sickie substance on the floor or perhaps it is
OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease
sidewinder throwing up on the floor - i've seen it argued both ways
He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after.
A mirror of what OneBlueAugust had just done to sidewinder
Yogurt had thrown a rock that struck Black Mamba in the face with much ease. Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help.
Yogurt is quite an able fighter - an aspect which is later mirrored in Mr Pink
OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter.
Obviously Mr Pink has attain this quality from Yogurt as before he just dealt a single punch - without following it up with blow after blow - but here is the kicker;
Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live.
OneBlueAugust is tapped of his own life energy - Mr Pink stole it



Day 3

Mr Pink was active again the next night, but with substantially less clues
Coincidentally Fishball had been looking for those darts and was turning around the corner just after it happened. He gasped in shock as he saw the corpse and immediately ran to call for help. He almost there when he saw two mafia in his way. Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.
While this day is 90% Mr Brown acting, there are a couple key lines for Mr Pink
quiet friend here is Mr. Pink.
Very inetering to note is that on day 1 mr pink spoke, day 2 mr pink said something - but it wasn't explicitly said and today he whispers to Mr Brown
Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.
This is a rather peculiar aspect about mr Pink, the question is why would you attack someone begging for mercy in such a manner to let them die in a slow painful death. The key part here imo
they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious
Once again Mr Pink has tapped his life forces and caused him to lose consciousness


Day 6

Mr pink took two days off, then came back with avengence last night.

Mr. Brown and Mr. Pink were hunting their own prey that night. They were stalking down the street where shadowdrgn had previously been killed trying to find clues to the man responsible. It was obvious to them he was a threat as he was trying to find out who they were to kill. They found the crime scene and walked closer to get a better look. But as they approached it they noticed a man walking away. Both wondering who he was they decided they would instead find out by killing him right there. Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying. BloodyC0bbler stopped to face them and tried to figure out what the ruckus was all about when he saw the looks on their faces. BloodyC0bbler decided it was best to run from them instead and started heading toward his car parked a couple blocks down. He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull. They were quite satisfied to see BloodyC0bbler's corpse turn blue as they headed back to mafia HQ.

The first thing which struck me in this clue was
Mr. Brown and Mr. Pink were hunting their own prey that night.
Which instantly makes me think that Mr Pink is either some kind of animal, or he feasts on humans. This is also the first time that Mr Pink has been introduced before the victim. This is followed up immediately by
They were stalking down the street where shadowdrgn had previously been killed trying to find clues to the man responsible.
stalking being defined as
1. A hunt for game carried on by following it stealthily or waiting in ambush
2. The act of following prey stealthily
Which tie nicely in with the idea that Mr Pink is hunting for food
He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could
This is the pivotal clue in this day - the fact that BC is dying before he is even struck. Much like the other victims of Mr Pink their life force is leaving them before they die.
but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground.
Mr pink suddenly has acquired the trait of being fast - probably from leeching BC


Conclusion
Here are the options;
  • Mr Pink is some sort of animal
  • Mr Pink is some kind of superhuman
  • Or, that he is leeching the life force of his victims (most likely)

No suspects come up under the first two headings, however SoleSteeler comes up under the third and ties in nicely with all the evidence/lists that we have at our disposal.

While our links for Mr Pink are weaker than a number of other suspects, by the time it comes to SoleSteeler being lynched we should have a lot more evidence all ready to examine and judge whether this analysis holds.
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Last Edited: 2008-04-21 12:31:21
April 21 2008 12:22 GMT
#4972
On April 21 2008 21:18 Ninja4ever. wrote:
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On April 19 2008 20:25 Plexa wrote:
On April 19 2008 19:43 Ninja4ever. wrote:
On April 19 2008 19:15 Camlito wrote:
Ninja, that is a pretty weak defence, as Chuiu has used 1 thing for most people (if not all) so far. Just because you have a qoute, doesn't mean it has to be used.


Yeah, it's a weak defense, but I don't think I have anything else.
Firstly you were accused of being CottonMouth - and i don't blame people, its a logical connection... but just not a ninja... Mr Blonde however fits every possible description of a ninja! No other character could brace himself on a roof and swoop down on his prey? Also Mr Blonde is strong yet fast which is the perfect ninja.


All these clues could point to G.s)Naruto.
Plus real ninja aren't strong. They're fast and don't make any noise, but strengh is a characteristic of ninjas only in naruto.

Naruto is innocent for a fact (its quite obvious) you're mafia lol

Oh yea, wtf at ninja's not being strong? They are fucking strong -.-; they spend 7 years mastering the ability to crush a skull with one hand haha if that ain't strong tell me what is
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April 21 2008 12:37 GMT
#4976
I really doubt nightmare is Mr Pink
  • Nightmare has nothing to do with Mr Pink at all
  • There is the supervillain Nightmare - but none of his powers/abilities match up with Mr Pink check if you want
  • Profile reads
    Pain makes one suffer.
    Suffering makes one think.
    Thinking makes one wise.
    And Wisdom makes life bearable.
    You could make a case for this i suppose, although there are some serious missing links
  • His profile pic when the game started was a southpark mexican - which doesn't correspond to mr pink at all
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April 21 2008 12:40 GMT
#4977
On April 21 2008 21:37 Ninja4ever. wrote:
Ah, didn't know naruto was innocent. ^^
Yeah, ninja practise ninjustu when they're six years old, but ninjustu doesn't develop strenght. When a ninja fights without arm (aka koppô taijutsu) he uses his ennemi's body against himself, wich doesn't require strenght.
The 18 disciplines of ninjitsu are;

1. Seishin-teki kyōyō (spiritual refinement)
2. Taijutsu (unarmed combat, using one's body as the only weapon)
3. Kenjutsu (sword fighting)
4. Bōjutsu (stick and staff fighting)
5. Shurikenjutsu (throwing shuriken)
6. Sōjutsu (spear fighting)
7. Naginatajutsu (naginata fighting)
8. Kusarigamajutsu (kusarigama fighting)
9. Kayakujutsu (pyrotechnics and explosives)
10. Hensōjutsu (disguise and impersonation)
11. Shinobi-iri (stealth and entering methods)
12. Bajutsu (horsemanship)
13. Sui-ren (water training)
14. Bōryaku (military strategy)
15. Chōhō (espionage)
16. Intonjutsu (escaping and concealment)
17. Tenmon (meteorology)
18. Chi-mon (geography)

What have we seen come up?
2, 11, 16

lets see how many more pop up? although there won't be many more because you'll be lynched soon
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 21 2008 12:47 GMT
#4980
Bottom line is, if you're in the firing line the only way to get out is to argue it based on the clue analysis like solesteeler
he's been bumped down the list because of that (atleast in my eyes) which has got him some more time to get clues

that being said we need to lynch L and ulszz tomorrow
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 21 2008 13:46 GMT
#4984
On April 21 2008 21:51 Scorch wrote:
Plexa discovered an aspect of soul stealing that means not only draining life energy, but also gaining the target's attributes. Kinda like shapeshifting. Creepy...
With that in mind, its not unreasonable to suspect nemY for the mirror being in his profile, but nemY can only be guilty is ulszz is innocent
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-21 15:26:23
April 21 2008 14:37 GMT
#4985
i thought i should chuck this out there for debate

STR is a three-letter abbreviation that may refer to:

* Short tandem repeat, in DNA testing
* Special Theory of Relativity, Einstein's theory
* Scientific-technological revolution, a term used by Soviet futurists to indicate change in society
* Strength
* String (computer science), in computing
* United States Trade Representative, formerly known as a Special Trade Representative
* Stuttgart Airport, Germany
* Scuderia Toro Rosso, a Formula 1 racing team
* Suspicious Transaction Report, see: Currency Transaction Report
* Séminaire Saint-Joseph de Trois-Rivières, a school in Quebec
* Suspend to RAM, in computing
* Sociedade da Terra Redonda, a Brazilian atheist and skeptic organization

Tudor
* Avro Tudor, a type of airplane
* Tudor bonnet, a style of cap
* Tudor City, an apartment complex located in New York City, New York, United States
* Tudor rose, a traditional heraldic emblem of England, first introduced by Henry VII
* Tudor Rose (film) is a 1936 film
* Tudor, a Romanian film about Tudor Vladimirescu.
* The Tudors, a 2007 TV series
* Tudor, a line of cars from the Ford Motor Company
* Tudor is a brand of watches manufactured by Rolex
* Tudor's Toughs, a paramilitary group during the Irish War of Independence (see Black and Tans)
* Tudor Rose is a track by the drum and bass artist Dillinja

and worst of all...

Ace
Transportation

* Ace (1913 automobile), a British car built between 1912 and 1916
* Ace (1920 automobile), an American-assembled car made in Michigan
* ACES (New Jersey Transit), a future rail line in the northeastern United States
* Ace Baby Ace, the world's first aircraft to be marketed as a homebuilt aircraft
* Ace Junior Ace, a two-seat sports aircraft sold in kit and plans form
* AC Ace, a sports car from AC Cars
* Advanced Compatibility Engineering, a Honda Motor Company auto body design marketing name
* Advanced Composition Explorer, a NASA satellite launched in 1997
* Altamont Commuter Express, a commuter train service in the San Francisco Bay Area connecting Stockton with San Jose
* Atlantic City Expressway, a toll road between Pennsylvania and New Jersey
* Atlantic Coast Express, an express passenger train in England
* Atlantic Council of Engineering Students
* Arrecife Airport in Spain, from its IATA airport code
* Cougar Ace, a RoRo car ferry developed a sever list in 2006 reulting in 4700 care being destroyed
* HMS Ace (P414), an Amphion-class submarine of the Royal Navy
* ACE, IATA code for Lanzarote Airport
* M9 Armored Combat Earthmover, an armored tracked vehicle that provides combat engineer support to front-line forces
* Tata Ace, a small four wheeled truck made by the Indian company Tata


Looks like our case against ETI is not as strong as we thought
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 22 2008 03:38 GMT
#5004
L i am with Amber on this one by a long shot. Not once have you brought up a single clue relating to him in any of your posts. He has every right to challenge you to bring up some evidence against him before he has to defend himself. After all, how can he defend himself against no threat at all?
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 22 2008 05:09 GMT
#5013
Obviously the best move for the mafia would be a hitlist like this;
1) Plexa
2) Plexa
3) Plexa
4) Plexa
5) Plexa
6) MTF
7) MTF

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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 22 2008 05:09 GMT
#5014
On April 22 2008 13:59 L wrote:
Not raping people with rakes.

:o
go make yourself useful and send a list to chuiu
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-22 06:40:47
April 22 2008 06:40 GMT
#5018
i'll come right out and say it - L and L alone should be protecting me tonight
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-23 07:04:40
April 23 2008 07:01 GMT
#5035
I received no pms

oh wtf these clues make no sense at all...
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-23 12:02:59
April 23 2008 11:52 GMT
#5052
+ Show Spoiler [eddie] +
Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner".

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help.

Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat.

As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him Frenh_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.

Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help"

Lenwe snatched up the piece of rebar and Mr. Red retreated to the new threat he posed. Eddie wasn't afraid to take on Lenwe, however, and charged strait at him grabbing the steel bar right out of his hand and knocking him to the ground with it. A few well placed blows and Lenwe was dead as well.

he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them.

They were just starting to get into it when Eddie cut their fun short by shooting decafchicken with his own gun and they all retreated quickly.

Eddie went down the long list of townspeople and selected a bunch for his mafia to handle. Once his orders were out they got right to work.
Traits
- Initially he got lucky shots in
- Later posts reveal skill in what he does

+ Show Spoiler [Joe] +
"Just let us go, you can run things however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there.

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you".

Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Joe kept a tight grip as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice.
Traits
- Joe is supportive of his team mates
-- You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not
-- "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ.
-- Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blonde] +
He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground.

He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead.

With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown.

He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot.

Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look.

"Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building.

They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground.


G.s)NarutO was doing monk things in his monk place with his monk friends when he decided it was late and he wanted to go to sleep. On the way to his room he encountered Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde mocked G.s)NarutO for his failed attempts at helping the town and then pulled out a gun to kill him. G.s)NarutO wasn't ready to give up on life completely though and thought he could redeem himself by taking out this man for the town. He charged towards Mr. Blonde and tried to grab his gun but Mr. Blonde was a bit faster to respond and shot him twice in the leg. He finished it by shooting G.s)NarutO in the head and made his escape through a window before getting caught by a horde of monks.
Traits
- Very strong and agile (able to evade)
- Multiple instances of people charging and Mr Blonde shooting them before they can react
- Note while ninja's are a likely suspect, the clue above is worth investigating

+ Show Spoiler [Cottonmouth] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm.

NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.

He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him.

Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104

Cottonmouth found Klive5ive walking to his friend house down the street and began his attack. He threw one stone at Klive5ive's back to get his attention, then when he had it he threw another two at him. Klive5ive dodged the next two and started picking up the stones to chuck back at Cottonmouth. Unfortunately Cottonmouth already had some more ready, throwing four more stones at Klive5ive. Klive5ive was severely bruised at this point and he struggled to throw back the stones with much strength. Cottonmouth threw three more stones at Klive5ive's right arm and three at his left arm in effort to disable him. With Klive5ive unable to defend himself Cottonmouth took two last stones and smashed them into Klive5ive's skull.
Traits
- Its not the numbers... 15 weapons each day
- Each day is a different set of weapons -> someone with a name connection to set

+ Show Spoiler [Snake Charmer] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door.

Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.
Traits
- Slashing and associated with the sword

+ Show Spoiler [Mr White] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door.

He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.

Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look.

"I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building.

But just as soon as he did Mr. White smashed another pipe laying around in the back of xDark.Carnivalx's head. Another couple blows and xDark.Carnivalx was dead.

Mr. White was last up that night. He encountered JoxxOr going out for a very early morning jog. He tripped JoxxOr using a wire he hid along the sidewalk and then used it as a choking device. JoxxOr struggled to get free as Mr. White pulled the wire tighter against his throat and suffocated him. It was a cruel death for JoxxOr.
Traits
- Favors attacking the head
- Last entry is a common theme

+ Show Spoiler [The Wolf] +
The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head.

The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later.

He met gaze with The Wolf who was carrying some more debris from the building. Caller rolled to his right trying to dodge an attack from The Wolf but wasn't fast enough and took a vicious blow to the chest. He rolled to the side and started searching around for a weapon of his own as he jumped up from the ground.
Traits
- Seems to have a two part clue
-- Very accurate
-- Somewhat remorseful/respectful


+ Show Spoiler [Mr Brown] +
As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring.

Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.

Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying.

He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull.
Traits
- Indecipherable
- Find the player linking to that and we have a winner

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Black] +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now.

Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life.

he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him.
Traits
- Extremely physical
- Perhaps connected with stopping things in their tracks

+ Show Spoiler [Enigma] +
Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"

The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can".

Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground.

he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him.
Traits
- "Ugly look" seems rather pivotal
- Charging

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Pink] +
"Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans.

Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock.

He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after

OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.

He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull.
Traits
- Sadistic but a skilled fighter at the same time
- Seems to be fast as well

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blue] +
Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out.

Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind.

Mr. Blue was first up, and he was outside the house of fusionsdf. He noticed him in the living room and decided to try to sneak in from the back. All windows locked he tried the back door. When he was left with no other option he decided to kick in the door which alerted fusionsdf. He ran to the back of his house to see Mr. Blue coming in. fusionsdf knew exactly what was going on and grabbed an umbrella that was sitting by the door. He stabbed at Mr. Blue and flailed at him trying to fight him off but Mr. Blue evaded the blows and grabbed hold of the umbrella and yanked it out of fusionsdf's hands. He broke the handle hitting fusionsdf over the head with it and discarded it. fusionsdf dived forward and tackled Mr. Blue to the ground but Mr. Blue shoved him to the side and quickly got up. He grabbed up the umbrella again and stabbed down at fusionsdf. The tip was enough to do severe damage to fusionsdf, and he stabbed through his chest as if it were nothing. Pretty soon fusionsdf was dead from the beating.
Traits
- I think the connection to him being a noob is still pretty strong
- Note how the moment he touches the umbrella he breaks it (same with the chainsaw) -> connection to breaking stuff?
- Also note how he cannot kill with a decisive blow, instead wounds his opponent (chainsaw vs arm, umbrella vs chest)

+ Show Spoiler [Copperhead] +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape.

Copperhead found Falcynn working late at school on an essay. He saw him at a computer typing it up and crept up from behind. Copperhead grabbed his chair and wheeled him into a printer table off to the side knocking several things from the shelves onto him. Falcynn pushed himself away from it and got up to defend himself, he grabbed a pen which had fallen onto the ground and slashed upward with it at Copperhead. Copperhead grabbed a keyboard and used it as a shield, he deflected the pen and smashed it into Falcynn. He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head between the two keyboards.
Traits
- Choice clue is quite strong at this point
- Seems to be inconsistent in both days

+ Show Spoiler [California Mountain Snake] +
the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake.

He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead.

Joe kept a tight grip as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice. He sliced clean through aZnvaLiaNce in his chest, his gut, his arms and legs and pretty soon aZnvaLiaNce was a bloody mess, and they left him there to bleed out and die knowing he couldn't do a thing to save himself in the condition he was in.
Traits
- "Weapon of choice" potentially a sharp hat
- Repetition of "sliced clean" emphasis on the sharpness of the weapon
(- Ninja4eva?)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Orange] +
But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut.

Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house.

Meta had saw them and was running towards Mr. Orange and Black Mamba. "Why aren't you calling for help" asked Meta as he reached them. Mr. Orange shrugged and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help.

Mr. Orange finally put an end to his bellows and shot Meta in the head, ending his life.

useLess was sitting at home just watching TV when he heard a strange sound from outside his window. He went over to investigate and Mr. Orange jumped right through it and almost knocked useLess down as he flew past him. He quickly turned around and had useLess in a headlock. useLess struggled to free him self and stabbed at Mr. Orange with shards of glass. Mr. Orange broke off and flinched in pain. He grabbed a few shards of glass himself and stabbed through useLess's arms with them. Then to finish him off he made long gashes into useLess and left him to bleed to death.
Traits
- Recurring theme of screaming in pain/screaming for help
- Hasn't talked yet
- "Strange Sound" - its not english
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Last Edited: 2008-04-23 12:14:30
April 23 2008 12:12 GMT
#5054
Just like to take the time to point out the following...


+ Show Spoiler +
Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out.

Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. (he's terrible at this stuff) Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind.

Mr. Blue was first up, and he was outside the house of fusionsdf. He noticed him in the living room and decided to try to sneak in from the back. All windows locked he tried the back door. When he was left with no other option he decided to kick in the door which alerted fusionsdf. He ran to the back of his house to see Mr. Blue coming in. fusionsdf knew exactly what was going on and grabbed an umbrella that was sitting by the door. He stabbed at Mr. Blue and flailed at him trying to fight him off but Mr. Blue evaded the blows and grabbed hold of the umbrella and yanked it out of fusionsdf's hands. He broke the handle hitting fusionsdf over the head with it and discarded it. fusionsdf dived forward and tackled Mr. Blue to the ground but Mr. Blue shoved him to the side and quickly got up. He grabbed up the umbrella again and stabbed down at fusionsdf. The tip was enough to do severe damage to fusionsdf, and he stabbed through his chest as if it were nothing. Pretty soon fusionsdf was dead from the beating.


Whats the connection? When you're a novice you need support from your friends to keep going, encouragement when you do things right and help when you fucked things up. At the end of the day, the mafia are supporting Mr Blue because he is a "noob" and that brings me to the suspect ulszz due to his quote
Game focus: Build more drones, i'm a noob, i need reminding.


*UPDATE i still think this points to him... he can't use weapons (second time he's broken a weapon) and he can't kill either (shredded an arm, severely wounded fusionsdf) he's got to be a noob...


+ Show Spoiler +
But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut.

Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. (seems rather out of place given the calmness of the other two mafia in the room - he doesn't understand his comrades) Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house.

Meta had saw them and was running towards Mr. Orange and Black Mamba. "Why aren't you calling for help" asked Meta as he reached them. Mr. Orange shrugged (he doesn't understand him) and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help.

Mr. Orange finally put an end to his bellows (A very loud utterance (like the sound of an animal) which further emphasises the fact he doesn't understand him) and shot Meta in the head, ending his life.

useLess was sitting at home just watching TV when he heard a strange sound from outside his window. He went over to investigate and Mr. Orange jumped right through it and almost knocked useLess down as he flew past him. He quickly turned around and had useLess in a headlock. useLess struggled to free him self and stabbed at Mr. Orange with shards of glass. Mr. Orange broke off and flinched in pain. He grabbed a few shards of glass himself and stabbed through useLess's arms with them. Then to finish him off he made long gashes into useLess and left him to bleed to death.

So yea, Mr Orange doesn't understand shit why? because he doesn't understand english (its no coincidence he hasn't spoken yet) i leave you with the suspect clazziquai as Mr Orange because of the following;
1) "me from kiribati. me no speak english. ^^" thats mr orange all right
2) on the mandalor list

*Update* notice how even when he gets stabbed with pain he doesn't yell out.. the silence clue is condemning.. also clazz joined the mafia train at the end of the mayor votes


+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blonde] +
He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground.

He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead.

With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown.

He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot.

Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look.

"Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building.

They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground.


G.s)NarutO was doing monk things in his monk place with his monk friends when he decided it was late and he wanted to go to sleep. On the way to his room he encountered Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde mocked G.s)NarutO for his failed attempts at helping the town and then pulled out a gun to kill him. G.s)NarutO wasn't ready to give up on life completely though and thought he could redeem himself by taking out this man for the town. He charged towards Mr. Blonde and tried to grab his gun but Mr. Blonde was a bit faster to respond and shot him twice in the leg. He finished it by shooting G.s)NarutO in the head and made his escape through a window before getting caught by a horde of monks.


Okay, it just keeps on coming...

Its rather common knowledge now that Enigma is associated with his looks and whatnot.

Enigma ran his hand through his hair...

Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he...

Empyrean noted the features of the man..

[image loading]


Hello spoinka

**Update** perhaps consider him for the role of mr blonde if ninja is green? i can see a connection in the charging...


+ Show Spoiler +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm.

NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.

He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him.

Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104

Cottonmouth found Klive5ive walking to his friend house down the street and began his attack. He threw one stone at Klive5ive's back to get his attention, then when he had it he threw another two at him. Klive5ive dodged the next two and started picking up the stones to chuck back at Cottonmouth. Unfortunately Cottonmouth already had some more ready, throwing four more stones at Klive5ive. Klive5ive was severely bruised at this point and he struggled to throw back the stones with much strength. Cottonmouth threw three more stones at Klive5ive's right arm and three at his left arm in effort to disable him. With Klive5ive unable to defend himself Cottonmouth took two last stones and smashed them into Klive5ive's skull.
Just note there that he has a number of Kives ("belt") and a number of nails... which almost sounds like a collection of various objects right? If CottonMouth uses another set of weapons next night then this clue is strengthen (especially if the numbers don't add to 44). Basically, "Collection" is the english translation of the croation word zbir... Hence ZBiR - as your name literally means collection - you must be cottonmouth

**Update** Once again a collection remains - my suspicion grows esp since the numbers have fallen through


RE: Mr White

I think you could take laziness as a clue here.. especially since he entered last.. leave him for awhile


Todays Lynching

L and ulszz unless anyone has any objections (L we don't care about yours)
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 23 2008 12:13 GMT
#5055
On April 23 2008 21:08 Scorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2008 20:52 Plexa wrote:
place holder

What the hell would you need a placeholder for? I think your quest to bring proper structure into a 253 page thread is doomed to fail.

Regarding Cottonmouth, thanks qrs for your observation. Now what can we deduce from 15 being the magic number? Player #15 was Hittegods, so this is a dead-end. Letter #15 in the alphabet is O, but I don't have anything to tie to that letter. The ASCII symbol for 15 is SI (shift in). Can we make something out of that? I'm quite clueless.
easier to organize a post in edit mode rather than quickreply
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Last Edited: 2008-04-24 02:09:23
April 24 2008 01:52 GMT
#5071
On April 24 2008 03:24 MasterOfChaos wrote:
Mr. Blue related to lurker:
Day 6
* "Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw"
->Uses Chainsaw, which resembles the spike row a bit
->secret weapon-> lurkerspikes are a weapon which coming surprisingly from the ground

Day7:
* "stabbed through his chest as if it were nothing"
-> same applies to lurker spikes
* "The tip was enough to do severe damage"
-> spikes do damage with their tip
* "tackled Mr. Blue to the ground"
-> lurker burrows in the ground
* "sneak in from the back"
-> Lurker is a sneaky unit

Who has is related to a lurker
jtan:
he has a screenshot with a lurker and marines
[image loading]

Some additional clues fit here:
"aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall"
-> the lurkerspines hit the cliff and end there
-> The spikes miss the marines (the blood in the image looks like a dead lurker, not marineblood)
"but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed"
->missing again
"All windows locked he tried the back door. When he was left with no other option he decided to kick in the door"
-> Choke in the screen is the only entrance

CDRdude
Quote : avilo: Every now and then a lurker has to unburrow to reach a new position on the map, and become even more of a legend.

So no fek
Profile: I lurk TL.net. :O
very weak clue

Other weak chainsaw related clue
Puosu
,.-'´^`'-,.,.-'´^`'-,.,.-'´^`'-,.
ASCII-Art resemles a chainsaw
(Check it in the profile, I have charset problems with that string)
While the lurker spines feel like a good find i still feel that jtan is better connected to Eddie than Mr Blue... the connection is Eddies continual 'fire' then 'retreat' which is a theme amongst all his clues (except for the most recent as he doesn't actually kill anyone). If uslzz does indeed turn up green, then perhaps this is a path we should be looking towards.

As the clues have progressed, my suspicion about lostyourskills has declined and i think that candidates for eddie are running rather dry.

On April 24 2008 04:10 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2008 21:12 Plexa wrote:
Todays Lynching

L and ulszz unless anyone has any objections (L we don't care about yours)

I have a slight objection to lynching L unless we have no other good suspects. Reason: 1) There's still the possibility that he's a medic and 2) even if he isn't, we can still use him as one to a degree. E.g. if we want to keep Plexa alive (or someone else--no one too important, though), just keep telling L to protect him. Either L lets him die and we lynch L then, or he lives.
i thought about this on the bus home but i cam to the conclusion that killing two mafia today is so pivotal to win this game (esp when the mafia kill count is reduced to 6) that we really need to be axing as many confirmed mafia as fast as we can. ulszz has a high chance of being mafia, and we've got clazz/0zc3c lined up for the next couple lynches
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 24 2008 09:33 GMT
#5076
On April 24 2008 11:39 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2008 10:52 Plexa wrote:
i thought about this on the bus home but i cam to the conclusion that killing two mafia today is so pivotal to win this game (esp when the mafia kill count is reduced to 6) that we really need to be axing as many confirmed mafia as fast as we can. ulszz has a high chance of being mafia, and we've got clazz/0zc3c lined up for the next couple lynches



If we can somehow manage to lynch the saboteur today that will put us at a great advantage since we will no longer be role-blocked, which prevented us from a 2x lynch yesterday, and we need to utilize those for the remainder of the game. Victory is in sight for the townies, and I think knocking out the saboteur would be key. Sad thing is, who can we connect to that role?
I agree amber, however finding the saboteur is probably bloody difficult as it is probably a randomly assigned role to the mafia - much like the suicide bomber was.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 24 2008 12:42 GMT
#5079
On April 24 2008 20:43 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2008 11:43 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Suspect wise...

How do you feel about amber[Light]


haha are you serious?
Anyone suggesting amber light at this stage really has no clue whats going on..
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April 24 2008 14:45 GMT
#5081
its because they keep killing off the active townies!!

why not target some of the inactive ones like rpf (lolz)
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April 25 2008 11:44 GMT
#5112
i feel the fanatacist connection is fairly decent, worth noting as our primary suspect for Joe at this stage atleast
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April 25 2008 12:51 GMT
#5118
i think i found something potentially game breaking o.O but we'll see how it goes...

but it does say that the following are innocent;
Pangolin
Naib
BWdero
SoleSteeler
Last Romantic
Ahrara
0cz7c
which has two suspects i was sure were mafia =/
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Last Edited: 2008-04-27 08:35:33
April 27 2008 08:32 GMT
#5149
Well, one of these people are mafia:

CDRdude

Additional information:
avilo: Every now and then a lurker has to unburrow to reach a new position on the map, and become even more of a legend.


Name could mean "commander" dude, CD-R (rewritable CD) dude, or a number of other tech relating applications.. What mafia could he be? possibly Eddie or Californaian Mountain snake - Commander (navy rank) links to Eddie decently while the "weapon of choice" for cali could be a CD-R...

The quote could link to any of the following themes;
- Unburrowing/emerging/hiding
- becoming a legend

For this i suppose you could argue Mr Blonde's tendancy to appear (via unburrowing) which could actually be a viable clue seeing as the ninja thing isn't working out.

nemY

additional information
picture
~You're in my soul~
~You're in my mind~
~But I don't know where you are now~


Name has about zero links, you could stretch it something terrible and make the connection to enemY but cmon, thats just rediculous..

His picture could have a few things linking to it but none of these are really viable

The quote, however, could have have relevance. the title is "Stone" but other than that there is no real evidence pointing towards any mafia trait what so ever... nemY is likely to be innocent imo

RtS)Night]Mare

i dont buy any of the connections of "nightmare" to any of the mafia... if there were connections you'd have victims of this mafia waking up, dying in their sleep, or being tortured in a seemingly real but unreal environment - ie some kind of fantasy world. I don't see that happening with any of the victims (especially since they all get paired up with another mafia) and thus these connections are flimsy... at best you can connect to mr pink but thats terrible...

his picture has changed, used to be a mexican southpark character - which doesn't link to anyone imo

Pain makes one suffer.
Suffering makes one think.
Thinking makes one wise.
And Wisdom makes life bearable.

akh-gosu
this actually could point to alot of stuff... read up on ahk-gosu here (lots of lol) that coupled with the rather interesting quote could be connected (thematically) to say enigma or others... if enigma doesn't show up tonight then this suspicion tends to zero.

qrs

name is nothing more than sequential letters, so not clue material

which leaves;
It requires a very unusual mind to undertake the analysis of the obvious. --Alfred North Whitehead
This Whitehead character is some mathematician/philosopher from circa 1900 iirc and this quote would lead us to expect a mafia who was smart, looked at normal problems and approached from a different path or even someone who never took a non-calculated risk. Mafia suspects here could possibly be The Wolf or Mr Pink - where i think the wolf is marginally stronger.

also note that qrs has been resistant to Ace/Town since Day 0 and generally annoying to everyone involved. Although he did set MTF straight when MTF couldn't add

araav

well araav was pinned in that chatroom fiasco and was deemed innocent after that incident. his name means nothing, which means the clues should really be coming from other places like.

[image loading]

can we tie any of the mafia to a zealot? i don't think thats possible except for perhaps californian mountain snake - but thats a stretch considering the first round of clues directed towards him

The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
is a quote said by the Chinese Emperor in Mulan - possibly connected to Eddie? highly doubtful...

infundibulum

an infindibulum is a specific shape associated with organs, similar to that of say a stomach or kidney. Nothing along these lines have come up in the clues hence i dont think our dear friend here is going to be mafia based on this...

we have
[image loading]
which could tie nicely into californian mountainsnake, and indeed i think this is one of a best links to him (the other being SMB) and hence quite possibly a mafia..

Cheese in the grater is greater cheese
is kind of a bland/boring quote and has no real connection to any of the mafia clues same goes for...
Sup.
which has 0 relevance at all.

Ahrara_

i have no idea what Ahrara is, not even wiki does.. you could go Ah-Ra-Ra, but i have no idea how that links to anything..

his picture might link to something, but theres no theme of being on the ground or anything of that nature...

Running 8 min of T in the LOC.
wtf does this mean? i have no idea... someone tell me.. it might actually link to someone...



Thus;
CDRdude - 15% confidence
nemY - 1% confidence
Nightmare - 25% confidence
qrs - 5% confidence
araav - 10% confidence
infundibulum - 40% confidence
ahrara - 4%
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 27 2008 08:48 GMT
#5152
On April 27 2008 17:42 Alethios wrote:
This hasn't been pointed out yet, but Randombum's role of pardoner only really has one purpose:

To stop a lynching when it has been swayed by the mafia.

To be honest, pardons will only become important towards the end of a game... when a full team of active mafia might be able to sway a vote away from one of them onto a townie (assuming many town are inactive).

"33 of 85 possible votes [were] accounted for" in the last round of voting at the time 14 mafia were alive. Think about that... if all the mafia voted.. they'd make up near 50% of the vote count.

It isn't hard to imagine all voting for one person (now that all detectives are dead), add a bit of bandwagoning in there... and... dead townie.

Thus, it's going to be important later for randombum to use his pardons if it becomes obvious a person is innocent yet to be lynched.

However, if randombum uses or had used his power before such a situation occured, he would instantly be a prime suspect of protecting mafia.

Unfortionately, under Chuiu's current system of voting... a pardoner has very little time to react and use his pardon. A pardoner would need to be active... yet randombum isn't... which leads me on to my next point nicely.

------------

Does everybody remember the mayoral elections? Our two main candidates were Ace and Randombum. The two had similar ideas about how to lead the town to victory... with Ace winning out in the end because he came up with many of them.

I'd like to draw your attention to a PM I received (and i'm assuming most... if not all of you also received).

Hey, you barely know me, but you might have seen me around TL.net particularly the mafia game. This is just a PM to ask you to vote for me for mayor, because that would rock. I'm sure you have your own ideas, but if you are undecided and don't know whom to vote for, please consider me, randombum. Here are some reasons as to why I would be a good choice.
1: I spend far too much time at home, so I will always have time to check tl.net and do the double lynch if the town asks.
2: I will always double lynch if town asks (a good thing)
3: I will be taking an active role trying to figure out clues and this way I will be able to willingly post them without fear of mafia taking me out.
4: I took the time to write this pm to you hoping to convince you so you do not have to look though pages of spam in the actual thread.

Thanks, randombum


Now there are two things to notice here... firstly randombum's first point.

He states that he spends far too much time at home... and will always have time to tl.net. He's implying that he'll be very active throughout the game... Where is he now however?
I can't remember the last time I saw a post from him...
He didn't vote this day...
He abstained yesterday (when a mafia was lynched)...
Day 5 was curiously absent of a randombum vote.
Day 4 was yet another abstention.
Day 3 was the day of inforced voting, and randombum voted as required... So i'll stop here.

Next... look at his 4th point. "so you do not have to look though pages of spam in the actual thread" So randombum doesn't want us to read what is said on the thread? Interesting.

Picture i'm trying to paint here is of a person, whose status is unknown, who after an impassioned mayoral campaign (which he narrowly lost) has done exactly what he needs to do to escape notice. I wouldn't have noticed either, if it were not for the curious contrast between his mayoral promises and his observable behavior.
for someone who doesn't turn up to debate tournaments you're one to talk haha

anyway, check out the voting thread for mayor... Empyrean was essentially in as pardoner (and safe as a detective). I think mafia wanted to stop someone with an important role like empy from getting in and have 6 BG protection.. thus 4 of them (queasy + albino and the suspects clazziquai/0zc7c) bumped Randombum over the top right at the end (some switching from empy to him) and hence i don't think he's mafia (but those last 4 are)
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 27 2008 08:56 GMT
#5155
Plexa... would you mind elaborating why you have 40% confidence of infundibulum's guilt when you couldn't find any clues relating to him?
his hat links very nicely to californian mountainsnake
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April 27 2008 09:06 GMT
#5159
On April 27 2008 17:58 Alethios wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2008 17:48 Plexa wrote:
On April 27 2008 17:42 Alethios wrote:
This hasn't been pointed out yet, but Randombum's role of pardoner only really has one purpose:

To stop a lynching when it has been swayed by the mafia.

To be honest, pardons will only become important towards the end of a game... when a full team of active mafia might be able to sway a vote away from one of them onto a townie (assuming many town are inactive).

"33 of 85 possible votes [were] accounted for" in the last round of voting at the time 14 mafia were alive. Think about that... if all the mafia voted.. they'd make up near 50% of the vote count.

It isn't hard to imagine all voting for one person (now that all detectives are dead), add a bit of bandwagoning in there... and... dead townie.

Thus, it's going to be important later for randombum to use his pardons if it becomes obvious a person is innocent yet to be lynched.

However, if randombum uses or had used his power before such a situation occured, he would instantly be a prime suspect of protecting mafia.

Unfortionately, under Chuiu's current system of voting... a pardoner has very little time to react and use his pardon. A pardoner would need to be active... yet randombum isn't... which leads me on to my next point nicely.

------------

Does everybody remember the mayoral elections? Our two main candidates were Ace and Randombum. The two had similar ideas about how to lead the town to victory... with Ace winning out in the end because he came up with many of them.

I'd like to draw your attention to a PM I received (and i'm assuming most... if not all of you also received).

Hey, you barely know me, but you might have seen me around TL.net particularly the mafia game. This is just a PM to ask you to vote for me for mayor, because that would rock. I'm sure you have your own ideas, but if you are undecided and don't know whom to vote for, please consider me, randombum. Here are some reasons as to why I would be a good choice.
1: I spend far too much time at home, so I will always have time to check tl.net and do the double lynch if the town asks.
2: I will always double lynch if town asks (a good thing)
3: I will be taking an active role trying to figure out clues and this way I will be able to willingly post them without fear of mafia taking me out.
4: I took the time to write this pm to you hoping to convince you so you do not have to look though pages of spam in the actual thread.

Thanks, randombum


Now there are two things to notice here... firstly randombum's first point.

He states that he spends far too much time at home... and will always have time to tl.net. He's implying that he'll be very active throughout the game... Where is he now however?
I can't remember the last time I saw a post from him...
He didn't vote this day...
He abstained yesterday (when a mafia was lynched)...
Day 5 was curiously absent of a randombum vote.
Day 4 was yet another abstention.
Day 3 was the day of inforced voting, and randombum voted as required... So i'll stop here.

Next... look at his 4th point. "so you do not have to look though pages of spam in the actual thread" So randombum doesn't want us to read what is said on the thread? Interesting.

Picture i'm trying to paint here is of a person, whose status is unknown, who after an impassioned mayoral campaign (which he narrowly lost) has done exactly what he needs to do to escape notice. I wouldn't have noticed either, if it were not for the curious contrast between his mayoral promises and his observable behavior.
for someone who doesn't turn up to debate tournaments you're one to talk haha

anyway, check out the voting thread for mayor... Empyrean was essentially in as pardoner (and safe as a detective). I think mafia wanted to stop someone with an important role like empy from getting in and have 6 BG protection.. thus 4 of them (queasy + albino and the suspects clazziquai/0zc7c) bumped Randombum over the top right at the end (some switching from empy to him) and hence i don't think he's mafia (but those last 4 are)

Firstly... my apologies about the tournament, I had signed up and all... unfortunately something came up. How did you do?

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Granted, the mafia would prefer a non-detective with bodyguard protection with the position of pardoner... but they essentially only had one other option at that point anyway... randombum... furthermore... why wouldn't they want one of their own in that position?
simple- easy target... randombum could be easily role checked by the detectives and they would lose an easy mafia. remember that no mafia ran for mayor last game

On April 27 2008 18:00 Alethios wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2008 17:56 Plexa wrote:
Plexa... would you mind elaborating why you have 40% confidence of infundibulum's guilt when you couldn't find any clues relating to him?
his hat links very nicely to californian mountainsnake

I was hoping you could specifically say how it relates.
firstly, note that when cali was introduce he took off his hat as he bowed (note the hate)
secondly look at the makeup of the hat - perfect for goring/slicing
thirdly notice that he threw something at dimsab (the spinning blind off the hat perhaps?)
fourthly "weapon of choice" ties into the had as does the slashing

i do think SMB is a stronger candidate, but this is too much to look over in such a small group
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April 27 2008 11:06 GMT
#5162
On April 27 2008 20:02 qrs wrote:
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On April 27 2008 17:32 Plexa wrote:
also note that qrs has been resistant to Ace/Town since Day 0 and generally annoying to everyone involved.

Can't comment on the generally annoying part--sorry, I guess--but what is "resistant to Town" supposed to mean? I've voted, commented if I thought some clue interpretation was convincing/unconvincing. What else is a good townie supposed to do?
exactly that hence why your low on the suspicion list
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April 29 2008 06:30 GMT
#5178
On April 29 2008 15:24 MTF wrote:
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On April 29 2008 04:53 Ace wrote:
agreed. Lynch Sureshot next.


I fully support this, provided that Day (whenever Mafia kindly decides to get into gear again) doesn't provide us strong evidence against one of the people on the Showtime! list or points to somene not suresh0t.
I disagree, im not convinced of sureshot unless the day post point conclusively to him.. i would much rather explore DamageControl
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April 29 2008 06:52 GMT
#5180
On April 29 2008 15:44 MTF wrote:
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On April 29 2008 15:30 Plexa wrote:
On April 29 2008 15:24 MTF wrote:
On April 29 2008 04:53 Ace wrote:
agreed. Lynch Sureshot next.


I fully support this, provided that Day (whenever Mafia kindly decides to get into gear again) doesn't provide us strong evidence against one of the people on the Showtime! list or points to somene not suresh0t.
I disagree, im not convinced of sureshot unless the day post point conclusively to him.. i would much rather explore DamageControl


I'm fairly convinced of suresh0t (plus he's in Mandalor, which is pretty much 25% chance of being right by just guessing at this point), but I would also fully support DamageControl being put to the gallows.

Something to note: No matter who we kill tomorrow, if we hit Mafia or not, and Ace is roleblocked, we can not bring down their killing power. As such, seeing as we only have one vote, it may be wiser to target a suspect from the Mandalor list (1/4 Mafia) instead of someone in the Non-Mandalor list (1/10-1/13). Because even if we miss and suresh0t turns up green, we further tighten the noose around those in the Mandalor list.

Even so, I'd support DamageControl being lynched, seeing as I've repeatedly said I believe your interpretation was very strong, just as I'd support suresh0t. Both of them are Mafia in my eyes, but I'm more strongly inclined by DamageControl's clues and yet swayed also by suresh0t's position in the lists.

I'll pick more decisively which of the two (or someone completely new) when Day comes.
I still think there is enough doubt surrounding sureshot to warrant a stalling until we get some more clues.
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April 29 2008 08:30 GMT
#5182
On April 29 2008 17:05 Ace wrote:
I was joking about sureshot

With only 1 critical vote no matter what tomorrow, I say we go for the Mandalor list and pick from there. By now we have a great amount of info on who is innocent on that list, and I'm sure we can easily hit a mafia target at will by now.
you make it sound easy~~

clazziquai
ZBiR
suresh0t
Lysithea
Ninja4ever
SoleSteeler
Jimtudor
zeks
SoMuchBetter
ieatkids5

may i suggest SMB, ieatkids or clazziquai
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April 29 2008 10:15 GMT
#5188
as a strategic lynch i'd like to see SMB rot as well, he's active on the site (really active), avoids this thread, and is a big candidate for cali

Clazz i think is best saved for a double lynch with 0zc7c
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April 29 2008 11:31 GMT
#5190
fair enough, it's not like we're running short of people to lynch - its more about who's the best candidate to knock off XD
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Last Edited: 2008-04-30 09:13:27
April 30 2008 08:59 GMT
#5208
+ Show Spoiler [eddie] +
Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner".

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help.

Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat.

As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him Frenh_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.

Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help"

Lenwe snatched up the piece of rebar and Mr. Red retreated to the new threat he posed. Eddie wasn't afraid to take on Lenwe, however, and charged strait at him grabbing the steel bar right out of his hand and knocking him to the ground with it. A few well placed blows and Lenwe was dead as well.

he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them.

They were just starting to get into it when Eddie cut their fun short by shooting decafchicken with his own gun and they all retreated quickly.

Eddie went down the long list of townspeople and selected a bunch for his mafia to handle. Once his orders were out they got right to work.

Finally he got up and asked why there were no other customers. The Wolf pointed to the door where Eddie stood, Last Romantic noticed it was locked up and the lights on the front were off. He took it that the bar was closing and he should leave so he got up and headed to Eddie expecting him to open the door but Eddie stopped him instead and pointed back at The Wolf.
Traits
- I feel that that strongest clue here is to do with plan conception/something to do with formulating a plan
-- The Wolf was waiting inside the cleverly disguised building...
-- Once his orders were out they got right to work...
-- etc
- Although there also is a nice connection between shoot and retreat
(- Initially he got lucky shots in)
(- Later posts reveal skill in what he does)

+ Show Spoiler [Joe] +
"Just let us go, you can run things however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there.

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you".

Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Joe kept a tight grip as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice.

Smiling from the roof of the gas station Joe was ready to make his kill. It was all planned out, Naib would exit after he closed the store and Joe would jump him from above and knock him out cold instantly then hang him from the wall. Unfortunately for Joe he hadn't expected Naib to exit out the back of the building. He was quite confused as he saw Joe getting into his car parked on the side so he ran over and jumped onto the top of the car causing a huge indentation. Naib got out of his car as fast as he could to see Joe standing up. Joe then kicked Naib in the face, being in the perfect spot to do so and looked inside Naib's car for a weapon to use. He found a glass bottle and broke off the end of it. As Naib was getting up he slashed him repeatedly with the end of the bottle and kicked him back to the ground. Joe finished Naib off by stabbing him through the heart with the jagged end of the bottle.
Traits
- Joe is all about foiled plans
-- It was all planned out... (most recent day)
-- Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort...
-- "he was supposed to kill you"...
-- either you're with us or you're permanently not...
-> Find the corresponding link and we have joe

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blonde] +
He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground.

He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead.

With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown.

He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot.

Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look.

"Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building.

They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground.


G.s)NarutO was doing monk things in his monk place with his monk friends when he decided it was late and he wanted to go to sleep. On the way to his room he encountered Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde mocked G.s)NarutO for his failed attempts at helping the town and then pulled out a gun to kill him. G.s)NarutO wasn't ready to give up on life completely though and thought he could redeem himself by taking out this man for the town. He charged towards Mr. Blonde and tried to grab his gun but Mr. Blonde was a bit faster to respond and shot him twice in the leg. He finished it by shooting G.s)NarutO in the head and made his escape through a window before getting caught by a horde of monks.
Traits
- Very strong and agile (able to evade)
- Multiple instances of people charging and Mr Blonde shooting them before they can react
- Note while ninja's are a likely suspect, the clue above is worth investigating

+ Show Spoiler [Cottonmouth] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm.

NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.

He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him.

Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104

Cottonmouth found Klive5ive walking to his friend house down the street and began his attack. He threw one stone at Klive5ive's back to get his attention, then when he had it he threw another two at him. Klive5ive dodged the next two and started picking up the stones to chuck back at Cottonmouth. Unfortunately Cottonmouth already had some more ready, throwing four more stones at Klive5ive. Klive5ive was severely bruised at this point and he struggled to throw back the stones with much strength. Cottonmouth threw three more stones at Klive5ive's right arm and three at his left arm in effort to disable him. With Klive5ive unable to defend himself Cottonmouth took two last stones and smashed them into Klive5ive's skull.
Traits
- Its not the numbers... 15 weapons each day
- Each day is a different set of weapons -> someone with a name connection to set

+ Show Spoiler [Snake Charmer] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door.

Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.
Traits
- Slashing and associated with the sword

+ Show Spoiler [Mr White] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door.

He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.

Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look.

"I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building.

But just as soon as he did Mr. White smashed another pipe laying around in the back of xDark.Carnivalx's head. Another couple blows and xDark.Carnivalx was dead.

Mr. White was last up that night. He encountered JoxxOr going out for a very early morning jog. He tripped JoxxOr using a wire he hid along the sidewalk and then used it as a choking device. JoxxOr struggled to get free as Mr. White pulled the wire tighter against his throat and suffocated him. It was a cruel death for JoxxOr.
Traits
- Favors attacking the head
- Last entry is a common theme

+ Show Spoiler [The Wolf] +
The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head.

The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later.

He met gaze with The Wolf who was carrying some more debris from the building. Caller rolled to his right trying to dodge an attack from The Wolf but wasn't fast enough and took a vicious blow to the chest. He rolled to the side and started searching around for a weapon of his own as he jumped up from the ground.

Last Romantic was driving around looking for a bar still open late night when he finally found one, or thought he did. The Wolf was waiting inside the cleverly disguised building and had a gun ready for ambush. As Last Romantic walked in he approached The Wolf and ordered a drink. The Wolf served him and a minute or two passed by before he realized the bar was completely empty except for him and The Wolf. Finally he got up and asked why there were no other customers. The Wolf pointed to the door where Eddie stood,

Eddie stopped him instead and pointed back at The Wolf. Finally The Wolf ended the charade and shot Last Romantic in the head.
Traits
- One shot kill is the main theme

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Brown] +
As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring.

Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.

Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying.

He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull.

Mr. Brown opened the door and he and Mr. Pink walked out.

Mr. Brown landed punch after punch on AcrossFiveJulys who was doing poorly to defend himself.

AcrossFiveJulys was laying on the ground dead also, beaten to death by Mr. Brown and he accompanies Mr. Pink back into the building humming a little tune to get his mind off the violence.
Traits
- Indecipherable
- Find the player linking to that and we have a winner

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Black] +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now.

Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life.

he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him.

Mr. Black approached the last target for the night, GrayArea. He found him taking out the trash before going to bed that night and ambushed him as he headed back. Throwing some foul smelling bones from the trash at GrayArea he got his attention. GrayArea saw what was left of the dinner he caught on the ground and no sooner did he notice Mr. Black than was he already being attacked by him. Mr. Black drove a knife through GrayArea's arm and it sent him flinching back. He grabbed his arm and ran back towards the house to try to get help or call the cops. But Mr. Black sprinted after him and stabbed again in his back. GrayArea convulsed from the attack and fell to the ground. GrayArea had no escape at this point and Mr. Black finished him off by stabbing him through the heart from the back to finish him.
Traits
- Connected with stopping things in their tracks
- I still beleive he is DamageControl
-- JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee... (controlling damage)
-- "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well"
-- He grabbed his arm and ran back towards the house to try to get help or call the cops. But Mr. Black sprinted after him and stabbed again in his back...
- The connection is obvious and strong

+ Show Spoiler [Enigma] +
Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"

The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can".

Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground.

he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him.
Traits
- "Ugly look" seems rather pivotal
- Charging

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Pink] +
"Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans.

Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock.

He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after

OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.

He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull.

Mr. Brown opened the door and he and Mr. Pink walked out. "I hope you guys were looking for trouble because you just found it" said Mr. Pink and they both threw punches at their respective targets.

Zeks put up a bit of a fight as he took on Mr. Pink, but Mr. Pink was determined to make him feel some pain. He finally got him into a corner and pulled out a can and a lighter. Mr. Pink emptied the contents of the can onto Zeks and lit him on fire. Zeks tried to put the fire out by rolling on the ground but it kept burning. He was about to get up and pull off his clothes but Mr. Pink decided he had suffered enough and knocked Zeks unconscious and let him burn to death.
Traits
- Quite clearly he is sadistic
- I'd like to call Nightmare a suspect but theres multiple things linking to pink here;
-- His quote about pain/suffering somewhat relates
-- However, I'd like to propose that each character goes through their own individual "nightmare" before dying
--> Zeks tried to put the fire out by rolling on the ground but it kept burning...
--> He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him...
--> Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy...
--> Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head...
--> As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock...
-- I feel that that connection is quite strong

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blue] +
Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out.

Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind.

Mr. Blue was first up, and he was outside the house of fusionsdf. He noticed him in the living room and decided to try to sneak in from the back. All windows locked he tried the back door. When he was left with no other option he decided to kick in the door which alerted fusionsdf. He ran to the back of his house to see Mr. Blue coming in. fusionsdf knew exactly what was going on and grabbed an umbrella that was sitting by the door. He stabbed at Mr. Blue and flailed at him trying to fight him off but Mr. Blue evaded the blows and grabbed hold of the umbrella and yanked it out of fusionsdf's hands. He broke the handle hitting fusionsdf over the head with it and discarded it. fusionsdf dived forward and tackled Mr. Blue to the ground but Mr. Blue shoved him to the side and quickly got up. He grabbed up the umbrella again and stabbed down at fusionsdf. The tip was enough to do severe damage to fusionsdf, and he stabbed through his chest as if it were nothing. Pretty soon fusionsdf was dead from the beating.
Traits
- I think the connection to him being a noob is still pretty strong
- Note how the moment he touches the umbrella he breaks it (same with the chainsaw) -> connection to breaking stuff?
- Also note how he cannot kill with a decisive blow, instead wounds his opponent (chainsaw vs arm, umbrella vs chest)

+ Show Spoiler [Copperhead] +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape.

Copperhead found Falcynn working late at school on an essay. He saw him at a computer typing it up and crept up from behind. Copperhead grabbed his chair and wheeled him into a printer table off to the side knocking several things from the shelves onto him. Falcynn pushed himself away from it and got up to defend himself, he grabbed a pen which had fallen onto the ground and slashed upward with it at Copperhead. Copperhead grabbed a keyboard and used it as a shield, he deflected the pen and smashed it into Falcynn. He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head between the two keyboards.
Traits
- Choice clue is quite strong at this point
- Seems to be inconsistent in both days

+ Show Spoiler [California Mountain Snake] +
the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake.

He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead.

Joe kept a tight grip as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice. He sliced clean through aZnvaLiaNce in his chest, his gut, his arms and legs and pretty soon aZnvaLiaNce was a bloody mess, and they left him there to bleed out and die knowing he couldn't do a thing to save himself in the condition he was in.
Traits
- "Weapon of choice" potentially a sharp hat
- Repetition of "sliced clean" emphasis on the sharpness of the weapon
(- Ninja4eva?)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Orange] +
But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut.

Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house.

Meta had saw them and was running towards Mr. Orange and Black Mamba. "Why aren't you calling for help" asked Meta as he reached them. Mr. Orange shrugged and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help.

Mr. Orange finally put an end to his bellows and shot Meta in the head, ending his life.

useLess was sitting at home just watching TV when he heard a strange sound from outside his window. He went over to investigate and Mr. Orange jumped right through it and almost knocked useLess down as he flew past him. He quickly turned around and had useLess in a headlock. useLess struggled to free him self and stabbed at Mr. Orange with shards of glass. Mr. Orange broke off and flinched in pain. He grabbed a few shards of glass himself and stabbed through useLess's arms with them. Then to finish him off he made long gashes into useLess and left him to bleed to death.
Traits
- Recurring theme of screaming in pain/screaming for help
- Hasn't talked yet
- "Strange Sound" - its not english
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 30 2008 09:24 GMT
#5209
Couple profile changes:

Clazziquai;
QUOTE: "I am actually Korean. Not from Kiribati"
Originally: "me from kiribati. me no speak english. ^^"

SoleSteeler:
QUOTE: "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;"
Originally: N/A
(ie don't think he is a candidate for joe because of his quote)

Ninja4ever
IMAGE:
[image loading]

Originally: N/A
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 30 2008 10:28 GMT
#5210
+ Show Spoiler [Joe] +
"Just let us go, you can run things however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there.

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you".

Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Joe kept a tight grip as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice.

Smiling from the roof of the gas station Joe was ready to make his kill. It was all planned out, Naib would exit after he closed the store and Joe would jump him from above and knock him out cold instantly then hang him from the wall. Unfortunately for Joe he hadn't expected Naib to exit out the back of the building. He was quite confused as he saw Joe getting into his car parked on the side so he ran over and jumped onto the top of the car causing a huge indentation. Naib got out of his car as fast as he could to see Joe standing up. Joe then kicked Naib in the face, being in the perfect spot to do so and looked inside Naib's car for a weapon to use. He found a glass bottle and broke off the end of it. As Naib was getting up he slashed him repeatedly with the end of the bottle and kicked him back to the ground. Joe finished Naib off by stabbing him through the heart with the jagged end of the bottle.
Traits
- Joe is all about foiled plans
-- It was all planned out... (most recent day)
-- Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort...
-- "he was supposed to kill you"...
-- either you're with us or you're permanently not...
-> Find the corresponding link and we have joe

Well, after checking all profiles for some reference to strategy/planning and have no matches found- another thought struck my mind. Joe has lost his talent at formulating plans - they just aren't the same as they use to be for joe (as a character, as ca be seen explicitly in the most recent set of clues). Effectively joe, you have "LoStYouRSkiLLS" as a strategist
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Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-01 01:55:46
May 01 2008 01:51 GMT
#5219
On May 01 2008 09:58 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2008 18:24 Plexa wrote:
Couple profile changes:

Clazziquai;
QUOTE: "I am actually Korean. Not from Kiribati"
Originally: "me from kiribati. me no speak english. ^^"

SoleSteeler:
QUOTE: "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;"
Originally: N/A
(ie don't think he is a candidate for joe because of his quote)

Ninja4ever
IMAGE:
[image loading]

Originally: N/A


I've also changed my profile and quote since the server change, the old quote is still on araav's list.
But you're not a suspect ^^

oh yea, for the record if my controversial method is correct then LYS or lysithea is mafia
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 01 2008 02:17 GMT
#5222
On May 01 2008 11:12 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
whats LYS being accused of? i think i missed that post
personally, i feel that he is a candidate for Joe via his name

Others beleive his name is a reference to Mr Blue - quite plausible

And then there are others who haven't woken up to the more recent clues and beleive his quote links to Eddie
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 03 2008 11:04 GMT
#5253
sorry town...

Associate discovered conclusive proof that LYS was innocent but i was too slow in relaying that information
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 04 2008 09:44 GMT
#5271
i think we can make a case for lysithea based around the 'hybrid works' image ..
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 04 2008 10:44 GMT
#5274
On May 04 2008 19:07 MTF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2008 18:44 Plexa wrote:
i think we can make a case for lysithea based around the 'hybrid works' image ..


Unless we get someone in the Showtime! list through clues next Day, I wouldn't be very against lynching Lysithea. BlindAlbino defended him trying to convince Plexa that Evilmonkey was the one connected to the moon, there's still the moon reference which definitely stuck out, and there is the possibility of the Ali quote and/or the hybrid bit matching up with Pink. Plus, if he turns up red, we have yet another mafia that voted Randombum.
Theres also the matter of the controversial list which came to the conclusion that either LYS is red or Lysithea
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 04 2008 13:08 GMT
#5276
On May 04 2008 21:59 qrs wrote:
What is this "controversial list"?
oh it basically means that..
+ Show Spoiler [innocent] +
Pangolin
Naib
BWDero
SoleSteeler
(Last Romantic)
(Zeks)
Ahrara
0cz3c
and+ Show Spoiler [mafia] +

One of;
LostYourSkills vs Lysithea
STR vs NatsuTerran vs LTT

And increases the likelihood of
GeneralStan
Nightmare
infinity21

being mafia

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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 05 2008 02:51 GMT
#5282
On May 05 2008 03:20 Scorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2008 22:08 Plexa wrote:
On May 04 2008 21:59 qrs wrote:
What is this "controversial list"?
oh it basically means that..
+ Show Spoiler [innocent] +
Pangolin
Naib
BWDero
SoleSteeler
(Last Romantic)
(Zeks)
Ahrara
0cz3c
and+ Show Spoiler [mafia] +

One of;
LostYourSkills vs Lysithea
STR vs NatsuTerran vs LTT

And increases the likelihood of
GeneralStan
Nightmare
infinity21

being mafia


Huh? Where does this come from? I'd like to know how you pull such deductions out of your hat.
If i revealed it i would be laughed at pm me if you are really curious
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 05 2008 09:28 GMT
#5285
also add solesteeler to the this of innocents via list
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 06 2008 11:11 GMT
#5309
oh shit motherfucker

you're relying on me and associate now bitches!

+ Show Spoiler +
we're fucked...
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-06 12:06:14
May 06 2008 11:27 GMT
#5312
Seeing the passing of MTF makes me realise my time is limited too..

This is probably the most unsubstantiated lynch yet but in honor of the master of lists, fusionsdf, today we lynch GeneralStan, this is for you fusion <3

If you want rationale? Take this...
- Eddie is a leader, very similar to a general
- Many aspects about Eddies physique (ie night 2 and night 6(?)) match that of a soldier
- Many military references in all of the clues
- 'disarmed' in the most recent night
+ On Mandalor list
+ Strong mafia suspect by controversial list

Town, i ask this as a favor and just have faith with me on this...

+ denotes added in an edit
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Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-06 12:01:13
May 06 2008 11:58 GMT
#5314
On May 06 2008 20:54 Alethios wrote:
Vote thread is probably the wrong place to have a discussion. So here's what i said there.

I vote clazziquai

He votes to lynch a corpse... he's been a prime suspect before... he didn't react very well to the suspicion. Why aren't we lynching him now, and saving GeneralStan till tomorrow? Perhaps i've missed something?

As you say, GeneralStan is "probably the most ubsubstantiated lynch yet", so why lynch him now?
Because Alethios, there are strategical reasons in probing Chuiu's clue setting and well- i honestly feel that we'll have more luck with him than any of our suspects at the moment

He was fusionsdf's biggest suspect, and a suspect of mtf's as well - do it for those with no voice..

If my suspicions are correct then i have a feeling i'll be able to decipher alot more clues and get hard mafia. Clazziquai is mafia no doubt, and i'd rather leave the town with a lot of options to lynch once im dead than zero options. Yano, i could be dead tomorrow for all you know
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 06 2008 12:11 GMT
#5315
On May 06 2008 00:02 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2008 11:51 Plexa wrote:
On May 05 2008 03:20 Scorch wrote:
On May 04 2008 22:08 Plexa wrote:
On May 04 2008 21:59 qrs wrote:
What is this "controversial list"?
oh it basically means that..
+ Show Spoiler [innocent] +
Pangolin
Naib
BWDero
SoleSteeler
(Last Romantic)
(Zeks)
Ahrara
0cz3c
and+ Show Spoiler [mafia] +

One of;
LostYourSkills vs Lysithea
STR vs NatsuTerran vs LTT

And increases the likelihood of
GeneralStan
Nightmare
infinity21

being mafia


Huh? Where does this come from? I'd like to know how you pull such deductions out of your hat.
If i revealed it i would be laughed at pm me if you are really curious

You can't expect us to take your list seriously if you don't tell us what it's about. If the reason you don't post it is that you would be laughed at, it sounds like it's pretty shaky evidence.
Yea it is shakey evidence, its not concrete proof but its working out just fine atm.. there are mistakes and holes in it - its no perfect system! but it is a nice guideline for things
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 06 2008 12:58 GMT
#5317
On May 06 2008 21:14 Alethios wrote:
You say GeneralStan is a good option for a lynch, I believe you.

But you say you're certain Clazziquai is Mafia. Surely it's best not to give him another night to kill somebody then? Once that's done then we lynch Stan tomorrow?
I'm not certain clazziquai is mafia, well not as certain as i have been on earlier days... again the GS lynch gives valuable information for me to assess clazz on

basically what we have going for him is
- Connection to mr orange vs quote (he speaks no english)
- Joined the randombum mafia train at the end

Associate is working on alternate theories for Mr Orange as i type so we'll see what happens
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 06 2008 13:04 GMT
#5318
On May 06 2008 21:30 qrs wrote:
I vote clazziquai: Plexa and MTF have a decent track record, but if I don't know why I'm voting for someone, I don't vote for him.

so why are you voting clazziquai whos evidence is rather dubious ?
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 06 2008 23:25 GMT
#5336
I thought about this long and hard before i slept last night an i am convinced GeneralStan is mafia... namely eddie...

Firstly - remember MTF's analysis regarding "fire then retreat"? He linked it to jtan, which is fair enough... but its also a military tactical move - which coinsides with the fact generalstan is the general

Secondly - many many military references scattered about the clues

Thridly - Eddie is the leader, and for one it looks like the mafia staged somewhat of a military coup against Chuiu
The bitter truth set in their gut as they both stared down their ex-brethren. Chuiu and DapperDan were betrayed by their own comrades, and now their lives hanged on the balance.
hello!? isn't it screaming you in the face?

Fourthly - frequent reference to "his orders went out" - or something to that effect, ie once again a connection to him being a general

Fifthly - Eddie is an able fighter, strong and whatnot which once again coincides with the military connection

There are other minor points that i can't remember right at this moment but he definitly has the strongest case built for him for him being eddie - he incorporates every aspect of eddie not just one (as with jtan) so let's go with it... on top of that he is on the mandalor list which boosts his chances and on my controversial list... everything is stacked against him and i'm sure we've found a mafia...

It's in my best interest to kill mafia today as to reduce the chance of myself dying to mafia (becuase their kill count gets reduced) and i think that of all suspects GeneralStan is actually the most subtantiated.

I'm eager to hear your rebuttle
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Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-07 07:03:10
May 07 2008 07:02 GMT
#5339
On March 20 2008 01:32 GeneralStan wrote:
I change my vote from Ace to randombum

On March 20 2008 01:31 GeneralStan wrote:
Randombum is ahead! Good work guys!

On March 24 2008 06:46 GeneralStan wrote:
I vote Mandalor

On March 28 2008 10:50 GeneralStan wrote:
First vote Wurm
Second vote Ghar


And despite talking quite a bit after that, no votes

also he joined the randombum vote train right before L and BlindAlbino voted randombum
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 07 2008 07:26 GMT
#5341
Thnx Ace!
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 07 2008 08:19 GMT
#5343
seeing as we're set for today... who are we lynching on our double lynch!

im suggesting
DamageControl
SoMuchBetter
Dr.Dragoon

(in that order)

opinions?
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 07 2008 09:26 GMT
#5345
of course, but i mean we should still be talking about suspects if nothing more than to promote activity...

Associate has been thinking about jtan as Mr Blue for the lurker connection.. and its not without reason, there is plenty of room to say Mr Blue is a lurker but...
He gasped in horror and turned in retreat but found Mr. Blue in his way. MTF panicked, feeling his life in serious danger, and plowed through Mr. Blue toward his car. MTF was almost there when a flying object met contact with his neck and severed his head right off.
Seems to imply that MTF's head coming off was clean.. i beleive this is a reference to californian mountain snake... i wonder what that fucking object is -.-;
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-07 10:45:56
May 07 2008 10:45 GMT
#5347
[image loading]

Fail
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 07 2008 12:58 GMT
#5349
Let me draw your attention to this clue
Smiling from the roof of the gas station Joe was ready to make his kill. It was all planned out, Naib would exit after he closed the store and Joe would jump him from above and knock him out cold instantly then hang him from the wall. Unfortunately for Joe he hadn't expected Naib to exit out the back of the building. He was quite confused as he saw Joe getting into his car parked on the side so he ran over and jumped onto the top of the car causing a huge indentation. Naib got out of his car as fast as he could to see Joe standing up. Joe then kicked Naib in the face, being in the perfect spot to do so and looked inside Naib's car for a weapon to use. He found a glass bottle and broke off the end of it. As Naib was getting up he slashed him repeatedly with the end of the bottle and kicked him back to the ground. Joe finished Naib off by stabbing him through the heart with the jagged end of the bottle.
Okay, wtf at that bolded passage...
It reads as if jow 'flew' from the building to Naib's car (on the other side of the parking lot) or that joe dropped down onto Naib's car parked along side the building. When joe drops down he create "a huge indentation" which implies that he is heavy and then theres the bottle later on as a weapon..

Im looking at suspects like ZBiR (thug), JimTudor (ice hockey - team player?) for joe.. am i looking in the right plale?
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 08 2008 01:48 GMT
#5357
On May 08 2008 04:36 ZBiR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2008 21:58 Plexa wrote:
Let me draw your attention to this clue
Smiling from the roof of the gas station Joe was ready to make his kill. It was all planned out, Naib would exit after he closed the store and Joe would jump him from above and knock him out cold instantly then hang him from the wall. Unfortunately for Joe he hadn't expected Naib to exit out the back of the building. He was quite confused as he saw Joe getting into his car parked on the side so he ran over and jumped onto the top of the car causing a huge indentation. Naib got out of his car as fast as he could to see Joe standing up. Joe then kicked Naib in the face, being in the perfect spot to do so and looked inside Naib's car for a weapon to use. He found a glass bottle and broke off the end of it. As Naib was getting up he slashed him repeatedly with the end of the bottle and kicked him back to the ground. Joe finished Naib off by stabbing him through the heart with the jagged end of the bottle.
Okay, wtf at that bolded passage...
It reads as if jow 'flew' from the building to Naib's car (on the other side of the parking lot) or that joe dropped down onto Naib's car parked along side the building. When joe drops down he create "a huge indentation" which implies that he is heavy and then theres the bottle later on as a weapon..

Im looking at suspects like ZBiR (thug), JimTudor (ice hockey - team player?) for joe.. am i looking in the right plale?


ugh... just as I revealed what zbir means T_T
Yeah, thugs dent cars and use broken bottles... But it wasn't me!
just fyi - i already knew about the polish translation
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 09 2008 03:07 GMT
#5368
gogo chuiu
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-09 11:35:49
May 09 2008 11:34 GMT
#5382
fail?
ok fusionsdf's call was wrong... MTF suspects (as of his last pm to me)
+ Show Spoiler [nightmare] +
It may be worth the risk to hit Nightmare, anyway.

There's no kill change if we hit Mafia tonight or not, Nightmare is in the Showtime! list and if we miss, we at least narrow it down, and Nightmare is our current strongest suspect from such.

The benefits of trying him out (six innocents, four of which are also cleared from Mandalor list, confirmed if he's red or a reduction of one possibility out of a small seven if he's green) outweigh the benefits of going after a safer lynch to me.
+ Show Spoiler [damagecontrol] +
From what I've deduced, he hasn't been terribly active 'since he got his account in summer of last year. Yet, in the past week he's made 24 posts in other places around the site, and possibly an even more substantial number 'since the game started.

This activity combined with the clues, which I think are really strong, all told, convinces me.

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Original Message:
it got rushed with Queasy, Albino clazz and 0zc - all mafia haha

why are you so sure about damage control?
+ Show Spoiler [Bugzltoonl] +
There's just too much ambiguity fkor all these links to add up right now.

I think we really just have to wait for day to decide, even though I may or may not be around to help out.

anyway, I'm out for awhile.

G'night

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Original Message:
Bugs' accent is a mixture of the bronx and brooklyn..

The accent reminds me of copperheads :O and the fact the pocket was too large can be accoutned for by it being a cartoon :O

wtf?


oh and in the event that i die... + Show Spoiler +
MTF:
See if you can find the hidden message in the poem at the bottom of my blog post. :p

I'll give you a hint; it becomes relevant in the case of us both being dead.


i'll keep fishing for more of his suspects.. tomorrow in the double lynch we go back to basics and lynch some of the big candidates of the last couple days.. the GeneralStan lynch confirms my suspicion that all the clues are located within each characters profile and hence the clue in the most recent day post with someones head being sliced off does not refer to Californian Mountain Snake. This does put an interesting spin on that set of clues...

So while GS was a greenie we gained some strategical insight into further analysis.. i've got some other stuff coming along soon regarding a long time suspicion of mine that i talked over with MTF quite substantially that i might find time to type up - nemY already knows who it is
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Last Edited: 2008-05-09 12:17:11
May 09 2008 11:50 GMT
#5383
On May 09 2008 15:56 qrs wrote:
Well, I didn't think he was our strongest suspect, but it was worth a shot, I guess. Now we can go on to surer cases like
suresh0t (Wolf)
clazziquai (Orange)
ninja (Blonde)

right?
MTF from a pm about 1.5 weeks ago
Those I would feel safe killing right now:

DamageControl
Eti307
Ninja4ever.
ieatkids5
Clazziquai
suresh0t


Those I think we should wait another cycle on for more clues:

Ulszz (though we maybe should still act on him)
Dr.Dragoon
SoleSteeler
L (merely to give him that one last testable chance)
SoMuchBetter
ZBiR/str/someone else taunting me in my nightmares
Ozc3z


Those on the bottom other than L I just would feel safer taking out with another set of clues to them. The guys on top I feel already have very solid, secure cases against them. I don't have any particular suspects I disagree with other than ZBiR.


on that note i feel that Ninja is not mr blonde at this point, and ETI was disproved...

EDIT: upon re-reading the latest nights clues i have a feeling he could still be a ninja, although the shattering windows doesn't coincide with a ninja character, the fact that the whole event was done fast, accurately and with knives suggests that he is.
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Last Edited: 2008-05-09 11:54:56
May 09 2008 11:53 GMT
#5384
As of MTF's death, this was the list we agreed upon as suspects

Mr. Brown: Dr.Dragoon
Mr. Blue: ?
Mr. Pink: ?
Mr. Orange: Clazziquai #
Mr. Black: DamageControl
Eddie.: jtan
The Wolf.: suresh0t #
Mr Blonde.: Ninja4ever #
Copperhead.: 0zc3z #
Californian Mountain Snake.: SoMuchBetter #
CottonMouth.: ?
Joe.: ?

# means mandalor list
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Last Edited: 2008-05-09 13:09:58
May 09 2008 12:31 GMT
#5385
He gasped in horror and turned in retreat but found Mr. Blue in his way. MTF panicked, feeling his life in serious danger, and plowed through Mr. Blue toward his car. MTF was almost there when a flying object met contact with his neck and severed his head right off.



Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind.

Mr. Blue was first up, and he was outside the house of fusionsdf. He noticed him in the living room and decided to try to sneak in from the back. All windows locked he tried the back door. When he was left with no other option he decided to kick in the door which alerted fusionsdf. He ran to the back of his house to see Mr. Blue coming in. fusionsdf knew exactly what was going on and grabbed an umbrella that was sitting by the door. He stabbed at Mr. Blue and flailed at him trying to fight him off but Mr. Blue evaded the blows and grabbed hold of the umbrella and yanked it out of fusionsdf's hands. He broke the handle hitting fusionsdf over the head with it and discarded it. fusionsdf dived forward and tackled Mr. Blue to the ground but Mr. Blue shoved him to the side and quickly got up. He grabbed up the umbrella again and stabbed down at fusionsdf. The tip was enough to do severe damage to fusionsdf, and he stabbed through his chest as if it were nothing. Pretty soon fusionsdf was dead from the beating.
Slight chance that Mr Blue could be a lurker ala jtan?

+ Show Spoiler +
- _ - says:
He gasped in horror and turned in retreat but found Mr. Blue in his way. MTF panicked, feeling his life in serious danger, and
- _ - says:
OH WOW
- _ - says:
THAT ISNT OBVIOUS
- _ - says:
>.>
Plexa:
ya
- _ - says:
turned in retreat
- _ - says:
marine runing
- _ - says:
went into a lurker
- _ - says:
fk sake
- _ - says:
jtan is mr blue
- _ - says:
100% positive
associate think so so should you


also theres CDRdude's
avilo: Every now and then a lurker has to unburrow to reach a new position on the map, and become even more of a legend.


given he's on the showtime list... might be worth the gambit
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Last Edited: 2008-05-09 12:54:53
May 09 2008 12:50 GMT
#5387
list of wrestling moves;
E.Z. Money/Jason Jett
Money Clip, Catapult Somersault into Clothesline
Flying Moonsault Splash
Inverted crucifix powerbomb
Backflip Splash
Rope Handspring Back Elbow Smash
Pendulem of Pain, Arm/Leg Lifting Surfboard Stretch

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_wrestling_holds#Surfboard

sound familiar?

any wrestlers in the house camlito?+ Show Spoiler +
there are also numerous references to other wrestling acts like using a wrench to kill someone etc (all localised in mr orange btw)
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 09 2008 22:36 GMT
#5400
and i would lynch damage control and nightmare :3
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Last Edited: 2008-05-10 12:01:36
May 10 2008 12:00 GMT
#5405
I feel i have sufficient information to say a number of things regarding the dropping of clues based on what has transpired. The generalstan lynch was the final piece of information i required to complete this.

One thing to note about the clues is that all the characters that have been lynched so far have had a particular facet about them that is completely unique, or specific enough to make the link unique.

EvilMonkey was the only person in the list with a monkey reference
d.arkive was the only person in the list with a reference to "Direct Current" and the strange device carried around by Taipan
ieatkids was the only person with a reference to laziness
blindalbino was the only person with a reference to being blind
I dont' think theres any more need to keep naming mafia, because its pretty obvious

So what does this mean? Firstly, the lurker clue is invalidated (im 99% sure about this). Due to the overlap between jtan and CDRdude it means that lurkers are not a unique clue pointing to one person only. Now, if the lurker is indeed a clue there will be something else about Mr Blue's character which links definitely it to one or the other.

On to my next point, which may be rather obvious by now, those with obvious clue references (like spelt out for us) are not mafia...

Ghar was not mafia because the link between his picture and the action was blatantly obvious
Shadowdrgn was not mafia because the links to mr blonde were (at the time) inconsistent and too obvious
MidnightGladius was too obvious...
GeneralStan falls under the same category

Therefore in future we can avoid making the same mistake again...

Moving onto a similar point, if we search too deep we're just going to get confused and find links which are inconsistent. qrs has pointed out a number of these before they went bad, others have too which is good.

But what this means is that Scorch is undoubtedly not Mr Blue or Mr Pink - he could still be mafia (not likely) - but he's definitely not either character.

Lastly the clues are entirely located within the character text, ie relate to the specific character - not random phrases (as it was last game).

GeneralStan proves this conclusively as there were soo many military references throughout the clues yet he was not mafia.

As a corollary, the most recent Day post where someone's head gets taken off the object thrown was NOT thrown by Californian Mountain Snake hence applies to another character - and thats likely to be a pivotal clue to say the least.

Ill issue a list of suspects with all of these thoughts in mind sometime soon
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 10 2008 13:18 GMT
#5406
When analyzing these clues i tried to keep an open mind about me and try find better fits.. i think i have found a number although some of the old analysis still stands.


Mr Pink
+ Show Spoiler +
"Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans.

Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock.

He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after

OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.

He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull.

Mr. Brown opened the door and he and Mr. Pink walked out. "I hope you guys were looking for trouble because you just found it" said Mr. Pink and they both threw punches at their respective targets.

Zeks put up a bit of a fight as he took on Mr. Pink, but Mr. Pink was determined to make him feel some pain. He finally got him into a corner and pulled out a can and a lighter. Mr. Pink emptied the contents of the can onto Zeks and lit him on fire. Zeks tried to put the fire out by rolling on the ground but it kept burning. He was about to get up and pull off his clothes but Mr. Pink decided he had suffered enough and knocked Zeks unconscious and let him burn to death.
The highlighted passages pertain to Mr Pink loving pain. Indeed, i think we are all in agreement here.. so when we consider this idea of 'pain' a couple suspects jump out.. but note only in the last set of clues did we see 'pain' mentioned explicitly... thus upon my last examination of the profiles one stands out above rest..
[image loading]

that picture comes from RowdierBob and i feel is a pretty strong connection to Mr Pink... the alternative is Nightmare, which i don't think is that strong tbh...


Mr Blue
+ Show Spoiler +
Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out.

Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind.

Mr. Blue was first up, and he was outside the house of fusionsdf. He noticed him in the living room and decided to try to sneak in from the back. All windows locked he tried the back door. When he was left with no other option he decided to kick in the door which alerted fusionsdf. He ran to the back of his house to see Mr. Blue coming in. fusionsdf knew exactly what was going on and grabbed an umbrella that was sitting by the door. He stabbed at Mr. Blue and flailed at him trying to fight him off but Mr. Blue evaded the blows and grabbed hold of the umbrella and yanked it out of fusionsdf's hands. He broke the handle hitting fusionsdf over the head with it and discarded it. fusionsdf dived forward and tackled Mr. Blue to the ground but Mr. Blue shoved him to the side and quickly got up. He grabbed up the umbrella again and stabbed down at fusionsdf. The tip was enough to do severe damage to fusionsdf, and he stabbed through his chest as if it were nothing. Pretty soon fusionsdf was dead from the beating.

He gasped in horror and turned in retreat but found Mr. Blue in his way. MTF panicked, feeling his life in serious danger, and plowed through Mr. Blue toward his car. MTF was almost there when a flying object met contact with his neck and severed his head right off.
I'm still confident in my analysis regarding mr blue being incompetent, but i suppose that he didn't quite fit the idea of a noob. But now i think i've found an even stronger suspect
Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw.
Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind.
Mr Blue is doing something new and failing... i feel that this repeats throughout - but im too lazy to actually go through it all xD but yes, in the next set mr blue does something new and goes around the back to get in, and the umbrella breaking etc and stuff like that.. and then this quote sticks out at me..

A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new
ETI307 is indeed mafia and well, mr blue to be precise

Californian Mountain Snake
+ Show Spoiler +
the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake.

He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead.

Joe kept a tight grip as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice. He sliced clean through aZnvaLiaNce in his chest, his gut, his arms and legs and pretty soon aZnvaLiaNce was a bloody mess, and they left him there to bleed out and die knowing he couldn't do a thing to save himself in the condition he was in.

If all other connections run dry then this should be the answer.. Obviously its he's got something sharp and this;
[image loading]

coincides rather well with the description from the latest clue (but not the previous imo).. thus Ziel could possibly be mafia..



On top of those my other strong suspects which i've already talked about are;

DamageControl as mr Black
Clazziquai as mr orange
0cz3c as Copperhead
Dr.Dragoon as Mr Brown
jtan as eddie

+ my news ones
RowdierBob as Mr Pink
ETI307 as Mr Blue
Ziel as Californian Mountain Snake (or SMB)
i have other weak suspects but those are my strong ones
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 10 2008 20:04 GMT
#5411
On May 11 2008 00:37 jtan wrote:
ok

Plexa, your posts are good, but some connections are just very weak

I think the best strategy is to lynch people that voted mandalor and have some suspiciouns against them

I remade a list, I think it should be correct
+ Show Spoiler +

Ace
ShaLLoW[baY]
qrs
clazziquai
ahrara_
ZBiR
unsoundlogic
BWdero
Scorch
nemY
Eti307
suresh0t
randombum
Lysithea
Artanis[Xp]
Ninja4ever.
SoleSteeler
Romance_us
Plexa
RtS)Night[Mare
Jimtudor
GranDim
Alethios
NatsuTerran
0cz3c
Pangolin
SpiritoftheTuna
Unforgiven_ve
Energies
iNfuNdiBuLuM
SoMuchBetter
Camlito
fanatacist
SonuvBob
butidigress

35 in list
8 mafia

50 not in list
4 mafia


So you only have a 4/50= 8% chance of hitting a mafia outside the list and 8/35=23% in it

So the obvious strategy is to go for list people first
Yea some connections are weak (like Ziel) and ill openly admit that.. i have SoMuchBetter lined up as a stronger candidate imo...

The thing is, im privy to highly sensitive information and thus in my mandalor list i have ~16 people in it with 8 mafioso.. thats 50% hit ratio
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 10 2008 20:21 GMT
#5413
if i were mafia all the medics would be dead by now
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May 11 2008 00:21 GMT
#5417
On May 11 2008 05:38 SoleSteeler wrote:
I like the link for Mr. Pink, Plexa, the "life is pain" image.
thank you... upon seeing that image for the 1231231th time i finally felt a strong connection between the two..

nightmare's link falls down in the last few liens of his profile - esp the stuff like 'makes life bearable' and what not.. i just dont see the connection... however if rowdierbob is green well then nightmare is mafia no doubt
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Last Edited: 2008-05-11 02:09:56
May 11 2008 02:08 GMT
#5419
On May 11 2008 11:04 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2008 05:04 Plexa wrote:
The thing is, im privy to highly sensitive information...

Haha, I'm tired of people doing this. Ace was talking this way at the beginning and his privileged information turned out to be a double-edged sword at best. Now Plexa's doing the same thing: a mysterious "controversial list" that turns out to be worthless (General Stan) and now this "highly sensitive" information that he's supposedly privy to. I can't speak for the rest of the town--most of which seems to like bandwagoning--but as far as my vote goes, people's secret information does not factor into it.
my information consists of all the medics, veterans and confirmed townies via detective lists as well as the vigilantes (who are now useless)

would you like me to publish my list?

EDIT: in fact i'd go as far as to show you the lists if you were proven innocent.. ie find a person on the showtime list worthy of lynch, and if he comes up red then ill show you it
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 11 2008 02:19 GMT
#5421
exactly my point
i've got a list with 50% mafioso thus all my suspects from mandalor have about a 1 in 2 chance of being correct

now qrs, who is guilty from your list?
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 11 2008 02:27 GMT
#5424
Suspects (1 is mafia)

08-CDRdude
Display Name : CDRdude
Birthday :  
Country : United States
Joined : Sunday, 27th of May 2007
Quote : avilo: Every now and then a lurker has to unburrow to reach a new position on the map, and become even more of a legend.
Name Meaning:
Clues:
Image:

Display Name : nemY
Birthday : February 15, 1987
Country : United States
Joined : Sunday, 23rd of July 2006
Quote :  
Name Meaning:
Clues:
Image: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


34-RtS)Night[Mare
Display Name : RtS)Night[Mare
Birthday : June 05, 1988
Country : Mexico
Joined : Thursday, 23rd of December 2004
Quote : <3 the tl.net community
Name Meaning: nightmare
Clues:
Image: South Park character (of himself) [image has since changed]
Profile: Pain makes one suffer.
Suffering makes one think.
Thinking makes one wise.
And Wisdom makes life bearable.

48-qrs
Display Name : qrs
Birthday :  
Country :  
Joined : Thursday, 27th of December 2007
Quote : It requires a very unusual mind to undertake the analysis of the obvious. --Alfred North Whitehead
Name Meaning:
Clues:
Image:

51-araav
Display Name : araav
Birthday : June 19, 1979
Country : Armenia
Joined : Wednesday, 29th of September 2004
Quote : The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
Name Meaning:
Clues:
Image:
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85-ahrara_
Display Name : ahrara_
Birthday :  
Country : Afghanistan
Joined : Tuesday, 26th of February 2008
Quote : Running 8 min of T in the LOC.
Name Meaning:
Clues:
Image: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
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Last Edited: 2008-05-11 02:36:39
May 11 2008 02:35 GMT
#5426
On April 30 2008 16:18 MTF wrote:
Joe:

Evidence to Support Unforgiven Possibly Being Joe:

- All links are being drawn from Unforgiven's profile picture.
- Joe is generally supportive and gives a thumbs up.
- Joe is smiling in the last Day post
- Joe may be short. See:

Show nested quote +
he ran over and jumped onto the top of the car causing a huge indentation. Naib got out of his car as fast as he could to see Joe standing up. Joe then kicked Naib in the face, being in the perfect spot to do so


Also note that Joe needed help getting Queasy into his car and that Chuiu did not specify where aznvaliance was grabbed when Joe grabbed him from behind.

Mr. Pink:

I think everyone who was pointing at Nightmare may have been correct. See:

Show nested quote +
Zeks put up a bit of a fight as he took on Mr. Pink, but Mr. Pink was determined to make him feel some pain. He finally got him into a corner and pulled out a can and a lighter. Mr. Pink emptied the contents of the can onto Zeks and lit him on fire. Zeks tried to put the fire out by rolling on the ground but it kept burning. He was about to get up and pull off his clothes but Mr. Pink decided he had suffered enough and knocked Zeks unconscious and let him burn to death.


Pain makes one suffer.
Suffering makes one think.
Thinking makes one wise.
And Wisdom makes life bearable.

Summation: Pink wants to cause pain and does so. Zeks feels pain and tries to put out the fire, but fails and thus suffers. He then comes to the conclusion after such suffering (thinking -> wisdom) to take off his clothing to stop the burning, which might be construed as making life bearable. Pink judges he's had enough suffering and knocks him unconscious.

His posting record seems fairly pro-town with some analysis here and there, but then again, that's exactly how I'd describe L's posts.

i like the analysis for joe while the analysis for mr pink i think was worthy of bing revived in light of my suspicion regarding rowdierbob
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 11 2008 02:35 GMT
#5427
On May 11 2008 11:34 jtan wrote:
How do you know 1 of those is mafia?
showtime list
8 people voted for showtime detective revealed one mafioso
ulszz is dead, hence 1/7
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 11 2008 02:47 GMT
#5428
analyzing alone is not fun why did they have to kill mtf
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Last Edited: 2008-05-11 03:23:34
May 11 2008 03:22 GMT
#5429
Case for Unforgiven being mafioso

Exhibit A
noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone.
We note this peculiar phrase, and implies that the driver of the vehicle must be doing something obscure while driving to be able to look for things

Exhibit B
"Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help,
Firstly we observe that he needs assistance carrying (a sick) person into the back of his car. And the fact that he acknowledges and appreciates it suggests that he needed the help.

Exhibit C
He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van.
Rather interesting choice of words "decided to be short". This coincides with the idea of Joe needing help to lift someone into his van

Exhibit D
Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind.
We note that he gives a thumbs up

Exhibit E
Smiling from the roof of the gas station Joe
We note that he is smiling

Exhibit F
Joe would jump him from above and knock him out cold instantly then hang him from the wall.
We notes that he in going to "jump" onto him rather than "drop" onto him

Exhibit G
he ran over and jumped onto the top of the car causing a huge indentation.
Once again joe jumps onto a car - obvious gaining some serious height if he is going to cause an indentation

Exhibit H
Naib got out of his car as fast as he could to see Joe standing up. Joe then kicked Naib in the face, being in the perfect spot to do so
We note that joe is in the perfect spot to kick him in the face - this again implies that he is short

Exhibit I
As Naib was getting up he slashed him repeatedly with the end of the bottle and kicked him back to the ground.
We note that joe can only attack naib once he is on the ground, when he tries to get up he is "kicked" back to the ground - this again coincides with the fact that he is short

[image loading]

This image fits every single aspect of joe's character without fail. He fits the car driver in having to do something weird to look for his friend. He fits the short description and the fact he needs help to lift someone into his car. He fits the idea that joe needs to 'jump' around. He fits the kick. He fits the smile and the thumbs up.

Unoforgiven absolutely has to be mafia
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 11 2008 04:07 GMT
#5432
On May 11 2008 13:05 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
wow.. plexa strikes again

Just curious, why am i not on your suspect list anymore? Last time i was 40% according to you and now nothing .
you still are a suspect (1/7th to be precise)
but that list is just so damn confusing when we got the showtime list me, fusionsdf, mtf and associate all were shocked because we hadn't picked of you as mafia..

im sure the link will come...
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Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 11 2008 04:45 GMT
#5434
o shit i did leave you off..

i'll put you back on it
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 11 2008 10:05 GMT
#5440
lol unforgiven your analysis falls down on the count that information comes from one section of the profile only

case in point; d.arkive
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every single clue from taipan snake pertained to that single picture - hence my accusation stands

On May 11 2008 18:21 nemY wrote:
-I don't see how Exhibit A has anything to relate to Unforgiven
Fair enough, but i ask you this - in the middle of the night can you really tell if someone is obviously looking for someone? I beleive if that bunny was driving then he would be serving over the road imo or similar.. i just thought it was particularly peculiar

-Exhibit B seems questionable to me. A normal person on his own would have trouble carrying a passed out individual of roughly the same size into the back seat of a car... unless he dragged him in or had help.
I do beleive that a normal sized person would have been able to drag his friend into the car without assistance - so why does joe need Lucas to help him? because he cant do it himself, its impossible

-Exhibit D doesn't make much sense if Unforgiven is a short rabbit, how could he give someone a thumb's up sign and hold someone else down from behind?
Note that there is no place where where the person was held by the rabbit - its plausible that the rabbit could still hold him - how can a penguin hold someone's legs? its flippers are incapable of holding legs? its somewhat of the same issue imo

-If Joe really is Unforgiven, than Unforgiven shouldn't have any way of being able to talk (since he's a bunny). If crazie-penguin couldn't talk, why should Unforgiven be able to?
That is an interesting point and quite frankly i don't have a complete answer for it... Blind Albino didn't talk - yet he was able to... Although given this sole flaw i still strongly feel that unforgiven is mafia and that the clues stacked against him are stronger than any other person in this game... i've been over the profiles so many times and im so certain about this - like d.arkive sure

+ Unforgiven is on the mandalor list (50% chance to kill) which always makes me more confident

Sadly I can't really offer anyone else as a potential alternative for Joe though

Case in point - he's the best fit

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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 11 2008 10:20 GMT
#5442
On May 11 2008 19:11 Bockit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2008 19:05 Plexa wrote:
i've been over the profiles so many times and im so certain about this - like d.arkive sure


Wasn't d.arkive the suicide bomber? Or did we have suspicions on him before he blew up..
The story is i had him linedup, fully analyzed and set to lynch
then decaf fucked up and said he checked out the people who voted for randombum and found no mafia (he actually checked butatlarge or visa versa) and of course d.arkive was on that list and we didn't lynch him.. that night (or the following night) d.arkive blew up
very annoying
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 12 2008 02:55 GMT
#5446
On May 12 2008 06:26 nemY wrote:
The d.arkive case is true, but to be fair, what could Chuiu do to tie in d.arkive as mafia? You ever head of a d.arkive? A name like Unforgiven could be tied to many things as well... honestly the more I think about it the more I can make the case for either Unforgiven or fanatacist as Joe. Looking at every confirmed + killed mafia suspect, they all were tied to ONLY ONE THING. You could still argue that fanatacist is Joe, but... i dunno what to think now.
Okay

case two: ieatkids5
plenty of clues regarding ieatkids; seriously! look at the plethora of clues you can extrapolate from his ID but insted he chose...
Procrastination - Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now.

there you go

unforgiven is mafia - i propose we lynch damagecontrol and unforgiven on our double lynch, im sure we'll see double red, if we see double green i quit
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 12 2008 04:55 GMT
#5448
its cool Chuiu
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Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 13 2008 06:50 GMT
#5472
Yo mofos
2 hits aint gunna stop Plexa!!
+ Show Spoiler +
From: Chuiu
Subject: Mafia 2
Date: 5/13/08 14:13
You were protected against two hits.
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Last Edited: 2008-05-13 07:17:08
May 13 2008 07:06 GMT
#5474
+ Show Spoiler [eddie] +
Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner".

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help.

Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat.

As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him Frenh_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.

Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help"

Lenwe snatched up the piece of rebar and Mr. Red retreated to the new threat he posed. Eddie wasn't afraid to take on Lenwe, however, and charged strait at him grabbing the steel bar right out of his hand and knocking him to the ground with it. A few well placed blows and Lenwe was dead as well.

he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them.

They were just starting to get into it when Eddie cut their fun short by shooting decafchicken with his own gun and they all retreated quickly.

Eddie went down the long list of townspeople and selected a bunch for his mafia to handle. Once his orders were out they got right to work.

Finally he got up and asked why there were no other customers. The Wolf pointed to the door where Eddie stood, Last Romantic noticed it was locked up and the lights on the front were off. He took it that the bar was closing and he should leave so he got up and headed to Eddie expecting him to open the door but Eddie stopped him instead and pointed back at The Wolf.

What he found was not normal to his eyes. Two men, Eddie and Mr. Orange were holding a man to the ground with their legs and pulling as hard as they could on his arms. MTF screeched to a stop and got out to help the man but it was too late and blood gushed all over the sidewalk as ~OpZ~ was literally disarmed.

Mr. Orange had the help of Eddie as he went after Vharox. They were following behind Vharox as he was leaving a bar late at night. Once Vharox got his door open Eddie came from behind and grabbed him in restraint. Mr. Orange smashed an empty beer bottle over Vharox's head and it shattered into pieces and made Vharox flinch back in pain. He broke free of Eddie and charged into Mr. Orange knocking him on his side. Eddie tried to restrain Vharox again but had no luck as he fought him back.
Traits
Eddie is such a vast character i need to digest the information more

+ Show Spoiler [Joe] +
"Just let us go, you can run things however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there.

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you".

Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Joe kept a tight grip as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice.

Smiling from the roof of the gas station Joe was ready to make his kill. It was all planned out, Naib would exit after he closed the store and Joe would jump him from above and knock him out cold instantly then hang him from the wall. Unfortunately for Joe he hadn't expected Naib to exit out the back of the building. He was quite confused as he saw Joe getting into his car parked on the side so he ran over and jumped onto the top of the car causing a huge indentation. Naib got out of his car as fast as he could to see Joe standing up. Joe then kicked Naib in the face, being in the perfect spot to do so and looked inside Naib's car for a weapon to use. He found a glass bottle and broke off the end of it. As Naib was getting up he slashed him repeatedly with the end of the bottle and kicked him back to the ground. Joe finished Naib off by stabbing him through the heart with the jagged end of the bottle.
Traits
Joe is a cute little wabbit by the name of Unforgiven

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blonde] +
He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground.

He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead.

With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown.

He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot.

Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look.

"Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building.

They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground.


G.s)NarutO was doing monk things in his monk place with his monk friends when he decided it was late and he wanted to go to sleep. On the way to his room he encountered Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde mocked G.s)NarutO for his failed attempts at helping the town and then pulled out a gun to kill him. G.s)NarutO wasn't ready to give up on life completely though and thought he could redeem himself by taking out this man for the town. He charged towards Mr. Blonde and tried to grab his gun but Mr. Blonde was a bit faster to respond and shot him twice in the leg. He finished it by shooting G.s)NarutO in the head and made his escape through a window before getting caught by a horde of monks.

Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth were at AmorVincitOmnia's convenience store right before closing. They wanted everyones attention right away so Mr. Blonde charged through the front door, a move that shattered all the windows. Inside AmorVincitOmnia was cashing Alventenie's purchase and they both immediately looked at Mr. Blonde shocked at what just happened. Both Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth ran towards them and stabbed each of them through the shoulders with a knife. Mr. Blonde had AmorVincitOmnia pinned up against a wall and Cottonmouth had Alventenie on another. AmorVincitOmnia pushed and shoved and tried to get free but Mr. Blonde stabbed three more knives into each arm and three into each leg. Then to finish him off he stabbed two more into AmorVincitOmnia's chest.
Traits
- Very strong and agile (able to evade)
- Multiple instances of people charging and Mr Blonde shooting them before they can react
- Note while ninja's are a likely suspect, the clue above is worth investigating

+ Show Spoiler [Cottonmouth] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm.

NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.

He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him.

Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104

Cottonmouth found Klive5ive walking to his friend house down the street and began his attack. He threw one stone at Klive5ive's back to get his attention, then when he had it he threw another two at him. Klive5ive dodged the next two and started picking up the stones to chuck back at Cottonmouth. Unfortunately Cottonmouth already had some more ready, throwing four more stones at Klive5ive. Klive5ive was severely bruised at this point and he struggled to throw back the stones with much strength. Cottonmouth threw three more stones at Klive5ive's right arm and three at his left arm in effort to disable him. With Klive5ive unable to defend himself Cottonmouth took two last stones and smashed them into Klive5ive's skull.

Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth were at AmorVincitOmnia's convenience store right before closing. They wanted everyones attention right away so Mr. Blonde charged through the front door, a move that shattered all the windows. Inside AmorVincitOmnia was cashing Alventenie's purchase and they both immediately looked at Mr. Blonde shocked at what just happened. Both Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth ran towards them and stabbed each of them through the shoulders with a knife.

Alventenie already exhausted from the day he had put up little resistance as Cottonmouth stabbed three knives in his other arm and each leg. Then stabbed five more in the shape of a pentagon and finally killed off Alventenie.
Traits
- 15 weapons a day.. how annoying

+ Show Spoiler [The Wolf] +
The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head.

The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later.

He met gaze with The Wolf who was carrying some more debris from the building. Caller rolled to his right trying to dodge an attack from The Wolf but wasn't fast enough and took a vicious blow to the chest. He rolled to the side and started searching around for a weapon of his own as he jumped up from the ground.

Last Romantic was driving around looking for a bar still open late night when he finally found one, or thought he did. The Wolf was waiting inside the cleverly disguised building and had a gun ready for ambush. As Last Romantic walked in he approached The Wolf and ordered a drink. The Wolf served him and a minute or two passed by before he realized the bar was completely empty except for him and The Wolf. Finally he got up and asked why there were no other customers. The Wolf pointed to the door where Eddie stood,

Eddie stopped him instead and pointed back at The Wolf. Finally The Wolf ended the charade and shot Last Romantic in the head.

The Wolf had been tracking his target for quite some time. His target, GranDim, had been driving around all over town in a white van. When he finally stopped at a gas station to get gas The Wolf got in position for the kill. He silently waited for GranDim to fill up his gas and pay for it then ambushed him right before he got back in his van. GranDim and The Wolf got in fist fight and it was soon obvious who was better trained for it. The Wolf whittled GranDim down with every punch and eventually knocked him out on the door of the van. To finish him off The Wolf searched the van for some drugs and gave GranDim overdoses of everything he could find.
Traits
- Cannot be Sureshot - i am 99% sure
- Once again, complicated character...

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Brown] +
As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring.

Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.

Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying.

He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull.

Mr. Brown opened the door and he and Mr. Pink walked out.

Mr. Brown landed punch after punch on AcrossFiveJulys who was doing poorly to defend himself.

AcrossFiveJulys was laying on the ground dead also, beaten to death by Mr. Brown and he accompanies Mr. Pink back into the building humming a little tune to get his mind off the violence.
Traits
- Indecipherable
- Find the player linking to that and we have a winner

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Black] +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now.

Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life.

he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him.

Mr. Black approached the last target for the night, GrayArea. He found him taking out the trash before going to bed that night and ambushed him as he headed back. Throwing some foul smelling bones from the trash at GrayArea he got his attention. GrayArea saw what was left of the dinner he caught on the ground and no sooner did he notice Mr. Black than was he already being attacked by him. Mr. Black drove a knife through GrayArea's arm and it sent him flinching back. He grabbed his arm and ran back towards the house to try to get help or call the cops. But Mr. Black sprinted after him and stabbed again in his back. GrayArea convulsed from the attack and fell to the ground. GrayArea had no escape at this point and Mr. Black finished him off by stabbing him through the heart from the back to finish him.
Traits
- Connected with stopping things in their tracks
- I still beleive he is DamageControl
-- JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee... (controlling damage)
-- "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well"
-- He grabbed his arm and ran back towards the house to try to get help or call the cops. But Mr. Black sprinted after him and stabbed again in his back...
- The connection is obvious and strong

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Pink] +
"Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans.

Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock.

He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after

OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.

He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull.

Mr. Brown opened the door and he and Mr. Pink walked out. "I hope you guys were looking for trouble because you just found it" said Mr. Pink and they both threw punches at their respective targets.

Zeks put up a bit of a fight as he took on Mr. Pink, but Mr. Pink was determined to make him feel some pain. He finally got him into a corner and pulled out a can and a lighter. Mr. Pink emptied the contents of the can onto Zeks and lit him on fire. Zeks tried to put the fire out by rolling on the ground but it kept burning. He was about to get up and pull off his clothes but Mr. Pink decided he had suffered enough and knocked Zeks unconscious and let him burn to death.

Another evening in the town of Liquidia but still the town was not safe. The town struggled to discover the identities of the remaining mafia whilst they pick off the best of them one by one. And Mr. Pink was about to continue that. He continued his long term trend of torturing those before he killed them off and his victim this night was omfghi2u2. Crouched over a sleeping omfghi2u2 he affixed several electrodes all over his body then walked over to box he had setup on a table nearby. One by one he activated each electrode and soon omfghi2u2 was awake and screaming in pain. He continued turning up the voltage more and more throwing out every bit of juice the machine had. After a few seconds, or what seemed like an eternity to omfghi2u2, he lost all bodily function and ceased to live.
Traits
- Sadism..
- Mr Pink is again a complex character and i need to digest the information better

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blue] +
Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out.

Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind.

Mr. Blue was first up, and he was outside the house of fusionsdf. He noticed him in the living room and decided to try to sneak in from the back. All windows locked he tried the back door. When he was left with no other option he decided to kick in the door which alerted fusionsdf. He ran to the back of his house to see Mr. Blue coming in. fusionsdf knew exactly what was going on and grabbed an umbrella that was sitting by the door. He stabbed at Mr. Blue and flailed at him trying to fight him off but Mr. Blue evaded the blows and grabbed hold of the umbrella and yanked it out of fusionsdf's hands. He broke the handle hitting fusionsdf over the head with it and discarded it. fusionsdf dived forward and tackled Mr. Blue to the ground but Mr. Blue shoved him to the side and quickly got up. He grabbed up the umbrella again and stabbed down at fusionsdf. The tip was enough to do severe damage to fusionsdf, and he stabbed through his chest as if it were nothing. Pretty soon fusionsdf was dead from the beating.

He gasped in horror and turned in retreat but found Mr. Blue in his way. MTF panicked, feeling his life in serious danger, and plowed through Mr. Blue toward his car. MTF was almost there when a flying object met contact with his neck and severed his head right off.

smurfingchobo was the last the mafia were after that night. He let his dogs out before going to bed and they started barking at something in the yard. Neither smurfingchobo nor the dogs could see who it was but they all heard him moving about. The barking came to a stop as blades met their mark on each dogs head killing them all. smurfingchobo took a few steps closer to see one of his dogs decapitated from Mr. Blue's blades when he soon met the same fate as they had.
Traits
- incompetence theme is pretty much dead
- Rwar can't find a connection..

+ Show Spoiler [Copperhead] +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape.

Copperhead found Falcynn working late at school on an essay. He saw him at a computer typing it up and crept up from behind. Copperhead grabbed his chair and wheeled him into a printer table off to the side knocking several things from the shelves onto him. Falcynn pushed himself away from it and got up to defend himself, he grabbed a pen which had fallen onto the ground and slashed upward with it at Copperhead. Copperhead grabbed a keyboard and used it as a shield, he deflected the pen and smashed it into Falcynn. He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head between the two keyboards.
Traits
- Choice clue is quite strong at this point
- Seems to be inconsistent in both days

+ Show Spoiler [California Mountain Snake] +
the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake.

He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead.

Joe kept a tight grip as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice. He sliced clean through aZnvaLiaNce in his chest, his gut, his arms and legs and pretty soon aZnvaLiaNce was a bloody mess, and they left him there to bleed out and die knowing he couldn't do a thing to save himself in the condition he was in.
Traits
- "Weapon of choice" potentially a sharp hat
- Repetition of "sliced clean" emphasis on the sharpness of the weapon
(- Ninja4eva?)

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Orange] +
But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut.

Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house.

Meta had saw them and was running towards Mr. Orange and Black Mamba. "Why aren't you calling for help" asked Meta as he reached them. Mr. Orange shrugged and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help.

Mr. Orange finally put an end to his bellows and shot Meta in the head, ending his life.

useLess was sitting at home just watching TV when he heard a strange sound from outside his window. He went over to investigate and Mr. Orange jumped right through it and almost knocked useLess down as he flew past him. He quickly turned around and had useLess in a headlock. useLess struggled to free him self and stabbed at Mr. Orange with shards of glass. Mr. Orange broke off and flinched in pain. He grabbed a few shards of glass himself and stabbed through useLess's arms with them. Then to finish him off he made long gashes into useLess and left him to bleed to death.

What he found was not normal to his eyes. Two men, Eddie and Mr. Orange were holding a man to the ground with their legs and pulling as hard as they could on his arms. MTF screeched to a stop and got out to help the man but it was too late and blood gushed all over the sidewalk as ~OpZ~ was literally disarmed.

Mr. Orange had the help of Eddie as he went after Vharox. They were following behind Vharox as he was leaving a bar late at night. Once Vharox got his door open Eddie came from behind and grabbed him in restraint. Mr. Orange smashed an empty beer bottle over Vharox's head and it shattered into pieces and made Vharox flinch back in pain. He broke free of Eddie and charged into Mr. Orange knocking him on his side. Eddie tried to restrain Vharox again but had no luck as he fought him back. Vharox started inching his way to his cell phone to call the cops when Mr. Orange was back on his feet this time with a more lethal weapon. He stabbed Vharox in the arm with the beer bottle and then again in the chest. Vharox fell to the ground and Mr. Orange finished him off with a few more well placed stabs.
Traits
- Recurring theme of a lack of sound
- Almost as if Mr Orange can't speak
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 13 2008 07:34 GMT
#5476
Associate presents; why Mr Blue is a lurker
Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. - No idea, maybe related to the marine?

Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw ( could relate to the lurk spine being quick and deadly, hence secrety, but i do not find thisstrong. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly Stim pack? and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm the marine nearly dodged the lurk spine, but just got hit?. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind.

Mr. Blue was first up, and he was outside the house of fusionsdf. He noticed him in the living room and decided to try to sneak in from the back Sneaking in? Lurking?. All windows locked he tried the back door. When he was left with no other option he decided to kick in the door which alerted fusionsdf. He ran to the back of his house to see Mr. Blue coming in. fusionsdf knew exactly what was going on and grabbed an umbrella that was sitting by the door. He stabbed at Mr. Blue and flailed at him trying to fight him off but Mr. Blue evaded the blows and grabbed hold of the umbrella and yanked it out of fusionsdf's hands. He broke the handle hitting fusionsdf over the head with it and discarded it lurker spines make marines lose there head in the death animation . fusionsdf dived forward and tackled Mr. Blue to the ground but Mr. Blue shoved him to the side and quickly got up Unburrowing . He grabbed up the umbrella again and stabbed down at fusionsdf. The tip was enough to do severe damage to fusionsdf, and he stabbed through his chest as if it were nothing Sharp lurk spines . Pretty soon fusionsdf was dead from the beating.

He gasped in horror and turned in retreat Marines retreating but found Mr. Blue in his way Ran into a lurker?. MTF panicked, feeling his life in serious danger, and plowed through Mr. Blue toward his car. MTF was almost there when a flying object met contact with his neck and severed his head right off. This may not be mr blue, but it could relate to the lurker spine coming from the ground

smurfingchobo was the last the mafia were after that night. He let his dogs out before going to bed and they started barking at something in the yard. Neither smurfingchobo nor the dogs could see who it was but they all heard him moving about Well, couldnt see it, it was moving about, lurking? burrowed? . The barking came to a stop as blades met their mark on each dogs head killing them all. smurfingchobo took a few steps closer to see one of his dogs decapitated from Mr. Blue's blades when he soon met the same fate as they had. More sharp connections
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 13 2008 07:40 GMT
#5477
todays lynches should be
1) DamageControl
before his death MTF stated that he had the same confidence in my findings with DC as he did with ieatkids - ieatkids was red and im sure DC is red too

2) unforgiven
very strong case against him as being joe, also suggested by MTF in an earlier post and im sure we'll see red here as well

vote for sureshot and we'll get green
vote for ninja and we'll get green
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 13 2008 07:45 GMT
#5479
On May 13 2008 16:40 Camlito wrote:
Ace, make sure we take time with who we vote for, we need to get a dual-red double lynch.

edit: or just listen to plexa.
nono i agree with this Camlito (possibly the best advice we've heard from you all game -.-)

I'm sure we'll find red in unforgiven and damagecontrol - but if others dont think so then speak up
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 13 2008 07:54 GMT
#5481
The evidence against Ninja is at an all time low, his attacks just don't seem like an authentic ninja. There are bigger underlying clues surround mr blonde which i am working on finding a connection to, but i'm sure he's not a ninja..

and i suppose you've seen this ace?
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=272&topic_id=67925#5429
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 13 2008 08:11 GMT
#5485
i dont think we have a good case against anyone else, at least not as good as unforgiven

jtan is an option thx to associate, i'd put him next in line, but i still feel that unforgiven has stronger clues pointing towards him...

last time i had a brainwave like this d.arkive got away and hurt us badly - i'd hate for that to happen again
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 13 2008 08:16 GMT
#5487
Rowdierbob ranks 4th on my list

My confidence in him dropped last night due to Chuiu explicitly saying that Mr Pink loved to cause pain.. it really made me wonder.. that (i guess) supports nightmare as pink - atm it's between those two
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 13 2008 08:33 GMT
#5489
yea and i don't blame you for that... mr pink has been one of the biggest enigmas all game..
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 13 2008 11:29 GMT
#5490
qrs may i inquire about your voting sureshot and ninja4ever?
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 13 2008 12:36 GMT
#5492
+ Show Spoiler +
He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. okay this could be a ninja

He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead.

With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock.(This also could be a ninja) As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow (ouch so much for ninja reflexes) as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown.

He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot. (odd ninja using a shotgun?)

Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look.

"Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building. (nothing really ninjaish from these paragraphs, Mr White's laziness shines through though)

They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. (loosely connected to ninja) xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground.


G.s)NarutO was doing monk things in his monk place with his monk friends when he decided it was late and he wanted to go to sleep. On the way to his room he encountered Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde mocked G.s)NarutO for his failed attempts at helping the town (oh so how very not ninja) and then pulled out a gun to kill him. (not ninja) G.s)NarutO wasn't ready to give up on life completely though and thought he could redeem himself by taking out this man for the town. He charged towards Mr. Blonde and tried to grab his gun but Mr. Blonde was a bit faster to respond and shot him twice in the leg. He finished it by shooting G.s)NarutO in the head (very non-ninjaish imo) and made his escape through a window before getting caught by a horde of monks.

Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth were at AmorVincitOmnia's convenience store right before closing. They wanted everyones attention right away (woah hold up, stealthy ninja wanting attention?) so Mr. Blonde charged through the front door, (odd for a ninja) a move that shattered all the windows. Inside AmorVincitOmnia was cashing Alventenie's purchase and they both immediately looked at Mr. Blonde shocked at what just happened. Both Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth ran towards them and stabbed each of them through the shoulders with a knife. Mr. Blonde had AmorVincitOmnia pinned up against a wall and Cottonmouth had Alventenie on another. AmorVincitOmnia pushed and shoved and tried to get free but Mr. Blonde stabbed three more knives into each arm and three into each leg. Then to finish him off he stabbed two more into AmorVincitOmnia's chest.(don't ninja's generally kill fast?)
imo enoguh doubt from those passages to question whether Mr blond actually is a ninja or not...

+ Show Spoiler +
The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head. (this does apply to SS)

The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. (again this can apply to SS)

He met gaze with The Wolf who was carrying some more debris from the building. Caller rolled to his right trying to dodge an attack from The Wolf but wasn't fast enough and took a vicious blow to the chest. He rolled to the side and started searching around for a weapon of his own as he jumped up from the ground. (this gets a little more deviant from the norm, i suppose it's loosely conencted)

Last Romantic was driving around looking for a bar still open late night when he finally found one, or thought he did. The Wolf was waiting inside the cleverly disguised building and had a gun ready for ambush. As Last Romantic walked in he approached The Wolf and ordered a drink. The Wolf served him and a minute or two passed by before he realized the bar was completely empty except for him and The Wolf. Finally he got up and asked why there were no other customers. The Wolf pointed to the door where Eddie stood, (this is very strange for the wolf - but we note on all occasions thus far the wolf has ambushed, or stepped out from no where to approach his victims)

Eddie stopped him instead and pointed back at The Wolf. Finally The Wolf ended the charade and shot Last Romantic in the head. (SS yes...)

The Wolf had been tracking his target for quite some time. His target, GranDim, had been driving around all over town in a white van. When he finally stopped at a gas station to get gas The Wolf got in position for the kill. He silently waited for GranDim to fill up his gas and pay for it then ambushed him right before he got back in his van. GranDim and The Wolf got in fist fight and it was soon obvious who was better trained for it. The Wolf whittled GranDim down with every punch and eventually knocked him out on the door of the van. To finish him off The Wolf searched the van for some drugs and gave GranDim overdoses of everything he could find. (coincides with observation in the previous clue... but barely connected to sureshot)
I feel there are more clues which need exploring before settling on sureshot - the link between ambush/coming from nowhere in every single clue is intriguing to say the least, and that should be explored imo.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 14 2008 11:40 GMT
#5503
On May 14 2008 14:37 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
i just read scorch's post and i agree with it
hehe i'm pretty sure you're not mafia and when i saw the RB link i was like :O!!! glad that scorch brought it back up - but your still a suspect but im not confident in taking that chance yet

On May 14 2008 17:30 Camlito wrote:
I find it funny how all the major suspects now protect eachother >.>.
It's great how theres a division in the camps between "suspects" and myself and co. If unforgiven is red he's just given us a nice list of mafia candidates haha

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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 14 2008 11:51 GMT
#5504
On May 14 2008 03:43 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
to be honest i dont think DamageControl is mafia...so you'll be seeing 2 townies die today.

i will be posting my suspect list soon, im sure 2 or 3 are mafia

edit: i just dont see why you have to put me ahead of ninja4ever, suresh0t or nightmare
On May 14 2008 03:40 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
I vote for DamageControl and and ninja4ever

?
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Last Edited: 2008-05-14 13:02:02
May 14 2008 12:28 GMT
#5507
as a gentle reminder...

Case for Unforgiven being mafioso

Exhibit A
noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone.
We note this peculiar phrase, and implies that the driver of the vehicle must be doing something obscure while driving to be able to look for things

Exhibit B
"Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help,
Firstly we observe that he needs assistance carrying (a sick) person into the back of his car. And the fact that he acknowledges and appreciates it suggests that he needed the help.

Exhibit C
He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van.
Rather interesting choice of words "decided to be short". This coincides with the idea of Joe needing help to lift someone into his van

Exhibit D
Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind.
We note that he gives a thumbs up

Exhibit E
Smiling from the roof of the gas station Joe
We note that he is smiling

Exhibit F
Joe would jump him from above and knock him out cold instantly then hang him from the wall.
We notes that he in going to "jump" onto him rather than "drop" onto him

Exhibit G
he ran over and jumped onto the top of the car causing a huge indentation.
Once again joe jumps onto a car - obvious gaining some serious height if he is going to cause an indentation

Exhibit H
Naib got out of his car as fast as he could to see Joe standing up. Joe then kicked Naib in the face, being in the perfect spot to do so
We note that joe is in the perfect spot to kick him in the face - this again implies that he is short

Exhibit I
As Naib was getting up he slashed him repeatedly with the end of the bottle and kicked him back to the ground.
We note that joe can only attack naib once he is on the ground, when he tries to get up he is "kicked" back to the ground - this again coincides with the fact that he is short

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This image fits every single aspect of joe's character without fail. He fits the car driver in having to do something weird to look for his friend. He fits the short description and the fact he needs help to lift someone into his car. He fits the idea that joe needs to 'jump' around. He fits the kick. He fits the smile and the thumbs up.

Unforgiven absolutely has to be mafia

+ Show Spoiler [follow up posts] +
On May 11 2008 18:21 nemY wrote:
I don't really think Unforgiven is mafia here either.

-I don't see how Exhibit A has anything to relate to Unforgiven
-Exhibit B seems questionable to me. A normal person on his own would have trouble carrying a passed out individual of roughly the same size into the back seat of a car... unless he dragged him in or had help.
-Exhibit D doesn't make much sense if Unforgiven is a short rabbit, how could he give someone a thumb's up sign and hold someone else down from behind?
-If Joe really is Unforgiven, than Unforgiven shouldn't have any way of being able to talk (since he's a bunny). If crazie-penguin couldn't talk, why should Unforgiven be able to?

Sadly I can't really offer anyone else as a potential alternative for Joe though


My Response

lol unforgiven your analysis falls down on the count that information comes from one section of the profile only

case in point; d.arkive
[image loading]

every single clue from taipan snake pertained to that single picture - hence my accusation stands

On May 11 2008 18:21 nemY wrote:
-I don't see how Exhibit A has anything to relate to Unforgiven
Fair enough, but i ask you this - in the middle of the night can you really tell if someone is obviously looking for someone? I beleive if that bunny was driving then he would be serving over the road imo or similar.. i just thought it was particularly peculiar

-Exhibit B seems questionable to me. A normal person on his own would have trouble carrying a passed out individual of roughly the same size into the back seat of a car... unless he dragged him in or had help.
I do beleive that a normal sized person would have been able to drag his friend into the car without assistance - so why does joe need Lucas to help him? because he cant do it himself, its impossible

-Exhibit D doesn't make much sense if Unforgiven is a short rabbit, how could he give someone a thumb's up sign and hold someone else down from behind?
Note that there is no place where where the person was held by the rabbit - its plausible that the rabbit could still hold him - how can a penguin hold someone's legs? its flippers are incapable of holding legs? its somewhat of the same issue imo

-If Joe really is Unforgiven, than Unforgiven shouldn't have any way of being able to talk (since he's a bunny). If crazie-penguin couldn't talk, why should Unforgiven be able to?
That is an interesting point and quite frankly i don't have a complete answer for it... Blind Albino didn't talk - yet he was able to... Although given this sole flaw i still strongly feel that unforgiven is mafia and that the clues stacked against him are stronger than any other person in this game... i've been over the profiles so many times and im so certain about this - like d.arkive sure

+ Unforgiven is on the mandalor list (50% chance to kill) which always makes me more confident

Sadly I can't really offer anyone else as a potential alternative for Joe though

Case in point - he's the best fit

On May 11 2008 17:42 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
sup, well...i dont have much to say about plexa's clues, just that my picture being the source of all the clues pointing to me is a little too much, of ourse im not mafia, im sure Chuiu is a lot more capable of finding a lot of clues pointing to me, and be aware since L died not any clues is "smiling", but is true we need more suspects...on a side note im 6f 4' and 180lbs and thats not short lol.

On May 12 2008 05:55 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2008 19:05 Plexa wrote:
lol unforgiven your analysis falls down on the count that information comes from one section of the profile only

case in point; d.arkive
[image loading]

every single clue from taipan snake pertained to that single picture - hence my accusation stands

On May 11 2008 18:21 nemY wrote:
-I don't see how Exhibit A has anything to relate to Unforgiven
Fair enough, but i ask you this - in the middle of the night can you really tell if someone is obviously looking for someone? I beleive if that bunny was driving then he would be serving over the road imo or similar.. i just thought it was particularly peculiar

-Exhibit B seems questionable to me. A normal person on his own would have trouble carrying a passed out individual of roughly the same size into the back seat of a car... unless he dragged him in or had help.
I do beleive that a normal sized person would have been able to drag his friend into the car without assistance - so why does joe need Lucas to help him? because he cant do it himself, its impossible

-Exhibit D doesn't make much sense if Unforgiven is a short rabbit, how could he give someone a thumb's up sign and hold someone else down from behind?
Note that there is no place where where the person was held by the rabbit - its plausible that the rabbit could still hold him - how can a penguin hold someone's legs? its flippers are incapable of holding legs? its somewhat of the same issue imo

-If Joe really is Unforgiven, than Unforgiven shouldn't have any way of being able to talk (since he's a bunny). If crazie-penguin couldn't talk, why should Unforgiven be able to?
That is an interesting point and quite frankly i don't have a complete answer for it... Blind Albino didn't talk - yet he was able to... Although given this sole flaw i still strongly feel that unforgiven is mafia and that the clues stacked against him are stronger than any other person in this game... i've been over the profiles so many times and im so certain about this - like d.arkive sure

+ Unforgiven is on the mandalor list (50% chance to kill) which always makes me more confident

Sadly I can't really offer anyone else as a potential alternative for Joe though

Case in point - he's the best fit



exactly, we know Chuiu is a very smart guy, so, to just find clues about the characters parting from the pic in profiles is just weak (you can find a lot of information just googling my unoriginal nick ;D) i dont think chuiu had to use the same metod to find clues about 2 characters (me and d.arkive) besides, we have a lot more of strongest suspects and SUNDENLY you start a bandwagon against me =(...i dont want to belive the theory that says "ZOMG PLEXA'S MAFIA LULZ"...but this attack against me is disapointing =(


Editors note: That sure as hell was a flimsy defense by Unforgiven
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 15 2008 01:45 GMT
#5526
On May 15 2008 05:06 nemY wrote:
Exhibit B I can possibly see, but even then a normal sized person would have trouble carrying a passed out individual of equivalent size into a car. Exhibit D still don't make sense as the bunny is flipping us off rather than giving a thumbs up (perhaps Chuiu could have misinterpreted it though).
Originally the town interpreted the image as a "thumbs up" until unforgiven pointed out that hey, it's actually him giving the finger isn't it cute? So it's a valid mistake imo.

So yeah, he's probably mafia. Anyone know anything about Kuja9000 being Mr. Blond (I don't know much about final fantasy, so if there is anyone who does can they look into it)?

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Kuja
I like this connection, but we have alot of player outside the list atm... too many infact
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 15 2008 01:56 GMT
#5527
The fact that everyone is voting DamageControl is rather worrying =/ he may actually turn up green
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 15 2008 02:06 GMT
#5530
fair enough - his inactivity kinda support that theory
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 15 2008 02:26 GMT
#5533
On May 15 2008 11:08 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2008 10:56 Plexa wrote:
The fact that everyone is voting DamageControl is rather worrying =/ he may actually turn up green


lol wtf? wasnt he your PRIMARY suspect?!?!?!
yea he is so what?
my concerns have been nullified
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 15 2008 03:44 GMT
#5538
if both of you turn up green i seriously quit mafia
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May 15 2008 13:48 GMT
#5541
Just a heads up, im gone for the weekend (debating nationals) and won't get a chance to look at this until say sunday night!!

Gl town!
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 18 2008 11:48 GMT
#5584
howdy ho town!

So what happened at this debate tournament is that my team broke 1st (ie going into the semifinals we were the strongest team) and then lost the semifinals based on a technicality really really sucks

anyway, lets see what exactly is going on here...

DC being green is not surprising given how unforgiven voted, and actually unforgiven has given us a lot of information:
i just dont see why you have to put me ahead of ninja4ever, suresh0t or nightmare

Therefore it is rather safe to conclude that all three are innocent (or there abouts unless more evidence suggests otherwise)

Given that unforgiven didn't pass the torch onto clazziquai (or another suspect for that matter) intensifies my suspicion of Clazziquai (note nemy defended unforgiven with reasonably sound analysis and even though he was red , i think nemy had the towns best intentions at heart). Clazz has been a suspect for some time now, and there is a decent case against him (even independent of clues) that we can warrant a lynching here. In addition to that we must look at 0cz3c as well due to the similarity of these two in relation to other mafia.

As much as i appreciate pink's analysis, some of it seems.. rather iffy ... almost mafiash >.> i mean, can anyone else honestly see the connection to the wolf from qrs? anyone got his history? and we should be keeping tabs on people with analysis this questionable (eg. unforgiven)
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 19 2008 05:08 GMT
#5596
On May 19 2008 06:41 ahrara_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2008 20:48 Plexa wrote:
howdy ho town!

So what happened at this debate tournament is that my team broke 1st (ie going into the semifinals we were the strongest team) and then lost the semifinals based on a technicality really really sucks

What tournament was this? Do you mean you lost to a procedural?

One time I had a team come up with a total bullshit interpretation, but they won because they prepared we went all out topicality but they had prepared an 8 minute subpointed T rebuttal during prep...
bah we decided to be ballsy and propose a counter model and essentially even though we destroyed theirs throughly - ours was unsubstantiated, well less substantiated than theirs and hence we lost if we had simply omitted it then we would have won

On May 19 2008 00:58 Scorch wrote:
It's not yet safe to say Ninja, suresh0t and Nightmare are innocent just because Unforgiven pointed the finger at them. Unforgiven may have tried to actually protect one of his brethren by doing this. After all, who would suspect them if Unforgiven tried to get them lynched?
I don't think it's unreasonable to think there's still a mafia among Ninja, suresh0t and Nightmare. Of course it's not guaranteed either. That being said, I agree that Clazziquai has risen in suspicion.
Well, seeing as the evidence against all three candidates is shady at best (go on, try to demonstrate otherwise) then until we literally have no avenues to pursue i would never warrant the lynching of them. At least in my mind these guys are innocent enough for me to discount them in the mandalor list
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Last Edited: 2008-05-19 05:37:07
May 19 2008 05:36 GMT
#5598
clazziquai, who do you think is mr orange then?
even more, who do think is mafia?
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 19 2008 09:02 GMT
#5600
On May 19 2008 17:32 Scorch wrote:
Mafia again taking three days to write up five names. What the hell can be so difficult about that?
I have a suggestion, Chuiu. How about you limit the next night to 48 hours, and if there's no kill list after that, you select random targets with one less killing power as a punishment?
How about he just writes as follows
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The night was eerily calm as the town concealed themselves against the imminent mafia attack. All but one house was silent, this house was full of laughter, loud music and beer. The mafia sat huddled round a table waiting for Mr Orange to make his move. Without saying a word he pushed all his chips in sending a ripple of excitement through the remaining mafia. "Hah! I call your bluff!" exclaimed Mr Blue as he too pushed the majority of his chips into the center of the table. The showdown revealed Mr Blue's folly and Mr Orange walked away with a sizable stack of chips. Yes, the mafia were having a great time tonight playing their favorite pastime poker and drinking copious amounts of alcohol. Unfortunately for Eddie, Mr Black came prepared with a funnel and despite Eddie successfully completing his funnel he was far too intoxicated to reveal his orders for the night. Indeed, all the mafia were drunk out of their minds and not a single resident of Liquidia was harmed in the night.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 19 2008 09:08 GMT
#5602
hahaha
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 20 2008 12:14 GMT
#5653
expect a statement soon
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Last Edited: 2008-05-20 14:30:44
May 20 2008 14:22 GMT
#5659
look i dont have time at this very moment to write down an analysis because one of my gf's close friends just passed away it's been a rough day

4 blues, while seemingly crazy, is quite legit. More_Minerals has been hit for the last 3 or 4 nights now, and finally the mafia get him a shame, but oh well.. Pink was starting to analyze and stuff (and i suppose i was somewhat stupid about my conduct). butidigress can easily be a lucky shot while hollander falls into the same category. It's not ideal, but hey, let's play with the cards we've been dealt

Here is some food for thought

01-ShaLLoW[baY]
02-SoMuchBetter
06-clazziquai
28-ZBiR
39-Romance_us
43-NatsuTerran
58-Lysithea
60-SoleSteeler
67-0cz3c
78-BWdero
82-Ninja4ever.
87-Pangolin
91-Scorch
92-Jimtudor
97-suresh0t
103-SpiritoftheTuna

8 should be mafia

8-CDRdude
27-nemY(2)
34-RtS)Night[Mare(2)
48-qrs(2)
51-araav(2)
52-iNfuNdiBuLuM(2)
85-ahrara_(2)

1 mafia

Now that gives potentially 3/4 of all mafia within those two lists. In the highly likely even that i die lynch like mad from the lists above namely according to priority

High
06-clazziquai
67-0cz3c

Medium
02-SoMuchBetter
28-ZBiR
39-Romance_us
43-NatsuTerran
58-Lysithea
92-Jimtudor
103-SpiritoftheTuna

Low
01-ShaLLoW[baY]
60-SoleSteeler
78-BWdero
82-Ninja4ever.
87-Pangolin
91-Scorch
97-suresh0t

Im pretty confident you'll hit mafia thick and fast... you should reduce the list down to about 4 mafia after that. Im going to divert 100% of my efforts towards the Showtime! list and hopefully sort that shit out - im pretty sure its infundibulum but it really could be anyway.

Given that i die, town is not lost - associate will take over and solve the worlds problems.
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 20 2008 23:16 GMT
#5673
I agree with Scorch on all counts - thats a nice connection
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Last Edited: 2008-05-20 23:37:49
May 20 2008 23:37 GMT
#5675
On May 15 2008 05:09 BWdero wrote:
I vote for DamageControl and Ninja4Ever

On May 14 2008 05:11 KF91 wrote:
I vote for DamageControl and Ninja4Ever

On May 15 2008 12:04 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:
I vote for damagecontrol and ninja4ever

On May 15 2008 04:13 clazziquai wrote:
I vote for Damagecontrol and Ninja4Ever

Lynching any of these four also makes a lot of sense

I'll justify them later
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 21 2008 07:14 GMT
#5677
On May 21 2008 15:58 Alethios wrote:
Clazziquai seems like one of those Dr.Dragoon lynchings. The evidence is strong... everybody is sick of his inane prattle and he's being dumped in the vote thread.

Hopefully he won't turn out to be pumping green blood.

--------

Get out and vote here. All detectives are gone... so don't ever let the mafia sway the votes! Have a look at the evidence and make an informed decision. If you don't have the time to look at all the evidence, have a quick look and make your decision based upon somebody you trust.
Eh? Dr.Dragoon is still alive haha
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 21 2008 11:18 GMT
#5680
haha a more relevant example would've been ghar or shadowdrgn

i didn't play last round sooo... haha

word from associate:
Can we lynch clazziquai anyway, hes done nothing except make us frustrated and contribute nothing.
He just pops little jokes and tells people fuck you when they suspect him. If hes out of the way then atleast we can relax more.


(come to debating tomorrow!! please?)
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 22 2008 02:20 GMT
#5689
why hello thar mafia sir!
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 22 2008 02:37 GMT
#5691
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 22 2008 02:53 GMT
#5695
Hey Clazziquai!
what would you like to talk about
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Last Edited: 2008-05-22 03:01:42
May 22 2008 03:01 GMT
#5697
excess of time

Question; why have i been allowed to live for so long
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 22 2008 03:41 GMT
#5701
lol
the most damming thing was when unforgiven omitted your name from his suspect list
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 22 2008 03:57 GMT
#5702
On May 16 2008 10:34 clazziquai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2008 05:08 nemY wrote:
Also, I don't get why we don't lynch clazziquai, someone who we know is 110% mafia.


Let's lynch nemY I'm 9000% sure he is mafia
On May 20 2008 04:25 clazziquai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2008 14:36 Plexa wrote:
clazziquai, who do you think is mr orange then?
even more, who do think is mafia?


i dont know who mr orange can be
i think ninja4ever is the mafia

Thus nemY and ninja are pretty much innocent

On May 02 2008 08:46 clazziquai wrote:
I'm MAFIA

http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=70601&currentpage=1#15

oh the irony
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Last Edited: 2008-05-22 04:45:25
May 22 2008 04:44 GMT
#5706
while that may be true randombum - consider the circumstances around the mafias promotion of ninja et al. They were trying to shift focus from unforgiven onto other targets. None of those three candidates (sureshot, ninja etc) have strong solid clues linking to them and this is backed up by the mafia trying to sway votes. They wanted to stall unforgivens death (and hey, they confused you ) and were trying to promote 'popular' candidates with recent evidence supporting their greeness.

nemY may well be guilty but i simply cannot find anything to stick to him thus he looks fairly innocent in my eyes
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 22 2008 04:54 GMT
#5709
On May 22 2008 13:47 randombum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2008 13:44 Plexa wrote:
while that may be true randombum - consider the circumstances around the mafias promotion of ninja et al. They were trying to shift focus from unforgiven onto other targets. None of those three candidates (sureshot, ninja etc) have strong solid clues linking to them and this is backed up by the mafia trying to sway votes.

nemY may well be guilty but i simply cannot find anything to stick to him thus he looks fairly innocent in my eyes


True enough, but I figured I would point out my suspicions in case it led you to a spark of brilliance.
I'm mainly trying to say is we have to second guess all our initial conclusions from mafia posts since it is their job to deceive us, and our job to sort fact from fiction.

Until we get clues against him all that will remain are suspicions.
I find that its always best to prioritize and by deeming some "innocent" you lessen the burden on yourself when you analyze. However, when they are deemed "innocent" it doesn't mean they aren't necessarily mafia - just that we're unlikely to find mafia within them
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May 22 2008 10:53 GMT
#5720
Mr Orange was Clazz without doubt

Now im probably going to end up dead - so my time with the town is limited...

I think whats best is if you guys ask questions and ill answer them
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Last Edited: 2008-05-22 12:18:41
May 22 2008 11:13 GMT
#5722
+ Show Spoiler [eddie] +
Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner".

Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans.

Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help.

Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat.

As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him Frenh_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.

Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help"

Lenwe snatched up the piece of rebar and Mr. Red retreated to the new threat he posed. Eddie wasn't afraid to take on Lenwe, however, and charged strait at him grabbing the steel bar right out of his hand and knocking him to the ground with it. A few well placed blows and Lenwe was dead as well.

he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them.

They were just starting to get into it when Eddie cut their fun short by shooting decafchicken with his own gun and they all retreated quickly.

Eddie went down the long list of townspeople and selected a bunch for his mafia to handle. Once his orders were out they got right to work.

Finally he got up and asked why there were no other customers. The Wolf pointed to the door where Eddie stood, Last Romantic noticed it was locked up and the lights on the front were off. He took it that the bar was closing and he should leave so he got up and headed to Eddie expecting him to open the door but Eddie stopped him instead and pointed back at The Wolf.

What he found was not normal to his eyes. Two men, Eddie and Mr. Orange were holding a man to the ground with their legs and pulling as hard as they could on his arms. MTF screeched to a stop and got out to help the man but it was too late and blood gushed all over the sidewalk as ~OpZ~ was literally disarmed.

Mr. Orange had the help of Eddie as he went after Vharox. They were following behind Vharox as he was leaving a bar late at night. Once Vharox got his door open Eddie came from behind and grabbed him in restraint. Mr. Orange smashed an empty beer bottle over Vharox's head and it shattered into pieces and made Vharox flinch back in pain. He broke free of Eddie and charged into Mr. Orange knocking him on his side. Eddie tried to restrain Vharox again but had no luck as he fought him back.

Hollander rolled to the side dodging the attack but he was stopped rather abruptly when Eddie stomped down on his face. Held in place by Eddie Hollander had nowhere to run as California Mountain Snake swung again and sliced his head clean off.
Traits
- Eddie has a recurring idea of an abrupt end to something (or putting and end to the mafias fun)
-> This is intriguing as there are multiple things about eddie's character to consider
-> Finding a link to this facet of Eddie could lead to a mafia suspect
--> MTF believed this was jtan due to the "move and shoot" connection to jtans picture

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blonde] +
He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground.

He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead.

With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown.

He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot.

Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look.

"Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building.

They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground.


G.s)NarutO was doing monk things in his monk place with his monk friends when he decided it was late and he wanted to go to sleep. On the way to his room he encountered Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde mocked G.s)NarutO for his failed attempts at helping the town and then pulled out a gun to kill him. G.s)NarutO wasn't ready to give up on life completely though and thought he could redeem himself by taking out this man for the town. He charged towards Mr. Blonde and tried to grab his gun but Mr. Blonde was a bit faster to respond and shot him twice in the leg. He finished it by shooting G.s)NarutO in the head and made his escape through a window before getting caught by a horde of monks.

Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth were at AmorVincitOmnia's convenience store right before closing. They wanted everyones attention right away so Mr. Blonde charged through the front door, a move that shattered all the windows. Inside AmorVincitOmnia was cashing Alventenie's purchase and they both immediately looked at Mr. Blonde shocked at what just happened. Both Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth ran towards them and stabbed each of them through the shoulders with a knife. Mr. Blonde had AmorVincitOmnia pinned up against a wall and Cottonmouth had Alventenie on another. AmorVincitOmnia pushed and shoved and tried to get free but Mr. Blonde stabbed three more knives into each arm and three into each leg. Then to finish him off he stabbed two more into AmorVincitOmnia's chest.
Traits
- Very strong and agile (able to evade)
- Multiple instances of people charging and Mr Blonde shooting them before they can react
- Note while ninja's are a likely suspect, the clue above is worth investigating

+ Show Spoiler [Cottonmouth] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm.

NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.

He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him.

Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104

Cottonmouth found Klive5ive walking to his friend house down the street and began his attack. He threw one stone at Klive5ive's back to get his attention, then when he had it he threw another two at him. Klive5ive dodged the next two and started picking up the stones to chuck back at Cottonmouth. Unfortunately Cottonmouth already had some more ready, throwing four more stones at Klive5ive. Klive5ive was severely bruised at this point and he struggled to throw back the stones with much strength. Cottonmouth threw three more stones at Klive5ive's right arm and three at his left arm in effort to disable him. With Klive5ive unable to defend himself Cottonmouth took two last stones and smashed them into Klive5ive's skull.

Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth were at AmorVincitOmnia's convenience store right before closing. They wanted everyones attention right away so Mr. Blonde charged through the front door, a move that shattered all the windows. Inside AmorVincitOmnia was cashing Alventenie's purchase and they both immediately looked at Mr. Blonde shocked at what just happened. Both Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth ran towards them and stabbed each of them through the shoulders with a knife.

Alventenie already exhausted from the day he had put up little resistance as Cottonmouth stabbed three knives in his other arm and each leg. Then stabbed five more in the shape of a pentagon and finally killed off Alventenie.
Traits
- 15 weapons a day.. how annoying

+ Show Spoiler [The Wolf] +
The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head.

The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later.

He met gaze with The Wolf who was carrying some more debris from the building. Caller rolled to his right trying to dodge an attack from The Wolf but wasn't fast enough and took a vicious blow to the chest. He rolled to the side and started searching around for a weapon of his own as he jumped up from the ground.

Last Romantic was driving around looking for a bar still open late night when he finally found one, or thought he did. The Wolf was waiting inside the cleverly disguised building and had a gun ready for ambush. As Last Romantic walked in he approached The Wolf and ordered a drink. The Wolf served him and a minute or two passed by before he realized the bar was completely empty except for him and The Wolf. Finally he got up and asked why there were no other customers. The Wolf pointed to the door where Eddie stood,

Eddie stopped him instead and pointed back at The Wolf. Finally The Wolf ended the charade and shot Last Romantic in the head.

The Wolf had been tracking his target for quite some time. His target, GranDim, had been driving around all over town in a white van. When he finally stopped at a gas station to get gas The Wolf got in position for the kill. He silently waited for GranDim to fill up his gas and pay for it then ambushed him right before he got back in his van. GranDim and The Wolf got in fist fight and it was soon obvious who was better trained for it. The Wolf whittled GranDim down with every punch and eventually knocked him out on the door of the van. To finish him off The Wolf searched the van for some drugs and gave GranDim overdoses of everything he could find.

Alone in his house butidigress was polishing his guns and sulking in silence. He felt powerless now that he had no leads or suspicious of mafia, but that would soon be solved. The Wolf had broken into his house and he heard the noise from his room. He carried a loaded shotgun with him as he slowly paced down the hallway towards the living room where it had come from. There he found the Wolf looking around for him and quickly aimed to fire. But the Wolf had no intention of dying this evening and quickly dodged to the side behind a couch not even getting hit by stray buckshot. butidigress moved around to get a better shot but the Wolf was moving quick and had come up on his side. He grabbed the shotgun and kicked butidigress releasing his grip from the firearm and pushing him into an open area. butidigress scrambled and tried to make it to some cover but the Wolf still not holding the weapon right swung it and smacked butidigress in the chest and knocked him to the ground. After arming himself properly the Wolf fire strait into butidigress's head killing him instantly.
Traits
- Cannot be Sureshot - i am 99% sure
- I beleive he is jtan; he fits the picture of jtan (better than eddie) which the hiding, dodging, moving around unseen (like a lurker).
--> "But the Wolf had no intention of dying this evening and quickly dodged to the side behind a couch not even getting hit by stray buckshot." is pretty strong
--> "He silently waited for GranDim to fill up his gas and pay for it then ambushed him right before he got back in his van." cmonnn
--> the fact he only shoots once is to do with the marines shooting the lurker then moving again - one shot then move

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Brown] +
As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring.

Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.

Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying.

He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull.

Mr. Brown opened the door and he and Mr. Pink walked out.

Mr. Brown landed punch after punch on AcrossFiveJulys who was doing poorly to defend himself.

AcrossFiveJulys was laying on the ground dead also, beaten to death by Mr. Brown and he accompanies Mr. Pink back into the building humming a little tune to get his mind off the violence.
Traits
- Indecipherable
- Find the player linking to that and we have a winner

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Black] +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now.

Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life.

he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him.

Mr. Black approached the last target for the night, GrayArea. He found him taking out the trash before going to bed that night and ambushed him as he headed back. Throwing some foul smelling bones from the trash at GrayArea he got his attention. GrayArea saw what was left of the dinner he caught on the ground and no sooner did he notice Mr. Black than was he already being attacked by him. Mr. Black drove a knife through GrayArea's arm and it sent him flinching back. He grabbed his arm and ran back towards the house to try to get help or call the cops. But Mr. Black sprinted after him and stabbed again in his back. GrayArea convulsed from the attack and fell to the ground. GrayArea had no escape at this point and Mr. Black finished him off by stabbing him through the heart from the back to finish him.

Mr. Black wasn't out to find someone to kill he was just looking for a bar still open when he came across MoRe_mInErAls. Seeing no one around he thought to himself what an easy kill this would be so he took the opportunity and began to sneak up on MoRe_mInErAls. MoRe_mInErAls was standing outside an unmarked building as if guarding it when he noticed an eerie aroma wafting about. Right when he was about to investigate Mr. Black was behind him and choking him with a piece of rope. MoRe_mInErAls struggled and gasped for air, he tried hitting Mr. Black but only succeeding in knocking them both to the ground. He struggled another moment until finally MoRe_mInErAls died from suffocation.
Traits
- Possibly smelly or has a strong odor
- Strong character; possibly connected to a ice hockey player
--> the smell is connected to him after some kind of training "he was just looking for a bar" seems to emphasize the causal nature
--> The fighter between MM and Mr Black resembles ice hockey to some extent
--> The idea of mr black preventing escape seems to coincide with a goalie/defender on an icehockey team (i dont actually know what position jim tudor plays)
--> i feel that jimtudor is our strongest candidate here

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Pink] +
"Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans.

Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock.

He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after

OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.

He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull.

Mr. Brown opened the door and he and Mr. Pink walked out. "I hope you guys were looking for trouble because you just found it" said Mr. Pink and they both threw punches at their respective targets.

Zeks put up a bit of a fight as he took on Mr. Pink, but Mr. Pink was determined to make him feel some pain. He finally got him into a corner and pulled out a can and a lighter. Mr. Pink emptied the contents of the can onto Zeks and lit him on fire. Zeks tried to put the fire out by rolling on the ground but it kept burning. He was about to get up and pull off his clothes but Mr. Pink decided he had suffered enough and knocked Zeks unconscious and let him burn to death.

Another evening in the town of Liquidia but still the town was not safe. The town struggled to discover the identities of the remaining mafia whilst they pick off the best of them one by one. And Mr. Pink was about to continue that. He continued his long term trend of torturing those before he killed them off and his victim this night was omfghi2u2. Crouched over a sleeping omfghi2u2 he affixed several electrodes all over his body then walked over to box he had setup on a table nearby. One by one he activated each electrode and soon omfghi2u2 was awake and screaming in pain. He continued turning up the voltage more and more throwing out every bit of juice the machine had. After a few seconds, or what seemed like an eternity to omfghi2u2, he lost all bodily function and ceased to live.
Traits
- Sadism..
- Mr Pink is again a complex character and i need to digest the information better

+ Show Spoiler [Mr Blue] +
Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out.

Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind.

Mr. Blue was first up, and he was outside the house of fusionsdf. He noticed him in the living room and decided to try to sneak in from the back. All windows locked he tried the back door. When he was left with no other option he decided to kick in the door which alerted fusionsdf. He ran to the back of his house to see Mr. Blue coming in. fusionsdf knew exactly what was going on and grabbed an umbrella that was sitting by the door. He stabbed at Mr. Blue and flailed at him trying to fight him off but Mr. Blue evaded the blows and grabbed hold of the umbrella and yanked it out of fusionsdf's hands. He broke the handle hitting fusionsdf over the head with it and discarded it. fusionsdf dived forward and tackled Mr. Blue to the ground but Mr. Blue shoved him to the side and quickly got up. He grabbed up the umbrella again and stabbed down at fusionsdf. The tip was enough to do severe damage to fusionsdf, and he stabbed through his chest as if it were nothing. Pretty soon fusionsdf was dead from the beating.

He gasped in horror and turned in retreat but found Mr. Blue in his way. MTF panicked, feeling his life in serious danger, and plowed through Mr. Blue toward his car. MTF was almost there when a flying object met contact with his neck and severed his head right off.

smurfingchobo was the last the mafia were after that night. He let his dogs out before going to bed and they started barking at something in the yard. Neither smurfingchobo nor the dogs could see who it was but they all heard him moving about. The barking came to a stop as blades met their mark on each dogs head killing them all. smurfingchobo took a few steps closer to see one of his dogs decapitated from Mr. Blue's blades when he soon met the same fate as they had.

The last victim of the night was in the same area as the first. Mr. Blue heard from California Mountain Snake about the white vans and killing off a medic so he decided to go in for his own kill. He quickly found HeRoS)Pink sitting alone in his van just listening to the radio. Mr. Blue was driving a rather over sized excavator and he grabbed the van from the front to the back and pinned HeRoS)Pink in place as he carried the vehicle to the town dump. HeRoS)Pink was helpless and couldn't move an inch the whole time as Mr. Blue dropped his van into a car shredder. Pretty soon HeRoS)Pink and his van were in tiny pieces.
Traits
- At this moment i have no solid connections for Mr Blue..

+ Show Spoiler [Copperhead] +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape.

Copperhead found Falcynn working late at school on an essay. He saw him at a computer typing it up and crept up from behind. Copperhead grabbed his chair and wheeled him into a printer table off to the side knocking several things from the shelves onto him. Falcynn pushed himself away from it and got up to defend himself, he grabbed a pen which had fallen onto the ground and slashed upward with it at Copperhead. Copperhead grabbed a keyboard and used it as a shield, he deflected the pen and smashed it into Falcynn. He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head between the two keyboards.
Traits
- Choice clue is quite strong at this point
- Seems to be inconsistent in both days

+ Show Spoiler [California Mountain Snake] +
the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake.

He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead.

Joe kept a tight grip as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice. He sliced clean through aZnvaLiaNce in his chest, his gut, his arms and legs and pretty soon aZnvaLiaNce was a bloody mess, and they left him there to bleed out and die knowing he couldn't do a thing to save himself in the condition he was in.

Hollander was sipping on some Starbucks sitting in his van when he heard someone tapping on the window. He looked to the side and saw no one around, however. So he opened the door and stuck his head outside to get a better view around and saw California Mountain Snake. It was too late to get back in though because California Mountain Snake grabbed him by the neck and pulled him out and threw him to the ground. He pulled a metal disc and started swinging at Hollander's neck with it. Hollander rolled to the side dodging the attack but he was stopped rather abruptly when Eddie stomped down on his face. Held in place by Eddie Hollander had nowhere to run as California Mountain Snake swung again and sliced his head clean off.
Traits
- This "weapon" is rather interesting
- Possibly linked to Bockit's image
- Probably not SMB at this point, but still a possibility (australian connection with his character.. i feel that its decently strong)
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-23 15:35:08
May 22 2008 12:22 GMT
#5723
i feel confident in;
The Wolf = jtan
Mr Black = jimtudor (mandalor)
Copperhead = 0cz3c (mandalor)

somewhat confident in;
Mr Pink = Rowdierbob LTT
Californian Mountain Snake = Bockit

this in addition to the list a couple pages back pretty much sums up my thoughts
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 23 2008 11:47 GMT
#5734
Let me elaborate on 0cz3c some more, because he is an interesting person.

There are many similarities between him and Clazziquai. We know for a fact that Clazz, BlindAlbino and L (i think) all voted for Randombum right because votes closing. There was additional person on that list - and that was 0cz3c; completing the 4 vote mafia train. Other mafia also voted randombum - which in my opinion was to avoid empyrean getting bodyguard protection across multiple nights and have protected detective powers. If i get time ill cross check this list with the mandalor list. In addition to this he's been rather inactive - which coincides with the mafia's laziness. Also there are clues linking his quote to Copperhead, thanks to MTF for spotting that.

His conduct basically makes him mafia in my eyes.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 23 2008 12:41 GMT
#5737
worth considering once we deplete the mandalor list
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-23 15:50:59
May 23 2008 15:03 GMT
#5739
randombum votes - (remaining players)
Dr.Dragoon
fanatacist
Bockit
BWdero (Mandalor)
So no fek
Lysithea (Mandalor)
iNfuNdiBuLuM
0zc3c (Mandalor)
LTT

+ Show Spoiler [full list] +
randombum - 27
Dr.Dragoon
G.s)NarutO
fanatacist
Bockit
BWdero
Ninja4ever.
So no fek
Lysithea
JeeJee
GrayArea
Meta
iNfuNdiBuLuM
Ace
suresh0t
Mynock
Hollander
crazie-penguin
Showtime!
MTF
GeneralStan
L
LTT
French_Toast
Unforgiven_ve
0cz3c
BlindAlbino
clazziquai
Queasy


But the tail end of the list is really interesting..

crazie-penguin
Showtime!
MTF
GeneralStan

L
LTT
French_Toast
Unforgiven_ve
0cz3c
BlindAlbino
clazziquai
Queasy

With evidence against 0cz3c one really has to wonder.. and LTT always has seemed suspect

interesting list
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-23 15:48:58
May 23 2008 15:24 GMT
#5740
+ Show Spoiler [Mr Pink] +
"Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans.

Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock.

He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after

OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live.

Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.

He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull.

Mr. Brown opened the door and he and Mr. Pink walked out. "I hope you guys were looking for trouble because you just found it" said Mr. Pink and they both threw punches at their respective targets.

Zeks put up a bit of a fight as he took on Mr. Pink, but Mr. Pink was determined to make him feel some pain. He finally got him into a corner and pulled out a can and a lighter. Mr. Pink emptied the contents of the can onto Zeks and lit him on fire. Zeks tried to put the fire out by rolling on the ground but it kept burning. He was about to get up and pull off his clothes but Mr. Pink decided he had suffered enough and knocked Zeks unconscious and let him burn to death.

Another evening in the town of Liquidia but still the town was not safe. The town struggled to discover the identities of the remaining mafia whilst they pick off the best of them one by one. And Mr. Pink was about to continue that. He continued his long term trend of torturing those before he killed them off and his victim this night was omfghi2u2. Crouched over a sleeping omfghi2u2 he affixed several electrodes all over his body then walked over to box he had setup on a table nearby. One by one he activated each electrode and soon omfghi2u2 was awake and screaming in pain. He continued turning up the voltage more and more throwing out every bit of juice the machine had. After a few seconds, or what seemed like an eternity to omfghi2u2, he lost all bodily function and ceased to live.
This could take awhile..

"We must be born with an intuition of mortality. Before we know the words for it, out we come, bloodied and squalling with the knowledge that for all the compasses in the world, there's only one direction, and time is its only measure."

Interesting quote, suspected before, but lets rehash it.

1) "Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans. ==> relates directly to the discussion about time being the only measure

2) Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. ==> relates directly to "we are born with an intuition of mortality" - Mr Pink reminds them of their intuition

3) "OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live." ==> relates directly to "Before we know the words for it, out we come, bloodied and squalling with the knowledge"

4) "Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding." ==> relates to "Before we know the words to it, out we come, bloodied and squalling"

5) He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. ==> relates to "We must be born with an intuition of mortality"

6) Mr. Brown opened the door and he and Mr. Pink walked out. "I hope you guys were looking for trouble because you just found it" said Mr. Pink and they both threw punches at their respective targets. ==> relates to "Before we know the words for it, out we come, bloodied and squalling with the knowledge that for all the compasses in the world," (ie the rate at which they attacked was "rushed")

7) Zeks put up a bit of a fight as he took on Mr. Pink, but Mr. Pink was determined to make him feel some pain. He finally got him into a corner and pulled out a can and a lighter. ==> relates again to the bloodied and squalling passage

8) He was about to get up and pull off his clothes but Mr. Pink decided he had suffered enough and knocked Zeks unconscious and let him burn to death. ==> as above

9) And Mr. Pink was about to continue that. He continued his long term trend of torturing those before he killed them off and his victim this night was omfghi2u2. Crouched over a sleeping omfghi2u2 he affixed several electrodes all over his body then walked over to box he had setup on a table nearby. One by one he activated each electrode and soon omfghi2u2 was awake and screaming in pain. He continued turning up the voltage more and more throwing out every bit of juice the machine had. ==> this sadism idea represented here is chuiu torturing us, im rather sure (why else would he say so in the clue?)

10) After a few seconds, or what seemed like an eternity to omfghi2u2, he lost all bodily function and ceased to live ==> relates to "there's only one direction, and time is its only measure."

In addition to the clue evidence, LTT joined the randombum vote train;
crazie-penguin
Showtime!
MTF
GeneralStan

L
LTT <---------------------------------------------- HERE HE IS!!!!
French_Toast
Unforgiven_ve
0cz3c <- (lol another mafioso)
BlindAlbino
clazziquai
Queasy

Thus it leads me to conclude, that Mr Pink cannot be anyone in this fucking game apart from LTT

rot in hell

rot in hell...
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 23 2008 15:51 GMT
#5742
love you too cam
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Last Edited: 2008-05-23 16:09:39
May 23 2008 16:04 GMT
#5743
+ Show Spoiler [Cottonmouth] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm.

NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.

He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him.

Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104

Cottonmouth found Klive5ive walking to his friend house down the street and began his attack. He threw one stone at Klive5ive's back to get his attention, then when he had it he threw another two at him. Klive5ive dodged the next two and started picking up the stones to chuck back at Cottonmouth. Unfortunately Cottonmouth already had some more ready, throwing four more stones at Klive5ive. Klive5ive was severely bruised at this point and he struggled to throw back the stones with much strength. Cottonmouth threw three more stones at Klive5ive's right arm and three at his left arm in effort to disable him. With Klive5ive unable to defend himself Cottonmouth took two last stones and smashed them into Klive5ive's skull.

Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth were at AmorVincitOmnia's convenience store right before closing. They wanted everyones attention right away so Mr. Blonde charged through the front door, a move that shattered all the windows. Inside AmorVincitOmnia was cashing Alventenie's purchase and they both immediately looked at Mr. Blonde shocked at what just happened. Both Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth ran towards them and stabbed each of them through the shoulders with a knife.

Alventenie already exhausted from the day he had put up little resistance as Cottonmouth stabbed three knives in his other arm and each leg. Then stabbed five more in the shape of a pentagon and finally killed off Alventenie.
Okay, once again, this could be awhile but lets gooooo

Today we're considering SpiritOfTheTuna as CottonMouth

1) He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. ==> Note how CM didn't get hit by this at all

2) managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more ==> note that it seems that CottonMouth has this extra dimension of perception

3) He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate ==> note that its just like they appeared

4) As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. ==> No physical contact apart from the nails hitting him

5) Cottonmouth found Klive5ive walking to his friend house down the street and began his attack. He threw one stone at Klive5ive's back to get his attention, then when he had it he threw another two at him ==> its almost like hes invisible

6) Unfortunately Cottonmouth already had some more ready, throwing four more stones at Klive5ive. Klive5ive was severely bruised at this point and he struggled to throw back the stones with much strength ==> CM can pick up stuff strangely fast, and isn't hit at all still

7) Mr. Blonde and Cottonmouth were at AmorVincitOmnia's convenience store right before closing. They wanted everyones attention right away so Mr. Blonde charged through the front door, a move that shattered all the windows. ==> CM can't do this because he is only a spirit

8&9)Cottonmouth ran towards them and stabbed each of them through the shoulders with a knife. Alventenie already exhausted from the day he had put up little resistance as Cottonmouth stabbed three knives in his other arm and each leg. ==> Once again no physical contact apart from the weapons

10) Then stabbed five more in the shape of a pentagon and finally killed off Alventenie ==> symbol of the occult and related to spirits directly

Associate also brought my attention recently in his efforts to crack CM that SpiritOfTheTuna has 15 letters. This coincides greatly with our mafioso. He is also on the Mandalor list - increasing his chances

On these grounds i call SpiritoftheTuna mafioso!
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-23 16:29:34
May 23 2008 16:19 GMT
#5745
+ Show Spoiler +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape.

Copperhead found Falcynn working late at school on an essay. He saw him at a computer typing it up and crept up from behind. Copperhead grabbed his chair and wheeled him into a printer table off to the side knocking several things from the shelves onto him. Falcynn pushed himself away from it and got up to defend himself, he grabbed a pen which had fallen onto the ground and slashed upward with it at Copperhead. Copperhead grabbed a keyboard and used it as a shield, he deflected the pen and smashed it into Falcynn. He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head between the two keyboards.
This is... well... depressing to say the least... gah

Without going into too much detail;
"well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with.
He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head between the two keyboards.

Copperhead is RANDOM, fucking RANDOM -.-;;;
randombum.. are you mafia?!

Basically if 0cz3c turns green, our pardoner is mafia

EDIT: in fact, 0cz3c looks like he is actually green o god...

EDIT2: previously i had assumed innocence, but he is indeed on the mandalor list :X

EDIT3: This explains RandomBum's behavior perfectly... the lack of participation despite "spending most of his time on tl". The lack of faith in the unforgiven lynch.. him perking up once suspected

wow wtf my universe is imploding
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 23 2008 16:59 GMT
#5751
On May 24 2008 01:50 randombum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2008 01:19 Plexa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape.

Copperhead found Falcynn working late at school on an essay. He saw him at a computer typing it up and crept up from behind. Copperhead grabbed his chair and wheeled him into a printer table off to the side knocking several things from the shelves onto him. Falcynn pushed himself away from it and got up to defend himself, he grabbed a pen which had fallen onto the ground and slashed upward with it at Copperhead. Copperhead grabbed a keyboard and used it as a shield, he deflected the pen and smashed it into Falcynn. He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head between the two keyboards.
This is... well... depressing to say the least... gah

Without going into too much detail;
"well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with.
He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head between the two keyboards.

Copperhead is RANDOM, fucking RANDOM -.-;;;
randombum.. are you mafia?!

Basically if 0cz3c turns green, our pardoner is mafia

EDIT: in fact, 0cz3c looks like he is actually green o god...

EDIT2: previously i had assumed innocence, but he is indeed on the mandalor list :X

EDIT3: This explains RandomBum's behavior perfectly... the lack of participation despite "spending most of his time on tl". The lack of faith in the unforgiven lynch.. him perking up once suspected

wow wtf my universe is imploding



My behavior is explained because part of my conditions for using my time on this game was if I was elected mayor. Since I did not receive the position I wanted my interest soon wondered elsewhere. IE If I had ace's job and information I would have been far more active. But acting alone really is a lot less fun. (Unlike you plexa who has associates, and all the information town has).

I'll grant that my lack of faith in unforgiven was rather damning, but if I were mafia don't you think I would have pardoned somebody by now?

Seems like you are trying to force a person on me.
I want to beleive you're not mafia, i really really do...

Obviously, you are in a position of power - so why would you pardon a mafia when that means you look very suspicious should that person turn red. You would want to maintain this secure position from where you can support mafia antics.

Even though you claim your interest waned, its still an interesting correlation

And for the record, I was only let into the circle after d.arkive suicided... i was doing analysis without associates before as well.. over time i acquired allies and we have been working hard together to bring mafia down. Information or not, all it did was save me some time...

Ultimately i dont want to think you're mafia.. but your defense is actually typical of all the mafia thus far haha and theres a substantial amount of evidence pointing your way... e.g. try to explain that mafia train when you ran for mayor? suddenly they all switched votes trying to get you elected

Pending the information i get from Ace regarding whether people actually checked your role - i am going to have to say you're mafia. And i would not do this lightly good sir, you after all hold an extremely valuable role. Your best defense at this point is to show me how the clues connect somewhere else
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 23 2008 17:01 GMT
#5752
Summary of tonights findings before i sleep;

What me and associate agree on;
JimTudor is Mr Black
LTT is Mr Pink
SpiritOfTheTuna is CottonMouth
jtan as mafia
nemY is innocent (the clue we were pinning him on is shared by Alventenie ie impossible for the two to be differentiated)

What we disagree on;
Randombum vs 0cz3c for CopperHead
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 23 2008 17:04 GMT
#5753
On May 24 2008 01:57 suresh0t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2008 01:52 qrs wrote:
On May 24 2008 00:24 Plexa wrote:
Thus it leads me to conclude, that Mr Pink cannot be anyone in this fucking game apart from LTT

LTT is on bumatlarge's list of innocents, which has proven correct so far. I doubt that he's Mafia.
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67925&currentpage=36#704



That is a good point. Hey look...me and qrs are getting along .. ish!
one must remember that bumatlarge had no special role or anything. His list is based on no fact - It's waffly evidence, like my controversial list, it doesn't hold up against the strong hard evidence like clue connections. And in reality, do we have a better fit for the information?
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 23 2008 17:06 GMT
#5754
On May 24 2008 01:55 suresh0t wrote:
so what;s the plan lynch Oc34253245dfafaf and see if he is in fact green...or are you going to call him innocent and assume it is random?

I think the safer play is Oc342525dfa lynch along with another "known" mafia, and see what happens. The Pardoner doesn't have much power but I'd rather have a chance at another green alive with the little protection we have of one bodyguard as opposed to lynching an innocent pardoner.
I'm going to die, Ace is going to die, randombum isn't going to die

thats your clue - that or if copperhead continues to be random; in which case its a fairly safe lynch given the stakes.

Tomorrow we lynch the other 3-4 suspects and narrow things down a bit and wait for Chuiu to reveal to us the randomness
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 23 2008 17:15 GMT
#5757
On May 24 2008 02:09 randombum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2008 01:59 Plexa wrote:
On May 24 2008 01:50 randombum wrote:
On May 24 2008 01:19 Plexa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape.

Copperhead found Falcynn working late at school on an essay. He saw him at a computer typing it up and crept up from behind. Copperhead grabbed his chair and wheeled him into a printer table off to the side knocking several things from the shelves onto him. Falcynn pushed himself away from it and got up to defend himself, he grabbed a pen which had fallen onto the ground and slashed upward with it at Copperhead. Copperhead grabbed a keyboard and used it as a shield, he deflected the pen and smashed it into Falcynn. He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head b
etween the two keyboards.
This is... well... depressing to say the least... gah

Without going into too much detail;
"well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with.
He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head between the two keyboards.

Copperhead is RANDOM, fucking RANDOM -.-;;;
randombum.. are you mafia?!

Basically if 0cz3c turns green, our pardoner is mafia

EDIT: in fact, 0cz3c looks like he is actually green o god...

EDIT2: previously i had assumed innocence, but he is indeed on the mandalor list :X

EDIT3: This explains RandomBum's behavior perfectly... the lack of participation despite "spending most of his time on tl". The lack of faith in the unforgiven lynch.. him perking up once suspected

wow wtf my universe is imploding



My behavior is explained because part of my conditions for using my time on this game was if I was elected mayor. Since I did not receive the position I wanted my interest soon wondered elsewhere. IE If I had ace's job and information I would have been far more active. But acting alone really is a lot less fun. (Unlike you plexa who has associates, and all the information town has).

I'll grant that my lack of faith in unforgiven was rather damning, but if I were mafia don't you think I would have pardoned somebody by now?

Seems like you are trying to force a person on me.
I want to beleive you're not mafia, i really really do...

Obviously, you are in a position of power - so why would you pardon a mafia when that means you look very suspicious should that person turn red. You would want to maintain this secure position from where you can support mafia antics.

Even though you claim your interest waned, its still an interesting correlation

And for the record, I was only let into the circle after d.arkive suicided... i was doing analysis without associates before as well.. over time i acquired allies and we have been working hard together to bring mafia down. Information or not, all it did was save me some time...

Ultimately i dont want to think you're mafia.. but your defense is actually typical of all the mafia thus far haha and theres a substantial amount of evidence pointing your way... e.g. try to explain that mafia train when you ran for mayor? suddenly they all switched votes trying to get you elected

Pending the information i get from Ace regarding whether people actually checked your role - i am going to have to say you're mafia. And i would not do this lightly good sir, you after all hold an extremely valuable role. Your best defense at this point is to show me how the clues connect somewhere else


If I were a mafia pardoner I could easily pardon somebody who some people were against lynching (L). The only way to see if he is red is to keep lynching him (since vigs are dead), whom I could pardon again. Then the only thing left is if the town (which is not entirely sure) wants L dead, they have to lynch me first. Which would sow confusion and distrust, which alone would be worth it if I was mafia. Also, how does being in a position of power (Which isn't all that useful, my only hope of using it is if ace went nuts and used his +6 vote to lynch plexa). If I were to have pardoned a mafia I would have done it early game to keep mafia kill count up.

Ultimately, staying in this position as mafia would help the mafia less than to have a few extra kills for a few more nights.
But the position keeps you "off the radar" (or at least has done). But yes, let's continue to argue you conduct. Myself, Ace and MTF knew L was mafia and if you had stepped in you would have been found out rather easily. This goes for the majority of other lynchings - remember that we scored a number of mafia kills via vigilantes in the early days - proving your pardoning powers useless anyway.

You haven't addressed a number of issues but w/e. As i outlined before we just lynch others and wait for chuiu to force your hand (or mafia killing Ace et al but not you )
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 23 2008 17:31 GMT
#5761
On May 24 2008 02:20 randombum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2008 02:15 Plexa wrote:
On May 24 2008 02:09 randombum wrote:
On May 24 2008 01:59 Plexa wrote:
On May 24 2008 01:50 randombum wrote:
On May 24 2008 01:19 Plexa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape.

Copperhead found Falcynn working late at school on an essay. He saw him at a computer typing it up and crept up from behind. Copperhead grabbed his chair and wheeled him into a printer table off to the side knocking several things from the shelves onto him. Falcynn pushed himself away from it and got up to defend himself, he grabbed a pen which had fallen onto the ground and slashed upward with it at Copperhead. Copperhead grabbed a keyboard and used it as a shield, he deflected the pen and smashed it into Falcynn. He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head b
etween the two keyboards.
This is... well... depressing to say the least... gah

Without going into too much detail;
"well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with.
He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head between the two keyboards.

Copperhead is RANDOM, fucking RANDOM -.-;;;
randombum.. are you mafia?!

Basically if 0cz3c turns green, our pardoner is mafia

EDIT: in fact, 0cz3c looks like he is actually green o god...

EDIT2: previously i had assumed innocence, but he is indeed on the mandalor list :X

EDIT3: This explains RandomBum's behavior perfectly... the lack of participation despite "spending most of his time on tl". The lack of faith in the unforgiven lynch.. him perking up once suspected

wow wtf my universe is imploding



My behavior is explained because part of my conditions for using my time on this game was if I was elected mayor. Since I did not receive the position I wanted my interest soon wondered elsewhere. IE If I had ace's job and information I would have been far more active. But acting alone really is a lot less fun. (Unlike you plexa who has associates, and all the information town has).

I'll grant that my lack of faith in unforgiven was rather damning, but if I were mafia don't you think I would have pardoned somebody by now?

Seems like you are trying to force a person on me.
I want to beleive you're not mafia, i really really do...

Obviously, you are in a position of power - so why would you pardon a mafia when that means you look very suspicious should that person turn red. You would want to maintain this secure position from where you can support mafia antics.

Even though you claim your interest waned, its still an interesting correlation

And for the record, I was only let into the circle after d.arkive suicided... i was doing analysis without associates before as well.. over time i acquired allies and we have been working hard together to bring mafia down. Information or not, all it did was save me some time...

Ultimately i dont want to think you're mafia.. but your defense is actually typical of all the mafia thus far haha and theres a substantial amount of evidence pointing your way... e.g. try to explain that mafia train when you ran for mayor? suddenly they all switched votes trying to get you elected

Pending the information i get from Ace regarding whether people actually checked your role - i am going to have to say you're mafia. And i would not do this lightly good sir, you after all hold an extremely valuable role. Your best defense at this point is to show me how the clues connect somewhere else


If I were a mafia pardoner I could easily pardon somebody who some people were against lynching (L). The only way to see if he is red is to keep lynching him (since vigs are dead), whom I could pardon again. Then the only thing left is if the town (which is not entirely sure) wants L dead, they have to lynch me first. Which would sow confusion and distrust, which alone would be worth it if I was mafia. Also, how does being in a position of power (Which isn't all that useful, my only hope of using it is if ace went nuts and used his +6 vote to lynch plexa). If I were to have pardoned a mafia I would have done it early game to keep mafia kill count up.

Ultimately, staying in this position as mafia would help the mafia less than to have a few extra kills for a few more nights.
But the position keeps you "off the radar" (or at least has done). But yes, let's continue to argue you conduct. Myself, Ace and MTF knew L was mafia and if you had stepped in you would have been found out rather easily. This goes for the majority of other lynchings - remember that we scored a number of mafia kills via vigilantes in the early days - proving your pardoning powers useless anyway.

You haven't addressed a number of issues but w/e. As i outlined before we just lynch others and wait for chuiu to force your hand (or mafia killing Ace et al but not you )



Let's just wait then, because to be honest, I don't feel up to trying to out sway the town vs plexa. If you really want to wait to kill me the I'll die, thats sort of it.

Also killing ace but not killing me would not prove me mafia. It would have if you did not mention it, but now that you have mafia might let me live just so the town wastes a lynch on me. Ace would die because he has all the information and can lead the town far better than I can.
It should be fairly easy to tell whether or not the clues stack up with the suspicion and with ~10 nights left (minimum) before town wins there will be plenty of clues involving your character and the link will become clear
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 24 2008 07:46 GMT
#5777
fuck killed by the enigmatic mr pink

oh well

TO VICTORY
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 24 2008 11:26 GMT
#5787
On May 24 2008 17:20 fusionsdf wrote:
holy shit

hi plexa

me and mtf are chilling in mafia heaven want to hang out?

we totally know this whole mafia game inside and out to the point we dont care

and we were all green

and we were all awesome

coincidence?

I think not
ya rofl

us > detectives
us > town
mafia > us
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 26 2008 11:15 GMT
#5835
MY SACRIFICE WAS NOT IN VAIN
/returns to grave
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Last Edited: 2008-05-26 23:46:20
May 26 2008 23:42 GMT
#5846
On May 27 2008 08:38 L wrote:
Mandalor found the list by searching through threads that has his name it in. There was no abuse of TL.net powers, or edit reading.
so what you're saying is mandalor, who was indeed dead, told you he found the list?
just to clarify the post was up around Day 4
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Last Edited: 2008-05-31 05:38:44
May 31 2008 05:11 GMT
#5925
gg Ace
welcome to heaven
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 03 2008 03:38 GMT
#5973
All i can say is

WOOT
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Last Edited: 2008-06-04 11:15:00
June 04 2008 11:02 GMT
#6001
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 17 2008 09:51 GMT
#6219
On June 17 2008 18:46 Camlito wrote:
It is harder for mafia at times yes.

But mafia, imagine this, how would town do without Plexa, Camlito and MTF? detective work is fucking hard...
fixed
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 03 2008 19:42 GMT
#6423
On July 04 2008 02:36 Ace wrote:
for next game can there be a strict time limit on sending in hits for Mafia?

3 months of game time murdered this game.
What i find to be very interesting is that the mafia were active (e.g L, Bockit) yet the lists were late
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 06 2008 04:34 GMT
#6445
oh if only i was living
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 07 2008 11:25 GMT
#6469
On July 07 2008 18:23 randombum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2008 15:09 Chuiu wrote:
Who wants to replace some inactives, eh? Lets get this game over with. Post here if you wish to replace an inactive player (can't revive the dead - sorry).


I have another idea, although those alive won't agree with me, instead of replacing inactives how bout we just say mafia have won? Theres 4 mafia left and a kill power of 3 per night, but theres also only 4 active voters right now... I mean its been a good long game already....

Also, replacing inactives with new people would only serve for some crazy band-wagons the new people will not read 300+ pages of crap to get into this game, far easier for a new game.
wat? for all you know there is an intricate web of detectives/veterans conspiring to bring down the mafia crime syndicate while only showing qrs and nemy fighting each other to save the thread from dying. In reality, they are on the same team and working day and night to crack the last few mafia

+ Show Spoiler +
;; or perhaps not -.-;


but seriously, after all the hours some of the townies have put into this game it would be a travesty if the town were to simply hand over the game to the already beaten mafia -.-;
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Last Edited: 2008-07-08 04:20:53
July 08 2008 04:20 GMT
#6489
btw; http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=74695&currentpage=last
just goes to show what a little mass pm can do
(this is mainly directed at bockit)
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 08 2008 05:03 GMT
#6492
On July 08 2008 13:43 Chuiu wrote:
Wow awesome, I'll get night up right now and see about swapping out some people for new members for day 19.
should've waited imo
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 12 2008 08:18 GMT
#6547
Just so people know, I agree with the mafia... replacing townies was the wrong thing to do.. the game should have been kept closed and mass pm's would have solved the problem..

it's not like the mafia have suffered from inactivity either anyways... i guess back to the game?
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 13 2008 04:24 GMT
#6567
Okay, even though this move was rather retarded in my honest opinion, the next dead person who complains gets a two day temp ban
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-13 04:45:45
July 13 2008 04:44 GMT
#6570
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 05 2008 13:56 GMT
#6887
rofl yea seriously if anything i fucked the town over more than anything !!

fusionsdf was like to me "dude you should take that post down or it will get found" - and i was like roflrofl no one will find it unless they know its there... and well.. =/ damn mandalor and his free time

ultimately Ace was awesome this game - you guys don't know all the behind the scenes work he did; twas awesome.

MTF was a god omfg dude you were so fucking accurate it made me look like shit! Town would have lost if it weren't for you

Camlito served his purpose super well good job as well man even thought the DC lynch went through!! atleast we caught some mafia by that fuckup t.t;;

congrats all round mafia played it super-well as well LTT and L fucked us over so many goddam times t.t;;
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