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On June 09 2024 07:03 Mocsta wrote:
I'm becoming more and more open to lynch outside kelsier
He doesn't looked bullied out to me as his tone is pretty consistent start to finish
I still think his tone specifically to me is more unhelpful mafia than town, however the nonchalantness is somewhat consistent even after which I am.imcreasingly.viewing as townie
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I really don't want to vote Scott for mason stuff
Is there a case outside of that?
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Rsoultin I will give sandroba a read
I think the opposite the less Kelsier does the more I want to lynch him.
Feels like a weird defense here if you don‘t have a particularly strong conviction outside of that.
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On June 07 2024 23:03 sandroba wrote:
Trfel so far seems overly friendly and lighthearted in his tone, and employing an overuse of smiley faces which should definitely be criminalized in this town. It's different from the past 2 games we played where he was town.
This seems silly on a reread.
Makes me feel bad for pestering rsoultin maybe she‘s onto something.
Also makes me feel better about a switch to Kelsier
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I‘m comfy with Az taking the reins here. They seem competent and townish to me.
Them pitting Oats against me was a bit dickish tho
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We can‘t have 4 votes on the loose now cmon thread
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On June 08 2024 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 05:43 sandroba wrote:
I'm getting weird vibes from kelsier too, but it's not overriding my town read from the mocsta interaction. I'd say I'd prefer if we left him be for today wait how do you get town vibes from Kelsier in his Mocsta interaction?
This is a legitimate question so my vote on rayn remains just posturing. I just wanted him to be around more.
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On June 09 2024 07:46 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 07:39 Vivax wrote:
I‘m comfy with Az taking the reins here. They seem competent and townish to me.
Them pitting Oats against me was a bit dickish tho If you do this, He's going to want to lynch me and I'll flip town. Only if you lynch him D2 is this a suitable outcome.
There‘s people I think are around but just choosing not to post. Mocsta and him would be my guess.
I‘m moving to Kelsier. He doesn‘t appear motivated anyway.
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Sometimes I just like to tickle you a bit Mocsta.
Missed you tbh. I also know you have a decent scumgame.
I‘ve been fucked almost every single time I thought someone was too scummy to be scum so Kelsier is an okay lynch.
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On June 09 2024 08:09 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 08:04 rsoultin wrote:
what makes sandy 'far from ideal' compared to another null read like slam? i'm assuming null correct me if i'm wrong I actually think the Alakaslam self conscious thing is a legit reason. Maybe it's stupid, I know it's unproven, but it's at least a theory I consider worth investigating. Also I think having more time/material with which to read sandroba would benefit me, and I can't say the same for Alakaslam. Side note, I am kinda getting hesitant about the Kelsi3r lynch, especially seeing that Grackaroni is looking for a replacement. If something happened to Kelsi3r forcing him to replace out at the wrong time, I can see that making him look really suspicious but actually being town. But even the Kelsi3r thing with doubts seems better to me than the other options right now. Will keep thinking about it.
That‘s very considerate of you but would also overcomplicate the game if enacted.
That‘s why we don‘t talk about replacements.
Just ride imo
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On June 09 2024 08:16 rsoultin wrote:
i'd also be very, very surprised if there wasn't scum between sandy, kelsier and scott. i know that surprises literally no one but still
It‘s tough when the nonvoters + sandro seem to be mia at the same time.
Sandro‘s thought process that I quoted would be hard to fake though. It‘s always a bit complicated tho
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On June 09 2024 08:30 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 08:13 rsoultin wrote:
i'd argue the slam lynch tells us nothing if he's scum? i don't hate it but i also don't think you're going to learn much from it whereas people have taken stances on sandy throughout the game
same with kelsier and scott
like even if we mislynch that's way more information because we were all talking about them to some extent than lynching the absent person. you mentioned the self-conscious thing before are there like specific games you're getting that from (sorry if i missed that part) This is terrible reasoning. Let’s not lynch scum because it tells us nothing. You would take that every time day one given the chance.
And do you think he‘s scum?
Hard to say for me with the low input.
Rayn seemed to think he was town.
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On June 09 2024 08:36 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 08:33 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2024 08:30 AlphaZero wrote:On June 09 2024 08:13 rsoultin wrote:
i'd argue the slam lynch tells us nothing if he's scum? i don't hate it but i also don't think you're going to learn much from it whereas people have taken stances on sandy throughout the game
same with kelsier and scott
like even if we mislynch that's way more information because we were all talking about them to some extent than lynching the absent person. you mentioned the self-conscious thing before are there like specific games you're getting that from (sorry if i missed that part) This is terrible reasoning. Let’s not lynch scum because it tells us nothing. You would take that every time day one given the chance. And do you think he‘s scum? Hard to say for me with the low input. Rayn seemed to think he was town. I’m not commenting on that. I’m commenting on the reasoning which was off.
Yeah and blarantly so.
But it‘s meaningless if you don‘t post it with the intention of turning it into action.
You either want to call rsoultin or Slam mafia afterwards otherwise it was just a waste of energy.
And you don‘t want to look like that‘s your purpose for the tame.
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In my opinion it was just a superficially scummy thing to say. A scummer would be too afraid to phase it like that.
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On June 09 2024 08:41 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 06:26 scott31337 wrote:On June 09 2024 06:10 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 09 2024 05:59 marvellosity wrote:
Inactivity of a few players is going to kill us here tbh.
D1 hard enough without missing a handful. Sorry, I'll have more time tomorrow and will play properly. Besides, I'm not so happy with both wagons. Well you still need to vote too Who would you like to lynch today in a perfect world? Tbr i would like to lynch az. Also I hate the first lynch after it it always gets easier. Most of the time lynch 1 is misslynch anway. I am stucking at work with a group of austrian mafia, good that tomorrow they are gone. Scott i don't really townread you but for now I don't want to lynch, I rather take K who is more inactiv and I think it would be a more logical lynch. I am really sorry for beeing this inactiv today. Tomorrow I will be here ##vote k
Townie post :-)
Az and Oats just dropped a lot in my book.
But that‘s for another day
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What I like about scott is that he seemed pretty genuine as of late. He isn‘t really trying every trick in the book to keep himself afloat just doing his thing.
Kelsier might have given up as either alignment.
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On June 09 2024 08:47 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 08:45 Vivax wrote:
What I like about scott is that he seemed pretty genuine as of late. He isn‘t really trying every trick in the book to keep himself afloat just doing his thing.
Kelsier might have given up as either alignment. town can also not want to be mislynched.. is this 'effort'notion a scott meta thing?
The point is that aside from his list, he hasn‘t posted anything that would look like sudden forced effort.
I got the opposite vibe from az as of late.
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On June 09 2024 09:16 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 09:14 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2024 08:47 Mocsta wrote:On June 09 2024 08:45 Vivax wrote:
What I like about scott is that he seemed pretty genuine as of late. He isn‘t really trying every trick in the book to keep himself afloat just doing his thing.
Kelsier might have given up as either alignment. town can also not want to be mislynched.. is this 'effort'notion a scott meta thing? The point is that aside from his list, he hasn‘t posted anything that would look like sudden forced effort. I got the opposite vibe from az as of late. You fail to understand the difference in context . I only need to make an effort because I I care about the lynch.
In my opinion you pulled off the leader card very effectively in the beginning but you're losing steam.
I don*t necessarily think you're paired with Kelsier even moreso if the dichotomy Scott-Kels is TvT, then you have all the more reason to drop off over time as neither outcome affects your survival if that's the case.
What stuck out to me is your indifference towards absent players when your self proclaimed interest into finding the correct lynch requires their presence.
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On June 09 2024 09:22 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 09:21 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2024 09:16 AlphaZero wrote:On June 09 2024 09:14 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2024 08:47 Mocsta wrote:On June 09 2024 08:45 Vivax wrote:
What I like about scott is that he seemed pretty genuine as of late. He isn‘t really trying every trick in the book to keep himself afloat just doing his thing.
Kelsier might have given up as either alignment. town can also not want to be mislynched.. is this 'effort'notion a scott meta thing? The point is that aside from his list, he hasn‘t posted anything that would look like sudden forced effort. I got the opposite vibe from az as of late. You fail to understand the difference in context . I only need to make an effort because I I care about the lynch. In my opinion you pulled off the leader card very effectively in the beginning but you're losing steam. I don*t necessarily think you're paired with Kelsier even moreso if the dichotomy Scott-Kels is TvT, then you have all the more reason to drop off over time as neither outcome affects your survival if that's the case. What stuck out to me is your indifference towards absent players when your self proclaimed interest into finding the correct lynch requires their presence. What do you want me to do about that. I’m not into lynching a lurker day one.
He‘s not a lurker ? He leaves enough room for interpretation, it comes down to whether you belive that mafia acts like mafia.
Leaving those alive makes it very hard to pursue their lynch at a later time so if we‘re going to lynch him, we have to do it now.
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On June 09 2024 09:29 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 09:18 Mocsta wrote:
one underlying issue i have with scott is that
when he was getting heat and i backed him, he made some posts that soft buddied to me.. which i thought was completely reasonable if town.
my issue therefore is that, as my read with AZ has shifted and evolved, hes not paid attention (publicly at least) to it.. no comments or impact on scotts AZ read is very weird to me.
now scott says hes completely up to date, so its been read, and apparently not relevant - so again. i find this super super weird and struggling to identify how town would do that. AZ is not the lynch today unless everyone expands their mind. So forgive me for not spending the energy nested into such. But he's my #2 still - so help me out - maybe I missed a point of yours.
Excuse me but what do you mean by the bolded.
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On June 09 2024 09:19 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 09:04 AlphaZero wrote:On June 09 2024 08:59 Mocsta wrote:On June 09 2024 08:58 rsoultin wrote:On June 09 2024 08:47 Mocsta wrote:On June 09 2024 08:45 Vivax wrote:
What I like about scott is that he seemed pretty genuine as of late. He isn‘t really trying every trick in the book to keep himself afloat just doing his thing.
Kelsier might have given up as either alignment. town can also not want to be mislynched.. is this 'effort'notion a scott meta thing? at the risk of answering for viva if scum's gonna keep posting they want to either 1) try to get the lynch off them 2) shit up the thread or they just roll over i guess there's the third option of trying to get more attention so it's off a scummate if you've got two scum up for lynch? i wouldn't say that's what scott's posting looks like. guy's been scumread from minute 1 and still is just bebopping around salient notion alphazero - where does that sit with you? Well he is trying to survive, to me he just continues to exhibit the traits that o find scummy and I outlined above. Says things and can’t provide foundations or reasoning that can really be taken seriously. We can even contrast that with your own play, you have looked substantially more town aligned the more you interacted and explained thought processes and your reads have changed and grown as that has happened. Scott’s reads haven’t changed and he hasn’t looked any better. That is classic mafia trait imo. I favor Oats more than the last magical time you are making up. That's a change of read. Rsoul is a little higher on my list as well. Trfel isn't going to change much today unless he does something stupid. What's there to change on DMB,sandroba, and Alakaslam? They haven't posted. Marv isn't coming back tonight from his word. Kelsi3r - nuff said Mocsta - I still town read him even if he gets junk from other people. Is still thinking reasonable, unlike yourself. Vivax - I wouldn't lynch today either.
On June 09 2024 09:38 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2024 09:33 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2024 09:29 scott31337 wrote:On June 09 2024 09:18 Mocsta wrote:
one underlying issue i have with scott is that
when he was getting heat and i backed him, he made some posts that soft buddied to me.. which i thought was completely reasonable if town.
my issue therefore is that, as my read with AZ has shifted and evolved, hes not paid attention (publicly at least) to it.. no comments or impact on scotts AZ read is very weird to me.
now scott says hes completely up to date, so its been read, and apparently not relevant - so again. i find this super super weird and struggling to identify how town would do that. AZ is not the lynch today unless everyone expands their mind. So forgive me for not spending the energy nested into such. But he's my #2 still - so help me out - maybe I missed a point of yours. Excuse me but what do you mean by the bolded. Town.
Yes. I'm town. But that doesn't answer the question.
If you're so convinced we should lynch AZ which I suppose you are by saying that the mind of town is closed, why isn't he in the list ?
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On June 09 2024 09:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote Kelsi3r
This was a ninja btw.
I voted scott again based on what I think is a recent bad blunder.
+ Show Spoiler +And I also think I know who tried to impersonate me, and probably made me appear worse than I was. But that‘s game unrelated. Sucks for them when I decided to not make them want to be me
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