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marvellosity
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I know the conclusion you’re getting at, I’m just not sure I totally believe it. Which I know sounds dumb, because kels flipping town shouldn’t force me to look at Scott as townier. Dunno there was just something about Scott’s posting last night. I should reread it sober but I’m lazy so I won’t. To be honest I’m very irritated Scott has twice ignored my question to him - the “why would scum marv” do that question. Scott - I am still waiting on your take little buddy | ||
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marvellosity
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On June 09 2024 17:57 marvellosity wrote: I know the conclusion you’re getting at, I’m just not sure I totally believe it. Which I know sounds dumb, because kels flipping town shouldn’t force me to look at Scott as townier. Dunno there was just something about Scott’s posting last night. I should reread it sober but I’m lazy so I won’t. To be honest I’m very irritated Scott has twice ignored my question to him - the “why would scum marv” do that question. Scott - I am still waiting on your take little buddy I’m also aware this post is a giant walking contradiction, but here we are. | ||
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marvellosity
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On June 09 2024 17:59 AlphaZero wrote: Well if you think Scott is town then you need to look at me and sand more closely. Because splitting the wagons makes much more sense I remember last time I played a bit drunk I found it difficult to get over how DMB couldn’t make a coherent argument on why Vivax was mafia in the mayor game, given Vivax had claimed Jk. I was nk and naturally DMB turned out town, just had a totally illogical Vivax read. The Scott thing last night gives me shades of that a bit | ||
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marvellosity
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On June 09 2024 17:59 AlphaZero wrote: Well if you think Scott is town then you need to look at me and sand more closely. Because splitting the wagons makes much more sense The problem is I can’t see sand’s posts as scummy as I don’t think they are. I think investment/activity is a better metric for sand than for most, so it will have to be that basis i proceed on I am sort of just assuming you’re DP, in all honesty. Which actually makes it more likely you can be mafia here. But it’s hard to see or explore that when you’re invested and you think things that I think 🤷♂️ | ||
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marvellosity
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On June 09 2024 18:04 AlphaZero wrote: Here is the thing. His top scum read and the lynch he was pushing flipped town. And his reads didn’t change AT ALL. It was just, let’s keep lynching down my list. Which as it happens has another townie at the top. Even for bad players that’s not a normal response as town. Okay so maybe I do have to reread a little lol | ||
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marvellosity
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Then you are less likely to be mafia then | ||
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marvellosity
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I don’t think I do. He did a number on me as mafia a couple games ago. He’s good at talking to me and saying things in a natural manner, pretty much unlike almost anyone else as mafia. And obviously capable of hilarious levels of activity/investment. Hope he’s not reading this, hate throwing the dude a compliment | ||
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marvellosity
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On June 09 2024 20:32 Oatsmaster wrote: That’s not what it means at all? There are at least 4 town on the kel wagon It could mean that mafia didn’t care who got lynched or they didn’t want to have to explain their Scott!town vote Yes, this can all be true. | ||
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marvellosity
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marvellosity
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Her reason for tr Scott was weak | ||
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marvellosity
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On June 09 2024 20:56 Oatsmaster wrote: She did this in the long game too but she was wrong/town Same lack of reasoning? | ||
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marvellosity
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It’s what makes it really tricky to figure out the motivations behind it | ||
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marvellosity
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I said earlier in the game I didn’t believe in rayn/slam mafia but tbh there’s literally no reason why not really at this stage | ||
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marvellosity
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No such thing. I’m not saying it’s necessarily the case but if it is then neither of them were in any (real) danger yet. | ||
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marvellosity
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AZ Vivax Oats Sand Mocsta Scott DMB Koshi Rayn Slam Let’s say this is a very rough order because beyond near the top a lot can move about. And it doesn’t even really mean I think slam is most likely to be mafia either. I just didn’t know where else to put him. Who do you guys reckon I’ve got quite a lot wrong? | ||
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marvellosity
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On June 09 2024 21:36 Trfel wrote: @AlphaZero, for what it's worth I wasn't trying to "lead" anything. @marvellosity, I'd consider lowering sandroba for sure. Maybe Vivax too but he might be fine there (I'm probably just paranoid). And I honestly would put Koshi higher, which I know you don't want to hear. Could be wrong, the one game I played with mafia!Koshi had the slight issue of me also being mafia so I didn't play, so idk what mafia!Koshi is like, but if I had to guess I don't think it would be this. @Oatsmaster, why wouldn't the reverse apply? Like, why wouldn't mafia be happy lynching town!Kelsi3r and saving the town!scott31337 lynch for tomorrow? I have sort of a… privileged? view of Koshi in that I’ve played with him a million times and I sort of know what he should or shouldn’t be thinking if that makes sense. It’s hard to externalise this for others though, but I think you can see what I’m getting at by the posts I’ve directed at him this phase. By contrast, the triumvirate in the middle (moc, Scott, DMB) I find it extremely difficult to walk in their shoes which makes them very challenging for me | ||
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marvellosity
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On June 09 2024 21:42 Trfel wrote: Maybe Mocsta is mafia, definitely worth considering. I might not be scared enough of his scum play. I just have a soft spot for the way he posts tbh. It's hard to really figure out his alignment because we think so differently tbh. His willingness to switch reads and try different angles makes me think he is town, but I suppose he could fake that as mafia. I’m glad we can at least have a conversation about it at some stage. Although that’s making some nk assumptions xD | ||
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marvellosity
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On June 09 2024 22:01 Trfel wrote: Oh, I also think that some (a decent amount really) of Koshi's reasoning seems far-fetched, at least to me. My take is that Koshi actually believes it though? It's just very hard for me to say that someone can't possibly believe what they say they believe, I think that argument requires you to know someone really really well, and unless you really know what you are doing, you're far more likely to be wrong. For example, I think that argument (this person should know better) was useful for catching mafia!raynpelikoneet a few games back, after he hard defended mafia!die_meatbaby and gave himself away in doing so. But that's a special case because I know raynpelikoneet was a strong player and he went to extreme lengths trying to keep die_meatbaby alive. Maybe you can make judgements like that about Koshi, I certainly am not capable of it. Yes, that’s fair. I do think I can make judgments like that about Koshi is the net of it | ||
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marvellosity
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On June 09 2024 22:03 Trfel wrote: I mean we can talk about it now? xD I haven’t got much to moan about mocstas recent posting in all honesty. Tbh maybe just take the stuff I’ve brought up previously and approach it with the mindset that he’s not town for the reasons you previously thought and see where that takes you? | ||
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