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Ok so here is where I am at:
It’s jealous and dmb that part is easy.
Just need to figure out which of mz and JAT is the last.
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On March 20 2024 09:44 DarthPunk wrote:
There is a bit of a dichotomy between DMB calling herself 'bad town' and also thinking we are all noobs and she is the only one to nail the scum team.
I just accept my death as Town dmb who can´t defend myself because of my bad filter because I don´t give a fuck if something looks scummy when I write.
And I am just so sure who is mafia because there are almost no other options left anymore. I found out earlier in the game than most of the others, that makes me proud of myself even when we see tomorrow that only 2 of 3 reads are correct, I am still happy.
I told this since days why I think it´s you and also told why I am thinking that the oracle is mafia.
Nobody cared, nobody listen so why should I invest time again and make again the reads.
Also I kinda want to read the obs. Because you killed all the nice people and I have to stay here with you-.-
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Day Six Vote Count
die_meatbaby (4): Jealous, Rels, DarthPunk, justanothertownie, iamperfection, Meapak_Ziphh
Jealous (3): die_meatbaby, iamperfection, Justanothertownie, die_meatbaby
DarthPunk (0): die_meatbaby,
With 4 votes, die_meatbaby is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Thursday, Mar 21 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
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On March 20 2024 09:52 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2024 09:44 DarthPunk wrote:
There is a bit of a dichotomy between DMB calling herself 'bad town' and also thinking we are all noobs and she is the only one to nail the scum team. I just accept my death as Town dmb who can´t defend myself because of my bad filter because I don´t give a fuck if something looks scummy when I write. And I am just so sure who is mafia because there are almost no other options left anymore. I found out earlier in the game than most of the others, that makes me proud of myself even when we see tomorrow that only 2 of 3 reads are correct, I am still happy. I told this since days why I think it´s you and also told why I am thinking that the oracle is mafia. Nobody cared, nobody listen so why should I invest time again and make again the reads. Also I kinda want to read the obs. Because you killed all the nice people and I have to stay here with you-.-
i thought you said jealous was for sure scum so how can you say nobody listening he has 3 votes right now.
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On March 20 2024 09:58 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2024 09:52 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 20 2024 09:44 DarthPunk wrote:
There is a bit of a dichotomy between DMB calling herself 'bad town' and also thinking we are all noobs and she is the only one to nail the scum team. I just accept my death as Town dmb who can´t defend myself because of my bad filter because I don´t give a fuck if something looks scummy when I write. And I am just so sure who is mafia because there are almost no other options left anymore. I found out earlier in the game than most of the others, that makes me proud of myself even when we see tomorrow that only 2 of 3 reads are correct, I am still happy. I told this since days why I think it´s you and also told why I am thinking that the oracle is mafia. Nobody cared, nobody listen so why should I invest time again and make again the reads. Also I kinda want to read the obs. Because you killed all the nice people and I have to stay here with you-.- i thought you said jealous was for sure scum so how can you say nobody listening he has 3 votes right now.
It’s continued appeal to emotion obviously
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On March 20 2024 09:58 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2024 09:52 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 20 2024 09:44 DarthPunk wrote:
There is a bit of a dichotomy between DMB calling herself 'bad town' and also thinking we are all noobs and she is the only one to nail the scum team. I just accept my death as Town dmb who can´t defend myself because of my bad filter because I don´t give a fuck if something looks scummy when I write. And I am just so sure who is mafia because there are almost no other options left anymore. I found out earlier in the game than most of the others, that makes me proud of myself even when we see tomorrow that only 2 of 3 reads are correct, I am still happy. I told this since days why I think it´s you and also told why I am thinking that the oracle is mafia. Nobody cared, nobody listen so why should I invest time again and make again the reads. Also I kinda want to read the obs. Because you killed all the nice people and I have to stay here with you-.- i thought you said jealous was for sure scum so how can you say nobody listening he has 3 votes right now.
Because the game is over us.
We will not get 3 mafia lynchs in a row
Even when we lynch J today and he is scum and I am right
I still could not handle another 2 days conviencing town here that I am Town
I would be the misslynch anyway when it is not today then nice that I could defent myself from scum dp for 1 day but I will get lynched d2 or at the latest in three days if we come this far.
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On March 20 2024 09:59 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2024 09:58 iamperfection wrote:On March 20 2024 09:52 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 20 2024 09:44 DarthPunk wrote:
There is a bit of a dichotomy between DMB calling herself 'bad town' and also thinking we are all noobs and she is the only one to nail the scum team. I just accept my death as Town dmb who can´t defend myself because of my bad filter because I don´t give a fuck if something looks scummy when I write. And I am just so sure who is mafia because there are almost no other options left anymore. I found out earlier in the game than most of the others, that makes me proud of myself even when we see tomorrow that only 2 of 3 reads are correct, I am still happy. I told this since days why I think it´s you and also told why I am thinking that the oracle is mafia. Nobody cared, nobody listen so why should I invest time again and make again the reads. Also I kinda want to read the obs. Because you killed all the nice people and I have to stay here with you-.- i thought you said jealous was for sure scum so how can you say nobody listening he has 3 votes right now. It’s continued appeal to emotion obviously
It´s just Town DMB giving up because we can not win this game anymore anyways
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On March 20 2024 09:51 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2024 09:46 Jealous wrote:On March 20 2024 09:43 DarthPunk wrote:On March 20 2024 09:42 Jealous wrote:On March 14 2024 11:38 iamperfection wrote:A lot of things have bothered me today. CopCake makes a case on Koshi and then just almost instantly drops it just because JAT says thats how Koshi plays and then votes Palmar. Why does cop just accept as true it confuses me. Meapak_Ziphh comes back after 19 hours says hes too tired to be bothered to do anything but he has found scum? and is somehow not voting???? I keep hearing this idiotic comment that marv said Palmar is 90% likely to be town. I get it you guys all worship marv but his word isnt gospel and he very well would probably be saying different things if he was still alive its day 4 now marv died in night 2. Palmar really bothers me. He calls me scum because i have just been around not doing anything?? Like i said earlier you can say a lot of things about me but not engaged and not in the thick of things is certainly not one of them. I exposed the mason circle and tried to get reads from it. I correctly deduced that Rayn had to be town from the way he used it and almost immediately tried to make him mayor for it. Right or wrong i was screaming at the top of my longs to lynch tryfel it was wrong but so what. I have constantly been directing and calling out actions. I literally hammered VE in a quest for personal glory it backfired so what. To say i have been just around is objectively wrong. Now Palmar says he dosnt really read the thread that he just shows hes around interacts and develops reads. I dont really feel like has done that all in this game. I think if anyone with a quarter of a brain which ill grant Palmar he has a quarter of a brain could easily use meta to see i am town. This would be by FAR the largest filter i have ever had as mafia. I would also say i am much less emotional as mafia and much more reserved. My style as town requires me to post a ton and usually in quick succession. Thats why i will have mind melds which happened earlier with marv where we said the same thing. As mafia that is extremely hard for me to replicate. At least for a long period. Also as mafia its very hard for me to long posts like this were i have to fake my thoughts i just have hard time to do it. So those long list posts and posts were i collect my thoughts like i had earlier and this one quite frankly are hard for me to do. I dont think Palmar is trying figure out my alignment because he is being bad or more likely just mafia. Now do i think JAT could possibly be mafia. Yes its possible he had a post earlier where he almost knew that Koshi was mafia. {but iamperfection you said earlier that Koshi is likely town) well first of all stfu second there is a diffrence between knowing and thinking. On March 14 2024 04:32 justanothertownie wrote:On March 14 2024 04:30 iamperfection wrote:On March 14 2024 04:28 Koshi wrote:On March 12 2024 12:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Man what the fuck.
This game is going to be extremely hard if townies are gonna self-vote, I feel like that's playing against your wincon. I absolutely hate martyring so pointlessly. I think that was still 100% the right lynch.
And now we're gonna have to solve the CopCake problem since she did exactly the same thing. She voted herself and peaced out when the vote was 7-4 with VE in the lead. Her vote made it 6-5, still with VE in the lead. She showed no problems with leaving her vote on randos the previous two days, and if she was scum, she had a safe place to park her vote on VE or a rando as nobody would have scumread her any harder than they already were for voting to save herself. Now granted, she didn't hammer herself, the closest she ever got was 7-6 against her 2 hours later. So, did town!cake just rage quit in the exact same manner that VE did? Or did scum!cake take a gamble, not realizing how close it was going to get? If it's the second option, Rel's desperation to save her pretty much guarantees him as scum in my eyes, but I still don't know if I can wrap my head around scum!cake doing that because the vote is so close I'd argue that's pretty close to intentionally throwing. Or maybe it's all #bigplays that I'm too stupid to understand.
I have a decent amount of thread to fully catch up on after just skimming to get through it, I focused more on the voting thread to try and figure out wtf both VE and cake were doing. I'm not surprised to see there were more shenanigans by certain people. I will also have a go at reading VE's filter although idk if there's much of a point. What a town hero does. Analyse. I kind of disagree. Feel like he just summed up what happened and listed every scenario. I don't think it's super town post. You won't convince him. At this point Koshi is not reading MZs posts critically anymore. not the biggest thing but the post bothers me. He also seems a bit apathetic to what is going on. So yes i think its possible. MZ's comeback post also bothers me and the fact that he isnt voting despite finding scum On March 14 2024 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm home, had a shit day so I really don't have the energy to jump into filters right now, especially since I've already found 1 scum at minimum this cycle. I'll hang around the thread and play some league if people want my opinions on anything just ask. However in my eyes Palmar is the most likely mafia. Can someone make a bulletpoint explanation for why this makes iamp town again? Its the self meta analysis, which i am vouching for. Doesn't mean much to me tbh. Seems more like he casts aspersions against a bunch of town, throws a soft scum read at JAT/MZ, and then parks on town!Palmar in the end anyway. wtf then you are mafia
Alright, good talk.
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On March 20 2024 10:03 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2024 09:58 iamperfection wrote:On March 20 2024 09:52 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 20 2024 09:44 DarthPunk wrote:
There is a bit of a dichotomy between DMB calling herself 'bad town' and also thinking we are all noobs and she is the only one to nail the scum team. I just accept my death as Town dmb who can´t defend myself because of my bad filter because I don´t give a fuck if something looks scummy when I write. And I am just so sure who is mafia because there are almost no other options left anymore. I found out earlier in the game than most of the others, that makes me proud of myself even when we see tomorrow that only 2 of 3 reads are correct, I am still happy. I told this since days why I think it´s you and also told why I am thinking that the oracle is mafia. Nobody cared, nobody listen so why should I invest time again and make again the reads. Also I kinda want to read the obs. Because you killed all the nice people and I have to stay here with you-.- i thought you said jealous was for sure scum so how can you say nobody listening he has 3 votes right now. Because the game is over us. We will not get 3 mafia lynchs in a row Even when we lynch J today and he is scum and I am right I still could not handle another 2 days conviencing town here that I am Town I would be the misslynch anyway when it is not today then nice that I could defent myself from scum dp for 1 day but I will get lynched d2 or at the latest in three days if we come this far.
great attitude if town.
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On March 20 2024 09:52 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2024 09:44 DarthPunk wrote:
There is a bit of a dichotomy between DMB calling herself 'bad town' and also thinking we are all noobs and she is the only one to nail the scum team. I just accept my death as Town dmb who can´t defend myself because of my bad filter because I don´t give a fuck if something looks scummy when I write. And I am just so sure who is mafia because there are almost no other options left anymore. I found out earlier in the game than most of the others, that makes me proud of myself even when we see tomorrow that only 2 of 3 reads are correct, I am still happy. I told this since days why I think it´s you and also told why I am thinking that the oracle is mafia. Nobody cared, nobody listen so why should I invest time again and make again the reads. Also I kinda want to read the obs. Because you killed all the nice people and I have to stay here with you-.-
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On March 20 2024 10:07 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2024 10:03 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 20 2024 09:58 iamperfection wrote:On March 20 2024 09:52 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 20 2024 09:44 DarthPunk wrote:
There is a bit of a dichotomy between DMB calling herself 'bad town' and also thinking we are all noobs and she is the only one to nail the scum team. I just accept my death as Town dmb who can´t defend myself because of my bad filter because I don´t give a fuck if something looks scummy when I write. And I am just so sure who is mafia because there are almost no other options left anymore. I found out earlier in the game than most of the others, that makes me proud of myself even when we see tomorrow that only 2 of 3 reads are correct, I am still happy. I told this since days why I think it´s you and also told why I am thinking that the oracle is mafia. Nobody cared, nobody listen so why should I invest time again and make again the reads. Also I kinda want to read the obs. Because you killed all the nice people and I have to stay here with you-.- i thought you said jealous was for sure scum so how can you say nobody listening he has 3 votes right now. Because the game is over us. We will not get 3 mafia lynchs in a row Even when we lynch J today and he is scum and I am right I still could not handle another 2 days conviencing town here that I am Town I would be the misslynch anyway when it is not today then nice that I could defent myself from scum dp for 1 day but I will get lynched d2 or at the latest in three days if we come this far. great attitude if town.
sorry
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lets leave it how it is figure out what to do tomorrow give everyone a chance to respond.
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Finally around. But I caught up on my phone earlier, noted some posts that I wanted to react too
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On March 19 2024 14:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
OK I reread the night post and beyond as best I could but I'm not really seeing anything that directly addresses my question, since Palmar was town, why does DMB do what she did?
I'm not gonna argue she looks absolutely terrible yesterday, but it's mylo so I want to be certain of my vote when I place it. Rels please address why scum DMB does what she did when town Palmar was available for her to vote for and probably not end up in the spotlight the same way she is right now. Also does vivax flip change any of how you're reading?
I'm going to feel like I've committed a deep wound to my honor if I don't sheep Vivax like i said I would, especially after he died and isn't here to lead that lynch.
Is the question, why didn't she push Palmar? My guess is that it was a play together with Jealous to appear like partners not really wanting to push each other. If that's true, that was really beautifully played
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On March 20 2024 05:17 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2024 05:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 20 2024 05:06 iamperfection wrote:
Why did you vote Jealous immediately at start of day? Just about to ask this myself, kinda feels like she's opportunistically trying to vote whoever she thinks others will follow her on. Vivax had jealous lined up last night, maybe she thought more would bite, I was certainly leaning that way initially. And now the DP vote since that got traction yesterday. Won't be surprised if she tries Rels later. The trick is going to be figuring out if she's bussing or just trying to throw us off her teammates for tomorrow. I still think Jealous is a reasonable teammate for her to have, one of the only ways yesterday makes sense. Eh I don't think dmb would think that for either alignment.
What's the "that" in that sentence? I didn't get it
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On March 20 2024 05:33 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2024 05:21 justanothertownie wrote:
DMB, can you please explain to me why you think Rels is mafia. Just pretend I was some outside spectator who did not read a single page of this game. Look at the voting filter. He always voted the right person, his filter is perfect. Am I fucking wrong to get paranoid about such a perfect filter. If you are town you just fucking write you opinion and there is always a wrong thougt and a wrong vote included as Town. The filter was to perfect to be Town. Reading the filter is like talking to a clairvoyant. Then the thread got attention to his TMI Filter so he voted on Town Palmar to not look like a oracle of delphi anymore.
Again with this point. Not only is it not true, but even if it were, unless you show what read I couldn't have made as scum, it doesn't make sense
Here is an example: I thought your Palmar townread yesterday was too good for the given explanation:
On March 18 2024 10:21 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2024 10:20 Rels wrote:On March 18 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 18 2024 10:07 Vivax wrote:On March 18 2024 10:02 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 18 2024 09:55 Vivax wrote:On March 18 2024 09:49 iamperfection wrote:On March 18 2024 09:47 Vivax wrote:
I don‘t know if I can survive more of this game without getting put into a straitjacket.
Maybe I should do what others do and mislynch someone. Stop being so ambitious about the game.
Let Jello live? I‘d have proven my point anyway so what do you want to do. Lynch Palmar. He did say something super scummy earlier he called me a good player i genuinely don't think he believes that lol. I'll keep my vote here but I'll stop fighting and be mad if you change your mind. It was a good battle, I'm spent. I think I prefer harmony now. did you read his old towngame where I posted a link? did you compare that? can you untunnel J for like 10 minutes and finally do something for this town and not working like our rl mayjor??? Compare this this one old game with this now. Tell me I am wrong! Tell me pls why I am wrong? This is basiclly the same how he plays here The only way for me to untunnel the way you‘d like me to is by tunneling DP instead and I‘m not going to start doing that one hour before DL. Grack already told us he‘s scum either way great that means you did not read this old game with a 7 page filter and and the game had only about 90 pages. But okey don´t look up his meta. Sorry I forgot a major can not get his ass to take 10 minutes to read this one game of him. I hope you are right with J. We can not misslynch another town 3 times in raw. Say the person that literally has the power to save him right there right now Why do you townread Palmar again? He behaves as the same dickhead as last game. and I refuse do vote on any wagon thats pushed and made by DP
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On March 20 2024 06:21 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2024 06:18 iamperfection wrote:On March 20 2024 05:48 justanothertownie wrote:On March 20 2024 05:41 iamperfection wrote:On March 15 2024 11:07 Jealous wrote:On March 15 2024 11:05 iamperfection wrote:
so it was tvt. So i still cant wrap around a scum rels doing that at the end right near the hammer. ^ Person who breathed the biggest sigh of relief in the room IMO. And do you think he may have slipped here too? How is this one a slip? To your other point - I also found that a bit weird. I would only breathe a sigh of relief if I'm town. Therefore he knows I'm town. You'd breathe a sigh of relief as either alignment because that makes your decision more likely to come from town than from scum (because it'd be fucking stupid as scum) and thus less of a reason to suspect/lynch you regardless of your alignment.
Really weird logic there to justify the joke, so maybe good point in retrospect by iamperfection. The joke was fine IMO, but this new explanation doesn't make sense. If iamperfection is scum, he would know already that he'll gain that towncred sooner or later
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On March 20 2024 06:51 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2024 06:47 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 20 2024 06:43 Jealous wrote:On March 20 2024 06:40 justanothertownie wrote:On March 20 2024 06:36 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 20 2024 06:33 justanothertownie wrote:
Thats amazing. Doesnt matter if real or fake. Why is that amazing? Because it is really funny to me to imagine someone being so mad that individual sentences are written in a different language. And if you just made that up its still almost as funny. It is so alien to me. When I stub my toe I still curse in Russian so I guess it makes sense to some extent, but I feel like with a keyboard in the way and having to switch languages in order to make it happen, it just feels unnatural tbh. I would never be so mad that I don't notice that I switched languages, because that is a highly intentional thing to do on a keyboard or phone. I call BS. I really didn´t think so much about the language at this moment. I just wrote aggressively my thougths about this stupid town with this non sense voting shitshow and maybe switched in both languages. I am used to switch fast language, because I talk to my work colleagues and some guests english as well, but as we speak here german and with have german speaking guests as well, I have to switch fast all the time. But you don't use a keyboard for that though, for a keyboard you have to either press a certain specific key combination in order to achieve or use your mouse to do manually in your OS, so you were calm enough to turn German on and then off again with a very specific and accuracy-dependent method, but mad enough to write in German? Ok. Btw writing and speaking utilize some different parts of the brain so making the argument that because you switch in your daily speaking life is not a great one for that reason, too.
I loved this post so much
And BTW I kinda agree with Jealous, the german thing is kinda like the forced dumbtell D2, I can more likely see scum!DMB faking it than it being genuine
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On March 20 2024 09:44 DarthPunk wrote:
There is a bit of a dichotomy between DMB calling herself 'bad town' and also thinking we are all noobs and she is the only one to nail the scum team.
Agree
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And to answer JAT, I didn't see anything from DMB that couldn't come from scum. I disagree that the dumb tunnel and aggressiveness cannot come from scum!her, since she was similar in the other scum game she played
I also think Jealous is scum though, also didn't see anything that would have changed my mind, not a fan of most of his posts today, ironically except the ones on DMB (I guess it's easier when you have to case an actual scum ...)
Would prefer a DMB flip today, but whatever happens while I'm away tomorrow, I'll vote with the majority. I'll be around for the lynch, on my phone in the worst case
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