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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 18 2024 01:46 GMT
#10101
On March 18 2024 10:44 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:42 Vivax wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:30 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: DP


You are voting with your scum read that is lock mafia according to you you realise?


Yeah because I feel awful after hammering on him all day.

You on the other hand gave me reason to feel less awful if I lynched you


Wait so you are doing this because I yelled at you?

You realise as mafia my strat is to pocket the townies right.

Whatever you want tho vivax.

Honestly.


No I took it personally that you manipulated me specifically into voting copcake.
And you didn‘t give a fuck about it afterwards.

So now you're trying to lynch him rather than your scumread who you now "feel bad for"?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 18 2024 01:46 GMT
#10102
On March 18 2024 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
And people why we haven't lynched scum this game.

This is exactly how scum like Palmar get away.

why do you townread dp so strong?
why would he shoot TTS?
Why would mafia not roleblock him if they know that he as a gun as he claimed it.
Why is this gun making him so fucking town and why is he not getting nk when he this much townconfirmed
how does that make sense?
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 18 2024 01:46 GMT
#10103
On March 18 2024 10:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 10:44 Vivax wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:42 Vivax wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:30 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: DP


You are voting with your scum read that is lock mafia according to you you realise?


Yeah because I feel awful after hammering on him all day.

You on the other hand gave me reason to feel less awful if I lynched you


Wait so you are doing this because I yelled at you?

You realise as mafia my strat is to pocket the townies right.

Whatever you want tho vivax.

Honestly.


No I took it personally that you manipulated me specifically into voting copcake.
And you didn‘t give a fuck about it afterwards.

So now you're trying to lynch him rather than your scumread who you now "feel bad for"?


Its fucking ridiculous tbh.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 18 2024 01:47 GMT
#10104
DMB/Jealous/palmar calling it now.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 18 2024 01:47 GMT
#10105
Jealous town reads me all game and then makes that vote?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2024 01:48 GMT
#10106
On March 18 2024 10:26 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 10:22 Vivax wrote:
Jealous can you see dmb/DP/Rels now in this very moment ?
We have the technology, we can rebuild you.

I address this here:

Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 09:35 Jealous wrote:
On March 18 2024 09:20 Vivax wrote:
On March 18 2024 09:15 Jealous wrote:
On March 18 2024 09:12 Vivax wrote:
But I understand that cracking jokes while I‘m trying to lynch you could come across as the wrong intention.

Yea, I think I would have taken it better if the situation wasn't what it is. I honestly feel better about all this after you made a genuine joke and this post for my sake. Thanks.


Its really good English but it looks so similar to DPs style in certain posts that I think he could have written that.

Either way, what‘s your opinion on Oats‘ scumslip read of DMB ?
Don‘t you think he was a bit too sure of himself ?

For a long time I thought the opposite tbh. He voted her immediately on D2. According to Slam, it was within 13 seconds of Slam revealing Oats' alignment. To me that feels like it can't be a bus, therefore DMB has to be town. Here comes the WIFOM:

However, Rels introduced reasonable doubt into my thinking process when he pointed out that Oats had cased her for 24 hours. Maybe you and others can help me with the meta read here, but I don't think that is typical for scum: to start bussing with posts/reads and then votes on D1/N1 -> N2.

That being said, in one of my two scum games, I was bussed by HF and scum ended up winning in 3 days because of that IIRC. So, I know it does happen. Furthermore, we know Oats bussed TTS this game.

So, the team would have to be Oats, DMB, and Rels.

The problem with that is that Rels filter until page 22 (where I am at now) has been townie to me, DMB is now defending me and has been playing like CopCake 2.0 and is being defended by you and DP. I feel like this is just chaotic. Furthermore, Rels has been critical of DMB several times and supported others' reads of DMB = scum. Does scum team double bus DMB this way? Do scum!DMB and scum!Rels both make a Palmar lynch a reality by either voting for him or not voting for town!Jealous? FML.

TLDR: I think it may be plausible but it depends on whether this is in character for the parties involved and a more common practice than it feels like it would be. It also has far-reaching and WIFOMy implications.


Like yea, it is plausible. It would have to be well-orchestrated, which is something that I am sure DP and Oats are capable of, and Rels and DMB just have to sheep (no slight against Rels and DMB btw). Rels filter made me believe they are pretty dang town, though, and so does DMB's recent "no DP voting" push. However, not voting for either side of the current lynch pool could just be a great TvT ploy.

Fuck it.

##Unvote
##Vote: DarthPunk

lol what a twist
well that cements him as scum IMO
can't believe that could actually have a chance to work. Well, probably only if DP and I were both AFK
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 18 2024 01:48 GMT
#10107
On March 18 2024 10:47 DarthPunk wrote:
DMB/Jealous/palmar calling it now.


DP/Rels/ ?
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22218 Posts
March 18 2024 01:48 GMT
#10108
On March 18 2024 10:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 10:44 Vivax wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:42 Vivax wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:30 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: DP


You are voting with your scum read that is lock mafia according to you you realise?


Yeah because I feel awful after hammering on him all day.

You on the other hand gave me reason to feel less awful if I lynched you


Wait so you are doing this because I yelled at you?

You realise as mafia my strat is to pocket the townies right.

Whatever you want tho vivax.

Honestly.


No I took it personally that you manipulated me specifically into voting copcake.
And you didn‘t give a fuck about it afterwards.

So now you're trying to lynch him rather than your scumread who you now "feel bad for"?


Believe it or not.
I‘ll have to switch back to him for my win condition if I have to but I‘d still prefer DP
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2024 01:48 GMT
#10109
On March 18 2024 10:47 DarthPunk wrote:
DMB/Jealous/palmar calling it now.

Welcome to my world
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 18 2024 01:49 GMT
#10110
On March 18 2024 10:46 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
And people why we haven't lynched scum this game.

This is exactly how scum like Palmar get away.

why do you townread dp so strong?
why would he shoot TTS?
Why would mafia not roleblock him if they know that he as a gun as he claimed it.
Why is this gun making him so fucking town and why is he not getting nk when he this much townconfirmed
how does that make sense?

I scumread Palmar and Jealous and now you tbh.

No room in my PoE for DP even if I had questions about the RB which I don't bc we already beat that horse to death on D3.

You are actively trying to prevent either a person who is openly taunting the town as scum or a person who has aggressively slipped several times. I have no idea what vivax is doing but he's still town to me unfortunately, you on the other hand are actively trying to prevent two of my scumreads from getting lynched.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22218 Posts
March 18 2024 01:49 GMT
#10111
On March 18 2024 10:48 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 10:26 Jealous wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:22 Vivax wrote:
Jealous can you see dmb/DP/Rels now in this very moment ?
We have the technology, we can rebuild you.

I address this here:

On March 18 2024 09:35 Jealous wrote:
On March 18 2024 09:20 Vivax wrote:
On March 18 2024 09:15 Jealous wrote:
On March 18 2024 09:12 Vivax wrote:
But I understand that cracking jokes while I‘m trying to lynch you could come across as the wrong intention.

Yea, I think I would have taken it better if the situation wasn't what it is. I honestly feel better about all this after you made a genuine joke and this post for my sake. Thanks.


Its really good English but it looks so similar to DPs style in certain posts that I think he could have written that.

Either way, what‘s your opinion on Oats‘ scumslip read of DMB ?
Don‘t you think he was a bit too sure of himself ?

For a long time I thought the opposite tbh. He voted her immediately on D2. According to Slam, it was within 13 seconds of Slam revealing Oats' alignment. To me that feels like it can't be a bus, therefore DMB has to be town. Here comes the WIFOM:

However, Rels introduced reasonable doubt into my thinking process when he pointed out that Oats had cased her for 24 hours. Maybe you and others can help me with the meta read here, but I don't think that is typical for scum: to start bussing with posts/reads and then votes on D1/N1 -> N2.

That being said, in one of my two scum games, I was bussed by HF and scum ended up winning in 3 days because of that IIRC. So, I know it does happen. Furthermore, we know Oats bussed TTS this game.

So, the team would have to be Oats, DMB, and Rels.

The problem with that is that Rels filter until page 22 (where I am at now) has been townie to me, DMB is now defending me and has been playing like CopCake 2.0 and is being defended by you and DP. I feel like this is just chaotic. Furthermore, Rels has been critical of DMB several times and supported others' reads of DMB = scum. Does scum team double bus DMB this way? Do scum!DMB and scum!Rels both make a Palmar lynch a reality by either voting for him or not voting for town!Jealous? FML.

TLDR: I think it may be plausible but it depends on whether this is in character for the parties involved and a more common practice than it feels like it would be. It also has far-reaching and WIFOMy implications.


Like yea, it is plausible. It would have to be well-orchestrated, which is something that I am sure DP and Oats are capable of, and Rels and DMB just have to sheep (no slight against Rels and DMB btw). Rels filter made me believe they are pretty dang town, though, and so does DMB's recent "no DP voting" push. However, not voting for either side of the current lynch pool could just be a great TvT ploy.

Fuck it.

##Unvote
##Vote: DarthPunk

lol what a twist
well that cements him as scum IMO
can't believe that could actually have a chance to work. Well, probably only if DP and I were both AFK


Adjust your vote then ?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10287 Posts
March 18 2024 01:49 GMT
#10112
On March 18 2024 10:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 10:44 Vivax wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:42 Vivax wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:30 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: DP


You are voting with your scum read that is lock mafia according to you you realise?


Yeah because I feel awful after hammering on him all day.

You on the other hand gave me reason to feel less awful if I lynched you


Wait so you are doing this because I yelled at you?

You realise as mafia my strat is to pocket the townies right.

Whatever you want tho vivax.

Honestly.


No I took it personally that you manipulated me specifically into voting copcake.
And you didn‘t give a fuck about it afterwards.

So now you're trying to lynch him rather than your scumread who you now "feel bad for"?

Vivax softening toward the end of this cycle is either masterful scum play or a soft signal of "I was pushing you to make you squirm but I don't think you're actually scum."

I'm betting on the latter.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 18 2024 01:49 GMT
#10113
On March 18 2024 10:48 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 10:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:44 Vivax wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:42 Vivax wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:30 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: DP


You are voting with your scum read that is lock mafia according to you you realise?


Yeah because I feel awful after hammering on him all day.

You on the other hand gave me reason to feel less awful if I lynched you


Wait so you are doing this because I yelled at you?

You realise as mafia my strat is to pocket the townies right.

Whatever you want tho vivax.

Honestly.


No I took it personally that you manipulated me specifically into voting copcake.
And you didn‘t give a fuck about it afterwards.

So now you're trying to lynch him rather than your scumread who you now "feel bad for"?


Believe it or not.
I‘ll have to switch back to him for my win condition if I have to but I‘d still prefer DP


You essentially managed to unlynch him over palmar your 'town read', so you are doing great so far.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
March 18 2024 01:50 GMT
#10114
Day Five Vote Count

Palmar (4): Rels, Meapak_Ziphh, Jealous, DarthPunk, iamperfection, DarthPunk
DarthPunk (3) : die_meatbaby, Jealous, Vivax
Jealous (2): Justanothertownie, DarthPunk, Vivax, Palmar, iamperfection, die_meatbaby, DarthPunk
Meapak_Ziphh (0): Jealous

With 4 votes, Palmar is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Monday, Mar 18 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in

Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 18 2024 01:50 GMT
#10115
On March 18 2024 10:48 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 10:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:44 Vivax wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:42 Vivax wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:30 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: DP


You are voting with your scum read that is lock mafia according to you you realise?


Yeah because I feel awful after hammering on him all day.

You on the other hand gave me reason to feel less awful if I lynched you


Wait so you are doing this because I yelled at you?

You realise as mafia my strat is to pocket the townies right.

Whatever you want tho vivax.

Honestly.


No I took it personally that you manipulated me specifically into voting copcake.
And you didn‘t give a fuck about it afterwards.

So now you're trying to lynch him rather than your scumread who you now "feel bad for"?


Believe it or not.
I‘ll have to switch back to him for my win condition if I have to but I‘d still prefer DP

So you admit that voting DP is just out of rage and that you KNOW Jealous is a vote that actually pushes town wincon but you just had to try and pull some shenanigans. No wonder we haven't lynched scum.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 18 2024 01:50 GMT
#10116
On March 18 2024 10:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 10:46 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
And people why we haven't lynched scum this game.

This is exactly how scum like Palmar get away.

why do you townread dp so strong?
why would he shoot TTS?
Why would mafia not roleblock him if they know that he as a gun as he claimed it.
Why is this gun making him so fucking town and why is he not getting nk when he this much townconfirmed
how does that make sense?

I scumread Palmar and Jealous and now you tbh.

No room in my PoE for DP even if I had questions about the RB which I don't bc we already beat that horse to death on D3.

You are actively trying to prevent either a person who is openly taunting the town as scum or a person who has aggressively slipped several times. I have no idea what vivax is doing but he's still town to me unfortunately, you on the other hand are actively trying to prevent two of my scumreads from getting lynched.


why the fuck do they not night kill. When somebody is this fucking townconfirmed they get nk.
Why he pushing us all the time to a town wagon for lynch?????
How can you not see that
DP/Rels
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2024 01:50 GMT
#10117
On March 18 2024 10:40 die_meatbaby wrote:
he pushed trfel because Trfel is a good Townplayer as I saw in the last game
he pushed VE wagon because we looked scummy but he always does
he pushed CC wagon because she plays differnt and can not handle the dp discussions for dayss

he go a gun he shoot the non activ mafia, because he is useless anyways, so why not getting townreads for shooting his teammate. Thats insanse but insane enough for a scum DP

"he pushed trfel because Trfel is a good Townplayer as I saw in the last game" => stealing CopCake theory I see
"insane enough for a scum DP" => is it? I know it's a play that I would literally never do for instance, it's literally playing against your wincon. We could be in LYLO today instead of tomorrow
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 18 2024 01:50 GMT
#10118
whatever everyone can blame me if im wrong about palmar i guess.
Game isnt good for me hapa is right.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 18 2024 01:51 GMT
#10119
On March 18 2024 10:50 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 10:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:46 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
And people why we haven't lynched scum this game.

This is exactly how scum like Palmar get away.

why do you townread dp so strong?
why would he shoot TTS?
Why would mafia not roleblock him if they know that he as a gun as he claimed it.
Why is this gun making him so fucking town and why is he not getting nk when he this much townconfirmed
how does that make sense?

I scumread Palmar and Jealous and now you tbh.

No room in my PoE for DP even if I had questions about the RB which I don't bc we already beat that horse to death on D3.

You are actively trying to prevent either a person who is openly taunting the town as scum or a person who has aggressively slipped several times. I have no idea what vivax is doing but he's still town to me unfortunately, you on the other hand are actively trying to prevent two of my scumreads from getting lynched.


why the fuck do they not night kill. When somebody is this fucking townconfirmed they get nk.
Why he pushing us all the time to a town wagon for lynch?????
How can you not see that
DP/Rels


Stop saying that, its not true, I have a better fucking record than the person I am voting for, so why do you not scum read palmar for never voting for scum this game.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22218 Posts
March 18 2024 01:52 GMT
#10120
On March 18 2024 10:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 10:48 Vivax wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:44 Vivax wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:42 Vivax wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 18 2024 10:30 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: DP


You are voting with your scum read that is lock mafia according to you you realise?


Yeah because I feel awful after hammering on him all day.

You on the other hand gave me reason to feel less awful if I lynched you


Wait so you are doing this because I yelled at you?

You realise as mafia my strat is to pocket the townies right.

Whatever you want tho vivax.

Honestly.


No I took it personally that you manipulated me specifically into voting copcake.
And you didn‘t give a fuck about it afterwards.

So now you're trying to lynch him rather than your scumread who you now "feel bad for"?


Believe it or not.
I‘ll have to switch back to him for my win condition if I have to but I‘d still prefer DP

So you admit that voting DP is just out of rage and that you KNOW Jealous is a vote that actually pushes town wincon but you just had to try and pull some shenanigans. No wonder we haven't lynched scum.


I‘m back onto Jealous.
All you do is try like Rels to use whatever I do to paint me in a bad light.
Tells everyone more about yourselves than about me.
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