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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10145 Posts
March 15 2024 17:21 GMT
#8921
On March 16 2024 02:14 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2024 02:11 Vivax wrote:
On March 16 2024 01:02 Jealous wrote:
Notable exceptions:
1. Palmar never jumped on my wagon.


???

he literally ended on your wagon. Maybe the plan in the discord wasn't to.

Iamp confirmed town for me for trying to find the most charitable interpretation of my fuck up.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 15 2024 17:22 GMT
#8922
On March 16 2024 02:20 Jealous wrote:
Should have been CopCake wagon like point 2, I'm hung over and I fucked up.

oh boy
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 15 2024 17:23 GMT
#8923
On March 16 2024 02:21 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2024 02:14 iamperfection wrote:
On March 16 2024 02:11 Vivax wrote:
On March 16 2024 01:02 Jealous wrote:
Notable exceptions:
1. Palmar never jumped on my wagon.


???

he literally ended on your wagon. Maybe the plan in the discord wasn't to.

Iamp confirmed town for me for trying to find the most charitable interpretation of my fuck up.

what im saying the same thing as vivax
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 15 2024 17:24 GMT
#8924
Why can‘t we have self voting mafia in this game smh
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10145 Posts
March 15 2024 17:30 GMT
#8925
On March 16 2024 02:23 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2024 02:21 Jealous wrote:
On March 16 2024 02:14 iamperfection wrote:
On March 16 2024 02:11 Vivax wrote:
On March 16 2024 01:02 Jealous wrote:
Notable exceptions:
1. Palmar never jumped on my wagon.


???

he literally ended on your wagon. Maybe the plan in the discord wasn't to.

Iamp confirmed town for me for trying to find the most charitable interpretation of my fuck up.

what im saying the same thing as vivax

Iamp confirmed town for correcting me here.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 15 2024 18:08 GMT
#8926
On March 15 2024 16:25 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 13:38 Vivax wrote:
On March 15 2024 13:36 iamperfection wrote:
On March 15 2024 13:35 Vivax wrote:
6 v 3 tomorrow
If there‘s traitor 5 v 4 lylo

fun

it dosnt work that way


I hope it doesn‘t.
Jealous is auto might as well just shitpost tomorrow

If you think scum!Jealous spent 3 cycles* voting for a 1 for 1 with CopCake you need to find an adult.

*caveat being I switched from Cop to Oats.

Can you explain what you mean with 1 for 1?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 15 2024 18:11 GMT
#8927
Because I don't think what you did is a 1 for 1. It was just a convenient tunnel if you are mafia.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10145 Posts
March 15 2024 18:13 GMT
#8928
On March 16 2024 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Because I don't think what you did is a 1 for 1. It was just a convenient tunnel if you are mafia.

In the world where I am scum and get lynched for pushing for a CopCake ML, then that's a 1 for 1, no?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 15 2024 18:18 GMT
#8929
On March 16 2024 03:13 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2024 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Because I don't think what you did is a 1 for 1. It was just a convenient tunnel if you are mafia.

In the world where I am scum and get lynched for pushing for a CopCake ML, then that's a 1 for 1, no?

Yeah, but why would you assume that you get lynched for pushing 1 mislynch alone?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10145 Posts
March 15 2024 18:33 GMT
#8930
On March 16 2024 03:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2024 03:13 Jealous wrote:
On March 16 2024 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Because I don't think what you did is a 1 for 1. It was just a convenient tunnel if you are mafia.

In the world where I am scum and get lynched for pushing for a CopCake ML, then that's a 1 for 1, no?

Yeah, but why would you assume that you get lynched for pushing 1 mislynch alone?

I guess because I thought it would look really bad on me, but in retrospect it just looks like I'm really stupid, which I seem to be proving over and over in the past 24 hours.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 15 2024 19:58 GMT
#8931
Palmar whats your read on Meapak_Ziphh thanks?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 15 2024 21:00 GMT
#8932
On March 15 2024 10:43 die_meatbaby wrote:
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On March 15 2024 10:40 Rels wrote:
On March 15 2024 10:38 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 15 2024 10:36 Rels wrote:
On March 15 2024 10:09 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 15 2024 10:04 iamperfection wrote:
maybe we just lynch cake and pick up play next cycle. She has to be dealt with in some way and we will know 100% what happened in ve cop with rels talking to me right near the hammer.

It will clear up the thread and just be good for a purity mindset.


Lets make her wish come true.

I still believe now after the mason that she is just a depressed Townie.

On March 15 2024 10:12 die_meatbaby wrote:
I really feel bad about voting her, while seeing her finally as Town. But she doesn´t fell happy here anymore and she is self voting as well. So what else could we do?

Let her be? And vote for your scumread? lol
Opportunistic mindset from DMB, following DP/iam

so I should vote you?! like just a wasted single vote on you? How does that help Town?

Interesting post. So in your worldview, both Jealous and Palmer are town? There is no good option for a vote?


Yes I Townread Palmar

Jealous is scummy for me but not enough for a vote. Still thinking about rather vote CC (who wished do die in the mason) and hope she is lonly treator and tired of non stop selfdefending instead of depressed town.

I really dislike this post. Before this dmb called cake town and basically advocated for a mercy kill. That alone I could have bought. But the overjustification in the quoted post just looks like mafia to me. If she is mafia with jealous this is absolute classic play. He is scummy but not scummy enough to vote him. Instead she votes cake. But also feels the need to include some kind of weird justification of a potential traitor so it does not look like she is blatantly lynching a townread.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10145 Posts
March 15 2024 22:02 GMT
#8933
On March 16 2024 06:00 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 10:43 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 15 2024 10:40 Rels wrote:
On March 15 2024 10:38 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 15 2024 10:36 Rels wrote:
On March 15 2024 10:09 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 15 2024 10:04 iamperfection wrote:
maybe we just lynch cake and pick up play next cycle. She has to be dealt with in some way and we will know 100% what happened in ve cop with rels talking to me right near the hammer.

It will clear up the thread and just be good for a purity mindset.


Lets make her wish come true.

I still believe now after the mason that she is just a depressed Townie.

On March 15 2024 10:12 die_meatbaby wrote:
I really feel bad about voting her, while seeing her finally as Town. But she doesn´t fell happy here anymore and she is self voting as well. So what else could we do?

Let her be? And vote for your scumread? lol
Opportunistic mindset from DMB, following DP/iam

so I should vote you?! like just a wasted single vote on you? How does that help Town?

Interesting post. So in your worldview, both Jealous and Palmer are town? There is no good option for a vote?


Yes I Townread Palmar

Jealous is scummy for me but not enough for a vote. Still thinking about rather vote CC (who wished do die in the mason) and hope she is lonly treator and tired of non stop selfdefending instead of depressed town.

I really dislike this post. Before this dmb called cake town and basically advocated for a mercy kill. That alone I could have bought. But the overjustification in the quoted post just looks like mafia to me. If she is mafia with jealous this is absolute classic play. He is scummy but not scummy enough to vote him. Instead she votes cake. But also feels the need to include some kind of weird justification of a potential traitor so it does not look like she is blatantly lynching a townread.

This post is less than an hour later and she says "you don't post this as scum" about me:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=443#8848

Then the very next post she buckles under the tiniest bit of pushback on her read:
On March 15 2024 11:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 11:38 Rels wrote:
On March 15 2024 11:36 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 15 2024 11:33 Rels wrote:
On March 15 2024 11:31 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 15 2024 11:28 Rels wrote:
On March 15 2024 11:25 die_meatbaby wrote:
I WOULD HAVE VOTE YOU OVER HER ANYTIMES. But Jeoules actually wanted to live and the way he posted before lynch was wayyy townier than before.

Dropping the "CopCake told me" stuff, but this though I don't see it. Can you explain further?


you were not a wagon.
Should I just let my vote on you and waste it, when I can make differnce with just one fucking vote?
I want and really hope that she will join a future game and if she wish do die then pls fucking let her die before she never joins again for feeling so unhappy in this game.
Sorry are you a player controlled by ai bots?? that would explain why you have emotion like a sheldon cooper and the jackpot Filter

??????????
Can you expand on this sentence?

But Jeoules actually wanted to live and the way he posted before lynch was wayyy townier than before.

Why did you think that? I had the opposite reaction, and I wasn't the only one


He did not ask do die.

Second
On March 15 2024 09:07 Jealous wrote:
On March 14 2024 09:22 Jealous wrote:
Did a quick dive on Palmar before I have to head out again. Based on D1 alone, I think he basically has to be town. I'll explain my thinking in the form of questions:

1. Would scum!Palmar immediately bus scum!Oats and scum!TTS practically out the gate?
2. Would scum!Palmar go along with town sentiment to elect Vivax mayor instead of what he claims is his preference, which is to lynch him for the claim?


To make an addendum to #2, if we believe what Palmar is saying about wanting to lynch Vivax for the claim, I think the only world in which scum!Palmar simply gives up and lets Vivax have the election without offering resistance is if it's scum!Palmar and scum!Vivax, and if it's scum!Vivax then it basically has to be scum!DP and they bussed TTS. So, I think this is practically impossible. Therefore, I think based on this foundation, scum!Palmar is incredibly unlikely to me at this juncture.

I'll refine further when I get back but this is what I have so far.

Quotes for reference, non-exhaustive list (he makes other posts re: Vivax running for mayor, Oats, etc):
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 05 2024 19:41 Palmar wrote:
So I'm going to talk about a few people now. Consider this just rambling thoughts about the thread that I'm absolutely not going to read in full. Probably gonna do this in a few parts so my reads might evolve from now until I've done the last people I want to talk about.

Oatsmaster

Both initially, and currently, the reason he's my tentative #1 lynch target is based on exactly one thing, this:

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
I’m running for mayor


Go find that post in his filter, then read the following maybe... 20 posts? I don't think there is a single one of them where he is actually pushing to get himself elected as mayor. Ironically he scolded someone else for doing that same thing.

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Mayor will sort itself out, probably be marv at the end of the day if he is town.

Hi again, not a big fan of you not pushing to be mayor, what gives?


I don't think pushing for it actually does anything.

You don’t seem to even want to be mayor


There really isn't much else to it. The case is simply "He said he wanted to be mayor but then none of his posting seems to point towards him actually wanting to be mayor".

It's far from lock scum case, it's mostly just a bad play regardless of alignment, but it's... maybe easier to explain as an attempt to do something bold as mafia. I'm gonna read more before I plant a vote or anything.

VisceraEyes

Part of me just wants him to be town because I'm happy VE is playing, so I admit it may be an overreaching town read.

But it's mostly a tone read. He seems to be happy to be playing the game. He said he wanted mayor and actually made a few follow up posts complaining no one was voting for him.

Also this isn't even alignment indicative but it's super good.

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 11:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
People saying unccd in a semi open setup is making my eyes roll so hard they're doing back flips. God I've never wished I was Mafia more in a game.


I have zero interest in lynching VE today.

DMB


So I haven't really read anything of hers but I just wanted to make this point.

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 06:18 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 05 2024 06:13 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 06:10 Palmar wrote:
Good morning, I see we're up to a casual 60+ pages.

Where did you wake up from???

It's 8am in Iceland right now, what are you talking about?


Iceland has 1 or 2 hours time difference than Austria. It is not possible. You come here and directly start to lie?? It should be 9:18 or 8 :18 PM


She confuses me so much. I make something that's an obvious joke, and she jumps on it? Why? My gut is "well that's stupid and townies do stupid shit". But my meta is that she's perfectly willing to do stupid shit as mafia from last game.

She does get townie points for completely forgetting I exist in her list post though.

But yeah, I don't actually have a read on her, it's just something I noticed.


On March 05 2024 10:07 Palmar wrote:
If I was less lazy I would basically force everyone into either voting vivax mayor or voting to lynch him. Fencesitting on a blue claim is just bad.

I haven’t read his filter but my instinct is to mayor Vivax.

On March 05 2024 22:47 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 22:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 05 2024 22:37 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 22:36 CopCake wrote:
On March 05 2024 22:31 Palmar wrote:
So thoughts on Vivax

1) His claim is dumb as shit and he shouldn't do it as town or mafia.
2) He did claim so we work with what we got
3) He didn't hide behind his claim which points to townie, he posted like 6 pages since that claim, so whatever the point was with his claim at least it wasn't "I'll just claim this and chill"
4) He is actually trying. Now I know I was wrong last game when I lynched him for not trying, but I still think there is merit in that kind of read with Vivax

In conclusion, I think he is more likely to be town than mafia, so I'm just gonna vote him for mayor.

There's also the completely stupid reason that absolutely no one seems to be calling him mafia, [/]and a bunch of people call him town but don't want to vote him as mayor. That's an indicator (admittedly a terrible one) of his sort of general standing within the town. It's like a minor town point.

That solves that problem for me.

I honestly don't feel like I know enough about the game to direct Vivax' lynch. Maybe I'll gather enough info today to help though.


I think, I said, he can do this as mafia.


Oh he can, what Vivax lacks in brains he has in balls.

I just don't think anyone is trying to argue that he is. Like make a case on him if you think this is wrong.

That's a false dichotomy. You don't have to think he is mafia in order to prefer someone else as mayor.


You don't have to, I'm not your mom. But it's still stupid.

Like it or not, by claiming Vivax made the game about himself.

The objectively correct play as town here is to lynch him. That is literally the best play. But we've decided not to do that and I kinda think that's the right call. Essentially we assume Vivax is bad town and not mafia. If that's the case he has a very, very strong power role and we think he's town, so we just make him mayor.

I really can't think of why we would not do one or the other if we're playing logically.

We can always force him to kill whoever we want dead, he's not without responsibility as mayor.

On March 05 2024 23:05 Palmar wrote:
Dumbest scumread ever is that TTS just casually assumed he'd be alive by day 4 or something.

Also even talking about a random voting stage like we're some plebeian third world mafia site is pretty scummy.

But he's done nothing so there's no read. Good policy lynch though.

Going further on into D1, Palmar had some good reads. Sheeped Sandro. Outlook positive on VE (did mention they "looked at little worse" eventually though). But, they haven't all been consistent. He pulled back on Oats being bad a bit. He also thought marv was looking scummy, too. So, more of a mixed bag than my early analysis showed.

Example:
On March 06 2024 06:56 Palmar wrote:
On March 06 2024 06:53 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 06:51 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 06 2024 06:48 Koshi wrote:
On March 06 2024 06:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Uuuh, exciting.

Is it?

I think it is. The post itself is disappointing though. Smells like desperation and OMGUS.

hahaha. Yeah. It's a big nothing burger.

It's a "when I die post"

You can ignore it for now.

I'm going to be so mad if marv is alive by day 4 after this shit.

Like he can lynch me, but he KNOWS he should not be doing that unless he has a really good reason to, which he doesn't.


His lynch list at EOD1 isn't looking too hot:
On March 06 2024 08:43 Palmar wrote:
This is just random and for post-game purposes.

We actually have like 4 objectively correct lynches (that is correct from a "how to play mafia" perspective).

1) Vivax - All day 1 claimers should be policy lynched without question
2) TTS - Complete inactivity
3) Hapa - replacement and demotivation is something that happens much more often as mafia
4) Trfel - He literally is voting without having any clue why

But for various reasons I'm not really pushing any of those lynches. Guess I'm bad.


Final list post isn't great, too. Oats is now a TR. So maybe it was fake pressure all along? Still SRing TTS though, but that's not exactly gold-star-worthy play at this point IMO.

But does he bus this hard on D2?
On March 06 2024 19:03 Palmar wrote:
On March 06 2024 14:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Vig shot on TTS btw.

This is a good call.



Wonder what happened to this:
On March 06 2024 19:16 Palmar wrote:
I hate pretty much all of your takes CopCake


This didn't age well, feels like a retaliatory SR:
On March 07 2024 00:31 Palmar wrote:
So like preemptively, I'm trying to come to a conclusion why rayn wouldn't open up my filter and ctrl+f Vivax while shouting in caps at me and I just really can't think of one.

Secondly I already explained to him as confirmed town (last game) how I differ in my approach to people's alignment. I don't tie them together like that.

raynpelikoneet



Nested quote from rayn here about how Palmar's progression on VE was scummy is interesting in retrospect.

Palmar feels like he is just all over the place now, this is what sowing chaos looks like to me, especially given what was said before, especially about sandroba:
On March 07 2024 01:02 Palmar wrote:
I think it's possible that marv, rayn and sandroba are mafia (varying degrees of possibility) and I don't care who masoned who.


Still, can't deny that he is pushing hard on the Oats wagon. I think scum!Palmar would be content to be more half-hearted about it and sheep a VE vote relatively quietly when it was gaining momentum. Notable that Koshi was one of the driving forces for the VE lynch, but I'm starting to understand that this is just Koshi things (not that I like it though).

--[b]Intermission--

So far, everything from the mid point to the 3/4 mark of Palmar's filter is just a big fat nothingburger. Granted there was some drunkposting in the middle and I really sympathize with that, but it was almost all entirely lazy one-liners. Definitely "coasting" until some semblance of pressure mounted on him:
On March 12 2024 22:09 Palmar wrote:
On March 12 2024 21:54 justanothertownie wrote:
But he can defend himself if he is town. He is a big, very important boy.

Yeah no worries.

It's actually kinda fun.

The one thing I need, and I need other people to back me up on this. I am going to ask people why they think I am mafia, and I'm going to do it aggressively. Here's a very important point. Even if I was mafia, my teammates would absolutely want to get in on the "bus". This means that they would have to come up with good reasons to attack me. So even if townies agree that I must be mafia, be vary of who is on the train with you. And of course keep an open mind.

The worst thing that can happen if I get under heavy fire is that town just shuts up and does it quietly.

Essentially, if people want to hold hands and try to lynch me, I'm going to make them work for it, and in the process there is going to be a lot of information generated in the thread.

The last 2 days have been pretty bad in terms of information. Oats played well but was mafia so it can all be discarded, and VE just didn't even try.

That won't be the case if I'm the target.

Instead what ended up happening is he just posted reasons why others were scum, so it felt like just fulfilled his town!Palmar obligations and went back to relative chill hard mode. I don't think that should be too difficult to do as scum, especially since just about everyone has some unfortunate/wrong/bad-looking stuff in their filters to latch onto, read in the most negative way, or misrep. So, I don't think that his activity today gives him all too many townie points because in the end he is just hopping from one wagon to the next, either as scum or as town for scum.


--"Conclusion"--
I think that Palmar is pretty hard to put a finger on. Did he type a lot of things? Yes. Were some of them good-sounding? Assuredly so. Does he have strong convictions, drive, and does he ever put himself into any significant danger? No.

I haven't had the chance to filter JAT recently so I'll probably do that next while out, but I won't make a post like this. If I had to go off of my overall gut feeling throughout the game, I'd say that they were even more wishy-washy than Palmar, but I don't want to discredit JAT before I actually do the work, so take that with a heavy grain of salt.

When done with JAT's filter, I will just insert them into my current list of scumminess (left is most town, right is most scum):

Iamp > Palmar > Koshi > Cake


DP and Vivax are not present because I am still operating in conftown! world for both of them, similar for DMB but obviously much less so to keep it clean and easy.

PS: It seems I fucked up the bold tags somewhere but fuck it, it's legible.


You don´t post this as mafia. Like come on that is townie under pressure

Really disagree. Posting a big post under pressure near the deadline is not townie specific


Okey yes then maybe I should have taken this post more seriously and sorry that I didn´t get how scummy that actually was. But I only had one thing on my mind and that is more personally important than J at the moment.
This game takes a lot of time, nerves and energy. If you don't enjoy it anymore. No more energy and always on the verge of being lynched but not lynched. If you always have to defend yourself for 30 pages and therefore can't really try to find scum, then it's really depressing. I want Cake to come back in future games and not give up playing here. I just wanted the best for her, even if it wasn't the best for Town.
I rather lose as Town as losing a player for ever
Hope you're doing better in obs <3


That's scummy af.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 15 2024 22:42 GMT
#8934
Jealous if your town couldn't dmb just lurk?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 15 2024 22:53 GMT
#8935
On March 16 2024 07:42 iamperfection wrote:
Jealous if your town couldn't dmb just lurk?

Good point. Counter argument: We are probably never touching cake again if she is not lynched here.
Not happening without her vote.
DMB can combine mafia agenda with genuinely trying to grant ccs wish.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10145 Posts
March 15 2024 23:28 GMT
#8936
On March 16 2024 07:42 iamperfection wrote:
Jealous if your town couldn't dmb just lurk?

They lynch town either way, CopCake's flip makes me look bad, she got the opportunity to call me scummy to boot, and she wasn't even the one that hammered CopCake. I think it works out pretty well in scum!DMB's favor.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 15 2024 23:53 GMT
#8937
On March 16 2024 08:28 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2024 07:42 iamperfection wrote:
Jealous if your town couldn't dmb just lurk?

They lynch town either way, CopCake's flip makes me look bad, she got the opportunity to call me scummy to boot, and she wasn't even the one that hammered CopCake. I think it works out pretty well in scum!DMB's favor.



Why should this be good for a scum DMB?
I remember sombody was writing that if CC is Town then dmb has to be mafia or either way. I am not sure who wrote that but i think it was palmar. So why should I scumDMB risk such a thing?

The only thing I am seeing here is that people goeing mad again on people with a bad Towngame. Is this the plan because until now it didn´t help us. Lynch Ve because of Bad Town game (and he is known for that) CC playing strange means also bad Towngame and me same as well. Just voting bad Town after bad Town is not what will help us in any fucking way.

Did you filter C? Did you read her last scumreads? What about DP. How sure are we that he is really Town. I mean gunsmith can give the gun to mafia as well and shooting the inactiv mafia to get a hell of a Townread would be insane mafia move but not impossibole for DP. When DP is mafia he plays insane so why not?

Rels is the Endbos of TMI and it seems like nobody fucking cares about that and that pisses me off as hell

Another scumread of CC was Koshi. Did anybody from you maybe reread Koshi? What do we think about that? Is her read good or bad?

Everything has an end only the sausage has two
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 16 2024 00:05 GMT
#8938
On March 16 2024 08:53 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2024 08:28 Jealous wrote:
On March 16 2024 07:42 iamperfection wrote:
Jealous if your town couldn't dmb just lurk?

They lynch town either way, CopCake's flip makes me look bad, she got the opportunity to call me scummy to boot, and she wasn't even the one that hammered CopCake. I think it works out pretty well in scum!DMB's favor.



Why should this be good for a scum DMB?
I remember sombody was writing that if CC is Town then dmb has to be mafia or either way. I am not sure who wrote that but i think it was palmar. So why should I scumDMB risk such a thing?

The only thing I am seeing here is that people goeing mad again on people with a bad Towngame. Is this the plan because until now it didn´t help us. Lynch Ve because of Bad Town game (and he is known for that) CC playing strange means also bad Towngame and me same as well. Just voting bad Town after bad Town is not what will help us in any fucking way.

Did you filter C? Did you read her last scumreads? What about DP. How sure are we that he is really Town. I mean gunsmith can give the gun to mafia as well and shooting the inactiv mafia to get a hell of a Townread would be insane mafia move but not impossibole for DP. When DP is mafia he plays insane so why not?

Rels is the Endbos of TMI and it seems like nobody fucking cares about that and that pisses me off as hell

Another scumread of CC was Koshi. Did anybody from you maybe reread Koshi? What do we think about that? Is her read good or bad?


feel like your more guilt tripping then anything with this post.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 16 2024 00:10 GMT
#8939
JAT is keeping his options open with Jealous with a weak push then prepares a split push to dmb.
Iamperfection follows.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 16 2024 00:12 GMT
#8940
Yo. Im around. Not many posts to catch up on this phase.
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