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On March 05 2024 05:06 Rels wrote: So the fact that he hasn't posted since his first spray of post? It makes him a lurker but I don't understand why it makes him scum Why are you fighting this so much? Do you have a better vote? | ||
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On March 05 2024 05:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: I can understand the sentiment. I can't understand that she somehow thinks "Vivax would claim because his townread is getting mayored (but it's not really still his town meta)". I mean, can you read the whole string of posts she made and tell me if i am just reading something wrong because that shit doesn't make any sense at all. I might be over-charitable, but I think prob she has a gut feeling vivax would always be town in that situation and did post hoc rationalization. I also think other posts she make she is commenting on relevant stuff which is different from her self centric posts she made last game | ||
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On March 05 2024 05:11 Rels wrote: 1. You call it fighting, I don't, it's called discussing. I don't have a townread on VE. I want to understand what he did that is considered scummy because I don't see it 2. And yeah, mine. I think ToTheStars has the highest chance of flipping scum if the deadline was right now The thing is TTS has some stuff one could point out comes from a townie perspective in his posts. VE has none of that. So it's pretty obvious why one would vote VE, I don't see the reason for this scrutiny instead of letting VE come and say something about it. I would understand if you had seen something on VE's posts that you read townie, but that obviously isn't the case and there isn't anything. | ||
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On March 05 2024 05:53 Koshi wrote: So I am on page 36 and I am going to call marv mafia. and I am calling sandroba & rayn dummies for pushing the marv is town shit into this thread with literally nothing to back it up. Fuck your shit. town!marv is very capable to play this game and get mayor. He would be a good mayor and this game could be easy and fun. The shit you 3 are doing is horrible and against town wincon. I also play against town wincon on purpose in previous games and marv was the one complaining and saying I shouldn't do it. Well he is doing just that. Now what mafia!marv would do this is an entire other story. And a very believable one. I also dislike sandroba. I probably like rayn but not enough to say he is for sure not mafia. But ok. I can work with him most likely. Not sure why you are bunching me up with rayn calling marv town. I'm keeping an open mind. He has been townie in the mason chat but the lack of thread presence is worrying. Your commentary is less sharp than usual. Not sure I follow the outburst here, what exactly have we been doing that is anti-town? I also don't like it you are framing as we are acting a group. | ||
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On March 05 2024 06:09 DarthPunk wrote: That’s how it looked to me as well fwiw Sandro shouldn’t you be asking me some questions or something if I am a question mark for you? I don't think that will help, you post more than enough without me asking you anything. I have a leaning on you already and I'm not interested in lynching you today, so I will aim my efforts elsewhere. | ||
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On March 05 2024 06:10 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm surprised marv isn't laughing at sand in the mason chat about his vote on me. God I wish I could summon gifs on a whim. He did say to wait a bit on you as he is good at reading you. | ||
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On March 05 2024 06:17 VisceraEyes wrote: That also makes your vote misplaced. You know better. I don't. You got plenty of time though | ||
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On March 05 2024 06:36 Koshi wrote: i am 100% with you. rayn marv tfrel can die. We shouldn't do tfrel first. rayn or marv. Let's go big. That can't be your honest opinion | ||
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On March 05 2024 06:43 Koshi wrote: I can. I thought for a second that marv blueclaimed to you. So that would/could cement him town. But then you would both go after Vivax harder because it just makes sense he is less likely town then. Maybe not, maybe yes. Still you both believed Vivax so unconditionally I disregard the blue claim. This marv I have been reading last 2-3 games is not capable to convince the thread he is town. Yet he was able to convince you he is town? What a joke. You are either mafia with him, or really fucking bad rayn. Really fucking bad. You are really bad for letting this happen, but really fucking bad for letting this happen and protect marv like this. So yeah. I can think that. Also. I really hope he is mafia and you are town. I really hope that. So much. Hmm this kinda makes some sense now as this is where my head went for a bit. Maybe koshi isn't auto scum for posting that lynch list, but still very eager and not very level headed, which I have come to expect from town koshi | ||
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On March 05 2024 08:23 Koshi wrote: Also. In my opinion mafia knows TownMayor!Vivax is a bad thing for them. They also believe the claim and they want to just shoot him N1. I believe they are ok with him being ridiculed. I believe they prefer anybody else being mayor. They are content with his situation as it is. Not on track to be mayor and not taking seriously. For some reason I can see Rels being mafia and being the exception. I don't know why. Maybe because he is pushing TTS wrongly and wants to also be right about something as mafia. I can't explain it. This might very well be the first good scum read you had koshi | ||
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On March 05 2024 10:00 Palmar wrote: I haven’t even found Vivax claim yet but anyone who believes he is town should probably just vote him mayor. I don’t really see much logic in anything else. Not saying there is necessarily something wrong with the logic, but this is uncharacteristically weak shit from palmar | ||
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There are obviously town reasons to mayor vivax, but there is some reluctance I expect from townies. I think the over-eagerness to jump on the vivax train right away points to mafia. | ||
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On March 05 2024 10:58 DarthPunk wrote: Hard disagree. I find people who just accept it for what it is and make the correct play in regards to him is townie. The scummy thing is talking around in circles about how shit vivax’s claim was, that he might not be town or if he is he is not confirmed It’s a huge waste of time and shits up the thread and is also incredibly easy content to fake. I found palmars approach to the situation very townie for example Are you still lock town on trfel btw? Didn't see much of people saying he might not be town. Shitting up the thread discussing the claim being bad I agree, CopCake is the main person I saw driving the discussion back to that. I think saying he is prob town and prob not the best mayor, at least initially is the reaction I would expect from townies. Remember, even though scum might not want something, it's hard to actually push something when you think it would be obvious anti-town. Scum wants to hide and push things in a subtle way. Not locked town on trfel since he hasn't been very active, but wouldn't lynch him d1 in a million years. What he has posted so far after the initial setup-focused posts looked super townie to me. | ||
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On March 05 2024 21:30 Koshi wrote: I really really really don't see that. Last game I was so sure he was town. What is he doing here? Everytime he gets pressured he moves away from it. Slam asks him about Oats. He gives a good answer but it lacks conviction. It looks way more as a mafia seeing Town!Oats be inquisitive than a townie figuring out Town!Oats is inquisitive. Slam then pressures on and while replying to somebody else he @slam and disengages with him. This can't be the same Tfrel as last game? You went 4 days with him. Under pressure by marv/DP/rayn iirc. This looks the same to you? I should follow your lead on him but it seems impossible. I disagree. Trfel last game was pretty similar to this, he did some burst of activity then vanished for a while. I was suspicious of him all the way through d1/n1 because of the structuring of his posts and they style of his activity. He was not a high volume poster and conviction was not his forte. He basically had the game figured out d3 but wasn't pushing any of it. It took me some deep diving to actually identify he was correct on everything. I think it's stupid to look into him as the quality of what he has posted has been very good so far. If he is mafia it will be hard for him to keep up as the game progresses and he has to justify hard positions and keep up appearances. My current suspect list is palmar/jat/rels, rels being the one I feel less strongly about. Palmar looks more and more tame and awful every time he posts. JAT: catches up to the thread but basically only ever comments on Koshi related stuff. A lot of his commentary is meaningless and his questions are not sharp. He apparently wants Koshi for mayor, but this is not a real position since koshi himself wants vivax and it doesn't seem like jat really wants it or thinks it's a realistic thing that will happen. It just fills up space and buddies up to koshi. On March 05 2024 20:59 justanothertownie wrote: Apparently people are dead set on making Vivax mayor. They cannot all be mafia even though I would bet a lot of money that mafia is on board. The logic apparently being Vivax wouldn't make such a bad play as mafia. The disconnect here is that he did the bad play regardless of his alignment but for some reason only town can be bad in people's minds. I disagree with that but I really don't know what to do about it except for complaining and offering a better alternative which is koshi right now. What am I supposed to do in your opinion, rayn? The above post is complacent and disinterested. The reasoning for Vivax possibly being mafia is very shallow analysis and very lazily written, not trying to convince anyone. JAT is solely focused on this mayor thing, he is not very involved and he is making no effort to actually find anyone that is suspicious. He is sticking to easy topics and being lazy in his comments. Even the mayor thing he doesn't care enough about to make any real contributions. He cares about nothing, yet he is still posting here pretending to engage. JAT is mafia. | ||
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On March 05 2024 23:27 Vivax wrote: If I do JAT it's because he's doing the same thing I scumread Trfel at the time, which is to blanket townread Oats who is a lot more capable at this game than what he's doing now. At least Trfel explained it. In a very floofy and conf biasy way, but he explained it. I don't know why cop and sandro want Trfel shielded so hard though. He has also not posted for a long time. Because Trfel is possibly the best analyst if town. And the posts he does have don't make me think he is mafia, actually the opposite. So pretty much a very bad idea to lynch him just because he isn't as active as we would like when we have so many other options. We can reassess d2. | ||
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On March 05 2024 23:51 Koshi wrote: Ok let's shoot hapa with Vivax shot. I like it | ||
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On March 05 2024 23:53 Hapahauli wrote: Would appreciate being shot, I just don't think I have it in me to play. Can you ask for a replacement instead of harming your team? | ||
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On March 06 2024 00:13 Vivax wrote: You won't the kill is pointed at Hapa. I purely would want to leave Palmar alive for the fun value, but we need a viable counterwagon anyway, and there's nothing that says we shouldn't kill TTS, he has even posted less than Hapa. We can maybe leave hapa to be modkilled and kill another lurker who is trying to avoid being modkilled? TTS fits the bill, I guess we can take another look when it's close to deadline. | ||
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