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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 10 2024 03:35 GMT
#5921
On March 10 2024 12:32 Rels wrote:
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On March 10 2024 12:24 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:23 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:20 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:19 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:14 Jealous wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:13 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:12 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:12 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Town points for DP btw why


What you mean?

the shoot makes you town for me

wow how could have come to such a conclusion

Nah man, the greatest bus of all time is unfolding right in front of our eyes.

Sorry i think I am getting blind. Can you help me to see it?

i dont know if your trolling but DP shot mafia.... i think you can put 2 and 2 together.

yeah he is town. I was wrong I got that. But where is the bus?

he was making a joke. Because its obviously not a bus and would be the most legendary play of all time to shoot your scum partner for cred.

Unecessary too, since I assume not using the shot and using it to kill a townie during the last night would gain scum a mislynch. So it would even be playing actively against their wincon
With shot => 10 town vs 3 scum now => 3 ML before LYLO
Without shot => 9 town (with the gun being used later) vs 4 scum => 2 ML before LYLO

BTW 3 more mislynches allowed, nice. And that's assuming we don't lynch the RB at some point before all BGs die, which would open up the possibility for night saves

With Vivax having to be RB though, I guess DP couldn't keep the shot actually. But could have killed the scummiest townie
I guess it would have been me lol
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 10 2024 03:36 GMT
#5922
We mislynched 2 townies D1 and still have 3 free mislynches. Pretty hard game to lose ...
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 10 2024 03:36 GMT
#5923
On March 10 2024 12:32 Rels wrote:
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On March 10 2024 12:24 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:23 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:20 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:19 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:14 Jealous wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:13 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:12 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:12 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Town points for DP btw why


What you mean?

the shoot makes you town for me

wow how could have come to such a conclusion

Nah man, the greatest bus of all time is unfolding right in front of our eyes.

Sorry i think I am getting blind. Can you help me to see it?

i dont know if your trolling but DP shot mafia.... i think you can put 2 and 2 together.

yeah he is town. I was wrong I got that. But where is the bus?

he was making a joke. Because its obviously not a bus and would be the most legendary play of all time to shoot your scum partner for cred.

Unecessary too, since I assume not using the shot and using it to kill a townie during the last night would gain scum a mislynch. So it would even be playing actively against their wincon
With shot => 10 town vs 3 scum now => 3 ML before LYLO
Without shot => 9 town (with the gun being used later) vs 4 scum => 2 ML before LYLO

BTW 3 more mislynches allowed, nice. And that's assuming we don't lynch the RB at some point before all BGs die, which would open up the possibility for night saves


cake beeing not just mafia but mafia roleblocker what would be such an importend role in this game would make more sense for her hiding. She just appears enough so it looks like her towngame but she really doesn´t play the same.
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 10 2024 03:38 GMT
#5924
On March 10 2024 12:36 die_meatbaby wrote:
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On March 10 2024 12:32 Rels wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:24 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:23 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:20 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:19 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:14 Jealous wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:13 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:12 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:12 DarthPunk wrote:
[quote]

What you mean?

the shoot makes you town for me

wow how could have come to such a conclusion

Nah man, the greatest bus of all time is unfolding right in front of our eyes.

Sorry i think I am getting blind. Can you help me to see it?

i dont know if your trolling but DP shot mafia.... i think you can put 2 and 2 together.

yeah he is town. I was wrong I got that. But where is the bus?

he was making a joke. Because its obviously not a bus and would be the most legendary play of all time to shoot your scum partner for cred.

Unecessary too, since I assume not using the shot and using it to kill a townie during the last night would gain scum a mislynch. So it would even be playing actively against their wincon
With shot => 10 town vs 3 scum now => 3 ML before LYLO
Without shot => 9 town (with the gun being used later) vs 4 scum => 2 ML before LYLO

BTW 3 more mislynches allowed, nice. And that's assuming we don't lynch the RB at some point before all BGs die, which would open up the possibility for night saves


cake beeing not just mafia but mafia roleblocker what would be such an importend role in this game would make more sense for her hiding. She just appears enough so it looks like her towngame but she really doesn´t play the same.

so why not vote cake
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10313 Posts
March 10 2024 03:39 GMT
#5925
Just a quick compilation of reasons to vote CopCake that happened more than 24 hours ago (when she was last active).

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On March 09 2024 11:52 CopCake wrote:
Let it be known I think the mafia team is Palmar, DP, jelaous, etc

Ill be voting Ve to save oats


On March 09 2024 11:32 CopCake wrote:
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On March 09 2024 06:35 Palmar wrote:
So, I'm going to finally make the case you've all been waiting for.

raynpelikoneet is scum

The entire case hinges on two points. There is some other weirdness in his postings, but those are by far the most important ones

Point 1 - rayn demands, twice and in all caps, that I make a case on Vivax

The reason this is important is because it clearly implies rayn never actually read my filter

On March 06 2024 22:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WHERE IS YOUR FUCKING CASE ON VIVAX, PALMAR?


On March 06 2024 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote:
I'm finalizing here.

I like a bunch of mafia in:

rayn
jat
rels
mz
tts

then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy

vivax
trfel
hapa



then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve

iamp
marv
jealous
copcake
slam
ve

and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town

sandro
oats
dp
dmb
jls
koshi

None of the lists are in any particular order

I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever.

where is your case on vivax?


But the problem is, I had explained my stance on Vivax multiple times in the thread. Like I'm actually kinda annoyed with myself for how often I repeated that same point.

Here's a link to a post where I summarized me repeatedly expressing the same stance on Vivax.

https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=28152997

In conclusion. rayn considers me his #1 lynch target but hasn't actually read my filter and doesn't know my stances.

Point 2 - rayn refuses to acknowledge that I don't think and play like him

This one is a little more nuanced to explain, especially to people who weren't involved in the last game we played, but for context here's the gist of it.

On day 3, I am town and kinda think rayn may be town. rayn is however mafia and is tunneling me as an established scumread.

The most significant post here is this:

On December 16 2023 22:59 Palmar wrote:
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On December 16 2023 22:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar can you make a post about why it's reasonable to assume i am mafia with (1) sandroba or (2) holyflare?

I don’t make associative reads


In the same way as he does this game for the mason thing, rayn demands a townread because I have other people that aren't him as possible mafia, and then claims it's impossible that they could be scum together.

To me, this is a clear logical fallacy, because it assumes that I'm always right on my scumreads other than rayn. I explain this even further here in the last game.

On December 17 2023 01:24 Palmar wrote:
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On December 16 2023 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 16 2023 23:33 Palmar wrote:
Rayn, I’m not going to read your entire filter because I don’t hate myself. But I did open it and read from the bottom up. I can’t remember if this is something you normally do but you’re spending almost no effort on forming town reads. The best I could find was like “maybe marv is just town” and something like that.

Like have you at any point in this game tried to argue that someone is town?

Do youthink that's something that makes me mafia?
I mean like its probably the easiest thing to do as mafia, call townies town for correct reasons. I also heavily abuse that fact as mafia.

I dont care if you do associative reads or not.
I find it suspicious that the people who i sm literally the least likely to be mafia with ate the ones you geoup with me being mafia with snd just sit on that.

Also i disagree that i had no influence on the game. Its true i have not been as active as usual. But i was a key factor to almost change the lynch from Vivax to sandroba D1, and i also believe i was one of the key votes to lynch Chezinu.


In order cause phoneposting.

Not necessarily but it’s different from what I do. I said I can’t remember if it’s normal for you.

Again, I don’t think this way. Maybe I’m wrong on something. Maybe mafia is playing lone wolf. I just don’t care at all who is likely to be mafia with who. It has no impact on how I think about any game.

You HAVE been active. You have one of the longest filters in the game. You just haven’t been influential.


So given that we literally had this discussion last game, rayn's claim THIS game that I must be mafia because I refuse to think in associations like he does means he has to be scum himself.

Not because he doesn't know my playstyle, that's actually completely acceptable

he's mafia because he's reminded that I just explained my playstyle to him last game, I play like I always do again, and remind him that's how I think, but he still refuses to listen

This means he doesn't WANT to listen, and his objective isn't actually finding out my alignment, just wants to kill me.

In conclusion: raynpelikoneet





I mean the only other option is that he's a moron.





Rayn is dead and JOAT


On March 09 2024 02:31 CopCake wrote:
On March 09 2024 02:29 marvellosity wrote:
On March 09 2024 02:27 CopCake wrote:
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On March 09 2024 02:21 marvellosity wrote:
On March 09 2024 02:15 CopCake wrote:
Btw I refuse to take my vote on Jelaous.

He was an ass to me but “Vivax slapping my ass” is a good thought process.

I have no idea what you’re on about tbh.


Jelaous asked questions to dmb to understand her

Dmb said vivax was slapping her etc etc

Jelaous said ok I likr that thought process

So? Like I’m positive there has been some misunderstanding here, but even if there wasn’t, why is it a mafia thing to say or do that? You think mafia want to look like idiots?


Jelaous was like absolutely too mean to me. To the point I almost quit the game for that.

He said I spoke bullshit,

How is “Vivax is slapping me” a good answer?

I think they are partners.


[B]On March 09 2024 01:29 CopCake wrote:
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On March 07 2024 11:33 Jealous wrote:
On March 07 2024 11:24 die_meatbaby wrote:
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On March 07 2024 11:01 Jealous wrote:
On March 07 2024 10:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 07 2024 10:42 Jealous wrote:
On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
But trying to become mayor as mafia is very risky and stupid. Even I understand that.

So does that mean that all of the following have to be town?
Vivax (13), raynpelikoneet (3), Oatsmaster (1), Koshi (1)

On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Town dp would feel attacked if you call him mafia and would names reasons why he is not.
Mafia dp plays it of cool, that you don't see the fear of being discovered.

Maybe this is a DP thing, or maybe I'm different from most, or maybe I'm just stupid... But how much evidence can DP have to name reasons for why he is not mafia when we're what, 16 hours into D1? Maybe the volume they put out... but still, let's have a thought experiment:

What arguments would you have for your own innocence at this point in the game?

On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Regardless of what I think about cake, but it seems to me that he picks weaker players to annoy until they make a mistake because of beeing annoyd and then he can push the wagon that comes up.

I made an error out the gate (not catching that Alakaslam cop-claimed) and I didn't get my head bit off for it by anyone. It was corrected and we kept it moving. So, I think this point is overblown. If you're not scum, "mistakes" don't magically make you scum, IMO. The mistake itself has to be AI.

On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
He waits hours but no body jumps on a cake wagon or he already sees that that wagon will not be successful. So he need to get someelse, but thats good for his record, because Town DP change often his vote just usually with good reasons.

If it wasn't his meta already then I could see this being potentially being true/AI, but because you say that it is his meta... I don't get your point here?

On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Thats the only Post I like. He should play a little bit and then we lynch Ve because thats a vote for active Town

Please clarify your logic here, too.


That does not mean that this people are Town for me.
It has something to do with my experience of DP's personality. Sorry if I didn´t make that clear.

Okay, I can believe that you believe this 👍

On March 07 2024 10:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
What arguments would you have for your own innocence at this point in the game?

Regardless of my aligment I would not start a fight with dp without having do!!!
As mafia I would not do that. That would take the fun away as I had in the last game trying to lynch Palmar
As Town I just to it because I don´t have something more importend in my head.

This I am having a much harder time following.

If I understand correctly you say that you wouldn't argue with DP regardless of your alignment, then you say you would not do it as mafia, and then you say you would do it as town?

Perhaps this will be easier, allow me to rephrase:

In this specific game, what can you point to as being reasons for why you are town by the 16 hour mark?

I'm just struggling to understand what your ideal response from DP would be here. If someone put me on the spot like that, frankly I'd just be like:
[image loading]

On March 07 2024 10:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
And the Ve post is good
He doesn´t really want to play anymore because we always lynch him early.
Compassion would be the best description

The way you responded to it is "let them play, then lynch them because they are an active townie," which doesn't make much sense to me as "compassion"? As Jacob said above, that almost sounds like a scumslip, but I am sure I must be misunderstanding something or you misspoke.



Starting a discussion with Dp with my English, his ambition and his never-ending questions get on my nerves. I would never voluntarily start a discussion with him if I didn't have to and the only reason I do it is because he is my main scum read.
Being scum was really fun for me and that would take the fun out of it ergo I can not be scum

Also the our major is slapping my ass while i try to translate my thougts correctly. Pls for god sake I have to concentrate Vivax


On March 07 2024 11:29 die_meatbaby wrote:
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On March 07 2024 11:10 Jealous wrote:
On March 07 2024 11:03 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Hmmmmm in your opinion Jealous.

Sure mistakes happen but do you think DMB's "mistake" and reaction to it (not noticing we were even pointing out the mistake for ages) is more or less suspicoius than Koshi's "Mistake" and reaction to it. (ignoring it entirely and being like I'm town fuck you)


I think that both are NAI. I wouldn't even call Koshi's "mistake" that. As someone else told you, I consider "if" and "when" to almost colloquially interchangeable in that context.

DMB's mistake reads as far more damning to me but there are mitigating factors and I think that even some as seemingly erratic as them wouldn't have brought it up just to slip up like that, IMO.

I'm more concerned about the fact that most of what they wrote that wasn't a mistake felt pretty weak to me. This is their best case on their strongest scum read, and now they are too lazy to stick around, because "I don't wanna be town I wanna be mafia"? That's hella weak IMO.

I can see a genuine town doing that, I guess, kinda like how we have people who didn't vote and aren't posting for various reasons. However, I also see it as sufficient reason to keep them on my lynch list, because mafia isn't precluded from claiming laziness after flailing under some light pressure.


I put myself under pressure to start that shit with dp. I know i couldn´t handle that as well as I should so why should I do that as mafia? I knew he gonna give me a lot of pressure more then all the other players would, so again why should I start that and not just take someone easyer do try do lynch and go more with the crowd thoughts. Why even start with the master? I would not be that stupid as mafia


Okay, now I understand what you were saying before. Thanks for clarifying. I actually kinda like this thought process because at least I get it.


Good to know Jelaous is a very serious person that finds the logic of Vivax slapping DMB logical to determine her alignment .


[B]On March 09 2024 01:31 CopCake wrote:
DMB: “ Also the our major is slapping my ass while i try to translate my thougts correctly. Pls for god sake I have to concentrate Vivax“

Jelaous: “ Okay, now I understand what you were saying before. Thanks for clarifying. I actually kinda like this thought process because at least I get it.”



I love you DMB


Last one might be what Vivax is saying re: CopCake and DMB association but I might be wrong too (might mean/be something else), just noticed it as I filtered CopCake just now.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 10 2024 03:41 GMT
#5926
With this out of the way, going to bed. Very interested to see how CopCake handles this (still thinks she's town but interested nonetheless)
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 10 2024 03:42 GMT
#5927
On March 10 2024 12:38 iamperfection wrote:
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On March 10 2024 12:36 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:32 Rels wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:24 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:23 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:20 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:19 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:14 Jealous wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:13 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:12 die_meatbaby wrote:
[quote]
the shoot makes you town for me

wow how could have come to such a conclusion

Nah man, the greatest bus of all time is unfolding right in front of our eyes.

Sorry i think I am getting blind. Can you help me to see it?

i dont know if your trolling but DP shot mafia.... i think you can put 2 and 2 together.

yeah he is town. I was wrong I got that. But where is the bus?

he was making a joke. Because its obviously not a bus and would be the most legendary play of all time to shoot your scum partner for cred.

Unecessary too, since I assume not using the shot and using it to kill a townie during the last night would gain scum a mislynch. So it would even be playing actively against their wincon
With shot => 10 town vs 3 scum now => 3 ML before LYLO
Without shot => 9 town (with the gun being used later) vs 4 scum => 2 ML before LYLO

BTW 3 more mislynches allowed, nice. And that's assuming we don't lynch the RB at some point before all BGs die, which would open up the possibility for night saves


cake beeing not just mafia but mafia roleblocker what would be such an importend role in this game would make more sense for her hiding. She just appears enough so it looks like her towngame but she really doesn´t play the same.

so why not vote cake


#vote cake

I wanna see her reaction and trying to fight for her Town aligment as she used to do it in her old Towngames, if not the vote stays until the end!
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 10 2024 03:43 GMT
#5928
Also. I caught TTS D1
(yes I know, I must have been distancing ... lol)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22289 Posts
March 10 2024 03:43 GMT
#5929
On March 10 2024 12:41 Rels wrote:
With this out of the way, going to bed. Very interested to see how CopCake handles this (still thinks she's town but interested nonetheless)


How can you think that?
She‘s like the witch doctor on team dire at this point. Just going in wolololo at the game when she posts.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 10 2024 03:49 GMT
#5930
On March 10 2024 12:34 iamperfection wrote:
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On March 10 2024 12:32 Rels wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:24 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:23 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:20 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:19 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:14 Jealous wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:13 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:12 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:12 DarthPunk wrote:
[quote]

What you mean?

the shoot makes you town for me

wow how could have come to such a conclusion

Nah man, the greatest bus of all time is unfolding right in front of our eyes.

Sorry i think I am getting blind. Can you help me to see it?

i dont know if your trolling but DP shot mafia.... i think you can put 2 and 2 together.

yeah he is town. I was wrong I got that. But where is the bus?

he was making a joke. Because its obviously not a bus and would be the most legendary play of all time to shoot your scum partner for cred.

Unecessary too, since I assume not using the shot and using it to kill a townie during the last night would gain scum a mislynch. So it would even be playing actively against their wincon
With shot => 10 town vs 3 scum now => 3 ML before LYLO
Without shot => 9 town (with the gun being used later) vs 4 scum => 2 ML before LYLO

BTW 3 more mislynches allowed, nice. And that's assuming we don't lynch the RB at some point before all BGs die, which would open up the possibility for night saves

i cant believe you wasted time calculating that lol.


INteresting thing to think about in detail hey. :D
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 10 2024 03:50 GMT
#5931
On March 10 2024 12:35 Rels wrote:
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On March 10 2024 12:32 Rels wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:24 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:23 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:20 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:19 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:14 Jealous wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:13 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:12 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:12 DarthPunk wrote:
[quote]

What you mean?

the shoot makes you town for me

wow how could have come to such a conclusion

Nah man, the greatest bus of all time is unfolding right in front of our eyes.

Sorry i think I am getting blind. Can you help me to see it?

i dont know if your trolling but DP shot mafia.... i think you can put 2 and 2 together.

yeah he is town. I was wrong I got that. But where is the bus?

he was making a joke. Because its obviously not a bus and would be the most legendary play of all time to shoot your scum partner for cred.

Unecessary too, since I assume not using the shot and using it to kill a townie during the last night would gain scum a mislynch. So it would even be playing actively against their wincon
With shot => 10 town vs 3 scum now => 3 ML before LYLO
Without shot => 9 town (with the gun being used later) vs 4 scum => 2 ML before LYLO

BTW 3 more mislynches allowed, nice. And that's assuming we don't lynch the RB at some point before all BGs die, which would open up the possibility for night saves

With Vivax having to be RB though, I guess DP couldn't keep the shot actually. But could have killed the scummiest townie
I guess it would have been me lol


If I was mafia, I just don't claim I have the shot at all.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10313 Posts
March 10 2024 03:51 GMT
#5932
On March 10 2024 12:50 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2024 12:35 Rels wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:32 Rels wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:24 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:23 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:20 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:19 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:14 Jealous wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:13 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:12 die_meatbaby wrote:
[quote]
the shoot makes you town for me

wow how could have come to such a conclusion

Nah man, the greatest bus of all time is unfolding right in front of our eyes.

Sorry i think I am getting blind. Can you help me to see it?

i dont know if your trolling but DP shot mafia.... i think you can put 2 and 2 together.

yeah he is town. I was wrong I got that. But where is the bus?

he was making a joke. Because its obviously not a bus and would be the most legendary play of all time to shoot your scum partner for cred.

Unecessary too, since I assume not using the shot and using it to kill a townie during the last night would gain scum a mislynch. So it would even be playing actively against their wincon
With shot => 10 town vs 3 scum now => 3 ML before LYLO
Without shot => 9 town (with the gun being used later) vs 4 scum => 2 ML before LYLO

BTW 3 more mislynches allowed, nice. And that's assuming we don't lynch the RB at some point before all BGs die, which would open up the possibility for night saves

With Vivax having to be RB though, I guess DP couldn't keep the shot actually. But could have killed the scummiest townie
I guess it would have been me lol


If I was mafia, I just don't claim I have the shot at all.

And if JSL claims you just say they are lying lmao that would be so brutal.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 10 2024 03:52 GMT
#5933
On March 10 2024 12:50 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2024 12:35 Rels wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:32 Rels wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:24 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:23 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:20 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:19 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:14 Jealous wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:13 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:12 die_meatbaby wrote:
[quote]
the shoot makes you town for me

wow how could have come to such a conclusion

Nah man, the greatest bus of all time is unfolding right in front of our eyes.

Sorry i think I am getting blind. Can you help me to see it?

i dont know if your trolling but DP shot mafia.... i think you can put 2 and 2 together.

yeah he is town. I was wrong I got that. But where is the bus?

he was making a joke. Because its obviously not a bus and would be the most legendary play of all time to shoot your scum partner for cred.

Unecessary too, since I assume not using the shot and using it to kill a townie during the last night would gain scum a mislynch. So it would even be playing actively against their wincon
With shot => 10 town vs 3 scum now => 3 ML before LYLO
Without shot => 9 town (with the gun being used later) vs 4 scum => 2 ML before LYLO

BTW 3 more mislynches allowed, nice. And that's assuming we don't lynch the RB at some point before all BGs die, which would open up the possibility for night saves

With Vivax having to be RB though, I guess DP couldn't keep the shot actually. But could have killed the scummiest townie
I guess it would have been me lol


If I was mafia, I just don't claim I have the shot at all.

then you out yourself to the smith if you were mafia. The proper play was to claim it just before the deadline or crumb it if unable before deadline.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 10 2024 03:52 GMT
#5934
On March 10 2024 12:51 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2024 12:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:35 Rels wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:32 Rels wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:24 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:23 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:20 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:19 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:14 Jealous wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:13 iamperfection wrote:
[quote]
wow how could have come to such a conclusion

Nah man, the greatest bus of all time is unfolding right in front of our eyes.

Sorry i think I am getting blind. Can you help me to see it?

i dont know if your trolling but DP shot mafia.... i think you can put 2 and 2 together.

yeah he is town. I was wrong I got that. But where is the bus?

he was making a joke. Because its obviously not a bus and would be the most legendary play of all time to shoot your scum partner for cred.

Unecessary too, since I assume not using the shot and using it to kill a townie during the last night would gain scum a mislynch. So it would even be playing actively against their wincon
With shot => 10 town vs 3 scum now => 3 ML before LYLO
Without shot => 9 town (with the gun being used later) vs 4 scum => 2 ML before LYLO

BTW 3 more mislynches allowed, nice. And that's assuming we don't lynch the RB at some point before all BGs die, which would open up the possibility for night saves

With Vivax having to be RB though, I guess DP couldn't keep the shot actually. But could have killed the scummiest townie
I guess it would have been me lol


If I was mafia, I just don't claim I have the shot at all.

And if JSL claims you just say they are lying lmao that would be so brutal.


Exactly.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 10 2024 03:53 GMT
#5935
On March 10 2024 12:52 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2024 12:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:35 Rels wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:32 Rels wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:24 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:23 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:20 iamperfection wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:19 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:14 Jealous wrote:
On March 10 2024 12:13 iamperfection wrote:
[quote]
wow how could have come to such a conclusion

Nah man, the greatest bus of all time is unfolding right in front of our eyes.

Sorry i think I am getting blind. Can you help me to see it?

i dont know if your trolling but DP shot mafia.... i think you can put 2 and 2 together.

yeah he is town. I was wrong I got that. But where is the bus?

he was making a joke. Because its obviously not a bus and would be the most legendary play of all time to shoot your scum partner for cred.

Unecessary too, since I assume not using the shot and using it to kill a townie during the last night would gain scum a mislynch. So it would even be playing actively against their wincon
With shot => 10 town vs 3 scum now => 3 ML before LYLO
Without shot => 9 town (with the gun being used later) vs 4 scum => 2 ML before LYLO

BTW 3 more mislynches allowed, nice. And that's assuming we don't lynch the RB at some point before all BGs die, which would open up the possibility for night saves

With Vivax having to be RB though, I guess DP couldn't keep the shot actually. But could have killed the scummiest townie
I guess it would have been me lol


If I was mafia, I just don't claim I have the shot at all.

then you out yourself to the smith if you were mafia. The proper play was to claim it just before the deadline or crumb it if unable before deadline.


Yeah actually this makes more sense.


"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 10 2024 03:55 GMT
#5936
Do we have a new mason pair?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10313 Posts
March 10 2024 04:07 GMT
#5937
On March 10 2024 12:55 DarthPunk wrote:
Do we have a new mason pair?

*crickets*
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22289 Posts
March 10 2024 04:08 GMT
#5938
MZ and Palmar will have figured out the game by today so we don‘t need any
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 10 2024 04:42 GMT
#5939
On March 10 2024 13:08 Vivax wrote:
MZ and Palmar will have figured out the game by today so we don‘t need any


lol
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 10 2024 04:45 GMT
#5940
On March 10 2024 12:17 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2024 12:16 Jealous wrote:
So just to be clear, Vivax JK's Slam, and slam dies anyway, but so does marv. That means that there were two shots on Slam, one to break JK and one to kill. I am a bit tipsy and I want to make sure I understand this correctly.

or just a roleblock on vivax which i think is likely

I agree this is most likely.

##Vote: CopCake

/salute
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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