EPTWould rather lynch someone that gives us information today obv but do not wifom yourself out of letting him live if you need to make that decision later in the game.
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Would rather lynch someone that gives us information today obv but do not wifom yourself out of letting him live if you need to make that decision later in the game. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On December 14 2023 19:44 Palmar wrote: Well I do admit to not being the easiest person to talk to. He almost exclusively wanted to talk about Trfel being mafia. I can summarize the chat quickly if you like. ya plz | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On December 14 2023 19:45 Holyflare wrote: I will never accept anyone as a player that lets chez get away with surviving if it comes down to that at end game btw. I am like 99% sure he's mafia and we don't have a way to deal with it. Would rather lynch someone that gives us information today obv but do not wifom yourself out of letting him live if you need to make that decision later in the game. 99 is a lot of percent | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On December 14 2023 19:45 Holyflare wrote: I will never accept anyone as a player that lets chez get away with surviving if it comes down to that at end game btw. I am like 99% sure he's mafia and we don't have a way to deal with it. Would rather lynch someone that gives us information today obv but do not wifom yourself out of letting him live if you need to make that decision later in the game. Well. Your link from Chez breaking character to help Sandroba is pretty damning if Sandroba flips red. Should bring in some pressure. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
This means we are in the right place. All the other bs doesn’t matter. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
It's 100 but I want to keep up the guise of being reasonable | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
Sandroba asks me about my thoughts and I claim to be happy with the game state. Sandroba wants to know why because he thinks town is fucked if Trfel is mafia. I claim he isn't so Sandroba asks me if I'm mafia which I deny. I claim to be happy because Sandroba is being lynched. He is clearly a little annoyed here and asks me to assume he's town and give him mafia team. I dump some combo of HF/Chez/marv/trfel/koshi which is what I thought at the time. I talk about how I generally miss one mafia completely after he points out I just said Trfel is town. Sandroba says he's getting "mafia tells" from chez. I say he's a troll and lynching him is pointless at the moment. Sandroba says he's going with Trfel and I double down on "Trfel is town". I say it's scummy that HF thinks I'm town and ask sandroba for reasons trfel is mafia. He says he'll summarize in the thread and I complain about having to read. I suggest sandroba claims a blue role, but he says he doesn't know I'm town. Asks me why I want to know. I say it's because I need information to decide on the night kill. Sandroba keeps talking about Trfel, tells me to read DP's post. I complain about Trfel being boring to read and ask him to talk about his potential blue claim. He says I'm not giving him town vibes. I disagree. I tell him to assume I'm mafia and ask him for strategy advice for mafia. Ask him who I should misynch excluding Trfel claiming that would be counterproductive. He points out that my line of "note, I'm not claiming mafia, this is all hypothetical" is scummy. I disagree and say it's towny. I claim sandroba is null to me, not scum. He says I better get reading then, I disagree and say I'm happy with the game state. He asks me to read Trfel again and I say that would be counterproductive. He complains about my refusal to talk about Trfel. Sandroba complains again that I should engage with him. I say I'm just taking Trfel off the table and say I'm willing to talk about his blue claims, mafia strategy, night kills, other players. I offer him to talk about how town I am as well. He reiterates that my read on Trfel would help him form an opinion on me and calls my suggests my topics are troll topics (somewhat fair...) I start calling Trfel scummy based on nothing but the 4 page filter. But immediately switch to talking about the DP night kill. He says I'm wrong on everything. I start saying mafia would want to NK me because leadership, and start listing off why players wouldn't be shot. He says mafia wants me alive cause all my reads suck. He complains about me calling him scum early, I praise my point about slam smiley face analysis. He asks me to stop trolling, we go back to the DP NK conversation where he claims I'm alive because I was wrong, and I claim I'm alive because mafia was afraid I would be protected. Some more points by me about how everyone liked DP and he disaagrees. Sandro talks about Trfel again, says he's gonna post in the thread and says he wants me to comment on it. I say I have an agenda to push in the thread so I probably won't and then I had to leave. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
On December 14 2023 19:45 Holyflare wrote: I will never accept anyone as a player that lets chez get away with surviving if it comes down to that at end game btw. I am like 99% sure he's mafia and we don't have a way to deal with it. Would rather lynch someone that gives us information today obv but do not wifom yourself out of letting him live if you need to make that decision later in the game. This is actually correct. If in lylo with Chez alive, you just hold your breath and lynch him. It's annoying but that's the optimal play as much as it sucks. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
a) he's too reasonable and doesn't get annoyed enough at my trolling and mafia claiming. I feel like a townie would just have told me to shut up and stop being an idiot. b) his interests are way too focused on Trfel and Trfel only. I never felt like he randomly wanted to talk about other shit . I still think sandro may be based on our interactions in that chat. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On December 14 2023 20:08 Palmar wrote: I am NOT easy to deal with in chats like these. Colour me shocked x | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
I posted above that I would expect sand to be dumping thoughts on all and sundry. The fact Palmar is saying he was hyper focused on Trfel I think paints sandro in a really bad light. I also think it’s weird he equivocates about Palmar’s alignment in that chat, it’s a way of not being open and not posting constructively. | ||
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Trfel
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Trfel
7015 Posts
If sandroba is mafia then he masoned with Palmar (or had Palmar mason with him but whatever) to try and survive. Surprised he would be so stubborn in this case. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On December 14 2023 21:35 Trfel wrote: What is the mafia motivation for sandroba being resistant to dicsussing things other than myself? Genuine question. If sandroba is mafia then he masoned with Palmar (or had Palmar mason with him but whatever) to try and survive. Surprised he would be so stubborn in this case. Not so much resistant as apparently not capable It’s harder to escape the narrative you’ve written for yourself as mafia. As town you’re a lot freer with your thoughts as nothing is predetermined | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On December 14 2023 22:12 marvellosity wrote: That's fair, I guess I was reading sandroba's stubbornness in contrast to Palmar's stubbornness and it didn't feel too out of place then but I can see that.Not so much resistant as apparently not capable It’s harder to escape the narrative you’ve written for yourself as mafia. As town you’re a lot freer with your thoughts as nothing is predetermined | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On December 14 2023 22:23 Trfel wrote: That's fair, I guess I was reading sandroba's stubbornness in contrast to Palmar's stubbornness and it didn't feel too out of place then but I can see that. I think one is stubborn and one is inflexible. There’s a difference | ||
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