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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 14 2023 10:45 GMT
#1761
I will never accept anyone as a player that lets chez get away with surviving if it comes down to that at end game btw. I am like 99% sure he's mafia and we don't have a way to deal with it.

Would rather lynch someone that gives us information today obv but do not wifom yourself out of letting him live if you need to make that decision later in the game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 14 2023 10:45 GMT
#1762
On December 14 2023 19:44 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 19:30 Holyflare wrote:
Did sandro not saying anything useful in your mason chat despite asking for it?

Well I do admit to not being the easiest person to talk to.

He almost exclusively wanted to talk about Trfel being mafia. I can summarize the chat quickly if you like.


ya plz
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 10:48 GMT
#1763
On December 14 2023 19:45 Holyflare wrote:
I will never accept anyone as a player that lets chez get away with surviving if it comes down to that at end game btw. I am like 99% sure he's mafia and we don't have a way to deal with it.

Would rather lynch someone that gives us information today obv but do not wifom yourself out of letting him live if you need to make that decision later in the game.

99 is a lot of percent
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 14 2023 10:48 GMT
#1764
On December 14 2023 19:45 Holyflare wrote:
I will never accept anyone as a player that lets chez get away with surviving if it comes down to that at end game btw. I am like 99% sure he's mafia and we don't have a way to deal with it.

Would rather lynch someone that gives us information today obv but do not wifom yourself out of letting him live if you need to make that decision later in the game.

Well. Your link from Chez breaking character to help Sandroba is pretty damning if Sandroba flips red.
Should bring in some pressure.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 10:49 GMT
#1765
My top 3 townreads, me, palmar, Koshi, are on sand.

This means we are in the right place. All the other bs doesn’t matter.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 14 2023 10:52 GMT
#1766
On December 14 2023 19:48 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 19:45 Holyflare wrote:
I will never accept anyone as a player that lets chez get away with surviving if it comes down to that at end game btw. I am like 99% sure he's mafia and we don't have a way to deal with it.

Would rather lynch someone that gives us information today obv but do not wifom yourself out of letting him live if you need to make that decision later in the game.

99 is a lot of percent


It's 100 but I want to keep up the guise of being reasonable
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 11:02 GMT
#1767
Ok chat is maybe 200 lines long or so:

Sandroba asks me about my thoughts and I claim to be happy with the game state.

Sandroba wants to know why because he thinks town is fucked if Trfel is mafia. I claim he isn't so Sandroba asks me if I'm mafia which I deny.

I claim to be happy because Sandroba is being lynched.

He is clearly a little annoyed here and asks me to assume he's town and give him mafia team. I dump some combo of

HF/Chez/marv/trfel/koshi which is what I thought at the time.

I talk about how I generally miss one mafia completely after he points out I just said Trfel is town.

Sandroba says he's getting "mafia tells" from chez. I say he's a troll and lynching him is pointless at the moment. Sandroba says he's going with Trfel and I double down on "Trfel is town".

I say it's scummy that HF thinks I'm town and ask sandroba for reasons trfel is mafia. He says he'll summarize in the thread and I complain about having to read.

I suggest sandroba claims a blue role, but he says he doesn't know I'm town. Asks me why I want to know. I say it's because I need information to decide on the night kill. Sandroba keeps talking about Trfel, tells me to read DP's post.

I complain about Trfel being boring to read and ask him to talk about his potential blue claim.

He says I'm not giving him town vibes. I disagree.

I tell him to assume I'm mafia and ask him for strategy advice for mafia. Ask him who I should misynch excluding Trfel claiming that would be counterproductive.

He points out that my line of "note, I'm not claiming mafia, this is all hypothetical" is scummy. I disagree and say it's towny.

I claim sandroba is null to me, not scum. He says I better get reading then, I disagree and say I'm happy with the game state. He asks me to read Trfel again and I say that would be counterproductive. He complains about my refusal to talk about Trfel.

Sandroba complains again that I should engage with him. I say I'm just taking Trfel off the table and say I'm willing to talk about his blue claims, mafia strategy, night kills, other players. I offer him to talk about how town I am as well. He reiterates that my read on Trfel would help him form an opinion on me and calls my suggests my topics are troll topics (somewhat fair...)

I start calling Trfel scummy based on nothing but the 4 page filter. But immediately switch to talking about the DP night kill.

He says I'm wrong on everything. I start saying mafia would want to NK me because leadership, and start listing off why players wouldn't be shot. He says mafia wants me alive cause all my reads suck.

He complains about me calling him scum early, I praise my point about slam smiley face analysis.

He asks me to stop trolling, we go back to the DP NK conversation where he claims I'm alive because I was wrong, and I claim I'm alive because mafia was afraid I would be protected. Some more points by me about how everyone liked DP and he disaagrees.

Sandro talks about Trfel again, says he's gonna post in the thread and says he wants me to comment on it. I say I have an agenda to push in the thread so I probably won't and then I had to leave.


Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 11:04 GMT
#1768
On December 14 2023 19:45 Holyflare wrote:
I will never accept anyone as a player that lets chez get away with surviving if it comes down to that at end game btw. I am like 99% sure he's mafia and we don't have a way to deal with it.

Would rather lynch someone that gives us information today obv but do not wifom yourself out of letting him live if you need to make that decision later in the game.

This is actually correct.

If in lylo with Chez alive, you just hold your breath and lynch him. It's annoying but that's the optimal play as much as it sucks.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 11:06 GMT
#1769
So are you town and alive because you’re wrong, but also pushing the idea you might be scummy for various reasons.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 11:07 GMT
#1770
Well again, in sandro's slight defense I pretty much claimed mafia a few times in that chat.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 11:08 GMT
#1771
I am NOT easy to deal with in chats like these.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 14 2023 11:09 GMT
#1772
But what I come away with is:

a) he's too reasonable and doesn't get annoyed enough at my trolling and mafia claiming. I feel like a townie would just have told me to shut up and stop being an idiot.

b) his interests are way too focused on Trfel and Trfel only. I never felt like he randomly wanted to talk about other shit .

I still think sandro may be based on our interactions in that chat.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 11:10 GMT
#1773
He knows you though right…
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 11:10 GMT
#1774
On December 14 2023 20:08 Palmar wrote:
I am NOT easy to deal with in chats like these.

Colour me shocked x
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 11:17 GMT
#1775
Town needs to lynch sand here. Just follow me and blame me/ (try to 😁)lynch me if I’m wrong.

I posted above that I would expect sand to be dumping thoughts on all and sundry. The fact Palmar is saying he was hyper focused on Trfel I think paints sandro in a really bad light.

I also think it’s weird he equivocates about Palmar’s alignment in that chat, it’s a way of not being open and not posting constructively.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 14 2023 12:23 GMT
#1776
Palmar, may I ask why my play is so boring to you?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 14 2023 12:35 GMT
#1777
What is the mafia motivation for sandroba being resistant to dicsussing things other than myself? Genuine question.

If sandroba is mafia then he masoned with Palmar (or had Palmar mason with him but whatever) to try and survive. Surprised he would be so stubborn in this case.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 13:12 GMT
#1778
On December 14 2023 21:35 Trfel wrote:
What is the mafia motivation for sandroba being resistant to dicsussing things other than myself? Genuine question.

If sandroba is mafia then he masoned with Palmar (or had Palmar mason with him but whatever) to try and survive. Surprised he would be so stubborn in this case.

Not so much resistant as apparently not capable

It’s harder to escape the narrative you’ve written for yourself as mafia. As town you’re a lot freer with your thoughts as nothing is predetermined
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 14 2023 13:23 GMT
#1779
On December 14 2023 22:12 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 21:35 Trfel wrote:
What is the mafia motivation for sandroba being resistant to dicsussing things other than myself? Genuine question.

If sandroba is mafia then he masoned with Palmar (or had Palmar mason with him but whatever) to try and survive. Surprised he would be so stubborn in this case.

Not so much resistant as apparently not capable

It’s harder to escape the narrative you’ve written for yourself as mafia. As town you’re a lot freer with your thoughts as nothing is predetermined
That's fair, I guess I was reading sandroba's stubbornness in contrast to Palmar's stubbornness and it didn't feel too out of place then but I can see that.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 13:24 GMT
#1780
On December 14 2023 22:23 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 22:12 marvellosity wrote:
On December 14 2023 21:35 Trfel wrote:
What is the mafia motivation for sandroba being resistant to dicsussing things other than myself? Genuine question.

If sandroba is mafia then he masoned with Palmar (or had Palmar mason with him but whatever) to try and survive. Surprised he would be so stubborn in this case.

Not so much resistant as apparently not capable

It’s harder to escape the narrative you’ve written for yourself as mafia. As town you’re a lot freer with your thoughts as nothing is predetermined
That's fair, I guess I was reading sandroba's stubbornness in contrast to Palmar's stubbornness and it didn't feel too out of place then but I can see that.

I think one is stubborn and one is inflexible.

There’s a difference
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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