• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:19
CET 20:19
KST 04:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win1Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)32
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey!
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Which foreign pros are considered the best? Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Understand The Significa…
leoparker22
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1624 users

Winter Warfare Mafia - Page 87

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 85 86 87 88 89 182 Next
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:14 GMT
#1721
I think we lynch Sandroba, nothing he said in the chat with me has changed my mind all that much.

I'm obviously less certain than I was on day 1. I generally do my best work on day 1.

Truffle looks a lot worse than on day 1. I remember my thoughts being "but at least he's trying" along with the impatience to dump his read into the thread. I can't really say he's trying anymore.

DMB looks marginally worse, but I still feel like the posting tends to lean bad town.

Marv looks a little better, and I really hope this is town marv. There are several warning signs though that I've almost decided to ignore and wait.

Idk about the trolls, chez and slam. I'm just ignoring them for now.

Rayn/HF/Koshi has a mafia, idk who but atm I'm leaning HF. I think it's really scummy that HF thinks I'm town.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 10:14 GMT
#1722
I like your point about DMB and Palmar, not because I think palmar is mafia atm, but because it seems… I dunno.

I think about what sand (!) said about DMB’s post and the comment about Palmar’s filter. Then i read that post you mention. Not sure I like it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:15 GMT
#1723
Koshi the mason thing is only randomed who gets to initiate.

For example, to day I initiated a mason thing with Sandro.

Yesterday, slam initiated a mason thing with me.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:16 GMT
#1724
On December 14 2023 19:08 marvellosity wrote:
Is rayn mafia and that’s why the game makes no sense to me?

This is a possibility.

He's not frantically tunneling anything. That's pretty scummy.
Computer says mafia
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 14 2023 10:17 GMT
#1725
On December 14 2023 19:11 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 19:09 Koshi wrote:
On December 14 2023 19:04 marvellosity wrote:
On December 14 2023 19:01 Koshi wrote:
On December 14 2023 19:00 marvellosity wrote:
On December 14 2023 18:58 Koshi wrote:
On December 14 2023 18:09 marvellosity wrote:
I have doubts but I’m not thrilled with any other lynch either.

I’d rather you didn’t blind sheep me and told me your view on sand? I know you said you had no reason to scumread him, but is that all there is to it?

Yes. I have said this clearly all game.
I don't hold him to the same standards as you guys do.
I think I read a decent case which made it plausible that he is under performing. So in that aspect I can see it.

But I think DMB is performing worse than Sandroba (which doesn't make her more mafia)


All bs about your mafia game and town game aside, what’s your reason for a lack of drive today?

My hearth and head are in a calm place and I am happy with the way I am approaching this game.

:/

But don’t you really want to lynch mafia…

I will not waste my vote and put it were I think it needs to be for town.
I was wrong yesterday. Completely.

Today I think DMB is mafia, I think her lists are ridiculous and the fact Palmar is mafia 5/6 times in upper lists makes me suspicious that DMB and Palmar are mafia.

I didn't think sandroba and Tfrel were mafia yesterday. I still don't see it for myself but I can sheeep you because your activity during night was more than enough to trust you.

I think rayn could be mafia but he is not a main suspect.

HF is town
Palmar is town for me but like I said. DMB made me doubt it slightly.
Slam is very town for me. But apparently the mason thing is randomed so I am not sure if that affected me. But I really like how he played so far. He is readable, even though I haven't really tried.

Can you explain for me a little?

I’m flicking through rayn’s filter in that game you linked.

Turns out my memory of peoples play styles as mafia from 5+ years ago may have been fuzzed by time.

HF? I think he is chill and trying to solve the game. Not caring about how he is positioned in the thread but caring enough that his contribution are validated in the town. (with his "I am an asset" comment & wanting to be noticed by DMB & maybe even saying I hate him while I obviously don't but he wants to be "part" of town because he has no scumteam)

rayn? Dont know. It is a feeling that can be wrong. What is he really thinking atm? I am so uninterested about the HF thing. For the rest. I don't know. I said it before. To be really town to me, he needs to scratch an itch he didn't scratch yet.
I had a good night of sleep.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:19 GMT
#1726
On December 14 2023 17:33 marvellosity wrote:
I feel like I suddenly have practically no townreads which is really awkward

Gonna help me out, Palmar? Or am I wrong here too?

Where’s rayn?


DP was the towniest

DMB is probably townread
Slam is probably townread
Koshi is annoying but probably townread
You and I kinda need to work under the assumption we're town.

The game is a little fucked if there's 2 mafia in the above list.

Chez/HF/Trfel/Sandro/rayn is the list that needs to be lynched into

The game is now at 3 mafia vs 7 townies, due to not having 13 players we may be in lylo tomorrow if things go badly, which is why it's really important to do a disciplined lynch today that if wrong at least gives a bunch of information.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 10:20 GMT
#1727
On December 14 2023 19:14 Palmar wrote:
I think we lynch Sandroba, nothing he said in the chat with me has changed my mind all that much.

I'm obviously less certain than I was on day 1. I generally do my best work on day 1.


Truffle looks a lot worse than on day 1. I remember my thoughts being "but at least he's trying" along with the impatience to dump his read into the thread. I can't really say he's trying anymore.

DMB looks marginally worse, but I still feel like the posting tends to lean bad town.

Marv looks a little better, and I really hope this is town marv. There are several warning signs though that I've almost decided to ignore and wait.

Idk about the trolls, chez and slam. I'm just ignoring them for now.

Rayn/HF/Koshi has a mafia, idk who but atm I'm leaning HF. I think it's really scummy that HF thinks I'm town.

This is why I’m nervous palmar, I know you struggle to let go of your d1 stuff.

I really wanted sand to talk more about the more interesting players than the LHF. But some of the points seem valid too.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 10:22 GMT
#1728
On December 14 2023 19:19 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 17:33 marvellosity wrote:
I feel like I suddenly have practically no townreads which is really awkward

Gonna help me out, Palmar? Or am I wrong here too?

Where’s rayn?


DP was the towniest

DMB is probably townread
Slam is probably townread
Koshi is annoying but probably townread
You and I kinda need to work under the assumption we're town.

The game is a little fucked if there's 2 mafia in the above list.

Chez/HF/Trfel/Sandro/rayn is the list that needs to be lynched into

The game is now at 3 mafia vs 7 townies, due to not having 13 players we may be in lylo tomorrow if things go badly, which is why it's really important to do a disciplined lynch today that if wrong at least gives a bunch of information.

I don’t think there’s 2 mafia in that list. I think DMB maybe can. Like I said to Koshi I don’t understand why you are in her scumteams.

At best she is annoyed by your ego, but she literally said your filter was good. Like there’s not a reason you’re a scumread other than not liking your play style? What is that?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 10:23 GMT
#1729
On December 14 2023 19:17 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 19:11 marvellosity wrote:
On December 14 2023 19:09 Koshi wrote:
On December 14 2023 19:04 marvellosity wrote:
On December 14 2023 19:01 Koshi wrote:
On December 14 2023 19:00 marvellosity wrote:
On December 14 2023 18:58 Koshi wrote:
On December 14 2023 18:09 marvellosity wrote:
I have doubts but I’m not thrilled with any other lynch either.

I’d rather you didn’t blind sheep me and told me your view on sand? I know you said you had no reason to scumread him, but is that all there is to it?

Yes. I have said this clearly all game.
I don't hold him to the same standards as you guys do.
I think I read a decent case which made it plausible that he is under performing. So in that aspect I can see it.

But I think DMB is performing worse than Sandroba (which doesn't make her more mafia)


All bs about your mafia game and town game aside, what’s your reason for a lack of drive today?

My hearth and head are in a calm place and I am happy with the way I am approaching this game.

:/

But don’t you really want to lynch mafia…

I will not waste my vote and put it were I think it needs to be for town.
I was wrong yesterday. Completely.

Today I think DMB is mafia, I think her lists are ridiculous and the fact Palmar is mafia 5/6 times in upper lists makes me suspicious that DMB and Palmar are mafia.

I didn't think sandroba and Tfrel were mafia yesterday. I still don't see it for myself but I can sheeep you because your activity during night was more than enough to trust you.

I think rayn could be mafia but he is not a main suspect.

HF is town
Palmar is town for me but like I said. DMB made me doubt it slightly.
Slam is very town for me. But apparently the mason thing is randomed so I am not sure if that affected me. But I really like how he played so far. He is readable, even though I haven't really tried.

Can you explain for me a little?

I’m flicking through rayn’s filter in that game you linked.

Turns out my memory of peoples play styles as mafia from 5+ years ago may have been fuzzed by time.

HF? I think he is chill and trying to solve the game. Not caring about how he is positioned in the thread but caring enough that his contribution are validated in the town. (with his "I am an asset" comment & wanting to be noticed by DMB & maybe even saying I hate him while I obviously don't but he wants to be "part" of town because he has no scumteam)

rayn? Dont know. It is a feeling that can be wrong. What is he really thinking atm? I am so uninterested about the HF thing. For the rest. I don't know. I said it before. To be really town to me, he needs to scratch an itch he didn't scratch yet.

I agree 100% with this whole post.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:25 GMT
#1730
I still think it's scummy that HF thinks I'm town.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 10:26 GMT
#1731
Palmar, can you look at rayn please?

Like I said I just have this sense today that the game doesn’t make sense.

And that’s usually because I am townreading someone I shouldn’t be.

If rayn is maybe mafia, then sand is probably town?

Rayn is gonna be mad at me here because I’m basically calling him possible mafia for no reason other than i feel weird.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:26 GMT
#1732
Also mafia is annoyingly disciplined.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 10:26 GMT
#1733
On December 14 2023 19:25 Palmar wrote:
I still think it's scummy that HF thinks I'm town.

Why?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 10:27 GMT
#1734
I think Koshi is town now
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 14 2023 10:27 GMT
#1735
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 10:28 GMT
#1736
I mean I’ve thought he was town previously, but I am hardening that stance. Need to make sense of the game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:28 GMT
#1737
On December 14 2023 19:26 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar, can you look at rayn please?

Like I said I just have this sense today that the game doesn’t make sense.

And that’s usually because I am townreading someone I shouldn’t be.

If rayn is maybe mafia, then sand is probably town?

Rayn is gonna be mad at me here because I’m basically calling him possible mafia for no reason other than i feel weird.


See this is what I mean by warning signs.

While I absolutely can see rayn being scum, I don't see why that has any relation to sandroba's alignment. I really only believe in individual filter reading and I think you do too.

I'm reading DMB at the moment, can look into rayn later today.

I really should be reading Trfel but I just so much do not want to do that because boring.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 10:28 GMT
#1738
On December 14 2023 19:28 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 19:26 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar, can you look at rayn please?

Like I said I just have this sense today that the game doesn’t make sense.

And that’s usually because I am townreading someone I shouldn’t be.

If rayn is maybe mafia, then sand is probably town?

Rayn is gonna be mad at me here because I’m basically calling him possible mafia for no reason other than i feel weird.


See this is what I mean by warning signs.

While I absolutely can see rayn being scum, I don't see why that has any relation to sandroba's alignment. I really only believe in individual filter reading and I think you do too.

I'm reading DMB at the moment, can look into rayn later today.

I really should be reading Trfel but I just so much do not want to do that because boring.

Rayn came in and vote switched to sand d1
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 14 2023 10:28 GMT
#1739
On December 14 2023 19:25 Palmar wrote:
I still think it's scummy that HF thinks I'm town.


Skill issue.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:28 GMT
#1740
On December 14 2023 19:26 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 19:25 Palmar wrote:
I still think it's scummy that HF thinks I'm town.

Why?

I just do.

I feel like town HF would be absolutely jackhammering me right now.
Computer says mafia
Prev 1 85 86 87 88 89 182 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 41m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 672
IndyStarCraft 261
UpATreeSC 138
JuggernautJason66
Livibee 65
MindelVK 46
ForJumy 13
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2442
Shuttle 594
Larva 404
Dewaltoss 192
Light 180
firebathero 134
Rush 59
NaDa 23
Dota 2
qojqva3051
Dendi860
League of Legends
C9.Mang0127
Counter-Strike
byalli2586
fl0m2173
pashabiceps2058
allub349
adren_tv67
ptr_tv60
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu268
Khaldor117
Other Games
gofns9960
Grubby3989
FrodaN1748
Beastyqt925
ceh9528
DeMusliM283
ArmadaUGS190
Harstem186
QueenE125
ToD94
Mew2King81
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 19
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 10
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix13
• 80smullet 11
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade1110
• Shiphtur593
Other Games
• imaqtpie1761
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
5h 41m
Replay Cast
13h 41m
RongYI Cup
15h 41m
herO vs Solar
TriGGeR vs Maru
WardiTV Invitational
18h 41m
The PondCast
1d 13h
HomeStory Cup
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
HomeStory Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
HomeStory Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-26
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.