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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:14 GMT
#1721
I think we lynch Sandroba, nothing he said in the chat with me has changed my mind all that much.

I'm obviously less certain than I was on day 1. I generally do my best work on day 1.

Truffle looks a lot worse than on day 1. I remember my thoughts being "but at least he's trying" along with the impatience to dump his read into the thread. I can't really say he's trying anymore.

DMB looks marginally worse, but I still feel like the posting tends to lean bad town.

Marv looks a little better, and I really hope this is town marv. There are several warning signs though that I've almost decided to ignore and wait.

Idk about the trolls, chez and slam. I'm just ignoring them for now.

Rayn/HF/Koshi has a mafia, idk who but atm I'm leaning HF. I think it's really scummy that HF thinks I'm town.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 10:14 GMT
#1722
I like your point about DMB and Palmar, not because I think palmar is mafia atm, but because it seems… I dunno.

I think about what sand (!) said about DMB’s post and the comment about Palmar’s filter. Then i read that post you mention. Not sure I like it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:15 GMT
#1723
Koshi the mason thing is only randomed who gets to initiate.

For example, to day I initiated a mason thing with Sandro.

Yesterday, slam initiated a mason thing with me.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:16 GMT
#1724
On December 14 2023 19:08 marvellosity wrote:
Is rayn mafia and that’s why the game makes no sense to me?

This is a possibility.

He's not frantically tunneling anything. That's pretty scummy.
Computer says mafia
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 14 2023 10:17 GMT
#1725
On December 14 2023 19:11 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 19:09 Koshi wrote:
On December 14 2023 19:04 marvellosity wrote:
On December 14 2023 19:01 Koshi wrote:
On December 14 2023 19:00 marvellosity wrote:
On December 14 2023 18:58 Koshi wrote:
On December 14 2023 18:09 marvellosity wrote:
I have doubts but I’m not thrilled with any other lynch either.

I’d rather you didn’t blind sheep me and told me your view on sand? I know you said you had no reason to scumread him, but is that all there is to it?

Yes. I have said this clearly all game.
I don't hold him to the same standards as you guys do.
I think I read a decent case which made it plausible that he is under performing. So in that aspect I can see it.

But I think DMB is performing worse than Sandroba (which doesn't make her more mafia)


All bs about your mafia game and town game aside, what’s your reason for a lack of drive today?

My hearth and head are in a calm place and I am happy with the way I am approaching this game.

:/

But don’t you really want to lynch mafia…

I will not waste my vote and put it were I think it needs to be for town.
I was wrong yesterday. Completely.

Today I think DMB is mafia, I think her lists are ridiculous and the fact Palmar is mafia 5/6 times in upper lists makes me suspicious that DMB and Palmar are mafia.

I didn't think sandroba and Tfrel were mafia yesterday. I still don't see it for myself but I can sheeep you because your activity during night was more than enough to trust you.

I think rayn could be mafia but he is not a main suspect.

HF is town
Palmar is town for me but like I said. DMB made me doubt it slightly.
Slam is very town for me. But apparently the mason thing is randomed so I am not sure if that affected me. But I really like how he played so far. He is readable, even though I haven't really tried.

Can you explain for me a little?

I’m flicking through rayn’s filter in that game you linked.

Turns out my memory of peoples play styles as mafia from 5+ years ago may have been fuzzed by time.

HF? I think he is chill and trying to solve the game. Not caring about how he is positioned in the thread but caring enough that his contribution are validated in the town. (with his "I am an asset" comment & wanting to be noticed by DMB & maybe even saying I hate him while I obviously don't but he wants to be "part" of town because he has no scumteam)

rayn? Dont know. It is a feeling that can be wrong. What is he really thinking atm? I am so uninterested about the HF thing. For the rest. I don't know. I said it before. To be really town to me, he needs to scratch an itch he didn't scratch yet.
I had a good night of sleep.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:19 GMT
#1726
On December 14 2023 17:33 marvellosity wrote:
I feel like I suddenly have practically no townreads which is really awkward

Gonna help me out, Palmar? Or am I wrong here too?

Where’s rayn?


DP was the towniest

DMB is probably townread
Slam is probably townread
Koshi is annoying but probably townread
You and I kinda need to work under the assumption we're town.

The game is a little fucked if there's 2 mafia in the above list.

Chez/HF/Trfel/Sandro/rayn is the list that needs to be lynched into

The game is now at 3 mafia vs 7 townies, due to not having 13 players we may be in lylo tomorrow if things go badly, which is why it's really important to do a disciplined lynch today that if wrong at least gives a bunch of information.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 10:20 GMT
#1727
On December 14 2023 19:14 Palmar wrote:
I think we lynch Sandroba, nothing he said in the chat with me has changed my mind all that much.

I'm obviously less certain than I was on day 1. I generally do my best work on day 1.


Truffle looks a lot worse than on day 1. I remember my thoughts being "but at least he's trying" along with the impatience to dump his read into the thread. I can't really say he's trying anymore.

DMB looks marginally worse, but I still feel like the posting tends to lean bad town.

Marv looks a little better, and I really hope this is town marv. There are several warning signs though that I've almost decided to ignore and wait.

Idk about the trolls, chez and slam. I'm just ignoring them for now.

Rayn/HF/Koshi has a mafia, idk who but atm I'm leaning HF. I think it's really scummy that HF thinks I'm town.

This is why I’m nervous palmar, I know you struggle to let go of your d1 stuff.

I really wanted sand to talk more about the more interesting players than the LHF. But some of the points seem valid too.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 10:22 GMT
#1728
On December 14 2023 19:19 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 17:33 marvellosity wrote:
I feel like I suddenly have practically no townreads which is really awkward

Gonna help me out, Palmar? Or am I wrong here too?

Where’s rayn?


DP was the towniest

DMB is probably townread
Slam is probably townread
Koshi is annoying but probably townread
You and I kinda need to work under the assumption we're town.

The game is a little fucked if there's 2 mafia in the above list.

Chez/HF/Trfel/Sandro/rayn is the list that needs to be lynched into

The game is now at 3 mafia vs 7 townies, due to not having 13 players we may be in lylo tomorrow if things go badly, which is why it's really important to do a disciplined lynch today that if wrong at least gives a bunch of information.

I don’t think there’s 2 mafia in that list. I think DMB maybe can. Like I said to Koshi I don’t understand why you are in her scumteams.

At best she is annoyed by your ego, but she literally said your filter was good. Like there’s not a reason you’re a scumread other than not liking your play style? What is that?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 10:23 GMT
#1729
On December 14 2023 19:17 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 19:11 marvellosity wrote:
On December 14 2023 19:09 Koshi wrote:
On December 14 2023 19:04 marvellosity wrote:
On December 14 2023 19:01 Koshi wrote:
On December 14 2023 19:00 marvellosity wrote:
On December 14 2023 18:58 Koshi wrote:
On December 14 2023 18:09 marvellosity wrote:
I have doubts but I’m not thrilled with any other lynch either.

I’d rather you didn’t blind sheep me and told me your view on sand? I know you said you had no reason to scumread him, but is that all there is to it?

Yes. I have said this clearly all game.
I don't hold him to the same standards as you guys do.
I think I read a decent case which made it plausible that he is under performing. So in that aspect I can see it.

But I think DMB is performing worse than Sandroba (which doesn't make her more mafia)


All bs about your mafia game and town game aside, what’s your reason for a lack of drive today?

My hearth and head are in a calm place and I am happy with the way I am approaching this game.

:/

But don’t you really want to lynch mafia…

I will not waste my vote and put it were I think it needs to be for town.
I was wrong yesterday. Completely.

Today I think DMB is mafia, I think her lists are ridiculous and the fact Palmar is mafia 5/6 times in upper lists makes me suspicious that DMB and Palmar are mafia.

I didn't think sandroba and Tfrel were mafia yesterday. I still don't see it for myself but I can sheeep you because your activity during night was more than enough to trust you.

I think rayn could be mafia but he is not a main suspect.

HF is town
Palmar is town for me but like I said. DMB made me doubt it slightly.
Slam is very town for me. But apparently the mason thing is randomed so I am not sure if that affected me. But I really like how he played so far. He is readable, even though I haven't really tried.

Can you explain for me a little?

I’m flicking through rayn’s filter in that game you linked.

Turns out my memory of peoples play styles as mafia from 5+ years ago may have been fuzzed by time.

HF? I think he is chill and trying to solve the game. Not caring about how he is positioned in the thread but caring enough that his contribution are validated in the town. (with his "I am an asset" comment & wanting to be noticed by DMB & maybe even saying I hate him while I obviously don't but he wants to be "part" of town because he has no scumteam)

rayn? Dont know. It is a feeling that can be wrong. What is he really thinking atm? I am so uninterested about the HF thing. For the rest. I don't know. I said it before. To be really town to me, he needs to scratch an itch he didn't scratch yet.

I agree 100% with this whole post.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:25 GMT
#1730
I still think it's scummy that HF thinks I'm town.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 10:26 GMT
#1731
Palmar, can you look at rayn please?

Like I said I just have this sense today that the game doesn’t make sense.

And that’s usually because I am townreading someone I shouldn’t be.

If rayn is maybe mafia, then sand is probably town?

Rayn is gonna be mad at me here because I’m basically calling him possible mafia for no reason other than i feel weird.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:26 GMT
#1732
Also mafia is annoyingly disciplined.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 10:26 GMT
#1733
On December 14 2023 19:25 Palmar wrote:
I still think it's scummy that HF thinks I'm town.

Why?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 10:27 GMT
#1734
I think Koshi is town now
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 14 2023 10:27 GMT
#1735
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 10:28 GMT
#1736
I mean I’ve thought he was town previously, but I am hardening that stance. Need to make sense of the game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:28 GMT
#1737
On December 14 2023 19:26 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar, can you look at rayn please?

Like I said I just have this sense today that the game doesn’t make sense.

And that’s usually because I am townreading someone I shouldn’t be.

If rayn is maybe mafia, then sand is probably town?

Rayn is gonna be mad at me here because I’m basically calling him possible mafia for no reason other than i feel weird.


See this is what I mean by warning signs.

While I absolutely can see rayn being scum, I don't see why that has any relation to sandroba's alignment. I really only believe in individual filter reading and I think you do too.

I'm reading DMB at the moment, can look into rayn later today.

I really should be reading Trfel but I just so much do not want to do that because boring.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 10:28 GMT
#1738
On December 14 2023 19:28 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 19:26 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar, can you look at rayn please?

Like I said I just have this sense today that the game doesn’t make sense.

And that’s usually because I am townreading someone I shouldn’t be.

If rayn is maybe mafia, then sand is probably town?

Rayn is gonna be mad at me here because I’m basically calling him possible mafia for no reason other than i feel weird.


See this is what I mean by warning signs.

While I absolutely can see rayn being scum, I don't see why that has any relation to sandroba's alignment. I really only believe in individual filter reading and I think you do too.

I'm reading DMB at the moment, can look into rayn later today.

I really should be reading Trfel but I just so much do not want to do that because boring.

Rayn came in and vote switched to sand d1
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 14 2023 10:28 GMT
#1739
On December 14 2023 19:25 Palmar wrote:
I still think it's scummy that HF thinks I'm town.


Skill issue.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 14 2023 10:28 GMT
#1740
On December 14 2023 19:26 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 19:25 Palmar wrote:
I still think it's scummy that HF thinks I'm town.

Why?

I just do.

I feel like town HF would be absolutely jackhammering me right now.
Computer says mafia
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