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On December 13 2023 23:06 Holyflare wrote:
Not sure I understand why you're tripling down on calling marv mafia when he's going through your filter multiple times, trying to come up with arguments and engage with you and even then still giving the benefit of the doubt for other people to interject and correct him. Is that mafia M.O.?
HF is just trying to bury me throwing some shade in every single post I make mafia.
"Not sure why you do this", "not sure why you do that"
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Still waiting for you to explain the vigi claim in the night. I want your reasoning spelled out
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On December 13 2023 23:14 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2023 23:06 Holyflare wrote:
Not sure I understand why you're tripling down on calling marv mafia when he's going through your filter multiple times, trying to come up with arguments and engage with you and even then still giving the benefit of the doubt for other people to interject and correct him. Is that mafia M.O.? HF is just trying to bury me throwing some shade in every single post I make mafia. "Not sure why you do this", "not sure why you do that"
You can feel free to replace not sure with "I am sure" to get my actual perspective.
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On December 13 2023 23:16 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2023 23:14 sandroba wrote:On December 13 2023 23:06 Holyflare wrote:
Not sure I understand why you're tripling down on calling marv mafia when he's going through your filter multiple times, trying to come up with arguments and engage with you and even then still giving the benefit of the doubt for other people to interject and correct him. Is that mafia M.O.? HF is just trying to bury me throwing some shade in every single post I make mafia. "Not sure why you do this", "not sure why you do that" You can feel free to replace not sure with "I am sure" to get my actual perspective.
Giggle
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So apparently I'm allowed to do this...
Anyone who wants the mason channel with me?
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On December 12 2023 19:30 Holyflare wrote:
Actually think I may have caught him out on this with his follow up. The fact he defaulted to "I could be mafia and DP town" is probably an "oh shit" reaction to it even because that scenario doesn't fit with his point about rayn or what he was saying at all.
He says that rayn's point is good thinking because it shows that he's thinking about mafia partner interactions, but removing DP from being mafia in this equation (remember, rayn specifically only mentioned sandro and DP) doesn't make any sense.
I didn't default to that, you accused me of defending myself throw my comment of giving rayn townie points about his comment.
I said it was not a defense because in the scenario rayn described I could be mafia and dp town, should be obvious I wan't trying to defend myself when pointing that out.
You made the post yourself calling it a defense, no way you are confused and think I defaulted to that. But again you are just distorting it to bury me.
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Let me spell it out incredibly clearly. I think you're mafia, I think you have floundered trying to come up with town reads because there have been people that are posting good townie thoughts and you can't come up with concrete reasons to actually scum read them so you've just re-hashed the beginning of the game again and squirrelled away not trying to give any good perspective on current events or anything useful. You've boxed yourself out and aren't actually answering any questions because you don't want to give too many things away when you actually flip mafia.
Even now I'm asking you relevant questions because you're not doing things you should be if you are a townie and you're just throwing things back in my face in an attempt to throw a tantrum and derail progress because the fact is you can't coherently reply to the accusations or give proper answers because there is no good explanation for what you're doing.
You can very very easily give more insight into the end of day shenanigans and see the perspectives of people at the time and give us insight into who looks like mafia trying to afk or which of the people joining you and trying to save vivax were doing so in good faith or bad faith and then drawing conclusions from that but you instead just pick out things that aren't relevant like some trfel interaction with me (and again, you haven't acknowledged or given an insight into my reply to this accusation).
You're not doing things a townie would do in your situation. You're complaining, you're calling people that are clearly just trying to solve the game mafia and relying aren't actually trying to divert things in a meaningful way. Who are you trying to lynch right now? God knows. Just whining that marv is mafia and that I'm mafia and asking about some irrelevant vig claim.
##vote sandroba
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On December 13 2023 23:21 Palmar wrote:
So apparently I'm allowed to do this...
Anyone who wants the mason channel with me?
I do
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On December 13 2023 23:14 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2023 23:06 Holyflare wrote:
Not sure I understand why you're tripling down on calling marv mafia when he's going through your filter multiple times, trying to come up with arguments and engage with you and even then still giving the benefit of the doubt for other people to interject and correct him. Is that mafia M.O.? HF is just trying to bury me throwing some shade in every single post I make mafia. "Not sure why you do this", "not sure why you do that"
It’s a serious point though sand. I have some natural (townie 😉) doubt about my lynch, which I’ve expressed openly.
Are you really reading my posts last 24h and thinking they are mafia posts? I know I’m super biased here but I think it’s fairly obvious I am constructively trying to solve and think about the game.
I have like zero reason, as mafia, to throw any doubt on your lynch, as the rest of the game I’ve just been all over you. I’m considering it again today because I want to get it right.
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That's actually an interesting proposal sandro lol.
I'm a big fan of dmb dropping by with a post they've clearly put work into and eveyrone just straight up ignoring it.
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Think you should mason sandro
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yeah fuck it let's do it.
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On December 13 2023 23:22 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2023 23:21 Palmar wrote:
So apparently I'm allowed to do this...
Anyone who wants the mason channel with me? I do
I’m all for this.
I have nothing to say to Palmar that I can’t say here.
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On December 13 2023 23:24 Palmar wrote:
That's actually an interesting proposal sandro lol.
I'm a big fan of dmb dropping by with a post they've clearly put work into and eveyrone just straight up ignoring it.
Ignored = it looks fine
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It's really a weird role because of the transfer. Aside from lucking into masoning a blue with results or something it's like 99% of the time better to say stuff out here.
If it was always the same person, at least there could be some interrogation pattern or whatever, or you could gain some info from who got selected or whatever.
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On December 13 2023 23:22 Holyflare wrote:
Let me spell it out incredibly clearly. I think you're mafia, I think you have floundered trying to come up with town reads because there have been people that are posting good townie thoughts and you can't come up with concrete reasons to actually scum read them so you've just re-hashed the beginning of the game again and squirrelled away not trying to give any good perspective on current events or anything useful. You've boxed yourself out and aren't actually answering any questions because you don't want to give too many things away when you actually flip mafia.
Even now I'm asking you relevant questions because you're not doing things you should be if you are a townie and you're just throwing things back in my face in an attempt to throw a tantrum and derail progress because the fact is you can't coherently reply to the accusations or give proper answers because there is no good explanation for what you're doing.
You can very very easily give more insight into the end of day shenanigans and see the perspectives of people at the time and give us insight into who looks like mafia trying to afk or which of the people joining you and trying to save vivax were doing so in good faith or bad faith and then drawing conclusions from that but you instead just pick out things that aren't relevant like some trfel interaction with me (and again, you haven't acknowledged or given an insight into my reply to this accusation).
You're not doing things a townie would do in your situation. You're complaining, you're calling people that are clearly just trying to solve the game mafia and relying aren't actually trying to divert things in a meaningful way. Who are you trying to lynch right now? God knows. Just whining that marv is mafia and that I'm mafia and asking about some irrelevant vig claim.
##vote sandroba
I'm trying to solve the game, your alignment and marv's is in question for me.
I made it very clear I want to lynch Trfel.
I'm doing what I'm doing and not what you want me to do. You could very easily be doing a ton of other things as well, and so could all the other people in the thread.
Again you are not trying to figure out my alignment, you just want to bury me
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It feels like I have time today btw. I was wrong yesterday. Vivax was just anti-town, not mafia.
I'm going to try the thing where I dump my preconceived notions and look into people. That and seeing if I actually care about anything sandro has to say.
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On December 13 2023 23:28 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2023 23:22 Holyflare wrote:
Let me spell it out incredibly clearly. I think you're mafia, I think you have floundered trying to come up with town reads because there have been people that are posting good townie thoughts and you can't come up with concrete reasons to actually scum read them so you've just re-hashed the beginning of the game again and squirrelled away not trying to give any good perspective on current events or anything useful. You've boxed yourself out and aren't actually answering any questions because you don't want to give too many things away when you actually flip mafia.
Even now I'm asking you relevant questions because you're not doing things you should be if you are a townie and you're just throwing things back in my face in an attempt to throw a tantrum and derail progress because the fact is you can't coherently reply to the accusations or give proper answers because there is no good explanation for what you're doing.
You can very very easily give more insight into the end of day shenanigans and see the perspectives of people at the time and give us insight into who looks like mafia trying to afk or which of the people joining you and trying to save vivax were doing so in good faith or bad faith and then drawing conclusions from that but you instead just pick out things that aren't relevant like some trfel interaction with me (and again, you haven't acknowledged or given an insight into my reply to this accusation).
You're not doing things a townie would do in your situation. You're complaining, you're calling people that are clearly just trying to solve the game mafia and relying aren't actually trying to divert things in a meaningful way. Who are you trying to lynch right now? God knows. Just whining that marv is mafia and that I'm mafia and asking about some irrelevant vig claim.
##vote sandroba I'm trying to solve the game, your alignment and marv's is in question for me. I made it very clear I want to lynch Trfel. I'm doing what I'm doing and not what you want me to do. You could very easily be doing a ton of other things as well, and so could all the other people in the thread. Again you are not trying to figure out my alignment, you just want to bury me
Read my posts referring you in the last couple pages of my filter. Do you actually believe this?
I know hats directed at Hf but I assume it’s towards me as well.
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On December 13 2023 23:28 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2023 23:22 Holyflare wrote:
Let me spell it out incredibly clearly. I think you're mafia, I think you have floundered trying to come up with town reads because there have been people that are posting good townie thoughts and you can't come up with concrete reasons to actually scum read them so you've just re-hashed the beginning of the game again and squirrelled away not trying to give any good perspective on current events or anything useful. You've boxed yourself out and aren't actually answering any questions because you don't want to give too many things away when you actually flip mafia.
Even now I'm asking you relevant questions because you're not doing things you should be if you are a townie and you're just throwing things back in my face in an attempt to throw a tantrum and derail progress because the fact is you can't coherently reply to the accusations or give proper answers because there is no good explanation for what you're doing.
You can very very easily give more insight into the end of day shenanigans and see the perspectives of people at the time and give us insight into who looks like mafia trying to afk or which of the people joining you and trying to save vivax were doing so in good faith or bad faith and then drawing conclusions from that but you instead just pick out things that aren't relevant like some trfel interaction with me (and again, you haven't acknowledged or given an insight into my reply to this accusation).
You're not doing things a townie would do in your situation. You're complaining, you're calling people that are clearly just trying to solve the game mafia and relying aren't actually trying to divert things in a meaningful way. Who are you trying to lynch right now? God knows. Just whining that marv is mafia and that I'm mafia and asking about some irrelevant vig claim.
##vote sandroba I'm trying to solve the game, your alignment and marv's is in question for me. I made it very clear I want to lynch Trfel. I'm doing what I'm doing and not what you want me to do. You could very easily be doing a ton of other things as well, and so could all the other people in the thread. Again you are not trying to figure out my alignment, you just want to bury me
If you want to expose that I'm mafia, you can begin by answering my questions or actually interacting with what I replied about your trfel/hf interaction accusation. You're not doing this. So do it and quit talking about how I'm burying you. Being buried is self-inflicted.
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Ffs the amount of time I have said stuff like ‘hat’ instead of ‘that’ this game and stuff is nuts. The t button fucking hates me.
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