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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 10 2023 10:56 GMT
#121
Why aren’t you just outright omgusing DP here Trfel?

I know that’s what I’d be doing in your spot
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 10 2023 11:01 GMT
#122
On December 10 2023 19:19 marvellosity wrote:
Don’t understand anyone who thinks Trfel is suspicious for calling out a pretty terrible first post from sandro tbh


That's funny, I feel pretty much the exact opposite.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 10 2023 11:03 GMT
#123
On December 10 2023 19:56 marvellosity wrote:
Why aren’t you just outright omgusing DP here Trfel?

I know that’s what I’d be doing in your spot
Thought about it, but in the end I don't have much of a read on him. I look forward to getting to interact with him a bit, I think his posts have given a reasonable picture of how he is approaching the game and I am interested to see how that develops.
On December 10 2023 19:52 marvellosity wrote:
Jeez, so srs
I did attempt to engage in light conversation too, but no one seemed interested.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 10 2023 11:04 GMT
#124
On December 10 2023 20:01 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2023 19:19 marvellosity wrote:
Don’t understand anyone who thinks Trfel is suspicious for calling out a pretty terrible first post from sandro tbh


That's funny, I feel pretty much the exact opposite.
This is particularly interesting, didn't you literally call Sandroba's first post "meh"?
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 10 2023 11:06 GMT
#125
On December 10 2023 20:04 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2023 20:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 10 2023 19:19 marvellosity wrote:
Don’t understand anyone who thinks Trfel is suspicious for calling out a pretty terrible first post from sandro tbh


That's funny, I feel pretty much the exact opposite.
This is particularly interesting, didn't you literally call Sandroba's first post "meh"?


I am saying I don't understand how anyone cannot find you suspicious for your post calling out sandro.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 10 2023 11:09 GMT
#126
On December 10 2023 20:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2023 20:04 Trfel wrote:
On December 10 2023 20:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 10 2023 19:19 marvellosity wrote:
Don’t understand anyone who thinks Trfel is suspicious for calling out a pretty terrible first post from sandro tbh


That's funny, I feel pretty much the exact opposite.
This is particularly interesting, didn't you literally call Sandroba's first post "meh"?


I am saying I don't understand how anyone cannot find you suspicious for your post calling out sandro.

🙄
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 10 2023 11:12 GMT
#127
On December 10 2023 20:03 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2023 19:56 marvellosity wrote:
Why aren’t you just outright omgusing DP here Trfel?

I know that’s what I’d be doing in your spot
Thought about it, but in the end I don't have much of a read on him. I look forward to getting to interact with him a bit, I think his posts have given a reasonable picture of how he is approaching the game and I am interested to see how that develops.
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2023 19:52 marvellosity wrote:
Jeez, so srs
I did attempt to engage in light conversation too, but no one seemed interested.

You think it’s reasonable he’s calling you out for calling out sandro?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 10 2023 11:13 GMT
#128
If I came In the the thread first and had called out sandro’s post, I would think it was insane DP was calling me on it.

Just sayin.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 10 2023 11:14 GMT
#129
On December 10 2023 19:47 Trfel wrote:

I'm not expecting some huge commitment or 100% certain reads or anything like that. But I think it's reasonable to expect something of substance. Sandroba failed to provide that. I understand people wanting to share thoughts, even if they aren't sure about the conclusions, but at the same time it's a game of mafia where the conclusions about people's alignments is ultimately what matters. My point about sandroba isn't that he didn't have any strong conclusions, it's the amount of thoughts he shared without any conclusions whatsoever and the way that he seemingly undermined any conclusion he could have made with doubt and take-backsies or whatever you want to call it. I don't think that everything needs to progress the game necessarily, or have a distinct purpose, it's that sandroba's post is the type of post that should have a purpose but just doesn't.


What kind of substance are you expecting? he literally posted the 10th post of the game?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 10 2023 11:15 GMT
#130
On December 10 2023 20:09 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2023 20:06 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 10 2023 20:04 Trfel wrote:
On December 10 2023 20:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 10 2023 19:19 marvellosity wrote:
Don’t understand anyone who thinks Trfel is suspicious for calling out a pretty terrible first post from sandro tbh


That's funny, I feel pretty much the exact opposite.
This is particularly interesting, didn't you literally call Sandroba's first post "meh"?


I am saying I don't understand how anyone cannot find you suspicious for your post calling out sandro.

🙄


Lol why are we always like this hahaha.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 10 2023 11:18 GMT
#131
On December 10 2023 20:13 marvellosity wrote:
If I came In the the thread first and had called out sandro’s post, I would think it was insane DP was calling me on it.

Just sayin.
I think DarthPunk is focusing more on the way I brought up suspicion about sandroba's post rather than just that I did it, but I could be wrong?
On December 10 2023 20:14 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2023 19:47 Trfel wrote:

I'm not expecting some huge commitment or 100% certain reads or anything like that. But I think it's reasonable to expect something of substance. Sandroba failed to provide that. I understand people wanting to share thoughts, even if they aren't sure about the conclusions, but at the same time it's a game of mafia where the conclusions about people's alignments is ultimately what matters. My point about sandroba isn't that he didn't have any strong conclusions, it's the amount of thoughts he shared without any conclusions whatsoever and the way that he seemingly undermined any conclusion he could have made with doubt and take-backsies or whatever you want to call it. I don't think that everything needs to progress the game necessarily, or have a distinct purpose, it's that sandroba's post is the type of post that should have a purpose but just doesn't.


What kind of substance are you expecting? he literally posted the 10th post of the game?
If you go back to that quote I made with the red and take out the stuff in red then it would have had substantial conclusions.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 10 2023 11:21 GMT
#132
On December 10 2023 20:18 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2023 20:13 marvellosity wrote:
If I came In the the thread first and had called out sandro’s post, I would think it was insane DP was calling me on it.

Just sayin.
I think DarthPunk is focusing more on the way I brought up suspicion about sandroba's post rather than just that I did it, but I could be wrong?
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2023 20:14 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 10 2023 19:47 Trfel wrote:

I'm not expecting some huge commitment or 100% certain reads or anything like that. But I think it's reasonable to expect something of substance. Sandroba failed to provide that. I understand people wanting to share thoughts, even if they aren't sure about the conclusions, but at the same time it's a game of mafia where the conclusions about people's alignments is ultimately what matters. My point about sandroba isn't that he didn't have any strong conclusions, it's the amount of thoughts he shared without any conclusions whatsoever and the way that he seemingly undermined any conclusion he could have made with doubt and take-backsies or whatever you want to call it. I don't think that everything needs to progress the game necessarily, or have a distinct purpose, it's that sandroba's post is the type of post that should have a purpose but just doesn't.


What kind of substance are you expecting? he literally posted the 10th post of the game?
If you go back to that quote I made with the red and take out the stuff in red then it would have had substantial conclusions.

Yes, he is, but I don’t understand why you’d legitimise the attack on what, I would assume, would be your legit read on sandro’s post.

Now I don’t like any of you :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 10 2023 11:22 GMT
#133
This might just be a reflection on just how poor I thought sandro’s opening post was, though.

Maybe.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 10 2023 11:24 GMT
#134
On December 10 2023 20:18 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2023 20:13 marvellosity wrote:
If I came In the the thread first and had called out sandro’s post, I would think it was insane DP was calling me on it.

Just sayin.
I think DarthPunk is focusing more on the way I brought up suspicion about sandroba's post rather than just that I did it, but I could be wrong?
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2023 20:14 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 10 2023 19:47 Trfel wrote:

I'm not expecting some huge commitment or 100% certain reads or anything like that. But I think it's reasonable to expect something of substance. Sandroba failed to provide that. I understand people wanting to share thoughts, even if they aren't sure about the conclusions, but at the same time it's a game of mafia where the conclusions about people's alignments is ultimately what matters. My point about sandroba isn't that he didn't have any strong conclusions, it's the amount of thoughts he shared without any conclusions whatsoever and the way that he seemingly undermined any conclusion he could have made with doubt and take-backsies or whatever you want to call it. I don't think that everything needs to progress the game necessarily, or have a distinct purpose, it's that sandroba's post is the type of post that should have a purpose but just doesn't.


What kind of substance are you expecting? he literally posted the 10th post of the game?
If you go back to that quote I made with the red and take out the stuff in red then it would have had substantial conclusions.


How confident would you say you were of sandroba's alignment when you wrote that post?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 10 2023 11:25 GMT
#135
On December 10 2023 20:22 marvellosity wrote:
This might just be a reflection on just how poor I thought sandro’s opening post was, though.

Maybe.


I don't think it was as bad as you seem to FWIW.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 10 2023 11:29 GMT
#136
On December 10 2023 20:21 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2023 20:18 Trfel wrote:
On December 10 2023 20:13 marvellosity wrote:
If I came In the the thread first and had called out sandro’s post, I would think it was insane DP was calling me on it.

Just sayin.
I think DarthPunk is focusing more on the way I brought up suspicion about sandroba's post rather than just that I did it, but I could be wrong?
On December 10 2023 20:14 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 10 2023 19:47 Trfel wrote:

I'm not expecting some huge commitment or 100% certain reads or anything like that. But I think it's reasonable to expect something of substance. Sandroba failed to provide that. I understand people wanting to share thoughts, even if they aren't sure about the conclusions, but at the same time it's a game of mafia where the conclusions about people's alignments is ultimately what matters. My point about sandroba isn't that he didn't have any strong conclusions, it's the amount of thoughts he shared without any conclusions whatsoever and the way that he seemingly undermined any conclusion he could have made with doubt and take-backsies or whatever you want to call it. I don't think that everything needs to progress the game necessarily, or have a distinct purpose, it's that sandroba's post is the type of post that should have a purpose but just doesn't.


What kind of substance are you expecting? he literally posted the 10th post of the game?
If you go back to that quote I made with the red and take out the stuff in red then it would have had substantial conclusions.

Yes, he is, but I don’t understand why you’d legitimise the attack on what, I would assume, would be your legit read on sandro’s post.

Now I don’t like any of you :/
I mean I don't like that DarthPunk is disagreeing with me, I don't know if that makes him mafia though. Townies disagree about things fairly often. I can still stand by my view of sandroba and not be sure about DarthPunk, no?
On December 10 2023 20:24 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2023 20:18 Trfel wrote:
On December 10 2023 20:13 marvellosity wrote:
If I came In the the thread first and had called out sandro’s post, I would think it was insane DP was calling me on it.

Just sayin.
I think DarthPunk is focusing more on the way I brought up suspicion about sandroba's post rather than just that I did it, but I could be wrong?
On December 10 2023 20:14 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 10 2023 19:47 Trfel wrote:

I'm not expecting some huge commitment or 100% certain reads or anything like that. But I think it's reasonable to expect something of substance. Sandroba failed to provide that. I understand people wanting to share thoughts, even if they aren't sure about the conclusions, but at the same time it's a game of mafia where the conclusions about people's alignments is ultimately what matters. My point about sandroba isn't that he didn't have any strong conclusions, it's the amount of thoughts he shared without any conclusions whatsoever and the way that he seemingly undermined any conclusion he could have made with doubt and take-backsies or whatever you want to call it. I don't think that everything needs to progress the game necessarily, or have a distinct purpose, it's that sandroba's post is the type of post that should have a purpose but just doesn't.


What kind of substance are you expecting? he literally posted the 10th post of the game?
If you go back to that quote I made with the red and take out the stuff in red then it would have had substantial conclusions.


How confident would you say you were of sandroba's alignment when you wrote that post?
Of sandroba's alignment? Not very. His opening post felt very suspicious, but it's just one post. That could just be the way he thinks and communicates his thoughts. I'm very interested to see how he follows it up.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 10 2023 11:29 GMT
#137
I dunno. I have a lot of respect for sandro, and time off or nay, I don’t think that’s what I expect from him.

I know I don’t like Trfel’s responses either though, so I’m looking forward to the rest of the day 🍿
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 10 2023 11:30 GMT
#138
On December 10 2023 20:22 marvellosity wrote:
This might just be a reflection on just how poor I thought sandro’s opening post was, though.

Maybe.
To be honest I was starting to worry I was going insane when no one else thought sandroba's post was worth discussing.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 10 2023 11:30 GMT
#139
On December 10 2023 20:24 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2023 20:18 Trfel wrote:
On December 10 2023 20:13 marvellosity wrote:
If I came In the the thread first and had called out sandro’s post, I would think it was insane DP was calling me on it.

Just sayin.
I think DarthPunk is focusing more on the way I brought up suspicion about sandroba's post rather than just that I did it, but I could be wrong?
On December 10 2023 20:14 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 10 2023 19:47 Trfel wrote:

I'm not expecting some huge commitment or 100% certain reads or anything like that. But I think it's reasonable to expect something of substance. Sandroba failed to provide that. I understand people wanting to share thoughts, even if they aren't sure about the conclusions, but at the same time it's a game of mafia where the conclusions about people's alignments is ultimately what matters. My point about sandroba isn't that he didn't have any strong conclusions, it's the amount of thoughts he shared without any conclusions whatsoever and the way that he seemingly undermined any conclusion he could have made with doubt and take-backsies or whatever you want to call it. I don't think that everything needs to progress the game necessarily, or have a distinct purpose, it's that sandroba's post is the type of post that should have a purpose but just doesn't.


What kind of substance are you expecting? he literally posted the 10th post of the game?
If you go back to that quote I made with the red and take out the stuff in red then it would have had substantial conclusions.


How confident would you say you were of sandroba's alignment when you wrote that post?


Can you respond to this please.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 10 2023 11:31 GMT
#140
On December 10 2023 20:30 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2023 20:24 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 10 2023 20:18 Trfel wrote:
On December 10 2023 20:13 marvellosity wrote:
If I came In the the thread first and had called out sandro’s post, I would think it was insane DP was calling me on it.

Just sayin.
I think DarthPunk is focusing more on the way I brought up suspicion about sandroba's post rather than just that I did it, but I could be wrong?
On December 10 2023 20:14 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 10 2023 19:47 Trfel wrote:

I'm not expecting some huge commitment or 100% certain reads or anything like that. But I think it's reasonable to expect something of substance. Sandroba failed to provide that. I understand people wanting to share thoughts, even if they aren't sure about the conclusions, but at the same time it's a game of mafia where the conclusions about people's alignments is ultimately what matters. My point about sandroba isn't that he didn't have any strong conclusions, it's the amount of thoughts he shared without any conclusions whatsoever and the way that he seemingly undermined any conclusion he could have made with doubt and take-backsies or whatever you want to call it. I don't think that everything needs to progress the game necessarily, or have a distinct purpose, it's that sandroba's post is the type of post that should have a purpose but just doesn't.


What kind of substance are you expecting? he literally posted the 10th post of the game?
If you go back to that quote I made with the red and take out the stuff in red then it would have had substantial conclusions.


How confident would you say you were of sandroba's alignment when you wrote that post?


Can you respond to this please.
I thought I did?
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