EPTOn December 12 2023 21:12 marvellosity wrote:
I have really enjoyed this, though
I have really enjoyed this, though
I’m sure. 😛
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DarthPunk
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I’m sure. 😛 | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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I have honestly no idea how marv thinks HF is town at this point of the game. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 11 2023 12:36 sandroba wrote: I feel like this post sounds very unnatural, and also has some confusion about things that were already clarified in the thread at the point this post was made. The 'Posting within what I expected' part was asked by Trfel and I did clarify what I meant. 'Self-demeaning tone about his performance' is something very obvious if you read the post if you read the post I was talking about which he mentions his chances of finding mafia. The reasoning to me sound extremely contrieved, trying to blend in with thread sentiment while appearing to be putting in an effort. I don't like this post at all. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 11 2023 12:48 sandroba wrote: Ah, also palmar likely town now and this.. I don't believe sandroba doesn't know Palmar is voting for Vivax already at this point. This post however gives the illusion of that. | ||
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Holyflare
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On December 12 2023 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have honestly no idea how marv thinks HF is town at this point of the game. Because he interacts with me and wants to know my thought process instead of trying to find out if an obscure timestamp error occurred | ||
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marvellosity
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On December 12 2023 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have honestly no idea how marv thinks HF is town at this point of the game. Why is he mafia though, then? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Especially for someone who thinks Vivax is mafia because Vivax quoted posts in wrong order, HF should be like double mafia. | ||
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Holyflare
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marvellosity
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Either Hf is mafia and is ecstatic about how the game is going and therefore not pushing anything very hard, or maybe he’s town and just bumbling along like i was trying to do before people kept telling me I was mafia. | ||
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Holyflare
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marvellosity
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On December 12 2023 23:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: So i see both Trfel and sandroba have entered the thread after i left, both of them are calling Vivax mafia because Vivax is not reading the thread in correct order, but neither of them recognizes the fact that Holyflare did the exact same thing (or rather voted for someone, said he didn't didn't read up to point of a certain post before voting, but still had read posts after that point). Especially for someone who thinks Vivax is mafia because Vivax quoted posts in wrong order, HF should be like double mafia. Not good enough. | ||
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Holyflare
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marvellosity
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But your argument about this timestamps thing has been in the thread a while and you discussed it over a few posts. There are 9 townies in this game and none of them have ridden with the argument. That means even if you are right, it’s not the argument that is making you right. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 12 2023 23:02 marvellosity wrote: Like what I remember of Hf is that he makes big, long, convincing cases and towns find it really hard to argue with him over the long haul. He pushes the mafia agenda and it’s really hard to stop because he’s convincing. Either Hf is mafia and is ecstatic about how the game is going and therefore not pushing anything very hard, or maybe he’s town and just bumbling along like i was trying to do before people kept telling me I was mafia. I am gonna leave it for now and at least catch up for the rest of D1. But still, he voted for me. The thread was something like 5 pages long. I know people miss posts, people misread things. But for me i find it very hard to believe HF "missed" something he surely had read by his own words (he had read further into the thread), and it's not even a misread by any chance. It was straight out "you didn't pose a question to sandroba". Again, emphasis on at that time from what he had read, he voted for me! HF is busy, i get it, everyone is busy because we're getting old and have other stuff in life too. But it's not a question being busy here, because if HF is mafia he is still busy and won't write big cases (of trash) and then argue his way out of it. Anyways the point is, if both Trfel and sandroba voted for Vivax based on quoting some stuff in wrong order, i find it suspicious they don't recognize what i said about HF during D1 -- or even care to investigate. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On December 12 2023 23:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am gonna leave it for now and at least catch up for the rest of D1. But still, he voted for me. The thread was something like 5 pages long. I know people miss posts, people misread things. But for me i find it very hard to believe HF "missed" something he surely had read by his own words (he had read further into the thread), and it's not even a misread by any chance. It was straight out "you didn't pose a question to sandroba". Again, emphasis on at that time from what he had read, he voted for me! HF is busy, i get it, everyone is busy because we're getting old and have other stuff in life too. But it's not a question being busy here, because if HF is mafia he is still busy and won't write big cases (of trash) and then argue his way out of it. Anyways the point is, if both Trfel and sandroba voted for Vivax based on quoting some stuff in wrong order, i find it suspicious they don't recognize what i said about HF during D1 -- or even care to investigate. It’s quite a bold move to drop a vote on you like that right? If it’s done on false pretences like you are claiming, what’s the goal? As Hf can’t possibly gain any traction with it (and indeed didn’t ) If sandro is mafia then sandro is just looking for a vote and what you’re talking about makes it more likely sandro (and maybe Trfel) are mafia because they need to save sandro’s skin and probably going for Hf wasn’t the way to do that (and that tracks regardless of HF’s alignment) | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 12 2023 23:21 marvellosity wrote: It’s quite a bold move to drop a vote on you like that right? If it’s done on false pretences like you are claiming, what’s the goal? As Hf can’t possibly gain any traction with it (and indeed didn’t ) If sandro is mafia then sandro is just looking for a vote and what you’re talking about makes it more likely sandro (and maybe Trfel) are mafia because they need to save sandro’s skin and probably going for Hf wasn’t the way to do that (and that tracks regardless of HF’s alignment) You realize HF has done that in many games before? It's mostly not to get me lynched, but to throw me off my game, as people won't follow me anyways. I mean like it's 100% clear he should have seen my post, he claims he didn't (for one reason or another), and absolutely noone even sees that aside from me.... | ||
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marvellosity
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On December 11 2023 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: because he is trying to say (1) palmar made a post about sandroba, which he considers bussing. (2) because of that, he votes for me, because i think palmar is town (for whatever reason) (3) after catching up he is now suspicious of vivax, who shares the whole sentiment of him thinking palmar is bussing sandroba, which doesnt make any sense. and even if he changed his mind, then (2) should not apply because we all 4 cannot be mafia... Is this the thrust of your argument rayn? If there’s more to it, can you concisely add to it here? | ||
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marvellosity
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Tbh when I was defending myself, I knew I had questioned Trfel about Vivax early and I went looking for it, but I still missed it in my filter like 3 times before I found it. These things happen | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 12 2023 23:28 marvellosity wrote: Is this the thrust of your argument rayn? If there’s more to it, can you concisely add to it here? After that HF said he hadn't read the whole thread so what i said there is basically moot, aside from the fact that before he voted he had read until Palmar's first post in the game. However, we continue the discussion, and we come to the point where i tell him something i called sandroba out. He responds with this: "At the time I read (this morning) you had not called sandro out. When I voted, you barely called sandro out and you came up with some hipster reason that you didn't even disclose." I told him that: "Can you really not read between the lines that much, that when i was playing in the morning, the only question i posed to anyone is someone i might find some suspicious about?" (that was towards sandroba) he responded with: " tbh the last time I read rayn hadn't actually defended sandro or questioned him at that point" Now me posing a question to sandroba happened before Palmar had posted anything in this game at all. So it's simply impossible HF hasn't read my question, if he actually read whatever he said he read before voting. I would not even care about this that much, but the fact that he voted(!!!), should imply he actually finds me suspicious for whatever reason, yet he hasn't even apparently read my almost only serious post in the game.. | ||
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