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sandroba
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On December 19 2023 17:54 Palmar wrote: We can't no lynch. Mafia can just plop down 1 vote on the deadline and win the game. Are you saying if there is 4 no lynch votes and 2 votes on someone, someone gets lynched? I don't think that's how it works. | ||
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On December 19 2023 23:04 sandroba wrote: The thing about DMB is that she is overplaying the crazy act. Every time suspicion on her begins to climb, she pops in, starts acting crazy, misunderstanding posts, calling everyone mafia with no follow up, she is just all over the place. Some of the time I must admit it just looks like a bad townie. But looking at it over the spam of the game I think it's very likely this is just an act, she realized at some point that this works and is just repeating this over and over. What crazy act? I tried to stop the HF lynch. I said rather kill me then HF. The hell should I do that as scum. Yes I was kinda wrong with his alignment but at least I knew he was not scum. And also yes Palmar looking kinda Town right now, but at this point we are not allowed to make another misslynch. Help me to find the real scum instead of voting me because you all think I have a bad Town game. Did anybody read my older games from those who play the first time with me? You will find all games I ever played here on TL. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On December 20 2023 00:58 die_meatbaby wrote: What crazy act? I tried to stop the HF lynch. I said rather kill me then HF. The hell should I do that as scum. Yes I was kinda wrong with his alignment but at least I knew he was not scum. And also yes Palmar looking kinda Town right now, but at this point we are not allowed to make another misslynch. Help me to find the real scum instead of voting me because you all think I have a bad Town game. Did anybody read my older games from those who play the first time with me? You will find all games I ever played here on TL. How did you know he was not scum? You've been calling people scum randomly, how could you be so sure on HF? Claiming kill me because HF is blue, or even believing HF blue claim is crazy as town as well. It looks like either yourself or some other mafia told you to act crazy / dumb and people would spare you. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
You are a lot less all over that place in that game, it's very different from this one. This HF thing alone is enough for me to call an act, compared to the other reads you have this game this one is supremely outlandish. On the game I posted you were trying to form a concise view of who is mafia and who isn't and trying to get that across. Here you are all over the place not even trying to solve the game. Just acting as paranoid as you can, misinterpreting very straight forward posts, tunnelling palmar then not really going after him. It all screams like Chez or whoever, or you yourself came up with the idea to just go crazy in the thread. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
I believe that die_meatbaby is mafia due to the cognitive dissonance in her posts. As in, I cannot put together a town mindset that die_meatbaby's play is coming from that makes sense. For example, if someone says "I want to lynch person A" but their actions do not indicate that they think player A is mafia or that they actually care about lynching player A, that would be an example of the cognitive dissonance I am referring to. Cognitive dissonance 1: Palmar is mafia, but die_meatbaby doesn't take any actions towards lynching Palmar + Show Spoiler + I thought Holyflare made a post about this but I can't seem to find it. It must have been someone else. Die_meatbaby has been scumreading Palmar the whole game, it's been quite the anti-Palmar crusade. However, she hasn't actually made any efforts to trying to lynch Palmar. She didn't even vote for Palmar until late day 3! Sure, die_meatbaby was scumreading Palmar night 1, and seemed pretty upset about it night 2. But when it actually comes down to it, die_meatbaby seems exceptionally content to vote for people other than Palmar, while Palmar is by far her biggest scumread. This doesn't match the mindset of someone who has been dead set on lynching Palmar this whole game. If you doubt this, read her filter yourself, or check the vote thread. When it's time to vote, die_meatbaby doesn't seem to care if Palmar lives or dies. Cognitive dissonance 2: Suspicious of everyone, not inquisitive/not trying to figure things out + Show Spoiler + This has become more clear towards the later portions of the game. Look at this series of posts after the day 3 lynch: On December 18 2023 22:04 die_meatbaby wrote: So, Palmar is mafia. Sandroba was saved by Chezinu when he voted for Vivax, which means sandroba is mafia, right? But Trfel is also maybe mafia! But there are only two members left alive for mafia?Trfel just waiting on which vote rayn was going and then voting on HF instead of Palmar... and I am more suspicious then this???? Maybe I am really wrong with Palmar and its Sandro and Trfel or Sandro and Palmar. How the fuck do I end up as scum in this bullshit scenario. I voted for Palmar. I was against HF lynch. I chanced my vote on Vivax as soon it was clear that he was town and we weren't anoth Townies at that lynch to chance it. Chez was suspicious for me just not my main scum reason and as I already said he is hard to read at least for me. Chez voting an 1 1/2 before lynch and not beeing here till lynch of Vivax is fucking suspicious. In America it's not fucking 4 am tell me that chez just safed you sandro. Because if Vivax didn't get lynched you would and he saved you!!! Tell me I am fucking right with this!! If you are scum just give up. Letting the newbie alive because it's always save to have somebody you can easy lynch. I am just a another version of VE. Always mafia lets VE alive. In every game VE was misslynch from Town (if he was Town) and you guys using me as your next misslynch for Town just because newbie looks scummy. "she writes different" She compares old games with the actual play still using here" She is not playing like the other that looks scummy". No you fucking with the wrong Town here. I am not VE and will do everything what this Town needs and if nobody sees this how chez just safed you at the vivax lynch I am obviously playing with the wrong people here. You all telling me how high you meta is and the experience you guys have over the last decade... yes we talking about a fucking decade and you don't see that. On December 18 2023 22:21 die_meatbaby wrote: Fuck off with this Palmar tunnel I have. I don't care who is mafia with you but you fucking are. Chez didn't vote on you at first and second lynch. It was so obvious that we couldn't believe it. But now I see the light at the end of my tunnel and this light is you. I can't step on the gas pedal, because the traffic light is so red... On December 18 2023 22:47 die_meatbaby wrote: Suddenly posting about raynpelikoneet as well. Is she suspicious of him also? That makes four mafia in a two player game.I already said lets fucking vote this ego busted dickhead and the people here voting still on HF Rayn isn't here the hole day votes on HF instead of Palmar and Trfel waiting to see what rayn is going to do and votes then also on HF. Why not TRFEL and Rayn or Trfel and you or Trfel and Palmar. Why was he waiting? He is sad about HF and votes on him. What did he expect? Why didn't the people vote on Palmar here ot least on me as I said lynch rather me then HF. Yes I was also wrong but I knew he was at least not scum. On December 18 2023 23:38 die_meatbaby wrote: And here goes marvellosity and Alakaslam too.The actuall fuck is goeing on here. I am at the point were i am just pissed on mafia for fooling us so hard. You got almost lynched 2 times at the first two lynches and chez saved you all two lynches even at the second one he rather voted on Trefel then on you. It is so obvious that i can´t believe it myself that that could actually be true. Rayn coming, telling in 2 or 3 sentences why he rather vote on HF than on me or Palmar. Trefel beeing around and just waiting with his vote what was the main reason why HF was lynched because he could have let it on me or on Palmar and then beeing sad about HF lynch. WTF is this here. MARV not even thinking a bit of Palmar beeing scum And Slam starts posting like chez and I don´t understand what he wants to say with his strange posts The hell i am suspicious of to many people here right now Please understand, it's not scummy to be suspicious of lots of people. The suspicious thing is the lack of desire to figure out which suspicious people are actually mafia and which are town. Die_meatbaby is very content to just have everyone as suspicious, which is extremely mafia motivated and shows no desire to solve the game. On December 18 2023 23:44 die_meatbaby wrote: I fucking tell you why. Lynch Nr. 1 Most people are on Vivax second most voted train Sandro. Chez voted 1 hour before lynch on Vivax. At this point he should aready know that Vivax will get emtional now and he has good scum player should also know that maybe the vote train will go on sandro, but sadly not anoth town people here at that moment to save Vivax, Second lynch almost everbody on chez at the end of the timer but few hours before there was voting train on chez or on sandro and chez still rather voting on Trfel then on Sandro why should he do that. She's just coming up with whatever reason to be suspicious of anyone that she can, here it relies on me being town. This all makes no sense from a town perspective. Cognitive dissonance 3: lots of emotional energy, little/no scumhunting energy + Show Spoiler + Die_meatbaby is very angry and emotionally invested. But you don't see that investment in actual scumhunting. If someone is angry, if they are spending a lot of energy in the thread, it's because they care about the game, and thus presumably want to find mafia and win. But you don't see die_meatbaby trying to figure out people's alignments on anywhere NEAR the same magnitude as she is emotionally invested. Lots of the quotes above support this, or you can read her filter. She finds lots of things suspicious but doesn't seem to care to figure out who is actually mafia and who isn't. Then there are smaller things. For example, when Holyflare asks die_meatbaby who is mafia with Palmar, she answers: On December 18 2023 00:35 die_meatbaby wrote: There a people NOW who are thinking of him as scum, but not after the first lynch. I was alone with my thoughts there. I never votet on Palmar because it would just be a useless vote. First vote i need to safe vivax. (altough we missed one vote to safe him) Second 10 votes on chez... 1 vote on Palmar will chance the lynch... yeah.. I most likley think it would be Trfel or you! On December 18 2023 04:12 die_meatbaby wrote: But four hours later the second post comes. Which one is it? If Holyflare is one of the most likely candidates for being the remaining mafia member, why would she say he is blue and want herself lynched instead? And if she thinks Holyflare is blue, how would have have a chance of being mafia? This is not the view of someone who is looking at the game and actually trying to figure out people's alignments.rather lynch me than HF. Better do lose a normal Town then losing a blue one! I will die for Town and i will not care but i will not be with a lynch our hope for a vigi or something else what could help. I'm convinced that die_meatbaby is mafia. If you are not, please talk to me and help me to understand why, since it is very important that town is in agreement this phase. | ||
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On December 20 2023 01:07 sandroba wrote: How did you know he was not scum? You've been calling people scum randomly, how could you be so sure on HF? Claiming kill me because HF is blue, or even believing HF blue claim is crazy as town as well. It looks like either yourself or some other mafia told you to act crazy / dumb and people would spare you. I explained why I called people scum. Look at my Filter I compared palmar with his old scumplays. I explained why Trfel is scummy for me. I explained why I called people scum here. I just use other methods and maybe I see the game in other eyes because it's my 4th game and I am already bored as well rolling Town all the time. And maybe it was stupid do think HF is blue but as scum I would killed him in the night??? Why would he be alive. Also I will not lynch my bf on the first day if I know he is Town. This misslynch from Vivax breaks my heart because he was happy and excited to play with Palmar again. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On December 20 2023 01:24 die_meatbaby wrote: I explained why I called people scum. Look at my Filter I compared palmar with his old scumplays. I explained why Trfel is scummy for me. I explained why I called people scum here. I just use other methods and maybe I see the game in other eyes because it's my 4th game and I am already bored as well rolling Town all the time. And maybe it was stupid do think HF is blue but as scum I would killed him in the night??? Why would he be alive. Also I will not lynch my bf on the first day if I know he is Town. This misslynch from Vivax breaks my heart because he was happy and excited to play with Palmar again. You don't seem bored at points in the thread where people are discussing you for a lynch. "And maybe it was stupid do think HF is blue but as scum I would killed him in the night???" I don't buy that you think this is a good explanation, surely if you were town you would know that as scum you could be just lying about thinking he is blue? Again this is pretending like you are dumb. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
On December 20 2023 01:22 Trfel wrote: die_meatbaby I believe that die_meatbaby is mafia due to the cognitive dissonance in her posts. As in, I cannot put together a town mindset that die_meatbaby's play is coming from that makes sense. For example, if someone says "I want to lynch person A" but their actions do not indicate that they think player A is mafia or that they actually care about lynching player A, that would be an example of the cognitive dissonance I am referring to. Cognitive dissonance 1: Palmar is mafia, but die_meatbaby doesn't take any actions towards lynching Palmar + Show Spoiler + I thought Holyflare made a post about this but I can't seem to find it. It must have been someone else. Die_meatbaby has been scumreading Palmar the whole game, it's been quite the anti-Palmar crusade. However, she hasn't actually made any efforts to trying to lynch Palmar. She didn't even vote for Palmar until late day 3! Sure, die_meatbaby was scumreading Palmar night 1, and seemed pretty upset about it night 2. But when it actually comes down to it, die_meatbaby seems exceptionally content to vote for people other than Palmar, while Palmar is by far her biggest scumread. This doesn't match the mindset of someone who has been dead set on lynching Palmar this whole game. If you doubt this, read her filter yourself, or check the vote thread. When it's time to vote, die_meatbaby doesn't seem to care if Palmar lives or dies. Cognitive dissonance 2: Suspicious of everyone, not inquisitive/not trying to figure things out + Show Spoiler + This has become more clear towards the later portions of the game. Look at this series of posts after the day 3 lynch: On December 18 2023 22:04 die_meatbaby wrote: So, Palmar is mafia. Sandroba was saved by Chezinu when he voted for Vivax, which means sandroba is mafia, right? But Trfel is also maybe mafia! But there are only two members left alive for mafia?Trfel just waiting on which vote rayn was going and then voting on HF instead of Palmar... and I am more suspicious then this???? Maybe I am really wrong with Palmar and its Sandro and Trfel or Sandro and Palmar. How the fuck do I end up as scum in this bullshit scenario. I voted for Palmar. I was against HF lynch. I chanced my vote on Vivax as soon it was clear that he was town and we weren't anoth Townies at that lynch to chance it. Chez was suspicious for me just not my main scum reason and as I already said he is hard to read at least for me. Chez voting an 1 1/2 before lynch and not beeing here till lynch of Vivax is fucking suspicious. In America it's not fucking 4 am tell me that chez just safed you sandro. Because if Vivax didn't get lynched you would and he saved you!!! Tell me I am fucking right with this!! If you are scum just give up. Letting the newbie alive because it's always save to have somebody you can easy lynch. I am just a another version of VE. Always mafia lets VE alive. In every game VE was misslynch from Town (if he was Town) and you guys using me as your next misslynch for Town just because newbie looks scummy. "she writes different" She compares old games with the actual play still using here" She is not playing like the other that looks scummy". No you fucking with the wrong Town here. I am not VE and will do everything what this Town needs and if nobody sees this how chez just safed you at the vivax lynch I am obviously playing with the wrong people here. You all telling me how high you meta is and the experience you guys have over the last decade... yes we talking about a fucking decade and you don't see that. On December 18 2023 22:21 die_meatbaby wrote: Fuck off with this Palmar tunnel I have. I don't care who is mafia with you but you fucking are. Chez didn't vote on you at first and second lynch. It was so obvious that we couldn't believe it. But now I see the light at the end of my tunnel and this light is you. I can't step on the gas pedal, because the traffic light is so red... On December 18 2023 22:47 die_meatbaby wrote: Suddenly posting about raynpelikoneet as well. Is she suspicious of him also? That makes four mafia in a two player game.I already said lets fucking vote this ego busted dickhead and the people here voting still on HF Rayn isn't here the hole day votes on HF instead of Palmar and Trfel waiting to see what rayn is going to do and votes then also on HF. Why not TRFEL and Rayn or Trfel and you or Trfel and Palmar. Why was he waiting? He is sad about HF and votes on him. What did he expect? Why didn't the people vote on Palmar here ot least on me as I said lynch rather me then HF. Yes I was also wrong but I knew he was at least not scum. On December 18 2023 23:38 die_meatbaby wrote: And here goes marvellosity and Alakaslam too.The actuall fuck is goeing on here. I am at the point were i am just pissed on mafia for fooling us so hard. You got almost lynched 2 times at the first two lynches and chez saved you all two lynches even at the second one he rather voted on Trefel then on you. It is so obvious that i can´t believe it myself that that could actually be true. Rayn coming, telling in 2 or 3 sentences why he rather vote on HF than on me or Palmar. Trefel beeing around and just waiting with his vote what was the main reason why HF was lynched because he could have let it on me or on Palmar and then beeing sad about HF lynch. WTF is this here. MARV not even thinking a bit of Palmar beeing scum And Slam starts posting like chez and I don´t understand what he wants to say with his strange posts The hell i am suspicious of to many people here right now Please understand, it's not scummy to be suspicious of lots of people. The suspicious thing is the lack of desire to figure out which suspicious people are actually mafia and which are town. Die_meatbaby is very content to just have everyone as suspicious, which is extremely mafia motivated and shows no desire to solve the game. On December 18 2023 23:44 die_meatbaby wrote: I fucking tell you why. Lynch Nr. 1 Most people are on Vivax second most voted train Sandro. Chez voted 1 hour before lynch on Vivax. At this point he should aready know that Vivax will get emtional now and he has good scum player should also know that maybe the vote train will go on sandro, but sadly not anoth town people here at that moment to save Vivax, Second lynch almost everbody on chez at the end of the timer but few hours before there was voting train on chez or on sandro and chez still rather voting on Trfel then on Sandro why should he do that. She's just coming up with whatever reason to be suspicious of anyone that she can, here it relies on me being town. This all makes no sense from a town perspective. Cognitive dissonance 3: lots of emotional energy, little/no scumhunting energy + Show Spoiler + Die_meatbaby is very angry and emotionally invested. But you don't see that investment in actual scumhunting. If someone is angry, if they are spending a lot of energy in the thread, it's because they care about the game, and thus presumably want to find mafia and win. But you don't see die_meatbaby trying to figure out people's alignments on anywhere NEAR the same magnitude as she is emotionally invested. Lots of the quotes above support this, or you can read her filter. She finds lots of things suspicious but doesn't seem to care to figure out who is actually mafia and who isn't. Then there are smaller things. For example, when Holyflare asks die_meatbaby who is mafia with Palmar, she answers:But four hours later the second post comes. Which one is it? If Holyflare is one of the most likely candidates for being the remaining mafia member, why would she say he is blue and want herself lynched instead? And if she thinks Holyflare is blue, how would have have a chance of being mafia? This is not the view of someone who is looking at the game and actually trying to figure out people's alignments. I'm convinced that die_meatbaby is mafia. If you are not, please talk to me and help me to understand why, since it is very important that town is in agreement this phase. Didnt read but scummy | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
On December 19 2023 23:22 sandroba wrote: Are you saying if there is 4 no lynch votes and 2 votes on someone, someone gets lynched? I don't think that's how it works. Yeah no I’m probably wrong, no lynch might be a plurality option. If you wanna we can but I kinda don’t care enough to wait. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On December 18 2023 00:35 die_meatbaby wrote: There a people NOW who are thinking of him as scum, but not after the first lynch. I was alone with my thoughts there. I never votet on Palmar because it would just be a useless vote. First vote i need to safe vivax. (altough we missed one vote to safe him) Second 10 votes on chez... 1 vote on Palmar will chance the lynch... yeah.. I most likley think it would be Trfel or you! On December 18 2023 04:12 die_meatbaby wrote: rather lynch me than HF. Better do lose a normal Town then losing a blue one! I will die for Town and i will not care but i will not be with a lynch our hope for a vigi or something else what could help. I think these 2 posts here Trfel found are the strongest evidence that this is an act and DMB doesn't actually believe what she is saying. Only 4 hours before said HF was likely mafia. But 4 hours later she is telling us she is so sure HF is blue she wants to be lynched in his place. According to her she has been thinking HF is blue since N1, how can the first post ever make sense if that's how she sees it? | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On December 20 2023 01:49 Palmar wrote: Yeah no I’m probably wrong, no lynch might be a plurality option. If you wanna we can but I kinda don’t care enough to wait. I'm like 99.999 on dmb, at this point I think it's more risky a bad townie might screw us over if someone sensible dies | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
On December 20 2023 01:51 sandroba wrote: I'm like 99.999 on dmb, at this point I think it's more risky a bad townie might screw us over if someone sensible dies I mean yeah. Game is probably lost if scum team is outside Trfel/dmb I am probably just never lynching rayn. And slam has done very well if he’s mafia. And in lylo I think I always lynch Trfel over you | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
On December 19 2023 23:13 sandroba wrote: If Palmar was mafia I would be dead and not marv. If mafia wanted to blue hunt I think they prob kill slam, since based on my logic for blue palmar I couldn't be blue either. So Palmar I think could only be mafia with Slam. And that means HF is wrong about Slam and Marv wrong about Palmar. If that's the case here congrats to both. Yeah I actually like this post. | ||
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Palmar
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Alakaslam
United States17324 Posts
On December 19 2023 18:08 Palmar wrote: I need town to understand, we're here because we suck. If mafia isn't killing us it's because we're bad. Sheeping dead townies is a good idea. Ditto tbh | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17324 Posts
On December 19 2023 21:20 Palmar wrote: In fact, I personally don't think marv tracked me. I think he just thinks I'm town. More dittos | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17324 Posts
On December 19 2023 23:13 sandroba wrote: If Palmar was mafia I would be dead and not marv. If mafia wanted to blue hunt I think they prob kill slam, since based on my logic for blue palmar I couldn't be blue either. So Palmar I think could only be mafia with Slam. And that means HF is wrong about Slam and Marv wrong about Palmar. If that's the case here congrats to both. This logic is based on wifom | ||
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