On December 18 2023 23:36 sandroba wrote: Rayn only shows up when he is being talked about to try to diffuse suspicion off of him. He doesn't pursue his scum reads, and is very tame not to antagonize players in the thread too much, all of which are mafia-favored behaviors.
You do realise this is absolute horse shit? Go read any of my mafia games i have ever played.
On December 19 2023 05:46 marvellosity wrote: Mafia don’t tend to get more and more involved as the game goes on, it’s hard to keep up that level of genuine interest in the game.
Was seriously considering a marvellosity/Palmar scum team but wanted to wait to see if the night kill would resolve it, which it did.
I think Palmar is probably my strongest townread, with sandroba not too far behind (I don't see how Palmar could be mafia unless he is mafia with marvellosity). Will have a lot of reevaluating to do. I still think die_meatbaby is mafia and don't really understand why people disagree. I need to catch up on the last 10 pages but I'll be here on-and-off for a while.
Possible Marv tracked Palmar at some point and didn't see Palmar visit anyone. My heart says palmar, my head says sleep. Got Masoned by Trfel today, let's see if I can learn something
On December 19 2023 12:32 sandroba wrote: Possible Marv tracked Palmar at some point and didn't see Palmar visit anyone. My heart says palmar, my head says sleep. Got Masoned by Trfel today, let's see if I can learn something
I don't think a tracker is a super useful role most of the time. I had a hunch marvellosity was quite possibly our other power role. The tough part is that even if you track someone and they don't visit anyone, they could still easily be mafia. I wouldn't even be surprised to see the mafia team having 2 regular goons. In fact, I would be very surprised if they have more than the (already flipped) roleblocker that visits people. Since they can have the same person deliver KP and roleblock, that leaves a 2/3 chance of the tracker being on mafia and still giving no information.
Thus, I think the only information to be gained by a tracker is incriminating someone. I'm guessing that did not happen or that would have been claimed and/or that person would have been lynched. I'll try and take a look through his filter anyway though sometime before the end of the day.
On December 19 2023 06:51 die_meatbaby wrote: I reread the game and this d2 is just confusing as hell. The thing what really bothers me is T right before the lynch
On December 18 2023 08:48 Trfel wrote: I don't know. If nothing changes I guess the right play is just for me to vote Palmar to consolidate and hope for the best?
Which I will do if it comes to it, would just really rather lynch die_meatbaby.
With 3 votes, Palmar is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Monday, Dec 18 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
Rayn comes out of nowhere like a Pokemon tells us why he is voting on HF in the shortes, less taking afford way he can do.
On December 18 2023 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##vote Holyflare
Out ofthese three i am voting here. I had least somewhat productive discussion with Palmar last night, DMB i dont think is mafia.
And Trfel directly chance his vote to HF and saved Palmar. It was 3 vs 3 votes and Palmar was the first high votest so he would still get lynched. Trfel stopped the Palmar lynch and chance his decision to vote on Palmar when nobody votes on me in 20 minutes without explanation why HF and not anymore Palmar. And don´t tell me this one post from rayn chanced your mind.
On December 18 2023 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##vote Holyflare
Out ofthese three i am voting here. I had least somewhat productive discussion with Palmar last night, DMB i dont think is mafia.
Also voting Holyflare I guess.
[/QUOTE]In case I am wrong and you are town.
Raynpelikoneet's reasoning did not change my mind. My mind did not change. My first thought was that I would vote for Palmar to help consolidate votes (get all the votes on the same person to prevent last second moves from the mafia team). I did not want to lynch Palmar, but if he was getting lynched anyway, that was my best play.
Once raynpelikoneet voted, I had a choice where my vote determined if Palmar or Holyflare was lynched. I chose to vote for Holyflare, for better or worse.
Sorry the quotes got messed up there, they were messed up in the post I quoted and I neglected to fix it.
I will post my reasoning for die_meatbaby being mafia tomorrow, when I am back on my computer. I think the case for her being mafia is very strong. Alakaslam and raynpelikoneet, I would very much like to discuss this with you, I think it is of utmost importance.
In the meantime, I ask, why do people think die_meatbaby is town? I understand the point about the day 1 lynch with Vivax. But that seems like the only reason I've heard with any merit. Everything else I have seen comes down to tone or stuff which I don't think makes much sense. Please help me understand, since if die_meatbaby is in fact town then this is very critical.
My schedule is flexible but I have some commitments. Please let me know when you may be available and I will try and make myself available then. Sandroba I can talk to via the mason chat. But if I need to be around at a specific time it helps me to know in advance.
On December 19 2023 06:51 die_meatbaby wrote: I reread the game and this d2 is just confusing as hell. The thing what really bothers me is T right before the lynch
T writing this:
On December 18 2023 08:48 Trfel wrote: I don't know. If nothing changes I guess the right play is just for me to vote Palmar to consolidate and hope for the best?
Which I will do if it comes to it, would just really rather lynch die_meatbaby.
With 3 votes, Palmar is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Monday, Dec 18 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
Rayn comes out of nowhere like a Pokemon tells us why he is voting on HF in the shortes, less taking afford way he can do.
On December 18 2023 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##vote Holyflare
Out ofthese three i am voting here. I had least somewhat productive discussion with Palmar last night, DMB i dont think is mafia.
And Trfel directly chance his vote to HF and saved Palmar. It was 3 vs 3 votes and Palmar was the first high votest so he would still get lynched. Trfel stopped the Palmar lynch and chance his decision to vote on Palmar when nobody votes on me in 20 minutes without explanation why HF and not anymore Palmar. And don´t tell me this one post from rayn chanced your mind.
On December 18 2023 09:12 Trfel wrote:
On December 18 2023 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##vote Holyflare
Out ofthese three i am voting here. I had least somewhat productive discussion with Palmar last night, DMB i dont think is mafia.
Also voting Holyflare I guess.
In case I am wrong and you are town.
Raynpelikoneet's reasoning did not change my mind. My mind did not change. My first thought was that I would vote for Palmar to help consolidate votes (get all the votes on the same person to prevent last second moves from the mafia team). I did not want to lynch Palmar, but if he was getting lynched anyway, that was my best play.
Once raynpelikoneet voted, I had a choice where my vote determined if Palmar or Holyflare was lynched. I chose to vote for Holyflare, for better or worse.