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sandroba
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marvellosity
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On December 17 2023 22:18 sandroba wrote: Marv, can you point to me a game with the best or one of the best scum performances by HF? I don’t know. I would say pretty much any scumgame he’s played tbh. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On December 17 2023 22:16 Palmar wrote: If you believe your Palmar/dmb thesis, you can’t really argue the point that I’ve objectively far more than her. Throw in that if you believe it a bunch of people who you think are town (by elimination) think I’m town and dmb may be scum (marv trfel). You should probably consider where the most likely mafia flip is in your worldview Palmar, how is marv ever scum, unless you are saying he is scum with me? He had all the excuse in the world to fuck off and leave his vote on me, why would he ever vote chezinu in that spot | ||
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sandroba
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On December 17 2023 21:24 Holyflare wrote: Let's just play around with your world view for a bit. If I am town and you think Palmar is town, who is mafia? Palmar is town. I’ve 180d on rayn again and I think he’s town. I think sandroba is town. Mafia just sits in the rest. Slam probably unlynchable today if it’s him. So between Trfel and DMB. That’s what I’m going to need to try to magic the time up to figure out. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On December 17 2023 22:26 sandroba wrote: Palmar, how is marv ever scum, unless you are saying he is scum with me? He had all the excuse in the world to fuck off and leave his vote on me, why would he ever vote chezinu in that spot You misread Palmar’s post sand | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On December 17 2023 22:29 sandroba wrote: I'm willing to be convinced. I find a lot of HFs post extremely townie but his actions de aren't. He says he thought I was townie after palmar mason thing according to him, but never pushed this view in the thread or moved his vote Yes, this and stuff like this. I know I am not going to be able to go through HF’s filter and find anything that makes him mafia, I’m just not, it’s a waste of my time. He’s too rational. When Hf is town, he’s not always right, and he can properly tunnel a townie to death. One of his strongest attributes is he can get people lynched, as either alignment, and sometimes that means he tunnels a townie to death. But he hasn’t treated Palmar like that, he’s not tunnelling him to death so he’s not really giving anyone the option to argue with his read. Palmar was right, I think - the town read that Hf (previously!) had on him was scummy. Palmar is in the privileged position of knowing he’s town (again assuming that’s he case blablabla) - which means he gets to make this sort of read. I understand what he was saying now. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On December 17 2023 22:29 sandroba wrote: I'm willing to be convinced. I find a lot of HFs post extremely townie but his actions de aren't. He says he thought I was townie after palmar mason thing according to him, but never pushed this view in the thread or moved his vote This mason thing is a good example. I understand and read what you posted. But actually nothing that you posted should have totally overturned HFs read on palmar. It wasn’t so different to what palmar said, it’s just a matter of perspective. When I read your summary, sandro, this is what I thought - Palmar is still behaving like Palmar, and maybe his report on your chat is just born out of his scumread in you. Palmar will have known you’d post your version at some point, it’s not like he was the only one who could summarise the chat. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
If holyflare is forced to ride with Palmar town then the game becomes much simpler, mafias options are cut down. Mafia need the doubt about Palmar’s alignment. | ||
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On December 17 2023 22:30 marvellosity wrote: Palmar is town. I’ve 180d on rayn again and I think he’s town. I think sandroba is town. Mafia just sits in the rest. Slam probably unlynchable today if it’s him. So between Trfel and DMB. That’s what I’m going to need to try to magic the time up to figure out. what makes me mafia?? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
The problem is more that I am eliminating people who I think are townies and you’re not reaching that threshold. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
So your crusade on him doesn’t fill me with joy. | ||
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On December 17 2023 22:43 marvellosity wrote: The problem is more that I am eliminating people who I think are townies and you’re not reaching that threshold. Thank you for this detailed answer as to why I am not Town. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
But Palmar’s flip solves way more than DMB’s flip does. By far. So if palmar being mafia is HFs view of the game he should not be instructing townies to lynch DMB, he should be rallying the town to lynch palmar. Instead he is content to let the ‘big fish’ scumread dangle there and go after the LHF (regardless of DMB alignment!) It’s day 3, it’s time to make the big calls. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On December 17 2023 22:49 die_meatbaby wrote: Thank you for this detailed answer as to why I am not Town. Am I trying to lynch you? No I’m not. So stop whining and understand what I am talking about instead of being, or acting, butthurt. | ||
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On December 17 2023 22:46 marvellosity wrote: Like I’m certain palmar is town, DMB. So your crusade on him doesn’t fill me with joy. Okey i am mafia because i don´t just jump on an wagon that somebody constructed. I have my own opinion on who is scum and i am still sure it´s Palmar. So thats every good reason from you. Sorry that I just not go with your scum thoughts and rather follow my own thoughts. (but i like the HF scum idea(with Palmar)) Sorry next game I will just follow somebody´s scum thoughts like mafia does. | ||
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On December 17 2023 22:53 marvellosity wrote: Am I trying to lynch you? No I’m not. So stop whining and understand what I am talking about instead of being, or acting, butthurt. I am not whining I just wanted to know the reason | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On December 17 2023 22:55 die_meatbaby wrote: Okey i am mafia because i don´t just jump on an wagon that somebody constructed. I have my own opinion on who is scum and i am still sure it´s Palmar. So thats every good reason from you. Sorry that I just not go with your scum thoughts and rather follow my own thoughts. (but i like the HF scum idea(with Palmar)) Sorry next game I will just follow somebody´s scum thoughts like mafia does. I don’t understand what you’re trying to say here. How are you sure it’s palmar? Make me believe your read is genuine. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On December 17 2023 22:55 die_meatbaby wrote: Okey i am mafia because i don´t just jump on an wagon that somebody constructed. I have my own opinion on who is scum and i am still sure it´s Palmar. So thats every good reason from you. Sorry that I just not go with your scum thoughts and rather follow my own thoughts. (but i like the HF scum idea(with Palmar)) Sorry next game I will just follow somebody´s scum thoughts like mafia does. You know, one of the key skills of a townplayer is following another townplayer when they are right. It only takes 1 townie to find a mafia. But it takes a whole bunch of townies to actually lynch the mafia. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
People need to set out their vision clearly and consistently and if it doesn’t make sense I’m gonna call it. | ||
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