I’m sick of being attacked for defending him as well.

Maybe I’m terrible this time but I just don’t think so.

So frankly I don’t like the people who are telling me this.

Sand/hf.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36156 Posts

December 17 2023 11:06 GMT

#2563

I’ve gone off rayn as fast as I went on him.

Gonna have a little browse of a Trfel scumgame or two (my friends are still here - sorry for lack of activity) to see whether he has the capability of some of his posts that I’ve thought were town this game.

I’m a little uncomfortable (ironically) that he’s not considering Palmar as mafia when everyone else seems to be.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36156 Posts

December 17 2023 11:09 GMT

#2564

Really the only reason I’m uncomfortable with rayn at all is I don’t know why he was pushing Koshi n2, he should have been reading him town by then?

marvellosity

United Kingdom36156 Posts

December 17 2023 11:13 GMT

#2565

If I accept my view of the game as the truth and refuse to be bullied about it

Then mafia sits in hf/sand. Probably only 1, whoever is the mafia is using the other person as cover.

whichever of you is town, it would be swell if you engaged with me on this.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36156 Posts

December 17 2023 11:16 GMT

#2566

Frankly this game is very difficult overall, I haven’t been able to eliminate as many sure townies as I’d want to by d3. Or they got shot.

Too many people whom could reasonably sit on either pile

marvellosity

United Kingdom36156 Posts

December 17 2023 11:22 GMT

#2567

HF more likely than sand. I do think the level of fight sand showed is quite outside his normal mafia play/ability. I don’t think anything HF has done is outside his mafia capabilities

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

December 17 2023 11:23 GMT

#2568

Agree with everything above. Want to add that Trfel should stay off the table today.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36156 Posts

December 17 2023 11:24 GMT

#2569

Someone said somewhere throat Trfel is an emotional townie. He’s been extremely level headed here in the main.

Is DMB the mafia mislynch here?

marvellosity

United Kingdom36156 Posts

December 17 2023 11:28 GMT

#2570

##vote: holyflare

Frankly I don’t have a case. In the main Hf has been extremely reasonable, smart, and at various times engaging. The flip slide is that everything he says is so fucking smart, so why don’t I feel he has more of a grip on the game than me?

He belittles my Palmar read on several occasions. I really don’t like it.

Sand probably just butthurt Palmar scumread him all game.

Sandro if you’re the townie here, we need to hash this out. Today.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36156 Posts

December 17 2023 11:31 GMT

#2571

HF mafia kills Koshi who wants to kill palmar/DMB.

Again I’m just accepting my truth that palmar is town. Puts suspicion on both palmar/DMB.

I know this is entirely wifom but I am just trying to piece the game in a way that makes sense to me.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36156 Posts

December 17 2023 11:34 GMT

#2572

Maybe mafia (whether hf or not) thought I would continue to equivocate or lack confidence in my Palmar read and therefore I would have no sway in the game because I would refuse to defend my stance robustly.

Well, now I’m not making it so easy. I’ve set out my stall. So, townies among you, where do we go from here please?

Holyflare

United Kingdom30774 Posts

December 17 2023 12:14 GMT

#2573

If you think I kill the guy that has the same view of the game as me then you're insane lol. Obviously wifom and all that but I just haven't been around much for most of the game to push my world view (or really that invested in mafia anymore to care about posting all the time).

Holyflare

United Kingdom30774 Posts

December 17 2023 12:24 GMT

#2574

Let's just play around with your world view for a bit. If I am town and you think Palmar is town, who is mafia?

Holyflare

United Kingdom30774 Posts

December 17 2023 12:27 GMT

#2575

Everyone should have a vote down already and yet there's 2 vote for palmar and 1 for DMB. DMB, despite perpetually entering the thread and saying things and yelling from the mountaintops that Palmar is mafia has voted Palmar how many times this game?

You got it. 0.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30774 Posts

December 17 2023 12:29 GMT

#2576

If you're a townie and you haven't voted yet then do so. I don't care if you're unsure, hold yourself accountable.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

December 17 2023 13:09 GMT

#2577

On December 17 2023 21:27 Holyflare wrote:
Everyone should have a vote down already and yet there's 2 vote for palmar and 1 for DMB. DMB, despite perpetually entering the thread and saying things and yelling from the mountaintops that Palmar is mafia has voted Palmar how many times this game?

You got it. 0.

If you think this, why are you voting me and not dmb?

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

December 17 2023 13:09 GMT

#2578

On December 17 2023 21:29 Holyflare wrote:
If you're a townie and you haven't voted yet then do so. I don't care if you're unsure, hold yourself accountable.

Palmar

Iceland22632 Posts

December 17 2023 13:16 GMT

#2579

If you believe your Palmar/dmb thesis, you can’t really argue the point that I’ve objectively far more than her. Throw in that if you believe it a bunch of people who you think are town (by elimination) think I’m town and dmb may be scum (marv trfel). You should probably consider where the most likely mafia flip is in your worldview