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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 17 2023 01:19 GMT
#2501
On December 17 2023 10:19 sandroba wrote:
Poker about to start, will come back tomorrow

booo
Computer says mafia
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 17 2023 01:20 GMT
#2502
Trfel is like one of my top town reads atm
Won't ever lynch him or marv
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 17 2023 01:22 GMT
#2503
I agree, I kinda don't think raynpelikoneet is mafia. I know he's burned me before as mafia though, and there is someone who is sneaking by who I'm not really seeing. My guess was it was either you (Palmar) or raynpelikoneet, I could definitely see that being wrong though since I feel I have more reasons to townread you both than scumread you.

Like I could see raynpelikoneet being mafia, it wouldn't really surprise me, but it doesn't make anywhere near as much sense as I would like to have any sort of confidence in it.

I need to reread Alakaslam, Holyflare, and sandroba.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 17 2023 01:23 GMT
#2504
Like if I had to guess right now I'd guess mafia is die_meatbaby and raynpelikoneet. But I don't like that guess.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 17 2023 01:30 GMT
#2505
On DMB:

- I like her first read on Palmar (not readwise), but it doesn't seem like she has a team behind her ("is Palmar always this overconfident or does he just seem to me like a big headed strong player who trys to hide something")
- She then voted for Vivax, while still doubting Palmar. Idk why she is trying to convince other people that Palmar is not town.
- random comment on favoring a chez lynch (when dp posted something), i dont really see her doing that as mafia knowing chez is mafia
- EoD 1 is just fucking townie from her...

- I don't really see anything wrong on her play D2

Why do people think she is mafia gain?
table for two on a tv tray
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 17 2023 01:31 GMT
#2506
I thought die_meatbaby was mafia due to how she played day 2, her vote on Chezinu screamed bussing to me. She was so focused on her Palmar read but was content to go along with everyone and vote for Chezinu in what felt like an afterthought.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 17 2023 01:32 GMT
#2507
On December 17 2023 10:22 Trfel wrote:
I agree, I kinda don't think raynpelikoneet is mafia. I know he's burned me before as mafia though, and there is someone who is sneaking by who I'm not really seeing. My guess was it was either you (Palmar) or raynpelikoneet, I could definitely see that being wrong though since I feel I have more reasons to townread you both than scumread you.

Like I could see raynpelikoneet being mafia, it wouldn't really surprise me, but it doesn't make anywhere near as much sense as I would like to have any sort of confidence in it.

I need to reread Alakaslam, Holyflare, and sandroba.

would like to see who you ACTULLY DO think is mafia, please?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 17 2023 01:33 GMT
#2508
On December 17 2023 10:31 Trfel wrote:
I thought die_meatbaby was mafia due to how she played day 2, her vote on Chezinu screamed bussing to me. She was so focused on her Palmar read but was content to go along with everyone and vote for Chezinu in what felt like an afterthought.

right, her vote could be bussing, it didn't really do anything anymore at that point.
other than the vote, though...
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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 17 2023 01:34 GMT
#2509
On December 17 2023 10:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2023 10:22 Trfel wrote:
I agree, I kinda don't think raynpelikoneet is mafia. I know he's burned me before as mafia though, and there is someone who is sneaking by who I'm not really seeing. My guess was it was either you (Palmar) or raynpelikoneet, I could definitely see that being wrong though since I feel I have more reasons to townread you both than scumread you.

Like I could see raynpelikoneet being mafia, it wouldn't really surprise me, but it doesn't make anywhere near as much sense as I would like to have any sort of confidence in it.

I need to reread Alakaslam, Holyflare, and sandroba.

would like to see who you ACTULLY DO think is mafia, please?
I think die_meatbaby is mafia. For realzies, all the bells and whistles and all that.

Past that I don't know. I'm missing something in this game, my best reason for that is that someone who is good at mafia is completely fooling me. The hard part is figuring out who that could be.

Holyflare says Palmar is obvious mafia, which I find very interesting, I look forward to hearing why.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 17 2023 01:36 GMT
#2510
I am also saying Palmar is obvious mafia barring the conversation we had.
Do you have an opinion of yours on that?
table for two on a tv tray
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 17 2023 01:38 GMT
#2511
I also didn't like the way die_meatbaby voted for Vivax on Day 1 but marvellosity disagreed with me about that. Your point about die_meatbaby trying to keep Vivax alive is valid, part of me wonders if mafia!die_meatbaby would do that just because she still wants town!Vivax in the game even if it isn't necessarily beneficial for her winning but it's hard to say.

I also don't feel like the desire to get Palmar lynched is genuine. Could be wrong about this for sure, she says a lot of words on Palmar, but my instinct is that the motivation isn't really behind it. Could be wrong. That's most of it, I also don't really have a ton of reasons to townread her I suppose? Other than the Vivax thing.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 17 2023 01:41 GMT
#2512
On December 17 2023 10:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am also saying Palmar is obvious mafia barring the conversation we had.
Do you have an opinion of yours on that?

Very rude
Computer says mafia
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 17 2023 01:41 GMT
#2513
On December 17 2023 10:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am also saying Palmar is obvious mafia barring the conversation we had.
Do you have an opinion of yours on that?
Honestly I'm just not seeing Palmar as mafia. Like theoretically it could be possible, but I'm not sure if Palmar's play this game is in the range of his scum play (to be fair I don't really know what his scum play range is, I just was under the impression that it wasn't quite on the level of someone like you or Holyflare). I looked through his filter, there were a few things that came up but nothing seriously scummy. One of the main points I had on him ended up having a somewhat plausible explanation. Furthermore, I do believe marvellosity is town and I trust marvellosity's read on Palmar, he said he's going to re-evaluate that over the course of the day but for now that's still a townread.

I think perhaps the most likely answer is that one of my assumptions are wrong and that Holyflare or sandroba or Alakaslam is mafia. I have no idea why they would be mafia though, I'm hoping to get through some filter dives sooner or later.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 17 2023 01:43 GMT
#2514
On December 17 2023 10:41 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2023 10:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am also saying Palmar is obvious mafia barring the conversation we had.
Do you have an opinion of yours on that?
Honestly I'm just not seeing Palmar as mafia. Like theoretically it could be possible, but I'm not sure if Palmar's play this game is in the range of his scum play (to be fair I don't really know what his scum play range is, I just was under the impression that it wasn't quite on the level of someone like you or Holyflare). I looked through his filter, there were a few things that came up but nothing seriously scummy. One of the main points I had on him ended up having a somewhat plausible explanation. Furthermore, I do believe marvellosity is town and I trust marvellosity's read on Palmar, he said he's going to re-evaluate that over the course of the day but for now that's still a townread.

I think perhaps the most likely answer is that one of my assumptions are wrong and that Holyflare or sandroba or Alakaslam is mafia. I have no idea why they would be mafia though, I'm hoping to get through some filter dives sooner or later.

Very polite
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 17 2023 01:45 GMT
#2515
I would appreciate more slam posting.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 17 2023 01:48 GMT
#2516
On December 17 2023 10:41 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2023 10:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am also saying Palmar is obvious mafia barring the conversation we had.
Do you have an opinion of yours on that?
Honestly I'm just not seeing Palmar as mafia. Like theoretically it could be possible, but I'm not sure if Palmar's play this game is in the range of his scum play (to be fair I don't really know what his scum play range is, I just was under the impression that it wasn't quite on the level of someone like you or Holyflare). I looked through his filter, there were a few things that came up but nothing seriously scummy. One of the main points I had on him ended up having a somewhat plausible explanation. Furthermore, I do believe marvellosity is town and I trust marvellosity's read on Palmar, he said he's going to re-evaluate that over the course of the day but for now that's still a townread.

I think perhaps the most likely answer is that one of my assumptions are wrong and that Holyflare or sandroba or Alakaslam is mafia. I have no idea why they would be mafia though, I'm hoping to get through some filter dives sooner or later.

So you don't really have a read on Palmar?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 17 2023 01:49 GMT
#2517
Uhh this is weird tbh.
table for two on a tv tray
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 17 2023 01:52 GMT
#2518
Off for real now it’s 2am. I will read HF tomorrow
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 17 2023 01:53 GMT
#2519
Trfel what if i said i think Palmar is my town read and he reads DMB town and that's why DMB is town, unless Palmar is scum.

Would that be a good read? Because that's what you basically just said on your read on Palmar.
table for two on a tv tray
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 17 2023 01:56 GMT
#2520
The marvellosity part is only a small part. But it still stands.

I don't really see anything atypical from Palmar's posting, which is why I have a hard time seeing him as mafia. I'd normally townread him but I'm having a lot of trouble finding the last mafia.
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