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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 29 2023 13:33 GMT
#1301
On August 27 2023 21:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up after having to unexpectedly getting busy after my last post and DP and Vivax had a fight seemed forced? At least I think DP is town from that fight.

I am talking about this.

I read that as DP going off for no reason at all and Vivax being Vivax.
DP looked like shit and Vivax looked silly but showed activity so meta wise he was more likely town.

So can you talk me through why you thought Vivax was neutral and DP townish. And why that is if it is a forced conversation, because then Vivax would be redish because he is faking activity.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 29 2023 13:36 GMT
#1302
On August 29 2023 21:15 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 21:09 Vivax wrote:
I have a bunch of issues with this post sequence and what it means for LS' progressions.

(1) : He seems to harbor suspicions for DP but doesn't really spell them out. Initially he even asks Koshi why he's after him.
He thought the fight looked forced, decided DP looked townier, but ignored spelling out an opinion on me that would confirm that he felt it was forced.

(2) He is one of the few who thinks TTT doesn't look scummy. He townread DP but later stated that TTT looked townier for him after having a back and forth with DP. That reads as if he had an expectation that being in a clinch with DP would be a townie thing to do.

(3): He didn't really have a read on VE. But he thought Koshi was obviously mafia and his vote on VE seemed off. But first it seemed off, and afterwards he analyzed the reasons that could make him mafia and concluded nothing.

On August 27 2023 05:34 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 27 2023 05:25 Koshi wrote:
Dp/rayn/marv scumteam

##Vote DP

(1) Why you voting DP? Also isn't it a little to early to form a scumteam?


On August 27 2023 06:24 LightningStrike wrote:
(1)Hopefully DP posts more soon given it's early in the morning where he's at.


On August 27 2023 21:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up after having to unexpectedly getting busy after my last post and DP and Vivax had a fight (1)seemed forced? At least I think DP is town from that fight.

Koshi though seemed underwhelming on my reread: He not exactly pushing his own thoughts per say this game compared to normal if he's town he needs to step it up big time. Also Chez not using his own rule right now is pretty suspicious considering he loved talking about in the past how he applies it.


On August 27 2023 21:33 LightningStrike wrote:
(2) Also side note TTT seemed more insightful this time around compared to Part 1 where he was mafia so likely town for the time being.


On August 27 2023 21:39 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 27 2023 21:35 DarthPunk wrote:
who you want to lynch right now LS?

Chez and Koshi obviously.


On August 28 2023 08:54 LightningStrike wrote:
(3) I am back from having to do house work all day and Koshi looks a bit better but his vote on VE seems off? Idk how to feel about Koshi. VE though not being as abrasive as he was when I was mafia with him in Endure's 1 but he wasn't around as much as that game either if I remember how much activity he had that game but his content not exactly that great either. Chez not doing anything after the Chez rule stuff and ninja voting VE ???? Chez most likely is mafia out of the 2 wagons though if I have to pick out of those 2.
##Vote: Chezinu


On August 28 2023 12:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Got out of my TTRPG session and Chez flipped town :| I will admit I should of figured when there was little to no resistance to his lynch when I did my vote >.< (2) TTT is town like I did say earlier and his fight with DP cements it for me. But I am a bit lost though given the flip.


Not a good look either way. I would vote LS.


##Vote: LightningStrike

Yes, I agree with this actually. Particularly the DP/TTT fight being forced, except he ends up with 2 townreads out of it

Am I going crazy or is there no mention of a forced DP/TTT fight in LS filter?
I had a good night of sleep.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
August 29 2023 13:38 GMT
#1303
It's right in the quote what do you mean
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 29 2023 13:39 GMT
#1304
On August 29 2023 22:38 iamperfection wrote:
It's right in the quote what do you mean

SHOW ME THE QUOTE
I had a good night of sleep.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 29 2023 13:40 GMT
#1305
On August 29 2023 22:33 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2023 21:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up after having to unexpectedly getting busy after my last post and DP and Vivax had a fight seemed forced? At least I think DP is town from that fight.

I am talking about this.

I read that as DP going off for no reason at all and Vivax being Vivax.
DP looked like shit and Vivax looked silly but showed activity so meta wise he was more likely town.

So can you talk me through why you thought Vivax was neutral and DP townish. And why that is if it is a forced conversation, because then Vivax would be redish because he is faking activity.

Oh that fight (I had to reread that entire interaction but that was super early Day 1): Typo gate happened and felt like one of those 2 at the time tried to push it more than necessary. Vivax was more afk as mafia in Endure's 2 and didn't make any like big stand to just back down so easily here he took multiple hardstands and not backing down per say which is why I got him as town by meta.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
August 29 2023 13:40 GMT
#1306
On August 29 2023 22:39 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 22:38 iamperfection wrote:
It's right in the quote what do you mean

SHOW ME THE QUOTE

I'm on mobile.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 29 2023 13:41 GMT
#1307
On August 29 2023 22:15 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 18:55 Koshi wrote:
On August 28 2023 17:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you could technically argue Koshi could be mafia if VE is town (i wouldnt still believe that), but never with VE, since at the time thread progression was VE lynch pushed by marv+rayn+iamp and from those people marv+iamp didnt think mebaby is town, so why make a read the influence doesnt believe and is not supposed to gain you any town points?


On August 28 2023 19:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is also this Koshi thing that doesnt make any sense...


On August 28 2023 19:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Reasons:
- tried to change the lynch from his town read but not really tried
- missing out on obvious good reasons on VE and doing something else instead
- something else instead was kind of a lackluster, i doubt he actually wanted to do something else instead
- Koshi pointed out smart stuff, DP pointed out stupid stuff on that
- bad read on mebaby, not warranted at all that point


I fucked it up.

The things you point out here are false. Potentially intentionnaly because you also changed the order of the quotes.

First quote he says "I still wont believe koshi is mafia in this scenario" but in theory it is possible.

Second quote he is talking about the DP stuff said against me. "What DP said about Koshi doesn't make sense" and he explains it better in the next quote

Nothing there is rayn pressure on me. Quite the opposite because he townread me because of the DP stuff.

@jacob did you read this?


Ahh yeah my bad about flipping posts must have been an edit mistake. I may have got this wrong reading filter out of context he did town read you after early on it seems.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
August 29 2023 13:41 GMT
#1308
On August 27 2023 21:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up after having to unexpectedly getting busy after my last post and DP and Vivax had a fight (1)seemed forced? At least I think DP is town from that fight.

Koshi though seemed underwhelming on my reread: He not exactly pushing his own thoughts per say this game compared to normal if he's town he needs to step it up big time. Also Chez not using his own rule right now is pretty suspicious considering he loved talking about in the past how he applies it.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 29 2023 13:41 GMT
#1309
On August 29 2023 22:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 22:33 Koshi wrote:
On August 27 2023 21:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up after having to unexpectedly getting busy after my last post and DP and Vivax had a fight seemed forced? At least I think DP is town from that fight.

I am talking about this.

I read that as DP going off for no reason at all and Vivax being Vivax.
DP looked like shit and Vivax looked silly but showed activity so meta wise he was more likely town.

So can you talk me through why you thought Vivax was neutral and DP townish. And why that is if it is a forced conversation, because then Vivax would be redish because he is faking activity.

Oh that fight (I had to reread that entire interaction but that was super early Day 1): Typo gate happened and felt like one of those 2 at the time tried to push it more than necessary. Vivax was more afk as mafia in Endure's 2 and didn't make any like big stand to just back down so easily here he took multiple hardstands and not backing down per say which is why I got him as town by meta.

Dude. You concluded with DP is town and nothing on Vivax.
So can you answer me on how you came to that explanation. Both the DP and Vivax one.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 29 2023 13:44 GMT
#1310

On August 27 2023 21:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up after having to unexpectedly getting busy after my last post and DP and Vivax had a fight (1)seemed forced? At least I think DP is town from that fight.

Koshi though seemed underwhelming on my reread: He not exactly pushing his own thoughts per say this game compared to normal if he's town he needs to step it up big time. Also Chez not using his own rule right now is pretty suspicious considering he loved talking about in the past how he applies it.

That is not a forced DP/TTT fight.

Ok everybody is just dumb apparantly.

RIP rayn.

I miss you.

I wish we had more time together.
I had a good night of sleep.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 29 2023 13:45 GMT
#1311
On August 29 2023 22:41 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 22:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 29 2023 22:33 Koshi wrote:
On August 27 2023 21:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up after having to unexpectedly getting busy after my last post and DP and Vivax had a fight seemed forced? At least I think DP is town from that fight.

I am talking about this.

I read that as DP going off for no reason at all and Vivax being Vivax.
DP looked like shit and Vivax looked silly but showed activity so meta wise he was more likely town.

So can you talk me through why you thought Vivax was neutral and DP townish. And why that is if it is a forced conversation, because then Vivax would be redish because he is faking activity.

Oh that fight (I had to reread that entire interaction but that was super early Day 1): Typo gate happened and felt like one of those 2 at the time tried to push it more than necessary. Vivax was more afk as mafia in Endure's 2 and didn't make any like big stand to just back down so easily here he took multiple hardstands and not backing down per say which is why I got him as town by meta.

Dude. You concluded with DP is town and nothing on Vivax.
So can you answer me on how you came to that explanation. Both the DP and Vivax one.

DP was pushing the game forward at least a bit outside of Typo gate and Vivax at the time I don't remember trying to read him per say because of Endure's 2 I got fooled by him at the time but I am making a hard stance now on Vivax which I already just said twice this morning.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 29 2023 13:46 GMT
#1312
Out of all of rayns opinions I think you ended up being the least scummy looking in the end he was least committed on you iirc.

Particularly with me reading it wrong. I am slightly concerned about the lack of pushback in the ls lynch. Probably going to switch to ttt near the end as well. I feel that flip will give more clarify on both Marv and dp and if they're town I'm not to worried about marv thinking I'm scummy I'm sure I'll convince town Marv I'm town. Only concerned if ttt is somehow green that Marv is setting up a long con myslynch based on his behaviour.

iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
August 29 2023 13:48 GMT
#1313
Koshi what do you think of marv
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 29 2023 13:55 GMT
#1314
JSL it's because I am one of the most lynched people in TL Mafia history so I am not surprised there isn't much resistance.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
August 29 2023 14:03 GMT
#1315
On August 29 2023 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
JSL it's because I am one of the most lynched people in TL Mafia history so I am not surprised there isn't much resistance.

What do you plan on doing about it?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 29 2023 14:04 GMT
#1316
On August 29 2023 23:03 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
JSL it's because I am one of the most lynched people in TL Mafia history so I am not surprised there isn't much resistance.

What do you plan on doing about it?

Just trying to post and giving thoughts and fight it obviously.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
August 29 2023 14:06 GMT
#1317
On August 29 2023 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 23:03 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
JSL it's because I am one of the most lynched people in TL Mafia history so I am not surprised there isn't much resistance.

What do you plan on doing about it?

Just trying to post and giving thoughts and fight it obviously.

What do you think of marv
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 29 2023 14:11 GMT
#1318
On August 29 2023 23:06 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 29 2023 23:03 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
JSL it's because I am one of the most lynched people in TL Mafia history so I am not surprised there isn't much resistance.

What do you plan on doing about it?

Just trying to post and giving thoughts and fight it obviously.

What do you think of marv

Marv not exactly hard pushing things is a bit concerning but he been giving his thoughts every time he was around. But him voting TTT over me in that situation is ???? A slight scum read atm I do want him to explain more so why he voting TTT over me even though he admitted about the circumstances for me and TTT.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 29 2023 14:15 GMT
#1319
On August 29 2023 22:48 iamperfection wrote:
Koshi what do you think of marv

Tiptoptown

For everybody except marv:
+ Show Spoiler +
he is doing these little snippets that don't contribute as much as I would like but are his town meta. In the game I cohosted he was the most obvious mafia out of the 3 and I am not feeling that here. So I would say let's wait 1 more lynch and 1 more nk and murder him tomorrow if he is alive.
I had a good night of sleep.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
August 29 2023 14:17 GMT
#1320
Day Two Vote Count

LightningStrike (4): JacobStrangelove, mathenalin, Koshi, Vivax
TankTopTiger (1): marvellosity
mathenalin (0): JacobStranglelove

Not Voting (5): DarthPunk, LightningStrike, die_meatbaby, iamperfection, TankTopTiger

With 4 votes, LightningStrike is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Thursday, Aug 31 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in

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