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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2023 10:55 GMT
#1261
On August 29 2023 19:52 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 19:43 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:41 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:37 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:29 iamperfection wrote:
Who do you want to lynch marv

Into TTT/LS/(Jacob?)

Really, really, really annoying out of game stuff everywhere. LS birthday. TTT giving up? math giving up?

Doesn't 1 give up look more real then the other?

Tell me what you’re thinking

One obviously looks more real how don't you see it.

Emphasis on “looks” here. Does matter.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2023 10:56 GMT
#1262
This is one of those types of scenarios where “giving up” as mafia, you want to take pains to make sure it looks legit.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
August 29 2023 10:58 GMT
#1263
Ttt didn't vote marv. Math did that's why it looks more real.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 29 2023 11:00 GMT
#1264
On August 29 2023 19:58 iamperfection wrote:
Ttt didn't vote marv. Math did that's why it looks more real.

Oh so we actually agree.

No I’d totally missed that to be frank. I was hung up on the reasons given.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 29 2023 11:05 GMT
#1265
On August 29 2023 19:52 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 19:43 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:41 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:37 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:29 iamperfection wrote:
Who do you want to lynch marv

Into TTT/LS/(Jacob?)

Really, really, really annoying out of game stuff everywhere. LS birthday. TTT giving up? math giving up?

Doesn't 1 give up look more real then the other?

Tell me what you’re thinking

One obviously looks more real how don't you see it.

Because one said he contacted the hosts and will quit playing?? What a question.
I had a good night of sleep.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 29 2023 11:24 GMT
#1266
On August 29 2023 19:54 marvellosity wrote:
Staying on the theme, regarding TTT - seems to form part of a persecution complex this game. Day 1 he complained about he unstoppable wagon/votes on him and he had 1 vote. Then the giving up post.

More likely maf or town? Could be maf not liking the relatively constant pressure and giving up to not provide reads after flip. Guess it can also be town feeling unfairly treated.

I’m not sure there’s enough either way, so it doesn’t change my read on him.

Think I probably need to reread math now as it’s an even weaker give up, but I’ve just not seen him as mafia at all till now


You are misreading that post about unstoppable wagon he meant the wagon on chez.

I really don’t understand your town read on math at all tbh.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
August 29 2023 11:28 GMT
#1267
On August 29 2023 20:05 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 19:52 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:43 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:41 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:37 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:29 iamperfection wrote:
Who do you want to lynch marv

Into TTT/LS/(Jacob?)

Really, really, really annoying out of game stuff everywhere. LS birthday. TTT giving up? math giving up?

Doesn't 1 give up look more real then the other?

Tell me what you’re thinking

One obviously looks more real how don't you see it.

Because one said he contacted the hosts and will quit playing?? What a question.

Marv didn't see that what do you make of that?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22140 Posts
August 29 2023 11:30 GMT
#1268
On August 29 2023 20:05 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 19:52 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:43 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:41 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:37 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:29 iamperfection wrote:
Who do you want to lynch marv

Into TTT/LS/(Jacob?)

Really, really, really annoying out of game stuff everywhere. LS birthday. TTT giving up? math giving up?

Doesn't 1 give up look more real then the other?

Tell me what you’re thinking

One obviously looks more real how don't you see it.

Because one said he contacted the hosts and will quit playing?? What a question.


Do it or don‘t talk about it would be my advice to them.

If there‘s a townie reason for TTTs lack of confidence, I don‘t see it.

Mathe tone wise doesn‘t look that bad but it‘s hard to dismiss DP’s night post about him.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 29 2023 11:32 GMT
#1269
Any way I’m going to bed ( I snuck some posts in and pissed off my partner big time 😅) I’ll be around tomorrow to catch up.

I think some key points to consider are: are the four of us and vivax able to trust each other or not .

Because at some point this has to happen (validating the dominant voices in the game) and if we can then we have some serious work to do.

Personally I think vivax and perfection are pretty town

Marv I have reservations about due to lack of scum reads or cases more than anything that he has actually done

Koshi has been looking better recently but looked pretty bad previously.

I know that at least koshi has been suspicious of me this game.

I think this is a problem to solve

And then we figure out the math, ttt slot, Jacob, ls shit imo.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 29 2023 11:35 GMT
#1270
Regarding ttt don’t want to overshare but his headspace irl is not that good and I am surprised he signed up for this game.

I don’t think he was feeling very resilient so this outcome does not surprise me at all. NAI.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 29 2023 11:36 GMT
#1271
On August 29 2023 20:28 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 20:05 Koshi wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:52 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:43 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:41 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:37 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:29 iamperfection wrote:
Who do you want to lynch marv

Into TTT/LS/(Jacob?)

Really, really, really annoying out of game stuff everywhere. LS birthday. TTT giving up? math giving up?

Doesn't 1 give up look more real then the other?

Tell me what you’re thinking

One obviously looks more real how don't you see it.

Because one said he contacted the hosts and will quit playing?? What a question.

Marv didn't see that what do you make of that?


He has been a bit sloppy this game tbh.

And a little bit lazy too.

Reluctant to call him mafia though, because there is also helpfulness the issue is it’s not leading to anything at all.

Been bothering me since the night phase.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 29 2023 11:39 GMT
#1272
On August 29 2023 20:36 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 20:28 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 20:05 Koshi wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:52 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:43 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:41 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:37 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2023 19:29 iamperfection wrote:
Who do you want to lynch marv

Into TTT/LS/(Jacob?)

Really, really, really annoying out of game stuff everywhere. LS birthday. TTT giving up? math giving up?

Doesn't 1 give up look more real then the other?

Tell me what you’re thinking

One obviously looks more real how don't you see it.

Because one said he contacted the hosts and will quit playing?? What a question.

Marv didn't see that what do you make of that?


He has been a bit sloppy this game tbh.

And a little bit lazy too.

Reluctant to call him mafia though, because there is also helpfulness the issue is it’s not leading to anything at all.

Been bothering me since the night phase.



He also has been very good towards me this game, not much suspicion thrown my way. I usually align that with his mafia play but because I also said this last game it may not mean anything anymore
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22140 Posts
August 29 2023 11:40 GMT
#1273
I think LS could be scum too.

Koshi.

And possibly even DP.

One at a time. Before you start getting defensive, DP, know that I just can‘t see you as cleared and TTT folding like that could be more of a red flag for you rather than him.

Need a black bean brew now then I‘ll do some filter diving on the three and see if I can clear popular targets I don‘t think are scum. Didn‘t really conclude making my mind up about anything except the angle to tackle.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 29 2023 11:42 GMT
#1274
On August 29 2023 20:40 Vivax wrote:
I think LS could be scum too.

Koshi.

And possibly even DP.

One at a time. Before you start getting defensive, DP, know that I just can‘t see you as cleared and TTT folding like that could be more of a red flag for you rather than him.

Need a black bean brew now then I‘ll do some filter diving on the three and see if I can clear popular targets I don‘t think are scum. Didn‘t really conclude making my mind up about anything except the angle to tackle.


I’m fine with due diligence at this point.

A strong town core needs to be formed imo
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 29 2023 11:43 GMT
#1275
On August 29 2023 20:40 Vivax wrote:
I think LS could be scum too.

Koshi.

And possibly even DP.

One at a time. Before you start getting defensive, DP, know that I just can‘t see you as cleared and TTT folding like that could be more of a red flag for you rather than him.

Need a black bean brew now then I‘ll do some filter diving on the three and see if I can clear popular targets I don‘t think are scum. Didn‘t really conclude making my mind up about anything except the angle to tackle.


Can you take a look at Marv too please, particularly as you just played scum together.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22140 Posts
August 29 2023 12:09 GMT
#1276
I have a bunch of issues with this post sequence and what it means for LS' progressions.

(1) : He seems to harbor suspicions for DP but doesn't really spell them out. Initially he even asks Koshi why he's after him.
He thought the fight looked forced, decided DP looked townier, but ignored spelling out an opinion on me that would confirm that he felt it was forced.

(2) He is one of the few who thinks TTT doesn't look scummy. He townread DP but later stated that TTT looked townier for him after having a back and forth with DP. That reads as if he had an expectation that being in a clinch with DP would be a townie thing to do.

(3): He didn't really have a read on VE. But he thought Koshi was obviously mafia and his vote on VE seemed off. But first it seemed off, and afterwards he analyzed the reasons that could make him mafia and concluded nothing.

On August 27 2023 05:34 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2023 05:25 Koshi wrote:
Dp/rayn/marv scumteam

##Vote DP

(1) Why you voting DP? Also isn't it a little to early to form a scumteam?


On August 27 2023 06:24 LightningStrike wrote:
(1)Hopefully DP posts more soon given it's early in the morning where he's at.


On August 27 2023 21:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up after having to unexpectedly getting busy after my last post and DP and Vivax had a fight (1)seemed forced? At least I think DP is town from that fight.

Koshi though seemed underwhelming on my reread: He not exactly pushing his own thoughts per say this game compared to normal if he's town he needs to step it up big time. Also Chez not using his own rule right now is pretty suspicious considering he loved talking about in the past how he applies it.


On August 27 2023 21:33 LightningStrike wrote:
(2) Also side note TTT seemed more insightful this time around compared to Part 1 where he was mafia so likely town for the time being.


On August 27 2023 21:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2023 21:35 DarthPunk wrote:
who you want to lynch right now LS?

Chez and Koshi obviously.


On August 28 2023 08:54 LightningStrike wrote:
(3) I am back from having to do house work all day and Koshi looks a bit better but his vote on VE seems off? Idk how to feel about Koshi. VE though not being as abrasive as he was when I was mafia with him in Endure's 1 but he wasn't around as much as that game either if I remember how much activity he had that game but his content not exactly that great either. Chez not doing anything after the Chez rule stuff and ninja voting VE ???? Chez most likely is mafia out of the 2 wagons though if I have to pick out of those 2.
##Vote: Chezinu


On August 28 2023 12:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Got out of my TTRPG session and Chez flipped town :| I will admit I should of figured when there was little to no resistance to his lynch when I did my vote >.< (2) TTT is town like I did say earlier and his fight with DP cements it for me. But I am a bit lost though given the flip.


Not a good look either way. I would vote LS.


##Vote: LightningStrike
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 29 2023 12:11 GMT
#1277
On August 29 2023 18:18 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2023 18:07 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On August 29 2023 15:33 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 29 2023 15:17 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On August 29 2023 14:16 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 29 2023 13:50 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 13:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 29 2023 13:15 iamperfection wrote:
On August 29 2023 12:56 iamperfection wrote:
why didnt you consider a mafia vig. You can confess your sins to me

im going to bed but im not forgetting this DP.


Didn’t remember about mafia vig not a role I have played with a lot, or is that likely in a 10+3 setup

Also

Why would you do that as mafia? lol

Naughty boy. Let's see what the others say


What’s naughty about it?

Anyway we really need to solve things this phase btw.

The Rayn nk is interesting maybe dodging medic


Aware you might take a while to respond to this understandable. So you don't think Rayn's reads were good at all?


His top read was on VE who just flipped town.



I mean yeah but a lot of people read VE as mafia. I wouldn't ignore genuine reads entirely.


I guy you voting with math on LS you don’t think he is mafia?


Oh yeah for the record as soon as math put that vote and logic for the vote I had an instinctive reaction to unvote but I wanted to see if anyone would jump on so I could get a look at voting patterns.


Koshi also voted for him by waiting and that's interesting. Not sure what it means yet. Will have more time to post tomorrow. Do I want to invote and vote math again? Kinda tbh I almost feel two people jumping on ls after me might be suspicious even though I think my logic is solid.

Anyway until the morning. I'm having an instinctive anti marv reaction to him being suspicious of me but I guess I can see how I would look odd.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 29 2023 12:13 GMT
#1278
Oooh another ls vote. Again I think the case is solid just wary after the cheese vote went so smooth.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 29 2023 12:13 GMT
#1279
All those who voted ls with me what's your second biggest scum read?
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 29 2023 12:14 GMT
#1280
A lot of the same people who voted cheese to iirc. At least good to know o have some pull even if it's me being piper perry surrounded by mafia.
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