EPTOn August 29 2023 19:52 iamperfection wrote:
One obviously looks more real how don't you see it.
One obviously looks more real how don't you see it.
Emphasis on “looks” here. Does matter.
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marvellosity
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iamperfection
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On August 29 2023 19:58 iamperfection wrote: Ttt didn't vote marv. Math did that's why it looks more real. Oh so we actually agree. No I’d totally missed that to be frank. I was hung up on the reasons given. | ||
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Koshi
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On August 29 2023 19:52 iamperfection wrote: One obviously looks more real how don't you see it. Because one said he contacted the hosts and will quit playing?? What a question. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On August 29 2023 19:54 marvellosity wrote: Staying on the theme, regarding TTT - seems to form part of a persecution complex this game. Day 1 he complained about he unstoppable wagon/votes on him and he had 1 vote. Then the giving up post. More likely maf or town? Could be maf not liking the relatively constant pressure and giving up to not provide reads after flip. Guess it can also be town feeling unfairly treated. I’m not sure there’s enough either way, so it doesn’t change my read on him. Think I probably need to reread math now as it’s an even weaker give up, but I’ve just not seen him as mafia at all till now You are misreading that post about unstoppable wagon he meant the wagon on chez. I really don’t understand your town read on math at all tbh. | ||
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iamperfection
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On August 29 2023 20:05 Koshi wrote: Because one said he contacted the hosts and will quit playing?? What a question. Marv didn't see that what do you make of that? | ||
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Vivax
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On August 29 2023 20:05 Koshi wrote: Because one said he contacted the hosts and will quit playing?? What a question. Do it or don‘t talk about it would be my advice to them. If there‘s a townie reason for TTTs lack of confidence, I don‘t see it. Mathe tone wise doesn‘t look that bad but it‘s hard to dismiss DP’s night post about him. | ||
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DarthPunk
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I think some key points to consider are: are the four of us and vivax able to trust each other or not . Because at some point this has to happen (validating the dominant voices in the game) and if we can then we have some serious work to do. Personally I think vivax and perfection are pretty town Marv I have reservations about due to lack of scum reads or cases more than anything that he has actually done Koshi has been looking better recently but looked pretty bad previously. I know that at least koshi has been suspicious of me this game. I think this is a problem to solve And then we figure out the math, ttt slot, Jacob, ls shit imo. | ||
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DarthPunk
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I don’t think he was feeling very resilient so this outcome does not surprise me at all. NAI. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On August 29 2023 20:28 iamperfection wrote: Marv didn't see that what do you make of that? He has been a bit sloppy this game tbh. And a little bit lazy too. Reluctant to call him mafia though, because there is also helpfulness the issue is it’s not leading to anything at all. Been bothering me since the night phase. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On August 29 2023 20:36 DarthPunk wrote: He has been a bit sloppy this game tbh. And a little bit lazy too. Reluctant to call him mafia though, because there is also helpfulness the issue is it’s not leading to anything at all. Been bothering me since the night phase. He also has been very good towards me this game, not much suspicion thrown my way. I usually align that with his mafia play but because I also said this last game it may not mean anything anymore | ||
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Vivax
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Koshi. And possibly even DP. One at a time. Before you start getting defensive, DP, know that I just can‘t see you as cleared and TTT folding like that could be more of a red flag for you rather than him. Need a black bean brew now then I‘ll do some filter diving on the three and see if I can clear popular targets I don‘t think are scum. Didn‘t really conclude making my mind up about anything except the angle to tackle. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On August 29 2023 20:40 Vivax wrote: I think LS could be scum too. Koshi. And possibly even DP. One at a time. Before you start getting defensive, DP, know that I just can‘t see you as cleared and TTT folding like that could be more of a red flag for you rather than him. Need a black bean brew now then I‘ll do some filter diving on the three and see if I can clear popular targets I don‘t think are scum. Didn‘t really conclude making my mind up about anything except the angle to tackle. I’m fine with due diligence at this point. A strong town core needs to be formed imo | ||
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DarthPunk
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On August 29 2023 20:40 Vivax wrote: I think LS could be scum too. Koshi. And possibly even DP. One at a time. Before you start getting defensive, DP, know that I just can‘t see you as cleared and TTT folding like that could be more of a red flag for you rather than him. Need a black bean brew now then I‘ll do some filter diving on the three and see if I can clear popular targets I don‘t think are scum. Didn‘t really conclude making my mind up about anything except the angle to tackle. Can you take a look at Marv too please, particularly as you just played scum together. | ||
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Vivax
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(1) : He seems to harbor suspicions for DP but doesn't really spell them out. Initially he even asks Koshi why he's after him. He thought the fight looked forced, decided DP looked townier, but ignored spelling out an opinion on me that would confirm that he felt it was forced. (2) He is one of the few who thinks TTT doesn't look scummy. He townread DP but later stated that TTT looked townier for him after having a back and forth with DP. That reads as if he had an expectation that being in a clinch with DP would be a townie thing to do. (3): He didn't really have a read on VE. But he thought Koshi was obviously mafia and his vote on VE seemed off. But first it seemed off, and afterwards he analyzed the reasons that could make him mafia and concluded nothing. On August 27 2023 05:34 LightningStrike wrote: (1) Why you voting DP? Also isn't it a little to early to form a scumteam? On August 27 2023 06:24 LightningStrike wrote: (1)Hopefully DP posts more soon given it's early in the morning where he's at. On August 27 2023 21:24 LightningStrike wrote: Just woke up after having to unexpectedly getting busy after my last post and DP and Vivax had a fight (1)seemed forced? At least I think DP is town from that fight. Koshi though seemed underwhelming on my reread: He not exactly pushing his own thoughts per say this game compared to normal if he's town he needs to step it up big time. Also Chez not using his own rule right now is pretty suspicious considering he loved talking about in the past how he applies it. On August 27 2023 21:33 LightningStrike wrote: (2) Also side note TTT seemed more insightful this time around compared to Part 1 where he was mafia so likely town for the time being. On August 28 2023 08:54 LightningStrike wrote: (3) I am back from having to do house work all day and Koshi looks a bit better but his vote on VE seems off? Idk how to feel about Koshi. VE though not being as abrasive as he was when I was mafia with him in Endure's 1 but he wasn't around as much as that game either if I remember how much activity he had that game but his content not exactly that great either. Chez not doing anything after the Chez rule stuff and ninja voting VE ???? Chez most likely is mafia out of the 2 wagons though if I have to pick out of those 2. ##Vote: Chezinu On August 28 2023 12:41 LightningStrike wrote: Got out of my TTRPG session and Chez flipped town :| I will admit I should of figured when there was little to no resistance to his lynch when I did my vote >.< (2) TTT is town like I did say earlier and his fight with DP cements it for me. But I am a bit lost though given the flip. Not a good look either way. I would vote LS. ##Vote: LightningStrike | ||
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JacobStrangelove
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On August 29 2023 18:18 DarthPunk wrote: I guy you voting with math on LS you don’t think he is mafia? Oh yeah for the record as soon as math put that vote and logic for the vote I had an instinctive reaction to unvote but I wanted to see if anyone would jump on so I could get a look at voting patterns. Koshi also voted for him by waiting and that's interesting. Not sure what it means yet. Will have more time to post tomorrow. Do I want to invote and vote math again? Kinda tbh I almost feel two people jumping on ls after me might be suspicious even though I think my logic is solid. Anyway until the morning. I'm having an instinctive anti marv reaction to him being suspicious of me but I guess I can see how I would look odd. | ||
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