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On August 27 2023 20:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:I dont gave a hangover, but istilö have some stuff to move since mon-wed i work 18:30-06:30 shifts and i have two dentists during the days so i have no way to move any stuff during those days. This was supposed to be night phase anyways so  I javw bewn reading the thread though, havent felt the nees to post in the middle of arguments. Im gonna sum up my thoughts so far in a bit.
Sweet. No worries, moving is hectic.
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On August 27 2023 20:31 Chezinu wrote:
It seems the faceless townfolks care not what I see. Perhaps my Lord will hear me and give insights to what I saw. To the cathedral!!!
Yeah I saw. you want to chezinu rule mathenalin.
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On August 27 2023 21:02 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 19:56 DarthPunk wrote:
I could lynch DMB at this point also. why?
You aren't doing anything, and I have high expectations of you.
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I feel like you usually care more about this stuff chez...
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On August 27 2023 21:26 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 21:02 DarthPunk wrote:On August 27 2023 21:02 die_meatbaby wrote:On August 27 2023 19:56 DarthPunk wrote:
I could lynch DMB at this point also. why? You aren't doing anything, and I have high expectations of you. Never have high expectation on newbie, someone who was so happy to be finally red and then just making shit and have to play as another role again.
I don't consider you as a newbie anymore, you held your own against good players and made good reads in the obs thread last game.
You can be insightful and analyse whats going on at this stage, so let's have it.
What do you think about the game, anyone suspicious to you, anyone seem townie?
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who you want to lynch right now LS?
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On August 27 2023 21:40 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 21:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 27 2023 21:23 die_meatbaby wrote:On August 27 2023 21:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I didn think Vivax was trolling too much last game, and definitely didnt "just" post nonsensical stuff. he avoided having conversation with his teammates as well. For me it's to early to see him as red Vivax has had a comverdation basically with iamperfection and DP this game. If he is not mafia with these people fie, but how can you use that "not hving conversations with his scum partners" as a basis of a read(?), whe he hasnt basically talked with 10 otherppl? It’s indeed a very strange post. There’s reasons for him to be either alignment, but that isn’t one of them
Isn't she clearly talking about last game?
She is saying,
1.) last game he also avoided speaking with his team mates. in addition to trolling etc.
and
2.) Its too early to see him as red.
So she isn't using it as a basis for a read.
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Anyway I’m out. I’ll be on for 4 hours before deadline hopefully lots of interesting shit happens
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On August 28 2023 07:03 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 06:52 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count
VisceraEyes (4): iamperfection, marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, mathenalin, Koshi
Chezinu (3): JacobStrangelove, mathenalin, mathenalin, Vivax
mathenalin (1): VisceraEyes
DarthPunk (0): Koshi, Vivax
Koshi (0): DarthPunk, Vivax, raynpelikoneet
Iamperfection (0): Vivax
marvellosity (0): JacobStrangelove
Vivax (0): DarthPunk
Not Voting (5): LightningStrike, Chezinu, die_meatbaby,TankTopTiger, DarthPunk
With 4 votes, VisceraEyes is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Monday, Aug 28 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
Show nested quote +Not Voting (5): LightningStrike, Chezinu, die_meatbaby,TankTopTiger, DarthPunk TTT and DP abstaining sticks out. VE wagon should be goated judging by the names of it. I'll stick to the underdog wagon.
We were asleep, I woke up and got to work and I'm catching up now.
My initial thoughts are that I don't want to lynch VE but I got burned so hard from that our last game together that I am probably not going to go ham defending him either.
I would appreciate it if you defend yourself though.
Im going to go read through the thread again properly. I am around to chat about lynches.
I think Chez is a pretty good lynch here actually. Not being able to post a town seal late game removes some of the equity in keeping him around trolling all game.
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Catch up post:
On August 27 2023 22:55 iamperfection wrote:
So my thoughts currently are that DP is likely town. I have less of a town read on Vivax but some of his posts have been so absurd i don't think it can be from a scum so less likely but town.
Rayn has been okish imo and has some similar opinions that i have so i would say green if pressed.
Marv has been somewhat passive so i would have him as dark grey if that makes sense. He has some good comments at points but i would expect that from him from either alignment.
Jacob is grey as well but im leaning more on the green side he seems to have at least intrest in lynching someone at least.
Chez has been useless
Koshi has been useless as well i would be fine with him out.
VE has been extremely useless and i see no posts with intent to try and figure out peoples alignments i think he is likely scum. He has one post where he says chez ill be watching you which comes off as unauthentic to me i would like to lynch him. I would most like to lynch him at the moment.
There are other people in the game too but i don't have opinions yet.
im voting ve
I like this post, particularly the the marv and jacob reads as they align with my own thoughts, as others have mentioned perfection looking good as town this game.
On August 27 2023 23:09 TankTopTiger wrote:
Why VE?
He seems like the kind of player who enjoys playing scum. In Endures I, he blatantly led the mislynch D1 in all caps, reveling all the way. Like I get that he hasn't been active, and has failed to confirm himself town which (for reasons I'm unaware of) is apparently something he does a lot.
But am I wrong to expect him not to cower or coast as red?
I think this is a good point. but I have some issues with TTT this game I think.
Generally I would expect Mafia!TTT to still have good points, to seem coherent and logical and to ask questions that are reasonable and pertinent.
The difference is that as Mafia they fail to lead to anything productive or execute a scumhunting agenda.
In endures 1 and 2 TTT was clearly pushing a scumhunting agenda, and in these past two starts I haven't seen that from him really at all.
I think the attempted trap on Vivax was something I saw him use on marv in Endures 1 so that is a potential town trait.
I also think he would have improved his play from feedback from last game, so yeah, not green on TTT which is not really something I enjoy.
On August 27 2023 23:37 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 21:41 marvellosity wrote:On August 27 2023 21:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up after having to unexpectedly getting busy after my last post and DP and Vivax had a fight seemed forced? At least I think DP is town from that fight. Koshi though seemed underwhelming on my reread: He not exactly pushing his own thoughts per say this game compared to normal if he's town he needs to step it up big time. Also Chez not using his own rule right now is pretty suspicious considering he loved talking about in the past how he applies it. If the fight is forced between DP and Vivax but you’re not scumreading either, what’s the angle? I think this town against town. Still not sure about V, he is acting differently but I think it's because of some privat shit, so no reason for red flag. And Dp seems quit different as well then the last games
DMB why do you mention that it is town vs town but that we are both acting differently from our town games?
it's kind of contradictory.
On August 28 2023 01:04 Vivax wrote:
Happy bday LS!
DP seems on edge at times but I think he has treated me very fairly.
TTT with the best friend in the room on the other hand raised a red flag in a moment where he assumed I was vulnerable to look for allies, and didn‘t do much with it at all.
Chezinu I don‘t know wtf he is about with his crypticness but he can get launched today for all I care.
I think Vivax is looking really town at this point so that is good. I also like using DMB as a barometer for Vivax, cause I feel like she is hyper aware of him and would call him mafia if there was literally any reason to, as both alignments.
On August 28 2023 00:05 marvellosity wrote:
Obvs VE hasn’t done anything, but I’m not gonna vote someone I can typically read pretty okay just because I can’t read them right now
On August 28 2023 00:11 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 00:11 iamperfection wrote:
wouldn't you say koshi and ve are somewhat similar ? I would not
On August 28 2023 00:17 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 00:12 iamperfection wrote:On August 28 2023 00:11 marvellosity wrote:On August 28 2023 00:11 iamperfection wrote:
wouldn't you say koshi and ve are somewhat similar ? I would not care to be specific ? or are you just going to continue to be lazy? Depends, are you going to continue to be annoying? (That’s rhetorical) How to explain… VE can vary anywhere between 0 and 100 as either alignment depending on how he’s feeling or what’s going on irl or whatever factor you like. Koshi… he was quiet last game but his read on you I just agreed with. And he’s not like VE, he’s more consistently the same Koshi regardless.
+ Show Spoiler +On August 28 2023 02:34 LightningStrike wrote:
Ty guys! Also lol Marv I thought the majority of TL Mafia are younger than 29 lol no. TTT and I are 35
Interesting to see how this turns around.
On August 28 2023 03:43 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 03:39 iamperfection wrote:
ve is being very nice and it disturbs me It’s not the niceness that disturbs me. His vote is on someone who is suspicious of the other person he’s suspicious of, based on a rule he’s warning his vote target that people take seriously (although he doesn’t but also does) except no one else is taking it seriously.
Found it. Yeah this does look pretty bad, the question is, can VE do that as town?
On August 28 2023 03:27 mathenalin wrote:
Am i a snowflake if i vote VE or is his vote on me so unbelievably bad that its warranted
This post is sus as fuck.
Why is he checking the temperature of the thread before he votes? Like if you are town you know this motherfucker is wrong about you and trying to kill you. The self awareness of how he is being perceived in the thread strikes me.
On August 28 2023 03:36 mathenalin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 28 2023 03:25 mathenalin wrote:On August 28 2023 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mathenalin, around 10 hours ago you said you were prioritizing getting a read on iamp and Jacob. I see you formed a read on iamp but there is no mention in your filter about Jacob (even after you talked with DP about your reads -- so it doesn't fall under "if anyone has questions for me" anymore i guess).
Did you ever form a read on Jacob? I'd say i don't like him but i cant point to anything as, thats scum behaviour. His point about dp following rules and iamp being "on point" was silly. His vote on marv being anything other than a joke. Then talking about voting chez but immediately calling it a "pressure" vote which instantly makes it lose power.I'd lynch him and not lose sleep but i cant form a slam dunk case. I find it quite weird you treat this as anti-town behavior for some reasons: 1) Every vote particularly during D1 is "pressure", since noone has a good clue who is mafia (especially seems to be true this game since nobody really seems to have a even remotely good case they trust. 2) You said yourself, before voting for Chezinu, at twice, that pressure on Chezinu is good and should be kept up. Why did you say that while simultaneously claiming if you announce pressure it loses power over the target? Well i tried to pretend I had a reason
Hate this, town doesn't do this.
On August 28 2023 03:36 marvellosity wrote:
Very cocky/confident answers if he’s mafia, rayn
He strikes me as confident and cocky in general, I don't think this is a good enough reason to not consider him.
Last game Mathenalin seemed far more agentic and proactive in forming reads, this game it seems like he is coasting and answering prompts. Almost like he is hedging his reads.
On August 28 2023 04:25 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 17:32 DarthPunk wrote:On August 27 2023 16:49 marvellosity wrote:
Well, I actually don’t have much to say. Vivax’s posts felt obtuse and I thought I recognised misdirection there from when we were scum together. But he argued about it so damn much this time which is a different look and more classically ‘vivax’ I am basically sitting in this boat, at the end I thought he seemed to make a lot more sense, but im wondering if he is actually as oblivious as he was making himself out to be. Cause Re-reading that fight we had, it was really, really hard to not understand, and I feel like he would literally 'have' to play the misunderstanding angle to have me let go of it. As soon he gets pressure for his shitfight he drops it. So in his head Vivax was being an idiot to just fuck with him? And that makes Vivax mafia? Don't buy it. He went over the top way too fast.
I dropped it before I got any pressure.
The post you are quoting from marv is AFTER i said he was probably town.
looks like you also don't read properly.
On August 28 2023 04:34 Koshi wrote:
After that DP does nothing.
So really activity is the only reason to not lynch him.
Him fucking up the thread and misreading obvious things would be a good reason to lynch him.
Does nothing.... Dude I was fucking dragging a dead thread along, it was fucking painful as fuck.
On August 28 2023 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 04:47 Koshi wrote:
I don't know if I like TTT full filter though. Feels like he is waiting on something to happen and jump on it. He is making really safe/"smart" posts and I can see a sneaky mafia. Would I ever lynch TTT with that filter? No. Can I say he is not mafia? No. On TTT, i think his questions are smarter this game. Like in his own way it looks to me like he is actually trying to solve something. Before restart in one of my last posts i found this shit i didn't remember who posted it (when VE voted for TTT): Show nested quote +On August 25 2023 18:12 TankTopTiger wrote:
@Math and IAP
In your opinion, who here has the best idea of how you play as town vs. mafia?
@VE can you describe a scenario in which your line of questioning regarding my excitement for this game results in a read one way or another? It's not clicking for me what you were looking to happen here. Like this "looks smart" but actually those are very garbage questions with no intention to solve anything. He couldnt even see how possibly asking DP about TTT meta would result in anything... It's like, about a light year from this game (and games before) to me. He might have learned from mistake, but for now i doubt it at least much enough to not vote him.
He will seem smart as either alignment, its if he does anything with it that matters. In this case, hasn't done anything, so while agree that he seems better this game, I also don't think he has demonstrated he is green at this point
On August 28 2023 05:03 mathenalin wrote:
Probably wont be around at lynch.
I have responsibilities, but , my lynch order
VE
chez
LS
Any other mo fo lurkers
Blegh, like last game he was pushing me, and he struck me as someone that is suspicious of people who take thread control. this game he has been on those three plus Jake, like the least controversial pushes.
As much as looks bad, this guy also looks bad.
On August 28 2023 05:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Read his filter up until when I voted for him and compare that to after I voted for him
I think I see what VE see's so I think I like VE better.
I think Math is wayyyy too 'clean' this game, like he is playing but everything is sterile. add that he is proven to be actively concious of how he is being perceived.
I like a Math lynch and don;t like a VE lynch at this point.
On August 28 2023 05:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Read his filter up until when I voted for him and compare that to after I voted for him
Wrong, that shit is an inoffensive set of reads.
On August 28 2023 06:22 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 06:19 Koshi wrote:On August 28 2023 06:12 Vivax wrote:On August 28 2023 06:11 Koshi wrote:
Due to me not playing and not awarding points that is. Not gonna lie your tone seems off. But I'm kinda unstable rn. Tone as in? I need to be in the thread to do my normal thing. I hate and love it at the same time. I waste so much time but I understand the game better. You lack the 'tingles' It looks more like you're doing chores
I agree with this, feels like he is going through the motions, although IRL could explain things.
On August 28 2023 07:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ya I'm not even going to fight it not with that fucking stack and koshi afk, I might not actually be able to swing this. I'm town, this is a middle but not an unreasonable one. Good luck bois.
Does mafia VE ve up like this? I doubt it.
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Don't want to Lynch VE.
I do want to lynch MATHENALIN.
I could compromise onto Chezinu but I don't have a good grasp on his alignment so it would be tossing a coin and for future thread health.
##Vote: Mathenalin
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I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me.
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On August 28 2023 08:21 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hi. I read the thread while in bed and so I'm caught up.
Vote is currently split between VE and Chez, with VE set to go down.
I don't have anyone else I'd prefer to lynch, but I don't think these are great lynches. Feels LAL. Basically, both players are off, but assuming differences in play is due to alignment shift with no underlying mechanistic explanation is dumb. I've seen VE as scum, and it didn't look like this. I'm actually darker on VE now since I last mentioned him, because I think his responses have been nothing at all, but I still don't feel great about it.
I think Chez is a better lynch. VE is playing rubbish as either alignment, but I see this as NAI. Chez however isn't engaged in his shitposting and that seems like a red flag to me. He's offered zero insight and has been half-hearted in his provocation. He hasn't bargained or given cryptic clues about the game state. He also hasn't adapted to the ban on his seal. I believe last time he started using filters or something? Normally, he is galvanised by a sadistic need to lure people into his cryptic BS. This game, it feels like he's playing solitaire for show and doesn't actually want us to come and play.
What you think of mathenalin?
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On August 28 2023 08:47 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote:
I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me. shut up vote chezinu he fucking ninja voted. shut up vote chezinu
I mean he does that as town too.
if I can't get math lynched I will vote Chez ok?
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On August 28 2023 08:48 iamperfection wrote:
how do you have no reaction to chezinu ninja voting
I didn't look at the votes until you mentioned it.
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Can I interest you all in a mathenalin Lynch.
Read his filters from this game and the first version of it.
Notice how aware he is of his own image, compared to that game and how inoffensive his targets have been this game.
Notice the lack of proactivity in executing a scumhunting agenda.
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On August 28 2023 09:05 TankTopTiger wrote:
Wait really? I thought he said he'd lurked but not played?
He said he has played mafia before.
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On August 28 2023 09:02 TankTopTiger wrote:
@DP
Name one game in the last five years in which I was confirmed town at this point in the game? You're being a bozo.
you seemed town to me the last two games at this point. But not this time.
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On August 28 2023 09:08 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 09:01 iamperfection wrote:On August 28 2023 09:01 Chezinu wrote:
Ah the demons are out I see. your the only demon i see right now Amen Banish the creature. Idk why DP is so un-okay with this option maybe we‘re disposing of one of his horned minions
I literally said I was ok with it, I just think Math is scum.
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Love the old school shenanigans plus tunnel, perfection. *chef's kiss*
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