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TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 12 2023 13:05 GMT
#1301
But you're not chaotic this game you're just parked on a tunnel (as much as Rayn will allow you). The only chaos is the pedantic muddy bs that occurs any time anyone questions you.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:07 GMT
#1302
On June 12 2023 22:02 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 22:00 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:58 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:57 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:50 Vivax wrote:
On June 12 2023 20:03 CopCake wrote:
Tbh now TTT and DP look worse in my eyes (DP get a bit of a pass because of EotD and would be too tinfoil)

Because they relayed on the word of ONE person, and a obvq in which I didnt called rayn mafia that much to make a whoooooooooleeeee strong read on me.

To me it looks like one of them or both took the opportunistic “rayn is a strong player let’s go from there” door and tried to grill me.



I think DP came off as townier after review, but I wasn‘t going to proclaim that during night phase and his behaviour around Hapa flip seemed genuine unless he‘s pulling off HF style scumplay.

I take issue in this post that during D1 I had a similar perspective on TTT and DP having an associative component linking them and you keep perpetuating the same into this day expecting me to be an ally to you for the purposes of not getting lynched.

While I‘m over thinking that the associative behaviour made them mafia, I still think TTT in isolation can be.

To put it in simpler terms: Can you find arguments to scumread them in isolation? Because this looks like you‘re double omgusing without being clear about which one is the dishonest omgus and which one has a point.

At this point I think DP comes off as townier and TTT can be explained by being mafia who‘s hiding by attempting to be his shadow. Would explain the lack of suspicion on his part.


I think I made it clear that DP looks more town for the EoTD actions, like I have him almost locked town. I even changed my tone to him.


You just said I looked worse. Now I’m locked town??


I also said I gave you a pass for EotD, and also said “almost”


so which is it? I looked worse or I’m almost locked town?


When Rayn pointed out the whole eotd I was like “Ok this guy is town (you)” but then when I went to look for games to prove my point that the meta of “cake calls rayn mafia always” is a lie, I started to wonder why? And then I had a small tinfoil that there is a small chance that you could be a mafia with balls of steel, but once again too tinfoil.




CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:08 GMT
#1303
On June 12 2023 21:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 21:52 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:39 TankTopTiger wrote:
Look at filters for D1 between last game and this one:
Endurance Mafia CC reads on D1 (from obs QT):
    *Rayn
    *Koshi
    *DMB
    *Slam
    *Slam
    *Chez
    *Chez
    *DMB
    *Slam
    *DP
    *DMB
    *vivax
    *MZ
    *DP
    *Koshi
    *Slam


Endurance Mafia II CC reads on D1:
    *Slam
    *DP
    *DP
    *Rayn
    *Rayn
    *DP
    *Rayn
    *LS
    *TTT


These are approx. cos I did it fast, but should be fairly reasonable birds eye view of her actions. There's no flipflopping this game, only blind read on Rayn early, singular shallow reads, and tunnels on people who suspect her.


This is a lie, I called LS and Slam town.


That actually makes you look worse in my opinion.


That fact you have only one scum read all game and haven’t actively suspected anyone who hasn’t suspected you make la you look worse to be clear


I called you and TTT mafia 🤷🏽‍♀️


How is this not what I said? You OMGUSed the people who were on you. And you tunneled hard D1. Last game it took you until D3 to even close to tunnel. You then suspended the tunnel D4 and jumped back on D5, so not even a true tunnel until D5!!


Chezinu called me mafia
Slam called me mafia

I didnt went hard on them?
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 12 2023 13:08 GMT
#1304
I think the vote is premature from DP. I don't think it goes through even if we get people on board rn. But I will almost certainly be voting CC if I think there's any chance of it working.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:10 GMT
#1305
Why in the world, mafiacake would fight two big guys?

Someone who has played with me pls answer that and talk about how I tend to play because these two say stuff that are lies or twist my words. Thank you.

I am the new Marv in this game.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:11 GMT
#1306
On June 12 2023 22:05 TankTopTiger wrote:
But you're not chaotic this game you're just parked on a tunnel (as much as Rayn will allow you). The only chaos is the pedantic muddy bs that occurs any time anyone questions you.


I also want to know if I sound pedantic :/ because I dont want to be remembered for that.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 12 2023 13:13 GMT
#1307
On June 12 2023 22:08 TankTopTiger wrote:
I think the vote is premature from DP. I don't think it goes through even if we get people on board rn. But I will almost certainly be voting CC if I think there's any chance of it working.


I can’t just not try to lynch the mafia standing right in front of me though.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:13 GMT
#1308
On June 12 2023 22:03 TankTopTiger wrote:
Wait actually ignore that bit about no tunnel D4. You were suspicious during that time.

BUT ALSO
You regretted calling Rayn red last game and so blind-read him town this game. You also tunneled both me and DP last game (we were your top reads, especially me) and yet you have no concern you might be wrong this game exept when Rayn tells you off.


Neither of you also sit down and try to see if you are wrong, and is more frustrating because I came with facts -____- of other games.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 12 2023 13:15 GMT
#1309
If it's a lie take it up with Rayn. I don't read outside games I've played it's too much work. He said it, it made sense given he's been rolling scum a lot, and it was corroborated by obsQT. That's what the read is based on.

Even if it isn't true, you still just flat-out assumed he was town and that's really bad unless you've established it as your meta and you haven't.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:16 GMT
#1310
On June 12 2023 22:15 TankTopTiger wrote:
If it's a lie take it up with Rayn. I don't read outside games I've played it's too much work. He said it, it made sense given he's been rolling scum a lot, and it was corroborated by obsQT. That's what the read is based on.

Even if it isn't true, you still just flat-out assumed he was town and that's really bad unless you've established it as your meta and you haven't.


I also said mafia rayn would have tried to get me emotional and angry, and he hasnt done it.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 12 2023 13:16 GMT
#1311
Two big guys? The reason is that these are the people who questioned you.

Slam and Chez are trolls who nobody takes seriously (at least at this stage of the game). They didn't come after you at all and stop pretending they did.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 12 2023 13:18 GMT
#1312
On June 12 2023 22:10 CopCake wrote:
Why in the world, mafiacake would fight two big guys?

Someone who has played with me pls answer that and talk about how I tend to play because these two say stuff that are lies or twist my words. Thank you.

I am the new Marv in this game.


I’m not lying or twisting words. if I am town like you think I am that is against my own best interests. Unlike mafia I actually try to understand peoples intentions and alignments.

You have no idea how much of a free pass I have been giving you these past days basically out of respect for Rayne read on you and to give you time and space to do literally anything else this game.

I have asked you time and time again to post about other things make other reads.

You have ignored me.

I legitimately feel that in all of our interactions the person lying and twisting the truth has been you.

And the fact you throw that at your stated almost locked town read as soon as they accuse you basically sells me on it.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:18 GMT
#1313
And rayn has a right to missremember things, you, as “new players with me” is your work to ask OTHER people if that is true.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:19 GMT
#1314
On June 12 2023 22:16 TankTopTiger wrote:
Two big guys? The reason is that these are the people who questioned you.

Slam and Chez are trolls who nobody takes seriously (at least at this stage of the game). They didn't come after you at all and stop pretending they did.


And other people call me town.

Isnt there a chance… idk, you are mistaken? And you should ask them why I am town? Maybe you are tunelled because of an obvs in which is different to play?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:20 GMT
#1315
On June 12 2023 22:18 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 22:10 CopCake wrote:
Why in the world, mafiacake would fight two big guys?

Someone who has played with me pls answer that and talk about how I tend to play because these two say stuff that are lies or twist my words. Thank you.

I am the new Marv in this game.


I’m not lying or twisting words. if I am town like you think I am that is against my own best interests. Unlike mafia I actually try to understand peoples intentions and alignments.

You have no idea how much of a free pass I have been giving you these past days basically out of respect for Rayne read on you and to give you time and space to do literally anything else this game.

I have asked you time and time again to post about other things make other reads.

You have ignored me.


I legitimately feel that in all of our interactions the person lying and twisting the truth has been you.

And the fact you throw that at your stated almost locked town read as soon as they accuse you basically sells me on it.


This is a lie.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 12 2023 13:21 GMT
#1316
I can be the scariest motherfucker you have ever seen in this game and tunnel you until one of us is lynched without a second thought. you don’t know how have restrained I have chosen to be.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 12 2023 13:22 GMT
#1317
Just woke up:
On June 12 2023 15:36 TankTopTiger wrote:
LS can you take me through why you're so firm on DP being town now. I want to hear it from you because you seem super certain.

His EoD behavior as pointed by Rayn actually only can be done by town. The fact that he tried to start on a 3rd wagon even if it meant he get himself lynched is something I can only see town people do.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:23 GMT
#1318
Btw you shouldnt treat me in a “special way” because of rayn.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 12 2023 13:23 GMT
#1319
On June 12 2023 22:20 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 22:18 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 22:10 CopCake wrote:
Why in the world, mafiacake would fight two big guys?

Someone who has played with me pls answer that and talk about how I tend to play because these two say stuff that are lies or twist my words. Thank you.

I am the new Marv in this game.


I’m not lying or twisting words. if I am town like you think I am that is against my own best interests. Unlike mafia I actually try to understand peoples intentions and alignments.

You have no idea how much of a free pass I have been giving you these past days basically out of respect for Rayne read on you and to give you time and space to do literally anything else this game.

I have asked you time and time again to post about other things make other reads.

You have ignored me.


I legitimately feel that in all of our interactions the person lying and twisting the truth has been you.

And the fact you throw that at your stated almost locked town read as soon as they accuse you basically sells me on it.


This is a lie.

When I wake up I will prove, again, that im not lying.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 12 2023 13:24 GMT
#1320
On June 12 2023 22:23 CopCake wrote:
Btw you shouldnt treat me in a “special way” because of rayn.


It’s respect for his town read on you. Nothing more.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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